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June 1

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No License --Uwe W. 11:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Closed, does not need to be handled by this page. Please follow the Commons:Deletion guidelines, thanks --pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because it is not deleted yet even though it is listed as BOTH speedy delete and candidate for deletion. I uploaded the images and they lack backed copyrights. Please be so kind as to delete the image asap. Thank you! -- Boereck 15:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Okay, we get the point :/ Deleted pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It is a clone of Image:Cividade de Terroso dentro de uma casa.JPG. My mistake. speedy delete. --PedroPVZ 18:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, please follow the Commons:Deletion guidelines and do not list speedy candidates here. This is just for files that need discussion. Thanks --pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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license unclear --Uwe W. 11:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 11:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Released only for "noncommersial, educational purposes". --Cnyborg 10:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


tagged with {{Noncommercial}} --ALE! 13:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Superseded by SVG Image:Wappen Moers.svg. --Raymond de 13:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

delete, never needed --Stefan-Xp 13:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
deleted--Shizhao 13:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Thumbnaill of Image:Wappen-Moers-3.png and superseded by SVG Image:Wappen Moers.svg. --Raymond de 13:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

keep, because it is the original File with the permission... we should keep it. On the other Hand it is used as before-after comparison @ w:de:WP:BWS. --Stefan-Xp 13:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
deleted--Shizhao 13:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Better and larger version is now available: Image:Wappen Reute Breisgau.png --Rosenzweig 17:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Outdated copy of Image:Flag of Congo Kinshasa 1997.svg, which changed to the current flag Image:Flag of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.svg in the 2006 constitution --moyogo 10:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. I made the description clearer so that no one can mistake it for the current flag. pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the former flag, a copy of Image:Flag of Congo Kinshasa 1960.svg--moyogo 10:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kept, made it clear that this is not the current flag. pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Superseded by SVG Image:Wappen Moers.svg. --Raymond de 13:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kept, images are significantly different. pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Created for a WikiProject that has since merged with another and expanded beyond original aims, rendering this image superfluous. A replacement image has been made available on the English-language Wikipedia. Redvers 19:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, uploader request, pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not Vern Clark, it is Michael Mullen. See Image:VernClark.jpg and Image:Admiral Michael Mullen, official Navy photograph.jpg and his official biography from the DOD. This image is also unused. --tomf688 (talk - email) 03:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted, not used anyway --ALE! 13:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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copyvio. not cc-by-sa. see [1]: "Copyrights © 2004 - TravelKosova.com. All rights reserved. Copying materials without permission is prohibited."--Shizhao 18:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted as copyvio. Can be reuploaded if ever properly licensed. — Erin (talk) 08:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Kept -- I want to state that I don't object to the Mozilla logo, but it must be evident that the big Wikimedia logo limits the use of this image outside of Wikipedia. / Fred Chess 21:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:UbuntuLogo.svg Image:Ubuntu.png Image:Vista-go.png

see [2],"Ubuntu and Canonical are registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd.". not Free --Shizhao 03:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

and see Trademark Policy--Shizhao 03:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deleted, if you spot logos please delete them ASAP before they spread --pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As a part of this request, could someone go through Category:Icons themes and figure out which icons are copyrights and which aren't? Twice now I've picked out a cute little image to represent something and had it end up being a copyvio because it's a software symbol used as part of an icon set. Essjay (TalkConnect) 05:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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copyvio --Sonaz 17:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copyvio --Sonaz 17:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copyvio --Sonaz 17:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copyvio --Sonaz 17:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


nsd for 10 days - Deleted! Kjetil_r 19:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conophytum friedrichae
Image:Conophytum friedrichae (flower) - Botanical Garden Cologne 1.jpg
Image:Conophytum friedrichae (flower) - Botanical Garden Cologne 2.jpg

Plants on the photos are not a Conophytums.

Correct species name is Conophytum friedrichiae. But renaming empty page is pointless. Lispnik 09:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ACK and deleted. --Raymond de 05:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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same Image:Threegorges.png--Shizhao 17:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kept --ALE! 12:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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the license does not permit commercial use --Uwe W. 18:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Angr --ALE! 11:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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A seal without copyright information except the GFDL tag. Would they GFDL their seal? --Hautala 10:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seal seems old enough to be PD. Claiming Copyright is not having Copyright. --Historiograf 17:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but please put the information on the page. It still claims to be GFDL. --Hautala 14:33, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It should be mentioned that the seal is protected under the trademark law. / Fred Chess 21:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In which year was it made? --Hautala 11:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Essjay --ALE! 21:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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copyvio --Sonaz 16:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Essjay --ALE! 21:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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strange license at the picture page--Uwe W. 18:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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strange license at the picture page--Uwe W. 18:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 14:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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bad map--Uwe W. 18:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are not from the Czech Republic. The Bohemian boundaries are very badly displayed on this map --Kirk 18:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bohemian borders on this map (made by me) are precise: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:CZ-cleneni-Cechy-wl.png --Kirk 19:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 11:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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New version Image:Wappen at eferding.png availaible. --Dralon 19:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 11:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Picture size too big, will be of no use anymore, uploaded by myself Song for sunshine 21:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 11:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Copyrigted object on the photography?--Uwe W. 18:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

w:de:Panoramafreiheit? --Stefan-Xp 19:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The picture is produced in Japan. So wie must use Japan Law.--Uwe W. 08:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep, the store's logo is not the main subject of the image. If someone was to crop this image so it only showed the store front, that would not be OK. But this one is OK (in my understanding). pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  KeepSame opinion as pfctdayelise --ALE! 12:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 11:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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No Free License--84.60.111.214 21:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. No appropriate license. -Samulili 06:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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That file is NOT the coat of arms of Paltamo, it is here: Image:Paltamo.vaakuna.svg. 'Pertsa 15:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  CommentThe red cross definitfly not. But the previous image seems to be quite similar to the COA of Paltamo. --ALE! 13:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep - The png version is almost the same, but the colors are brighter. They are not exactly the same, so no redundant. Please keep both, and make a link between them, so people on the wikipediae can choose for themselves. Effeietsanders 09:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

old version restored and kept --ALE! 13:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Camera Operator was a RETIRED employee of the U.S. Navy, hence NOT in the public domain. Hashekemist 16:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Camera Operator was a RETIRED employee of the U.S. Navy, hence NOT in the public domain. Hashekemist 16:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Keep Either he wasn't retired when the photo was taken or he was working as a civilian photographer. I don't think a retired Navy guy went boating off the coast of Israel it take this photo and then send it to the DoD. --Pmsyyz 02:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Camera Operator was a RETIRED employee of the U.S. Navy, hence NOT in the public domain. Hashekemist 17:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Keep, this is a photo released by the DoD. You can be retired from active duty and go to work as a civilian, which I'm sure is the case here. This photo's entry at http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/ does not list any extra copyright info. --Pmsyyz 03:00, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • How can you be sure in this case? if there is no extra copyright info in a DoD web site is it safe to belive that it's in the Public Domain? what about photos that are clearly not a work of a DoD employee like the last entry returnd when searching for "FROG-7" in http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/? Hashekemist 18:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Looks like the DoD is treating that last Soviet photo as public domain, though it may not be, but yes, if there is no extra copyright info or other reason to believe that is not public domain then it should be considered public domain. --Pmsyyz 02:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 15:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work -- EugeneZelenko 14:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --EugeneZelenko 14:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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en:Image:Dali_women_skull.jpg lists this as fair use, so why would this be GNU FDL? --Melanom 18:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Arnomane --ALE! 09:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Based on DVD cover: http://alumni.imsa.edu/~sverma/Movies/MyLeftFoot.html --Tomia 21:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --EugeneZelenko 13:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Duplicate image from Image:Aer.arann.atr72.ei-red.arp.jpg--Uwe W. 09:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --EugeneZelenko 14:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Makes no sense for saving as a picture --iGEL (talk) 01:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 19:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Size is wrong, not particularly needed, possible incorrect license. --Bdude 07:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Arnomane --ALE! 18:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Vector grafik is now in use. Image:Toilet_women.svg --lateiner 17:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 11:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It is redundant and no longer used by any project. --Ultratomio 16:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:12, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Seems like mischievous self-promotion at the minimum and potentially the basis for vandalism. Do we really need this? Laurens 06:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sigh. Another day, another penis. This one is better than most, actually: useful descriptive info like subject's age, measurements. (I'm not sure that encouraging the male obsession with size is such a great idea though.) I can't believe it, but   Keep for this one. pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep - There are billions out there - and each one is different. As we have uncountable numbers of photos of totally useless things we can have a gallery of the most important parts of the human body too. A pity, that we don't have more female counterparts. -- AM 18:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
kept--Shizhao 14:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason for deletion request: This image is a fantart, the character Jiraya from the Naruto manga have copyrighs of Masashi Kishimoto --Kerosene 03:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Reason for deletion request: This image is a fantart, the character Orochimaru from the Naruto manga have copyrighs of Masashi Kishimoto. --Kerosene 03:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. howcheng {chat} 18:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Also related file Shinto monks. The person in image is no shinto monk, but apparently Buddhist monk. Since Shinto has no monk (there are only laity and priests), and this file contains only one image on the above, I think it better to delete them rather than move the latter file. --Aphaia 05:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image could be uploaded again under a proper name. --Aphaia 05:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Kept and tagged with {{Rename image}} instead. howcheng {chat} 21:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The uploader requested a speedy deletion because he afterwards thought that it might be a copyvio. I am however unsure (it is a photo outside on a public place with borders visible) and turned this into a normal deletion. What dou you think? Arnomane 20:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete The bottom left corner suggests that the diagram is not displayed in a public place: talking about joining the Warrior Association for free visitation rights and to visit the information desk and gift shop. The bottom right says "Designed & Printed by seaviewprint \n Ryde, Isle of Wight, © [I think] 1983 811148", so I think it is copyrighted. Kotepho 21:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete Unless it is shown that the creater of the diagram shown has released this under GFDL & CC-BY-SA-2.5,2.0,1.0, this photo clearly strictly derivitive of the diagram is mistagged and a copyright problem. -- Infrogmation 15:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted. howcheng {chat} 18:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Flags to be deleted after being renamed to the correct name

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More to come. —Nightstallion (?) 21:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for forgetting about this, has been done now. —Nightstallion (?) 15:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as duplicates — Erin (talk) 08:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploaded by accident by the author (myself); image:Scheveningen2005.jpg is the same --AngMoKio 07:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --EugeneZelenko 13:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Found out that this image is of a different kind of bettle, not a ladybug. Reuploaded under correct name --Romarin 13:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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What is this? can it realy be a bookcover and if so is it under free license --Grön 15:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC) Yes, it is an bookcover and all licenses are at WiKu's edition. There is no problem with the license. But please delete - in the moment it was an error. Greeting --St.Gera 16:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Fb78 --ALE! 17:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a frame, so it's a 3D picture, and www.wga.hu specify The Web Gallery of Art is copyrighted as a database. Images and documents downloaded from this database can only be used for educational and personal purposes. Distribution of the images in any form is prohibited without the authorization of their legal owner. Calame 15:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 11:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Es liegt keine Genehmigung der DB AG vor Marcela 20:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a public building (open to the general public), no permission is needed from Deutsche Bahn. Keep. Angr 22:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Und? Keep 217.227.175.60 06:07, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's an interior of a private building, not a public space (Öffentlicher Raum) as understood by German law. So it isn't a subject of Panoramafreiheit. It's only proper when you stand on public ground. Deutsche Bahn is a company (though still owned by the state). Shaqspeare 10:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Still, we can ask for permission. Shaqspeare 11:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This request is close to frivolous. Kph 09:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
kept--Shizhao 13:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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exchanged with "Hazard_E.svg".

