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=== [[:File:Jozef Stefan.jpg]] ===
Unknown year, unknown author, unknown copyright status. No evidence that the image was originally published anonymously and early enough. [[User:Eleassar|Eleassar]] <sup>[[User talk:Eleassar|(t/p)]]</sup> 16:21, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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* {{comment}}: original photo names the photographer or studio [http://www.sil.si.edu/digitalcollections/hst/scientific-identity/fullsize/SIL14-S006-02a.jpg]. It says "K. Schönbauer sc.". --[[User:Sporti|Sporti]] ([[User talk:Sporti|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
* {{comment}}: from sources I recall that this image is one of very few depicting Stefan, and most probably or very likely is identical with [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jo%C5%BEef_Stefan.jpg this one], uploaded to commons from the dLib. How similarity/identity of two digital (or classical photographic) images can possibly be verified? I think that two images exist: one is true photography (althought not knowing who preserves it today, and date is sure something between 1870 and 1880), and the orther is graphical representation (I guess K. Schoenbauer's engraving) based on this photography. Also - what can be done - scientist's signature might be croped from image Sporti gave for infobox usual usage. --[[User:XJamRastafire|xJaM]] ([[User talk:XJamRastafire|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:01, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for providing this info. I agree - the image listed here is only a reproduction without a sufficient creative contribution to make it a copyrightable work on its own. I'll add this information to it. If the photo was truly made in 1870s to 1880s, it is in the public domain in my opinion (based on my experience, the limit should be set somehow in the period 1890-1895 - 120 years ago). I'm not sure why dLib lists 19? as the date of its creation (as you know, Stefan died in 1893).[http://www.dlib.si/details/URN:NBN:SI:img-KHJCPOM4] Perhaps this refers only to "Copy of the document" (written in the Notes - Opombe). It is also possible that this is a mistake; it would not be the first one (see e.g. [http://www.dlib.si/details/URN:NBN:SI:img-0FA7LTKK this image] from the same collection and made in September 1905, but ascribed to I. Kotar, who per [http://www.boegan.it/fileadmin/user_upload/upload/pdf/ATTI_E_MEMORIE_PDF/VOLUME43/5_Images_Postojna_jama.pdf this article] died in 1903). Or perhaps the image was published only in 19?, in which case it would be a problem, because there is no reliable source stating that it was originally published anonymously and potentially not enough time would have passed for it to be in the public domain. dLib has acquired it from [http://www.nuk.uni-lj.si/portretnazbirka/main.htm here], but now the search there is inaccessible. Otherwise, there's no need to crop the signature for copyright reasons, but if you feel this should be done to increase the usability of the image in Wikipedia, feel free to do so, but upload the image under a different name. I'd wait though so long that this nomination is concluded. --[[User:Eleassar|Eleassar]] <sup>[[User talk:Eleassar|(t/p)]]</sup> 07:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
:::The photo was published after his death in Almanach der Wiener Akademie 1893 [http://www.ijs.si/ijsw/Arhiv%20Novic?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Novice142.pdf]--[[User:Sporti|Sporti]] ([[User talk:Sporti|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
::::{{withdraw}}. This is early enough for the image to be in the public domain both in the source country and the United States. Thanks a lot. I'm not sure who keeps the image: there does not seem to be an entity named ''Austrian Academy of Sciences and Arts'' (though there is the Austrian Academy of Sciences). --[[User:Eleassar|Eleassar]] <sup>[[User talk:Eleassar|(t/p)]]</sup> 08:29, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
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'''Kept:''' withdrawn by nominator [[User:Morning Sunshine|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:Green;font-weight:bold;font-size:11pt">Morning</span>]] <span style="color:Orange;font-size:5.5pt;vertical-align:super">☼</span> [[User talk:Morning Sunshine|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Orange;font-style:italic;font-size:8pt;vertical-align:super">(talk)</span>]] 16:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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