Now, no use in any Wiki. Please delete ! Augiasstallputzer 10:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 14:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The uploader mentioned himself here that he only scanned this picture, which is in its private collection. It is unsure, if he is the photograph or if the picture itself is in the Public Domain. --Huebi 05:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huebi, what' s all this mess? The image is Public Domain, because following Italian law (just read the template for italian pictures) all pictures except artistic photographs are PD after 20 years. It was made by an airman of Regia Aeronautica then later published and even used for propaganda purposes. You have not understood copyright policy! Your deletion request is absurd. As scan it is a reproduction and therefore not even covered by copyright law. Almost every older picture here in Wikipedia is a scan or an other kind of mechanical and/or electronic reproduction - what are you thinking? But anyway, it is a picture made under Italian rule in 1941, it is obviously an Italian airplane (marking of Regia Aeronautica, the airforce of fascist Italy, is clearly visible under the wing as well as squadron number on the fuselage) and every copyright is expired according to Italian law. So please be so kind and withdraw your completely unnecessary and unjustified deletion request.   Keep
Reptil (♣) 4 June 2006, 13:10 (UTC)

what is nonartistic photo according to italian law? If this picture is indeed nonartistic to italian law, then this seems perfectly fine to me. -- Gorgo 16:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

delete This is nonsense. The EU guideline, which will sooner or later be turned into law in Italy as well, says 70 years p.m.a. Furthermore, you can be sued in any other country for copyright violation. --Fb78 19:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please read this:
Fb78 you are completely wrong! What I wrote before is NOT nonsense! You are telling nuts and nothing else! This picture applies to actual Italian copyright law. Please read that copyright tag of the picture again and cartefully, maybe you did not fully understand it. Forget that damn stupid EU guideline which says 70 years p.m.a. because Italy has not accepted it and surely will not for the next years as there is no evidence yet. At least in Italy they have understood that a non-artistic photograph does not justify such a long copyright. I am sure you are not aware of the fact that this guideline has its origins in the spanish copyright law, maybe EU took this over for being lazy or whatsoever. You CANNOT assume that Italy will turn this into law sooner or later - this has no relevance at all and we must stick to the facts - and FACT is that this picture complies with Italian law and is therefore in the public domain. Please remember, a EU guideline is NOT a binding law. We do not have EU as a super-state over all member countries and a guideline can only turn into law if a member state approves it - not any other way. If your infamous argumentation would be followed, you would have to delete a gigantic bunch of pictures from the commons. You will not find any historic pictures like these uploaded by the original photographer, so fairly all are mechanical and/or electronic reproductions and finally nearly all scans. By the way, how could you get a picture other way than by scanning it into the PC? Again, then we would have to delete nearly all pictures here!!! Or do you want to start diputing all other pictures of similar background? If you do not like war pictures it is your own personal thing, but we should stick to the facts and not to people who just wanna delete without knowledge of the facts and competence. And, it is complete nonsense that you can be sued in any other country for copyright violation with this picture! Who the heck told you this? And who should? The manufacturer CRDA is long gone, the Regia Aeronautica as well and the original photographer is unknown. Or do you think he or his nephews will emerge these days or in future and claim his copyrights? Come on, this is ridiculous! Nobody will start legal action for this picture in other countries because original copyright holder has long gone and todays following air force organization Aeronautica Militare Italiana never claimed copyright after 1946 and if they had, it would have been expired in 1961 from the legal point of view. This discussion is superfluous and unnecessary, please let us do justice and stop this havoc caused by an incompetent user, it would be a crime to delete this picture of clear history and descent (marking of Regia Aeronautica, the airforce of fascist Italy, is clearly visible under the wing as well as squadron number on the fuselage). The picture does obviously comply with Italian copyright law of copyright expirement after 20 years for a non artistic photograph or film screenshot made in Italy and therefore it is obviously in the Public Domain. The only right thing to do is to leave with all the others within the commons.
Reptil (♣) 8 June 2006, 4:45 (UTC)

According to Commons:Licensing, the picture must be PD in the country of origin as well as in the US. It's certainly not PD in the US. Also, w:Forum shopping allows anyone to pick a place from where to sue the uploader, pick the US or Germany, if you will. We cannot allow exceptions from general Commons rules, just because you believe it won't happen. --Fb78 16:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fb78, please stop searching excuses in order to delete this picture by all means. And please get a hold on you and stop telling nuts! Who said to you that this picture is not Public Domain in the USA? Can you give a valid reason why it should not be? It is in full appliance as worldwide Public Domain as its copyright has expired under Italian law still in charge since 1961, so there is NO point at which you could start a lawsuit for copyright violation even in USA or Germany.

In American books and literature you will find loads of similar pictures of Regia Aeronautica of this or similar kind, as they are regarded as historical documents, there has been never a lawsuit against a book author for violating copyright. If I want to publish a book in the USA, what may well may happen in next future, you need only to have the consent of the current owner of copyright in the country of origin, if it is known, that applies worldwide for the markets this book is made for or at least for USA, if you want to sell it there.

You are completely wrong about w:Forum shopping, it is absurd to pursue copyright violation where there isn' t any. In theory you could start a lawsuit for nearly every picture, but nobody is so damn stupid to start a lawsuit against an expired national copyright or one which cannot be retrieved anymore. In pictures from other countries declared as expired copyright by country of origin US law assumes Public Domain in any case or at least assumes this by anolgy! Same thing does for example Poland for older Polish photographs without clear copyright, and USA accepts this as given fact without dispute. Or did you ever hear the contrary? No Polish picture of that kind has been deleted here in the Commons yet! If you want to start a lawsuit for copyright violation you must have at least a credible reference or proof for what you are claiming for. Otherwise courts will decline jurisdiction competence. Try this yourself and you will understand what I mean. You will certainly lose your lawsuit in a bloody way or the court will decline jurisdiction competence from the start off as in this case there is a clear Public Domain status accepted worldwide. Italian pictures with Italian expired copyright are NOT diputed in the US as Public Domain!

What you say about legal situation is also wrong from another point of view. In theory you could be sued not also for pictures on the commons, but also for those for example on German Wikipedia, because it is accessible and usable in the USA too, no matter where the servers are located. But this is theory - did you ever hear of a lawsuit? Definitely NO! Again, this is absurd and would be stupid!

One reason why legal action in such cases is very unlikely is also that the costs for legal action are in the most cases definitely in no relation to the outcome. And even more when a picture can be stated as expired national copyright accepted also in the USA, especially when a picture is regarded as historical document.

To remain with Italian photographs, older or actual ones still under copyright made and/or published by the Italian army, navy or airforce, all three military branches that obviously depend from the Italian defense ministry, can be used in Wikipedia and commons without any problems. After all, the defense ministry is the appropriate entity for picture questions and requests they hold or claim copyright – see {{ItalyDefense}}. Every picture can be used in Wikipedia and commons without any problems as said in the template:

Tutte le informazioni fornite su questo WEB sono considerate informazioni per il pubblico e possono essere distribuite o copiate.

As I can speak Italian I will translate:

Every information supplied on this WEB page are considered for the public and can be distribute or copied

You understand that in English?

And why should these pictures not be accepted as Public Domain in the USA? Please do not try to tell me they are not accepted as PD there too - this this would be false and absurd! You will fail to prove that Italian copyright does not apply worldwide.


Let me cite now from here Commons:Licensing:


Laws about copyright differ from country to country. Generally, the commons try to apply a policy that only allows images that can be used on all (or at least most) countries. The laws of individual countries differ especially in the following points:

  • The time for which a copyright applies. In most countries, copyright expires no later than 70 years after the death of the author.
  • Status of works of the government. In many (but not all) countries, documents published by the government for official use are in the public domain.
  • Material applicable for copyright. In some jurisdictions, pictures of artistic work like architecture, sculpures, clothing etc. can not be used freely without the consent of the creator of the original artwork.

So in order to find a resonable way within the complicated international aspects of national copyright law terms there is a golden rule:

  • The copyright of the nation where the image was first published gets applied to that image (and this country-specific law decides if we consider the image as public domain in general or not).
  • So e.g. in case of a painting that was published in France please do not apply e.g. US-American copyright laws but French copyright laws to determine if this image can be considered public domain.

Relevant country-specific differences in the duration of copyright (from 70 years pma) and exceptions of the application of copyright are discussed below (countries are listed in alphabetical order):

XXXXX

= = = Italy = = =
In compliance to Italian copyright law term of copyright expires according to law of 22 April 1941 n. 633, revised by the law of 22 May 2004, n. 128 article 87 and article 92, all non artistic photographs enter the public domain after 20 years counted from the beginning of the following calendar year (ie. as of 2006, prior to the 1st of January, 1986) after they were first published, this rule is valid also for italian film's screenshot. Artistic photographs enter in the public domain after 70 years.

XXXXX


Understood everything? See also: {{PD-Italy}}

The Picture I uploaded is NO derivative work, artistic photograph or whatsoever so it can be reproduced and used freely as its copyright is expired in Italy and therefore worldwide. No person or entity can claim copyrights that expired after Italian law. And who should? The manufacturer CRDA is long gone, the Regia Aeronautica as well and the original photographer is unknown. Nor he or his descendents that very unlikely will emerge these days or in future can claim copyrights. Nobody will start legal action for this picture in other countries because original copyright holder has long gone and todays following air force organization Aeronautica Militare Italiana never claimed copyright after 1946 and if they had, it would have been expired in 1961 from the legal point of view.

I noticed that I made a mistake writing created, uploaded and nominated by Reptil in the Template:Featured pictures candidates/Image:CRDA Cant Z.1007bis Alcione bombing (1941).jpg as I proposed it for candidate as picture of the day. Of course, as said, I did not take the picture in 1941, as surely not one of these or similar pictures have been uploaded here by the original photographers as many are dead and gone today. It was the first time I proposed a candidate for picture of the day and mistook the word "created" for having created this proposal for picture of the day and not the photo itself. In fact in the licensing for the picture itself I did NOT mention myself as author, but unnown, as is for this picture made by an unnown airman of Regia Aeronautica. I have to apologise for this mistake. The deletion request of user Huebi is unjustified in any way. First of all because in the picture license I never claimed to be the author of the photo and second because the picture is clearly PD after expiration of Italian copyright after 20 years. This is accepted worldwide.

Fb 78, if you do not like this picture of an old bomber unloading bombs it is your personal affair, but please stop trying to "sell white for black" with completely false or even void arguments. You are not competent in airplanes and history and even law, so please keep away from enforcing unjustified deletion requests telling lies and deceiving all the other users!
Reptil (♣) 10 June 2006, 6:05 (UTC)

Being competent in airplanes or history is not necessary to disucuss about copyright violence. And stop offending other people using words like "nuts" and others. I didnt mentioned that you claimed to be author, the deltion request is not unjustified cause i think the license does not comply with commons. If ypu believe this is not true show facts, not insults. --Huebi 19:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huebi, please do not make me and all the other fellow users here laugh! Still not had enough? Not read my last statement above? How deplorable! What you say is completely wrong, to use more diplomatic words. The picture complies with Commons rules! As being outraged about your unneccessary deletion request that cannot be justified neither by you, nor by any other else, if I would not be a very correct person as I am, I would have had an obvious reason to call many other things as well. Maybe you do not properly understand what "nuts" means? No trouble at all, as I saw in your user page, you are of German language and so I will translate that word for you in German, it means "Unsinn", and nothing else. This is NOT a personal offense! I did not offend other people, this is not my style, but beware of offending me, that is all I say! And I did not insult anyone with bad language or whatsoever! The very insult in itself is your ridiculously superflous and unneccessary deletion request! It is an insult against the whole community of people who put a lot of hard work in here and against a legally very clear matter of facts! But unfortunately you seem not willing to try to understand anything in this case I guess. You want that picture deleted by all means because you do not like it, right? Too bad! Your claim I would have violated copyright is simply false! Anyway I have the right to defend my interests against unjustified matters against me. Yes it is neccessary to be competent in airplanes and history because this allows to be able to determine and categorize pictures in historical context as well as all the following stuff like copyrights. This picture has been made by an airman of Regia Aeronautica, or do you think it has been made from for instance from inside a formation of German Dornier Do 217, British Avro Lancasters or American Boeing B-17 to have another copyright status? This is more then obvious that it is a picture taken by an Italian and you cannot prove the contrary! So it is a picture taken under Italian rule and was also published in Italy for the first time. Therefore Italian copyright applies and in accordance to this law its copyright is long expired, a fact that is also accepted without dispute even in the USA. So as copyright has eypired, it is allowed to be distributed, copied, reproduced mechanically (printed) or electronically (scanned) without any doubt!

In your last message above this one you wrote the following: the deltion request is not unjustified cause i think the license does not comply with commons. WHAT? May I correct you, you did NOT say that in your deletion request! Let me cite you from the top in this discussion: It is unsure, if he is the photograph or if the picture itself is in the Public Domain. So please make sure what the heck you want at all before requesting something here!

After all it is you claiming I violated copyright without not a single proof. Would you then please explain how I violated copyright? It is NOT unsure if I was the original photographer, as I wrote Unknown as author in the original tag of the picture. You should just have had a look before! For the reason why the picture is Public Domain please read my last statements, there I have already showed all the facts and legal context. Please read also Commons:Licensing and PD-Italy again and again until you understand it at last! Damn after all it is in English!

And finally, you seem to have a very strange understanding of law matters. It is not enough to say I violated copyright and the picture has to be deleted. You cannot say one is a murderer and then he or she is subsequently jailed without proof of guiltiness. First it is you who has to proof I violated copyright, not me that I have not. But I have anyway already showed the facts and the legal situation in my statements before, you need onty to read them!

So please get a hold on you and put your cards on the table (if you have any) to proof I violated copyright, if you can at all (most unkllikely!), or stop grumbling and deceiving all the other fellow users with your deletion request that cannot be justified in any way. Sorry for you, Huebi, or whatever your nickname here is, but your completely void argumentation is not suitable at all to force deletion of this picture. If you like it or not!
Reptil (♣) 11 June 2006, 5:00 (UTC)

The only Person grumbling here is you. We will see how you will react if the picture is deleted. Stop insulting, and i will read your thread. But not this way. --Huebi 13:05, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I really did not want to insult or offend anyone here. I have also admitted to have made a mistake when proposing it for picture of the day as stated in a thread before. This may have caused some confusion indeed. Let me now cite myself:

I noticed that I made a mistake writing created, uploaded and nominated by Reptil in the Template:Featured pictures candidates/Image:CRDA Cant Z.1007bis Alcione bombing (1941).jpg as I proposed it for candidate as picture of the day. Of course, as said, I did not take the picture in 1941, as surely not one of these or similar pictures have been uploaded here by the original photographers as many are dead and gone today. It was the first time I proposed a candidate for picture of the day and mistook the word "created" for having created this proposal for picture of the day and not the photo itself. In fact in the licensing for the picture itself I did NOT mention myself as author, but unnown, as is for this picture made by an unnown airman of Regia Aeronautica. I have to apologise for this mistake.

Yes, I may have been furious. This was mostly because of many erroneous deletions of older pictures under Soviet PD what really outraged me. All I want is justice, nothing else. I have put down my arguments in my thread. It would be nice if you and the other users would read them. If there is still anything unclear, feel free to write again.
Reptil (♣) 11 June 2006, 14:10 (UTC)

PD in Italy and no potential copyrightholder in sight, so it seems OK to keep the image. --::Slomox:: >< 14:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ack, seems so. Keep. Darkone 16:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the same reasons. --Delirium 10:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep As long as we have PD-Italy, we should keep it. In my mind, same applies for russian PD. Why anticipate copyright laws that could become EU-laws sometime in the future? -- AM 12:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
kept--Shizhao 14:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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No licence images

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Copyright vio.--Morio 00:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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  1. Quelle: www.der-obel.de / Andreas Obering
  2. Freigabe: Für Wikipedia etc. freigegeben.

Lizensierung nicht ausreichend Marcela 19:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

bitte bei einem delete-request auch die entsprechenden templates setzen siehe oben hier auf der Seite (auch auf deutsch Commons:Löschanträge) -- Gorgo 00:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Vector graphic is now in use. lateiner 10:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not really the same image. The flasks are different, the place where the drop hits the hand is different. It looks nice, the svg, but it is not exactly the same, so please keep the png. Effeietsanders 17:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They are different, yes, but why? I guess there is only one official form, so which is the more appropiate? --::Slomox:: >< 12:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If both are been used on the world, both should be kept. Commons is not only for official pictures of course. Effeietsanders 11:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will take a loke to some Cemicals and there symbole on it. But I thinke it is diverent in some States. The png image is form Germany and the other one I dont know. --lateiner 17:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced the SVG-image (Image:Hazard_C.svg) with a version with filled hand, because this seemes to be more common in the internet (Google-result). Now, the images are nearer together. May be, deleting Image:Gefahrensymbol C.png is Ok now. Augiasstallputzer 10:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, the images are not the same at all for now. Now the gaps between the fingers are filled, it looks totally different... Some people will like the svg, some will like the png. Commons is not there to decide what is correct, Commons is there to store the images, and to store them in such a way that the projects can use them optimally. Effeietsanders 11:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, the images are different (the SVG has a border too), not necessary to delete. pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright not yet expired. 50 years rule not applicable. --ALE! 14:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 13:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Es liegt keine Genehmigung der DB AG vor Marcela 20:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Translation: No permission was given by the German Railway. Shaqspeare 10:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update: I now do have permission (in fact a release for the image) from Deutsche Bahn AG. Ideally Deletion Request should be terminated, but I guess people are coming up with new reasons every day. I requested a release from the architects. Let's see if they can be bothered to answer, with all the media attention they got. --Dschwen 16:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a public building (open to the general public), no permission is needed from Deutsche Bahn. Keep. Angr 22:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Warum sollte man dafür eine brauchen? Keep 217.227.175.60 06:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's an interior of a private building, not a public space (Öffentlicher Raum) as understood by German law. So it isn't a subject of Panoramafreiheit. It's only proper when you stand on public ground. Deutsche Bahn is a company (though still owned by the state). Shaqspeare 10:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fotos von Bahnhöfen (innen) unterliegen nicht der Panoramafreiheit 217.88.148.56 13:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Genau, Bahnhofsbilder dürfen nur nach schriftlicher Genehmigung der Deutschen Bahn veröffentlicht werden. Die Meinung, das ein Bahnhof ein "Öffentlicher Platz" ist, ist falsch. Bahnhöfe sind nicht öffentlich, sondern gehören der DB, somit darf (wie in einem privaten Garten) nur nach Genehmigung des Besitzers fotografiert werden. Delete --RvM 06:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this and the above case really are a violation of Deutsche Bahn's copyright, then we need a general policy at Commons, not just a vote on these two images. There must be hundreds of photographs of the insides of buildings that will have to be deleted if these count as copyvios. Just to take some examples from the gallery of the nominator, User:Marcela: if these pictures of Berlin Hauptbahnhof are copyvios, then so are the following pictures of his:
  1. Image:Sekt-im-supermarkt.jpg
  2. Image:Obst-supermarkt.jpg
  3. Image:Kaese-supermarkt.jpg
  4. Image:Fleischtheke-supermarkt.jpg
  5. Image:Fett-supermarkt.jpg
  6. Image:Bier-im-supermarkt.jpg
  7. Image:Spirituosen-im-supermarkt.jpg
  8. Image:Obst-im-supermarkt.jpg
And indeed virtually every picture taken indoors. Angr 20:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes but the supermarket interior is a kind of "trivial work". The station isn't. Shaqspeare 21:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see that the supermarket interior is any more trivial than the train station. Angr 22:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is. The way of displaying cheese in the supermarket isn't a subject of copyright in most cases. A photo of it is not recogniseble for both the author and location of what it is depicting - that's why its subject should be classified as trivial. Anybody in any place can put some cheese together in a cupboard. A photo of whole supermarket interior would be of course just the same as the photo of the station. The foto of some cheese is just like a photo of some part of the regular track. Shaqspeare 23:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What about the REWE logos and the merchandise lables? They sure are not free and there certainly is no "Panoramafreiheit" in a supermarket. --Dschwen 07:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The REWE logos etc. are a matter of trade marks (Markenzeichen), not copyright. That's an entirely different thing. We're talking about copyright here. And you're right, there is no Panoramafreiheit inside buildings. All German speakers, please read de:Panoramafreiheit and de:Wikipedia:Bilder von fremdem Eigentum before closing the discussion. --Fb78 12:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Trademarks (Markenzeichen) are copyrighted, so they are relevant to this discussion. Photographs of the REWE trademarks and other trademarks are copyvios, regardless of whether they are photographed indoors or outdoors. Angr 22:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Trademarks != Copyright, Angr. Please read some basic information about the topic. --Fb78 10:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Für die Bilder im Supermarkt liegt eine Genehmigung der Geschäftsleitung vor. Yo tengo permiso por los fotos dentro del supermercado REWE Marcela 14:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This request is close to frivolous. Kph 09:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep---Nina- 10:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I formally requested permission now. Would have been nice to be notified of this deletion-request in advance anyway... --Dschwen 16:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do also consider the architect's copyright in this case. This should be our biggest concern. --Fb78 19:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, await the reply to Dschwen's permission request. (I assume it will be granted) In my opinion there is no further need for discussion as we will doubtlessly have to accept the decision of the DB. ASM 09:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The architect's copyright are the drawings of the building. Buildings are free to photo and this are a pubilc building too. ---Nina- 10:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about. Buildings are not "free to photo". A building is treated equal to a sculpture or any other work of art: You always need the creator's permission to distribute photos of it. Any architect does hold the copyright to the building created from the plans. See the Louvre Pyramid discussion, see the Atomium discussion. Do you get that?
Now there's one exception to the rule, called de:Panoramafreiheit in German. This exception allows you to publish photos of permanently installed works that are taken from public grounds.
In this case, the picture was not taken from public grounds, but from inside the building, which is private property of the Deutsche Bahn AG. No matter what the Deutsche Bahn AG says about taking pictures of train stations, it is a violation of the architect's copyright. If you say it isn't or just wish it weren't so, you simply don't know what you're talking about. --Fb78 12:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In my country, Norway you are free to take pictures of buildings: Lovdata § 24. Byggverk kan fritt avbildes. And there are no limitations taking pictures inside the building. But i would put the name of the architect in the photo page. You have the same CONSOLIDATED ACT ON COPYRIGHT 2003* 24.–(3) Buildings may be freely reproduced in pictorial form and then made available to the public.---Nina- 13:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but the picture was taken in Germany, not in Norway. German UrhG §59 says: "Zulässig ist, Werke, die sich bleibend an öffentlichen Wegen, Straßen oder Plätzen befinden, mit Mitteln der Malerei oder Graphik, durch Lichtbild oder durch Film zu vervielfältigen, zu verbreiten und öffentlich wiederzugeben. Bei Bauwerken erstrecken sich diese Befugnisse nur auf die äußere Ansicht." My translation: "It is allowed with the means of painting, graphics, photography or film to copy, distribute and publish works that are permanently installed at public streets, roads or places. For buildings, this is only vaild for the exterior view." See also de:Panoramafreiheit. --Fb78 13:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So does this in fact mean that no photographs taken indoors in Germany can be used on Commons unless the architect has been dead for at least 70 years? That's going to be a lot of pictures to delete, I think! What about Image:Green-eyed cat.jpg and Image:Angr.jpg? They were both taken indoors in Germany, and I don't know if the architect has been dead for 70 years. Do these images violate the architect's copyright under German law? Angr 22:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not, please use some common sense. The pictures you mentioned do not show the architecture, but a person and a cat. We're talking about pictures that are intented to show the architecture itself. And they're only a problem if the architecture is actually creative enough to be copyrightable. FMany buildings are probably not copyrightable, but the Berlin Hauptbahnhof certainly is. Its architect, gmp, is currently suing the Deutsche Bahn for making changes to their architectural plans - that's a copyright violation as well. --Fb78 10:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So I don't have to worry if I just say the intent of Image:BlnHauptbahnhof34.jpg is to show a large number of people, a dog, and a train? Angr 15:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's not something you decide. If the photographer is sued by the architect, the judge will have to decide whether the image intends to show the architecture or something else. All you can do is guess. Or look for older verdicts that can be used as a reference. Wikipedia is a pretty good start for some basic information on copyright. --Fb78 15:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am the photographer of Image:BlnHauptbahnhof34.jpg. Angr 19:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't matter. The judge won't care what your intention was, she will decide from the picture if it shows copyrighted material or not. --Fb78 10:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just got a friendly mail from Deutsche Bahn AG: zu Ihrer u. a. Anfrage erteilen wir Ihnen hiermit gern die Freigabe. Bitte melden, falls Sie darüber hinaus noch ein besonderes Dokument benötigen.. Translation: we happily grant you a release/clearance. And they offer to provide it in writing. Now I'm happy with this email as far as it was DB property I took the picture on. The next mail will go Meinhard von Gerkan. Lets see how he replies. --Dschwen 12:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Permission is irrelevant, isn't it? As I understand it, Wikimedia projects can't use copyrighted images "by permission". An image at Commons has to be completely free, not used by permission. Angr 09:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You are interpreting. Neither did I use the word permission nor did I state it was for Wikimedia Projects exclusively. --Dschwen 16:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am in doubt that Bahn AG has the right to allow to use the work of the architect to everyone by allowing putting a picture on commons. --Historiograf 20:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fb78, are you sure that this image counts as an indoor image? I consider it to be outdoors and I wouldn't consider this to be a building -- more like a construction.... Is it a building because it has a roof? Then a bus shelter would be a building. / Fred Chess 11:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. — Erin (talk) 08:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't see any reason why this should be in public domain. The author isn't know, but the photography isn't even older than 50-60 years. Shaqspeare 10:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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The same for this. Two-dimensional diagram, draw by Le Corbusier (died 1965). Or maybe there is any reason? Shaqspeare 10:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 19:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Photoshopped image, used for a hoax article on Wikipedia. See [6]. - 195.113.23.173 10:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC), Mike Rosoft.[reply]


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Please delete. Owner (me) wants to upload another version with less meta data. Thanks. LexPics


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Better and larger version is now available: Image:Wappen Wittnau Breisgau.png --Rosenzweig 17:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Image:VDV flag.svg was uploaded again with a more suitable name. All its uses were replaced by Image:Flag of the Russian Airborne Troops.svg.--Darz Mol 22:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Done. Tagged with {{Badname}} --ALE! 12:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to not have rights reserved. Even if the person who changed it wanted to release their rights, it seems to have been on a copyrighted, unlicensed image. --Rory096 22:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, items like this are speedyable. (obviously not going to be used in a good faith educational sense, only vandalism) pfctdayelise (translate?) 03:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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superseded by Image:Flag of Tuvalu.svg --jed 09:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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copyvio, not free --Shizhao 16:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Claimed to be GFDL, but the e-mail with the permission ([7], in Norwegian) says "As far as I know all images in frp.no can be used freely". I do not consider this clear enough to claim that the images are GFDL, although a link to the GFDL is provided by the user asking in the original e-mail asking for permission.

The user uploading the images does not see the need to ask again using Commons:Email templates.

An image from frp.no has been deleted previously, see Commons:Deletion_requests/Archives10#Image:Siv_Jensen.jpg. Kjetil_r 19:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When I now read the e-mail carefully, I see that the user asking for permission linked to the GNU general public licence, not the GFDL. I think this fact further weakens the uploader's GFDL claim. Kjetil_r 19:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete The final answer from frp.no is "As far as I know all images on frp.no can be used freely, but if there is any doubt, contact us". That doesn't sound at all like someone who has checked with the photographer whether or not the images can be licensed under GFDL. Furthermore, the reply from FrP only states that they can be used freely, no mention in either the request or the reply about modification. Cnyborg 01:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --Kjetil_r 01:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work -- EugeneZelenko 14:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete commons:Derivative works, poor quality, not useful, and only used in one userfied page on en., which I'm going to list for deleteion on MFD now as the user has no contribs outside of making the article that was userfied, the AFD, or promoting the subject of the article. Kotepho 21:32, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted. howcheng {chat} 19:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • This picture was produced by a private television company. Why should they give anything away for free? And especially, for reproduction too?
  • In such a case we need the written permission here. This should be no problem, because the uploader claims to have it in hand. --AM 22:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is a quote of the email giving permission -- Gorgo 00:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, why isn't there a copy of this email with the name of the person who was giving the permission? -- AM 18:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For God's sake, there was considerable email with the company. Before you delete, contact me directly at the WMF office, and I willl respond accordingly. They gave us these pictures under our own terms as publicity for their series. Danny 20:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is one more point I don't like. -- AM 22:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, if you want to argue about it some more, talk to User:Danny directly as he requests. Thankyou! pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Bad choice. No copyright. Your responsibility. -- AM 21:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Discussion reopened. I think there is still need to discuss this. I want to have the permission Email including the name of the person how gave the permission. I think this is aline with the Commons requirements. --ALE! 08:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Are you guys aware that User:Danny is a paid employee of the Wikimedia Foundation? Am I operating in an alternate universe? ALE! if permission is forwarded to the OTRS system, it doesn't have to be posted publicly. I really don't see how that is different to a personal statement by Danny. pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore why is it that 100 people here are happy to argue until they're blue in the face but it is still me that contacted Danny as he requested? Please be reasonable, co-operate and stop acting like WMF lawyers when it's counterproductive!!! >:| pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Calm down. How the hell should I know that Danny is working for the Foundation? But besides of that, why do we not put the permission on the discussion page of the image. What is so bad about it? --ALE! 14:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I overreacted, but contact me directly at the WMF office is a pretty good hint don't you think? pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Secret permission? -- AM 22:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can't we just put a link to the OTRS ticket number by using {{PermissionOTRS}}? That way it's clear that the permission is official and future confusion can be avoided (I for one also didn't know until now that Danny worked for the foundation). NielsF 22:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We need a specific ticket to link to for {{PermissionOTRS}}, otherwise it is next to meaningless. Anyone could put it anywhere. If anyone can tell me a specific ticket number I'll happily check it. pfctdayelise (translate?) 03:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can't you look up the ticket number, Pfctdayelise? (See: Template talk:PermissionOTRS#Commons people with access to OTRS). Then, we could finish this thing finally. --ALE! 10:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept — Erin (talk) 08:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON I only uploaded this photo to see how Wikimedia Commons worked so I could upload future photos. Now I'd like my photo deleted.

  • ARGUMENTS
There is no such file. --ALE! 09:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
corrected file name. /Fred Chess 13:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Should be speedable, or not? I have put a speedy tag on the description page. --ALE! 13:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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same Image:Blason Normandie.png--Shizhao 09:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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REASON: These protected areas are called "National Historical Parks". See: Category:National Historical Parks of the United States. --Eoghanacht 14:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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There's no point in having a page for him if we can't upload his pictures for 28 years yet. Delete. --Angr 20:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, I speedied it (no images). As always, anyone can feel free to recreate it should some relevant FREE images become available. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the official Rambo IV teaser poster, I do not believe that the uploader holds copyright on it. CyrilB 21:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. To the uploader: Please read Commons:Licensing. --Fb78 13:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This map is not right. Serbia does not have official boreders like this. User who made it was not looking sources. Please see map of Serbia, and you'll see what is right. --Pokrajac 11:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep It looks ok, nothing is wrong with it. Shaqspeare 22:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep I looked on the map. Location is perfect. -- AM 22:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 13:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Someone claiming to be the photographer sent a ticket to m:OTRS requesting they be removed as a copyright violation. They have yet to give any proof that they are, in fact, the owner, and I will update this notice should they do so. I understand the tag {{PD-Art}} because it is a photograph of cave drawings, but I imagine there are many other photographs of the cave that could be used. Shell Kinney 13:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • We had a case like this before. Conclusion was that PD-Art cannot apply to caves because caves are 3D, not 2D, therefore there is artistic expression in taking photos of it, and so they attain copyright in taking such a picture. An understandable mistake though. pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further information: It appears the person who emailed m:OTRS owns the caves and did not give the archeologists studying the cave permission to release any photographs. Also, per pfctdayelise, it would appear that the license is incorrect as well. Unless there's a reason these shouldn't be deleted, I'd appreciate it if we could have them removed as soon as possible. Shell Kinney 03:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, for OTRS people: see [8] pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Claimed as GFDL, but no evidence suggests that this is GFDL. It appears to be an icon copied from an official website (which would make it copyrighted) rather than something created specifically for wikicommons/wikipedia. --Jiang 04:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged it with the correct template ({{subst:nsd}}) -- Gorgo 22:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Closed, handled elsewhere. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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clone and bad version of Image:Mapa_da_Póvoa_de_Varzim.png. If possible: Speedy delete. --PedroPVZ 13:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Duplicate, with less definion. Request by uploader. --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: fala comigo 10:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There was a previously existing version of this image (Image:Variable Resistor.svg) which was updated to the corrected version. The only link to Image:Variable resistor.svg from other wikis has been removed, so it should be deleted to avoid confusion. -- Dr. Schorsch 13:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete looks duplicate. --Tomia 21:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Tagged with {{Duplicate}} --ALE! 12:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted --ALE! 12:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Content from enwiki said "from the CBC, public domain, although cannot be used to make a profit in any way," so it's unlikely that CBC has changed its policies to now allow commercial use. --Rory096 16:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Fred chessplayer --ALE! 17:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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In due to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Margaret_Mead.jpg this image is not in the GNU FDL (it is a Fair Use one). -- John N. (@ me) 16:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Done. Tagged with {{Copyvio}} --ALE! 12:07, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Next time I'll do it with copyvio. Regards, John N. (@ me) 13:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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REASON upped again as Image:Saxifraga aizoides.jpg in better quality --Tigerente 16:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Same image but higher resolution. --Raymond de 18:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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duplicate/old version Joachim Köhler 18:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploaded to german wikipedia in december 2005, since then without Licens. Uploader was asked severeal times without any reaction. Speedy? --dbenzhuser 21:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Done. {{subst:nld}} added --ALE! 09:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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not suitable material for the commons --JeremyA 03:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 09:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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poor image quality, a better "identical" image can be found at Image:Ophiopogon jaburan0.jpg --Arafi 20:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, one of them should be deleted. However, I think the first one is better, as the left side is not that vague. So I say: delete no. 0 and keep no. 1. Effeietsanders 09:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 11:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Questionable licence; the pictured content was clearly not created on 6 June 2006 (as stated by the uploader). --JeremyA 00:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the uploader is talking about his QV-5700 CASIO  :) --Tarawneh 04:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
License is wrong, should be PD-ineligible. Keep. --Fb78 13:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PD-ineligible would definitely be the wrong license, as this image certainly contains original authorship. It could be PD-Soviet, though the accuracy of that claim is uncertain. Angr 09:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't know anything about copyright, please don't assume you do. There is no original authorship in this image. It's a simple book cover, consisting of a couple of words + layout. Anyone can do this and it is not protected in any way. If it showed a poem or prose or an image, it would perhaps be protected. If you read German well, you can read de:Schöpfungshöhe. --Fb78 09:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Germany's laws on de:Schöpfungshöhe are different from those in the U.S. Since the Wikimedia Foundation is based in the U.S., U.S. law has to take precedence, although violating laws of other countries isn't allowed either. The threshold of originality in the U.S. is extremely low; both this and the REWE logos mentioned above are original enough to make them copyrightable. Logos aren't allowed at Commons (just look where the template {{Logo}} redirects to), and this book cover has far more original authorship than a logo. In fact, the presence of a logo on this book cover is already itself enough reason why this image isn't acceptable at Commons. Angr 07:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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"Photograph credits must be included when using pics" — stating the obvious minimum requirement established by copyright laws is not a "for any purpose" license. --Samulili 18:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment: Wouldn't template:attribution be appropriate for these? --tomf688 (talk - email) 20:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so. IMHO, the copyright owner of those pictures has not given anyone the license to do what they want with the picture. The owner has only stated that when the pictures are used ("fair use") they must be attributed. -Samulili 06:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Both images: very poor image quality --Arafi 20:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

both redundant to Image:Carlina_vulgaris_170805.jpg so   Delete -- Gorgo 21:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Carline vulgaris1.jpg deleted; Image:Carline vulgaris0.jpg kept--Shizhao 11:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The image was used on no.wikipedia to illustrate a vanity article. If the information given there was correct, the girl is 14 years old. Under Norwegian copyright law section 45, her parents or legal guardians (as she is too young to give legal consent) would have to agree to publication; as this is actually part of the copyright law and not a separate privacy law, I believe the photographer might not have the right to release it into the public domain. --Cnyborg 00:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. The uploader had no legal right to publish the image. " Fotografi som avbilder en person kan ikke gjengis eller vises offentlig uten samtykke av den avbildede" and none of the exceptions can be applied. -Samulili 11:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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(from de.wikipedia deletion request) Der FIFA World Cup-Pokal ist offensichtlich urheberrechtlich als Werk der bildenden Künste geschützt. Er wurde 1971 vom Italiener Silvio Gazzaniga entworfen und die Schutzfrist wäre deshalb selbst dann noch nicht abgelaufen, wenn der Mann direkt danach tot umgefallen wäre. Während das Foto als solches unter einer freien Lizenz steht, verhindert das Urheberrecht am abgebildeten Cup jegliche Nutzung des Fotos außerhalb des engen Rahmens eines Zitats. Das entspricht zwar der tatsächlichen Benutzung in Wikipedia-Artikeln, nach den derzeitigen Richtlinien reicht das aber nicht, weil das wesentlich mehr Einschränkungen sind als bei der bei Wikipedia grade noch akzeptierten urheberrechtlichen Ausnahme der Panoramafreiheit (die zwar nonderivative für die entsprechenden Bildteile ist, aber wenigstens uneingeschränkte kommerzielle Nutzung erlaubt). Fotos bei Wikipedia sollen von jedermann kommerziell ausgeschlachtet und wenn es nicht grade Panoramafreiheit ist auch beliebig verändert werden dürfen, nicht nur für Zitatzwecke in journalistischen oder wissenschaftlichen Kontexten verwendbar sind. --Rtc 12:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also applies for Image:Replica World Cup.jpg and Image:FIFA Worldcup Copy for Germany 1990.jpg.

Rough translation of Rtc's request: "The FIFA World Cup trophy is protected as a work of the arts. It was designed by Silvio Gazzaniga in 1971 and therefor isn't in the public domain. While the photography itself is published under a free license, the copyright of the trophy itself doesn't allow using the photo as anything else than a quote (or fair use). According to the current Wikicommons guildelines that's not free enough." See also the discussion on Action figures above. --Fb78 08:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep According to German jurisdiction (Bundesverfassungsgericht) works of applied arts are often not protected with copyright but according to Geschmacksmustergesetz. The cup is a work of applied art. See the discussion on de with further arguments against the opinions of Rtc --Historiograf 19:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep--Iryna Nepomenko 20:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep - the Cup is a three-dimensional work, and photographing it produces a new copyright (if I get it right). Conscious 07:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't vote if you don't know about copyright. It's a derived work and permissible only for freedom of panorama (and even in such cases only nonderivative), depending on iurisdiction. --Rtc 03:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To stay on the safe side, I have deleted these from Commons. Copies are present on the English Wikipedia and English Wikinews, under the doctrine of fair use. Any local Wikipedias can take the pics from there if they want them too. — Erin (talk) 04:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Under "CC Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0". Not sure if this licence is acceptable on Commons because cannot find information on it and/or links. --Sukh 14:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. See Commons:Licensing for details. --EugeneZelenko 15:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Source seems to be http://fjellbaatlag.com/ , but there is no gfdl nor cc-by-sa licenses. --Tomia 21:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 11:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

unknown license since September 2005, no answer to Raymond_de/OTRS since March 2006 --Avatar 00:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who has OTRS access? This is your job! pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Today I sent an email to CSU again. If no positive answer --> Delete. --Raymond de 06:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, you said the press department sent it to us through OTRS! What does the ticket say? Isn't that enough? pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it doesn't get the threshold of originality (or German Schöpfungshöhe) to underlie copyright. So it should be kept. --::Slomox:: >< 11:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Totally disagree. If we used this basis most logos would be kept here. {{PD-ineligible}} should be kept to an absolute minimum. pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's bad because many images could then be used on Commons? I don't get your point. --::Slomox:: >< 13:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you seriously think there was "no original authorship" in this logo? If this logo is PD-ineligible, then the Wikimedia Foundation logo is definitely so. Not to mention the Microsoft logo, and definitely McDonalds - there's not much to a yellow "M", is there? We should not be trying to find ways to pretend that logos are free. We'll just open ourselves up to a legal minefield. pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is certainly not a copyvio by any standard. It's far too simple to be protected by copyright. Seriously. You can't pick a word, print it in a nice font and then say it's copyrighted and noone else can do the same. There's just not enough creativity involved. Therefore, it can only be protected as a trademark. --Fb78 09:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot believe we are still having this discussion. Am I the only one that can see a quite fancy lion in the middle of that stupid picture? Have you seen Microsoft's logo? It's much simpler than this. McDonalds is the simplest thing I've seen. Even simpler is the Wikimedia Foundation logo! Can we have this debate in reality?? Besides which the original deletion debate was not even about the alleged originality or otherwise of this logo. It's about what license the owners licensed it under. Gah!!! pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The fancy lion is just taken from the Bavarian coat of arms. The owner has not to licence it, when it is PD. And yes, from a copyright point of view the other logos you name are also free (but unfree from a trademark point of view, so this has to be mentioned, when we keep it). This opinion is explicitly based on German legislation as described in de:Schöpfungshöhe#Aufwand_unerheblich, which does not know sweat of the brow. --::Slomox:: >< 12:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

keep pfctdayelise is confusing copyright and other rights. Slomox is absolutely right. There is according to German law no copyvio and CSU is a German institution. Not to give free the Wikimedia logo is a decision on the field of trademark law not of copyright. According to German law and the decions of Bundesverfassungsgericht Wikimedia logo isn't copyright-protected in Germany --Historiograf 20:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • German law is irrelevant. Wikimedia policy is that logos can be used only under a fair-use claim, and Commons doesn't permit fair-use images. Angr 07:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can you people please decide on one policy. On this very site, in the discussion for Image:CRDA Cant Z.1007bis Alcione bombing (1941).jpg, I'm told by User:Reptil in endless tirades that only Italian law is valid and not US law. In the CDU logo case, German law is claimed to irrelevant and only US law is valid. Whatever you want, folks, but please publish a policy once and for all that is decisive on those matters and don't leave every semi-expert running around and pick the guideline they agree with the most. --Fb78 18:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
well said! --Historiograf 02:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you didn't notice, we're all semi-experts (or more likely non-experts) trying to do the best we can. Some of the questions that come up are not clear even for lawyers (like German vs US law). If you can think of some good way to solve these problems then please let us all know. pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ich möchte mich dagegen verwahren, dass ich lediglich ein Semi-Experte bin. Dass Pfctdayelise kein Experte ist, wird man wohl behaupten dürfen. Wir haben klare Logo-Regelungen auf de, mit denen wir sehr gut leben. Ist ein Logo urheberrechtlich nicht geschützt, weil es zu alt oder die Schöpfungshöhe nicht erreicht, nehmen wir es, desgleichen urheberrechtlich geschützte Logos dauerhaft im Straßenbild (Panoramafreiheit). Es ist ein Irrglaube, dass Werke unter GNU FDL in jeder Hinsicht frei sind. Bilder lebender Personen dürfen nicht kommerziell ohne deren Genehmigung genutzt werden, auch wenn sie der Fotograf unter GNU FDL stellt. Die Olympischen Ringe sind durch Sonderschutz geschützt. Unzählige hier fotografierte Gegenstände sind vom Geschmacksmusterschutz betroffen. Wappen sind namensrechtlich oder öffentlich-rechtlich geschützt. Die GNU FDL betrifft nur das Urheberrecht, keine anderen Rechte. Ändert endlich diese bescheuerte Logo-Policy! Wenn ich mich recht entsinne, hat Villy von der Foundation derlei angeregt, aber die Nichtskönner hier haben es hintertrieben. --Historiograf 00:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Historiograf, as you have argued for english being the lingua franca on this page, you shouldn't keep back your "harsh" opinion from non-german speakers...--Wiggum 13:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as copyvio. I've never heard of any political party giving a permission for unrestricted use of its logo. Besides, the image clearly contains artistic elements. Historiograf, if you wish to question the knowledge of Pfctdayelise or anyone else here, please stick to English. Valentinian (talk) 23:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't read Historiograf's comment (it's to be found in both, the English and the German one). There is no need to get permission if it does not fall under copyright, so your comment is pointless. In fact the use is restricted, but not through copyright. And no, restriction is no problem. Respecting these resctrictions is duty of the person using it in a specific context. If I take a photo of George W. Bush (or every other person) from Commons and make an extremely libelous photomontage of it, this maybe would be illegal, if it hurts his personal rights. But does this mean the photo can't be GNU-FDL or PD, cause you can't modify it as you want? Of course not, personal rights are independent from copyright. And no, according to German jurisdiction, the logo does not contain artistic elements, that are copyrightable. --::Slomox:: >< 11:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Essjay I am not sure whether I should close the discussion or not. --ALE! 10:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like something taken directly from a porn movie. No metadata, and this picture makes up 3 of user's 5 contributions. -- Jon Harald Søby 20:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I propose: ask the user to reupload the original high resolution image to prove it is their own work. If they cannot/will not, delete as presumed copyvio. pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    •   KeepIt doesnt offend me like porn, its a good picture. I would never upload original sources if i where the author. Its a good pic 4 me. Martinuschka, Awstrija
kept--Shizhao 15:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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german photographer, so pd-polish doesn't apply. --Jpetersen 22:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's very unlikely that a polish photographer has recorded the very beginning of the german aggression against poland in 1939. Therefore Delete.--Wiggum 12:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Very unlikely is just your persononal POV, please prove to me it was not a Polish photographer. It looks to me more like copyright paranoia - no offence.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Besides, I doubt the nationality of the photographer is a factor in copyright. At least that was not the case in both Polish and German copyright laws of the time, not to mention modern laws. Halibutt 22:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, according to {{PD-Polish}} and also the talk page at Template talk:PD-Polish, nationality does seems to matter: it applies to "works of Polish photographers or works first published in Poland". The image appears to me (quite obviously, in fact) to have been taken from aboard the German warship Schleswig Holstein in 1939 and hence in all likelihood was taken by a German sailor or war reporter. Claiming that the photographer was Polish is a bit far-fetched in this case. If you want to claim that he was Polish, I think you really should provide verifiable proof of the photographer's identity and his biography. That leaves us with the second case: can you prove that image was first published lawfully in Poland? That there was no earlier publication in Germany or elsewhere? If not, delete (protected until 70 years p.m.a., i.e. at the very least until December 31, 2009). Lupo 07:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unsure about the nationality, Jpetersen confused me a little bit. But as Poland is member of the European Union, they should have adopted the 70 years pma rule.--Wiggum 13:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  • 東亜日報(Dong-a Ilbo)ホームページからのコピー。 [9](japanese)トップページ[10](korean)で無断複製を禁止している。
  • 동아일보 홈페이지에서 퍼온 것.[11](japanese) 첫 페이지에서[12](korean)에서 무단복사가 금지되어 있다.--hyolee2 02:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. LERK (Talk / Contributions) 03:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Dupe image because of an upload error -- Wdwd 12:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. There is no need to put duplicates here, jsut tag them as speedies.

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fairuse logo Michiel1972 15:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Sanbec --ALE! 13:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Nor suitable material for the commons --JeremyA


deleted --ALE! 12:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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no source--Shizhao 06:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The immage is an exact duplicate of Image:Bratislava-grassalkovičov palác.jpg --ALE! 12:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

done tagged with {{Duplicate}} --ALE! 12:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I have nominated this image for deleted because I find it not encyclopedic. Google does not really know about any 'Marck Christensen'. Siebrand 07:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • If it were being used on a userpage somewhere, it would be okay, but it isn't, so delete. Angr 09:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ehr, would it? I'm very much against uploading images solely for user pages. Is there a guideline that support your point of view? Please show I to me and I'll agree. Siebrand 11:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • There is no guideline, but the fact is that people upload pictures of themselves for their user pages. Do you seriously think, if they use five or six wikis, they shouldn't upload to the Commons? Also see Category:Wikipedians. They are useful, in some broad sense, to Wikimedia projects. pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • en:Wikipedia:User_page says you can add a little info about yourself. I assume the may include photos -- "You might want to add quotes that you like, or a picture, or some of your favorite Wikipedia articles or images". But it also says "Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia.", which means you shouldn't upload lots of rubbish such as random images, scribbles, etc., just to put on your user page. / Fred Chess 16:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete, unused and does not look to be useful to any Wikimedia project. --Pmsyyz 04:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete, just useless.
deleted--Shizhao 13:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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same Image:UK Royal Coat of Arms.png--Shizhao 09:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept --ALE! 11:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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practically the same as Image:Flag of Argentina (alternative).svg. I have change all references from the "civil" version to the "alternative" version. Therefore the image is not used any more and there should be only one SVG version. --ALE! 10:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Commercial use is not allowed. --Phrood 10:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Done tagged with {{Noncommercial}} --ALE! 11:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This file has been superseded by image:Provincia de Granada.png.--Shizhao 06:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 14:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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All pictures of little girls uploaded by User:Belginusanl

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User:Belginusanl takes photos of random little girls he sees in public and uploads them to Wikipedia. Not only is this at least vaguely creepy, and rather unrelated to the main purposes of Wikipedia/Wikimedia, a look at his user page also reveals that his licence conditions are somewhat dubious with respect to Wikimedia Commons -- and a potentially significant problem is that taking individual "portraits" in this way raises privacy issues, and possibly even legal issues. Did Belginusanl get the girls' parents' permission? Can Belginusanl document that he got the girls' parent's permission. Does Belginusanl actually need a model release? Minimal educational or informational value plus maximal potential problems equals delete, by my calculations. AnonMoos 03:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

etc. etc. etc.

  • Hm, I warned him about the license, still hasn't changed it. If he doesn't change it within a week I will delete all his images with it regardless of the content. Apart from that, ACK AnonMoos. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete them - in several U.S. states (including Florida, where the Wikimedia Foundation is headquartered) the law prohibits displays of an person's image without consent (or of a minor's image without parental consent). BD2412 T 05:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you don't have a solid citation, please withdraw the above claim. The issue with minors is indeed somewhat complex, but people in public spaces are fair game in Florida, with the standard exception of using someones image for endorsement (which is why we should have a standard model release, as well as for countries with more annoying laws (I.e. France)).--Gmaxwell 17:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete: I'm getting quite suspicious about this user: he once placed Image:Twolittlegirls.JPG on the Dutch wiki, saying he had permission from the parents, moved the image to Commons when we wanted to delete it, and in the end, it apparently got deleted because of the parents request, according to the log. Also, he place a large amount of pictures of little girls in a gallery on nl:Kind (Child in Dutch) only yesterday. The gallery was the same as in Little girl, with some extra pictures added to it. (apparently the contents of Child. I don't understand why all this images should be uploaded: they serve no purpose whatsoever, and are not even in proper categories. --Tuvic 19:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete, incompatible license conditions. --Pmsyyz 04:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete, incompatible license, images do not serve any clear Wikimedia purpose. Commons isn't your personal stalking gallery. --Gmaxwell 17:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete, these images do not serve any useful purpose at Commons. Commons is not a free image hosting website. Theoretically, everything here should be usable in some project. These aren't. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 17:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • see for legal advice

http://community.lawyers.com/messageboards/message.asp?channelId=&subId=&mId=795952&mbId=5&threadId=10025

I took only four images of children in public. A lawyer informed me that "Are you allowed to take pictures of people including children in plain view, anything visible from public area with out there permision and registering them as copyright and posting it on the Internet (wikipedia.org) and publising it?" This applies in the United States were those pictures were taken. The other pictures that I posted were taken of a different website and were released to the public domain. If you view the pictures you will see a link to a source. Another administrator from en.wikipedia.org informed me that I have the right to do that. He even check the license of that website. The other image I took was removed as a courtesy of the parent. Intently I was given permission to post it. Later they wanted me to take it down. Legally I did not have to take it down but I did so to do the parent a favor, because the parent was a friend of mine. According to the law in The United States a reporter does not per permission to take a picture of a person adult or child and post it in a newspaper or show on TV. I do not know how to write a proper license on how to release the image. Can moderator give me advise on how to change it. --Belginusanl 19:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

we're not talking about newspapers, we're talking about selling a portrait of someone for money. This has to be allowed according to commons licencing guidelines. It's not allowed if the person didn't agree. -- Gorgo 20:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK there are a few separate issues here:
  • 1. Belginusanl's license as stated on his user page. It is not allowed to have a restriction like "Wikimedia only". If you don't remove this restriction, regardless of anything else, the images will have to be deleted. This is a copyright problem.
  • 2. Whether having so many photos of random children is a necessary or useful thing for Wikimedia. This is a community opinion and nothing to do with copyright, but it can still be a reason for deletion.
  • 3. Whether or not Belginusanl has the "right" to publish these images (personality rights, privacy rights). I think Gorgo is confused and these are not to do with copyright. We are not using them commercially. If someone else wants to, it is up to them to gain the necessary permission. It is a restriction, but not a copyright restriction, it's an "other law" restriction. That is my amatuer interpretation. Commons does not really have a clear policy about privacy/personality rights.

--pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have released all four images under the folowing license --Belginusanl 19:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Cc-by-2.5}}

I would prefer to delete these images unless Belginusanl gives us some very good reason what for he needs these images. I have a bad feeling about it. --ALE! 21:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I exactly agree. I think we should delete them under (2): the community does not want to have dozens of photos of random children for no reason. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Me too. Delete all as per pfctdayelise. Valentinian (talk) 23:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a reason to keep these children-pin-ups. -- AM 20:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will deleted all images of little children in the next few hours / days. Please give me some time to check all the usages and do not remove this discussion until I am through. I will keep you informed. --ALE! 08:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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--SPUI 05:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by uploader request --ALE! 15:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no source, and may copyvio. --Shizhao 05:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The only source is an email address to an unknown recipient. Thuresson 16:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, Thuresson 11:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Outdated. Created in November 2004. / Fred Chess 21:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the page. Have a look - there are quite a few pages that have grwon way too big... -- Duesentrieb(?!) 22:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept --ALE! 07:41, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Claimed to be work of en:User:Oahc but in reality actual source is [13] which seems to have no connection to Oahc. Also see w:User talk:Icarus3#Image:Childwithdimples.jpg wherein Oahc appears to admit s/he is not the author. howcheng {chat} 17:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it was my fault, I had not properly verified the copyright of the image when I uploaded it from Wikipedia. The image apparently is already deleted there, for the same motives. I would vote to delete it here as well. Leslie 07:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Valentinian (talk) 23:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I have learned that the Seal of Nebraska is protected by a permission-only license (see here for details); therefore, it can't be available on Commons. (In addition, the licensing status of the other 49 state seals should be examined, as many of them are likely to be protected in ways that most other images are not.) – Swid (talk | edits) 15:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - You should not confuse copyvio and other rights Please contact the COA-project here at Commons --Historiograf 19:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept --ALE! 23:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This picture is available bigger and in colour: Image:Bonn-Cölner-Eisenbahn 1844.jpg. Not used. -Samulili 14:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Image source is just an image hosting site. There is no information about the author of the image or its licensing terms, and certainly no reason why {{NoRightsReserved}} is applicable. howcheng {chat} 06:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this contributor uses "images.google.com" as a source. Thuresson 21:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete if no copyrigth owner is given. --Tomia 12:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Official logo of an European Athletics Organization. Didn't mark it as {{logo}} only because the uploader did not specify any license, so there is a sliiight chance that the logo itself is in PD even if the site is copyrighted (yes, I am a mathematician). --romanm (talk) 22:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image of copyrighted object (Pokemon toy) does not create new copyright for the photographer, fair use/copyvio --Denniss 10:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right and you're not. Pikachu is copyrighted, no doubt about that. I have doubts about the consoles though: their design is too plain to be copyrighted. Look, it's simple: If you take a photograph of a modern art sculpture or a modern painting, you can't upload it here, right? Same for Pikachu. See below the discussion on Image:Bulbasaur toy.JPG --Fb78 18:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, see below. --Fb78 20:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image of copyrighted object (Pokemon toy) does not create new copyright for the photographer --Denniss 12:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • So you're saying that if I take a photograph of a kid who happens to be holding a stuffed Winnie the Pooh toy, Disney owns the coyright on the photo by extension since they own the Pooh design? I'm not a lawyer, but I'm about 99.999999% certain that's not correct. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Probably in this case it's OK if Winnie the Pooh is not the main object of this specific image. If such a copyrighted toy is the main object it has to be deleted. If you need this images (obviously as it's used in a template) please reupload it to en wiki as fair use. --Denniss 13:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget that virtually every commercial product is covered by some sort of copyright: cars, chairs, toys, computers, electronics, spoons, nearly everything. To disallow images of products and designs would make illustrating articles such as iPod pretty much impossible, not to mention hundreds of automotive articles. In fact, pretty much the whole of Category:Technology would have to go. I don't think this is based on correct interpretation of copyright law, and I see it setting a rather dangerous precedent if it succeeds. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You do realize that most cars use a pretty common design that is not copyrightable, because it lacks originality and creativity? And you do realize that there are things, like sculptures, paintings, action figures that are creative and therefore generally copyrighted? And that you can't just take a picture of any modern painting or sculpture and upload it here? Why do you people not get it that it's the same thing whether you take a picture of a sculpture or a picture of Darth Vader? Both are copyrighted, in both cases, the copyright of the photograph does not void the original copyright, and in both cases you'll need the permission of the original creator. What's so difficult about believing that?
Why do you believe that the design of your alarm clock or your dinner plate is copyrighted in the same way Mickey Mouse is? And why do you believe that while you can't upload pictures of a sculpture by Picasso, you can upload photographs of Mickey Mouse or Pokemon figures?
Numerous lawsuits have shown that Mickey Mouse or Asterix are subject to copyright and have to be treated as a work of art, while a common spoon or a table are not works of art. They can be copyrighted, perhaps, if they were created by a designer, but the ones you use at home are probably not. Of course, you can put together four sticks and a board and call it a chair, or take a box, stick a controller to it and call it a video game, but no court in the world will accept that you now hold the copyright to it. Even in the US. And if you're one of those people who, like User:Angr, believe that even four letters and a red line can be copyrighted, it's one more reason to delete them all because then those pictures are not free.
If you want actual case studies here is one, here is another. I've come up with other ones before.
And no, it doesn't matter whether Mickey Mouse is printed on a T-shirt, which is worn by yourself, while you're walking in a public place, loudly reciting the GFDL. That doesn't at all give you the right to take a picture of the T-shirt, cut out Mickey Mouse and upload it as "free" material. Nothing you'll ever do, whether you draw Pikachu with your own crayons or sculpt a giant Sailor Moon figurine, will ever lead to the point where you magically turn copyrighted material into "free" material. --Fb78 18:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is a difference between a copyrighted image and a copyrighted character/object. If you make your own picture of an object, I'm pretty sure you can license it anyway you choose, as long as it is made clear that the characters are copyrighted by another source. For example, If I draw a picture of Pikachu, I can say "Picture copyright 2006 Ac1983fan inc. Characters and logos are copyright 2006, Nintendo of America."--Ac1983fan 20:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course you can do that, but the character is still copyrighted by nintendo and they will make you pay (and probably sue you) if you use these pictures for anything public even if you created them yourself. Why do you think companys pay a lot of money to use characters like that for advertising if it was so easy to just slap a copyright notice on it? -- Gorgo 22:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct. You create a copyright for your own work, but the original copyright still exists. And you won't be able to use your own work (except under fair use) unless the original creator gave you permission. May I quote from en:Derivative work:
In the United States, "derivative work" is defined in 17 U.S.C. § 101 [14]:
A "derivative work," that is, a work that is based on (or derived from) one or more already existing works, is copyrightable if it includes what the copyright law calls an "original work of authorship." Derivative works, also known as "new versions," include such works as translations, musical arrangements, dramatizations, fictionalizations, art reproductions, and condensations. Any work in which the editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications represent, as a whole, an original work of authorship is a "derivative work" or "new version."
A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law.
To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself. Titles, short phrases, and format, for example, are not copyrightable.
WHO MAY PREPARE A DERIVATIVE WORK? Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or to authorize someone else to create, a new version of that work. The owner is generally the author or someone who has obtained rights from the author. --Fb78 00:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Look. IF what you guys are saying is true, then this and the two images metioned in the above discussion about pikachu should be deleted as well, since they are pictures of copyrighted objects.--Ac1983fan 22:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're right about the Pikachu pictures, but I can't see what could be copyrightable about the NES controller. basically it's just five buttons on a black box. Not so creative, huh? But if you want to, list it for deletion. --Fb78 00:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well then, consider this a nomination for all those images. So, Delete this, Image:Pikachu plastic toy.JPG, Image:Small NES controller.png, Image:Nintendo_ds.jpg and Image:NGC_Gamecube.jpg--Ac1983fan 00:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Deletion_requests#Various_Star_Wars_pictures they should be kept

Oh, stop whining. Do you also think we should close down Commons, just because you can't upload pictures of R2D2? Well, I'd love to upload paintings by Robert Rauschenberg, but I don't, because I know it's illegal. Come on, there's plenty of other photo opportunities that don't violate third party copyrights. One of our central guidelines on Commons is that you can use every picture commercially. George Lucas just won't like it if you print a Commons picture of Darth Vader on a billboard and not ask him for permission, and he has the law on his side. Upload your Star Wars pictures on a fair use Wikipedia, but not here. This project is not going to die because we don't have pictures of Pokemon and Asterix. Some more reading: [15] [16] --Fb78 10:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Speedy Keep its used in almost every single Pokémon article's talk page, and other pages as well. I Love Minun (talk) 12:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
actually we don't vote here, if ten people think it should be kept, but one person finds a legal restriction it has to be deleted. Of course it's a pity that this picture is used in a lot of articles but that doesn't change a thing. You can upload it with the same name to the english wikipedia under fair use of course -- Gorgo 13:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's used in no articles because these pics are only used on talk pages of articles.--207.5.141.142 20:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete And please keep apart works of art (the pokemon) and objects of daily use (gaming consoles), the latter of which generally are not works in the sense of copyright, or, depending on iurisdication, do not show enough originality for the vastly increased prerequisites for copyright protection of such objects. They are generally protected by design patents, which may or may not (depending on iurisdiction again) hinder commercial use of pictures for anything but quotation-like contexts, but that's not our problem, since it's entirely independent of copyright and thus not something that we should care about. --Rtc 06:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But the gamecube is copyrighted, it even syas right on it "(C) 2001 Nintendo". So, if the pics I listed can stay, so can this one.--Ac1983fan 21:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is irrelevant what it says on it. People can't escape rules for originality simply by butting a (c) sticker on the object. --Rtc 15:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, so let me get this straight. Nintendo can copyright the pokemon but not the consoles?--169.244.71.253 17:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Civil persons or corporations cannot copyright *anything*. Only copyright itself can. And (I can only say so for German law), since the design of the console is secondary (its the purpose is to run games, not to look nice) and the design of the pokemon is primary (its design is primary and only purpose), the originality necessary for protection of the former (as a work of applied arts) is higher than for the latter (as a work of fine arts). While these figurines are usually copyrighted, you can't make a general statement about consoles, it depends on the actual case. --Rtc 21:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another link for German speakers: http://www.lawsolution.de/index.php?p=faqitem&id=8#faq168 --217.224.161.67 21:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 14:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted, Thuresson 14:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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For the umpteenth time, photos from the Ron Wise World Paper Money website. According to Ron Wise: "I do not give permission for any donated images to be used. The copyright of a donated image remains with the original owner of the image and their permission must be obtained before the image can be used. I do not give permission for any of the images to be sold, for profit or otherwise.". There is a permission at es:Wikipedia:Autorización para insertar material de Ron Wise which allows use in Wikipedia, but WikiCommons is not Wikipedia etc etc. Thuresson 13:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to [17] this image was donated by Steve Burke.

According to [18] this image was donated by Frank van Tiel.

According to [19] this image was donated by Thomas Augustsson

According to [20] this image was donated by Omer Yalcinkaya

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A photo from German magazine Signal, September 1941. That wasn't 70 years ago but perhaps this can be saved anyway? Thuresson 23:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid, no. According to the image description page, the Photographer was one Emil Grimm, wartime photographer (nowadays we use the euphemism of "embedded reporter/journalist"). Even if he died just after taking that picture, it would be copyrighted in Germany until 2011... according to the source, the photographer was Arthur Grimm, another German war reporter, and it was published in Signal #22 in 1942. More info about these WWII German war journalists, see here. The Signal issues seem to be rather valuable collectioners' items today. Delete Lupo 20:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately Thuresson and Lupo are right, so delete. People working on WWII issues may sometimes despair on that ****** copyright restrictions :-(--84.56.2.241 12:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Interstate shields

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--SPUI 07:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted--Shizhao 12:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON -- suspect GFDL licence. The photo itself is a very poor scan (I can scan it better from a number of copyrighted books..) --Pibwl 18:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Image is from a commercial site selling original photos of WWII vessels.

The PD-old licence is inapplicable because the photo is only 67 years old, whereas the licence requires the photographer to have died 70 years ago. There is no particular reason to believe that any other licence applies, so deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 02:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Erin Silversmith --ALE! 08:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure if categories have their place here, but couldn't find Categories for deletion so here it is. By all means move to category deletion list if there is one.

Is redundant of new category Category:Tramway de Nantes created to replace this one, using the names of the articles on EN and FR. Captain Scarlet 00:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted (In such cases putting a {{Speedydelete}} on the page would be sufficient.) --ALE! 21:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON: Wrong name. It is trend. not cumulative number. (I am the uploader.) --AirBa 09:26, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. There is no need to request a deletion like this here. --Kjetil_r 14:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Nolde died 1956 so there are still missing some years until this painting will be in public domain. --Matt314 12:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but the image was painted in 1910. While I do not know the exact publishing date, I believe it would be before 1923, and hence the image is PD. Avoid Copyright Paranoia-- Chris 73 13:26, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If it was published in the United States before 1923, then it would be out of copyright in the United States in that particular form (or in further transformed derivatives from its particular pre-1923 published form). [Note: I am not a lawyer, and this is an over-simplified summary of a complex situation.] I don't think that a recent color photograph of the painting as it hangs on a museum wall would really qualify under the pre-1923 U.S. exemption. AnonMoos 18:06, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
IANAL either, but if the original is out of copyright, then a photograph (2D reproduction) should also be out of copyright (Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp.). Most scans of images we have here on the commons were made pretty recently, after all. -- Chris 73 19:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. de:Emil Nolde was a German painter who died in 1956, therefore his paintings will be PD in 2026. No arguing about that. --Fb78 06:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think we really need these two .... not of any use anywhere .--Denniss 16:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


'deleted by User:Fb78 --ALE! 17:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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deleted --ALE! 17:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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100% copyright violation of a painting author (I suspect, Adam Werka, but letters are to small). It is not a photograph. Pibwl 18:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC) Pibwl 18:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Werka or Stanisław Kierzkowski. Clearly copyvio, deleted. Shaqspeare 19:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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REASON --I've made a mistake and uploaded tha same picture twice. --Gardomir 21:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --Kjetil_r 21:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON --Deletion requested by the Author, via mail. --M7 21:56, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, no license since 29 May. pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged as cc-by, but the author is “Getty Images for Gibson Lounge”. CC license is unlikely, and a quick look at the other images by the user at flickr ([21]) reveals that he uploads pretty much everything tagging it as cc-by. Kjetil_r 22:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (from the uploader): That's true. I just checked out the flickr profile and there's anything from promotional photos to screenshots tagged as cc-by. I tried to contact the user about this issue, but if we can't prove the picture authorship, the picture should be promptly removed. I'm sorry for the incovenience. --Abu badali 02:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Just checked. It's image #52057143 from getty. Copyvio from http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=52057143 . I am sorry for that. Will double-check my sources next time. Thanks to Kjetil_r for pointing out. --Abu badali 02:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --Fb78 11:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Both were replaced by cropped versions with the same name except for having the file extension in lowercase. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted, please use {{Duplicate}} or {{Badname}} for such cases. --ALE! 13:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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See FIFA World Cup Germany 2006 matches: "Hinweis: Die Veröffentlichung von Bildern von WM-Spielen (Spielszenen, Stadion etc.) zu kommerziellen Zwecken etc. sind von der FIFA verboten! Daher müssen solche Bilder umgehend gelöscht werden. Ausgenommen davon sind akkreditierte Fotografen. [22]" --Stefan 11:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am guessing the above text says images from inside the stadiums are copy vio's or some such as decided by fifa. Given the entire yellow boxed warning at FIFA World Cup Germany 2006 matches is in German on the page but not in English how are non German speaking uploaders supposed to know any different? Adding the warning in English would help - otherwise more images are likely to be uploaded by others who don't know what the yellow box says. SFC9394 13:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the box in English and hope it's understandable. --Stefan 15:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That’s fine, thanks. It is a bit annoying that fifa have made that decision, as the commons is going to miss out on some good pictures! SFC9394 16:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder what the base for that restriction is. It surely is no legal restriction, probably only an agreemend you agreed to by buying the ticket. What are our rules for similar stuff like the Olympics, etc. ? -- Gorgo 17:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would speculate that it is to protect the revenue streams of their accredited photographers (who I imagine pay to get that accreditation, i.e. the process is a revenue stream for fifa). If anyone in the crowd could take photos and use them commercially then with the quality (and frequency) of cameras today sports publications could just use free photos, (garnered from somewhere like here) rather than paying royalties to official photographers. I guess it is in much the same way that photographs are banned from being taken at other types of "performances". I would agree with some of the other points being made here that it is the photographer who has breached their rules by uploading under CC, and nothing to do with us. However, ignorance of what CC actually means is rife on flickr (I have seen plenty of clearly copyrighted things posted on flickr as CC material). SFC9394 20:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Legal base for their claims is the Hausrecht which naturally only affects people actually entering the stadium. Legal base for performances is Leistungsschutz (I don't know the US parallel), often copyright of the performed play etc. That's entirely different. A soccer game is not a performance. --Rtc 20:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep There is no copyright violation. The photographer has broken the FIFA rules and might be held responsible for anybody using this picture commercially, but that's solely his problem, neither Commons' nor the problem of those using the picture. --Rtc 19:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why should the Photographer be responsible if someone uses his picture for commercial uses? AFAIK weapon manufactures are not liable for killings with their products. Correct me if I'm wrong. --213.254.52.171 19:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since he permitted it in violation to an (unilateral?) contract witht he FIFA! 1) Nobody except the photographer can be responsible since there is no legal basis for such a responsibility. 2) The photographer is responsible based on civil law: A condition for entering the stadium is not to use his pictures commercially (and not to grant a license for such use). If the photographer violates this condition, he is legally responsible for the effects of this violation (he broke the (unilateral?) contract which permitted him entering the stadium in the first place) – which includes responsibility for other people using this photo commercially, since they can only do so legally because of his permission! 3) Killing concerns criminal law. You can't compare that. IANAL --Rtc 19:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is no licence for an exclusive (or noncommercial) use on Wikipedia? I'm not familiar with this stuff. Anyway, what about that? --213.254.52.171 20:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
1) Commons is accepting only free licenses, which means the picture may be arbitrarily commercially exploited and modified, and used in any medium by anyone! Digital publication is not enough. 2) accordingly, "only for wikipedia" is not enough. Noncommercial is not enough either. Wikipedia actively exploited commercially (some wikipedias permit some nonconflicting fair use pictures, but that's entirely unrelated to the problem discussed here) --Rtc 20:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This reminds me of the quarrels I sometimes have when I bring my camera to football matches (see my gallery). Some stupid security guard will say that photographing is not allowed inside the stadium, and I always reply that I did not agree to such an “agreement” when I bought the ticket. In Norway, restrictions like the FIFA rules can not be applied. Are there similar rules in Germany? Kjetil_r 21:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • keep There is no violation of intellectual property --Historiograf 02:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep I have taken photos at a tennis tournament where they say the same thing, and others have similar cases too. All modern venues have that restriction. It's about the terms of the ticket, not the copyright. The photographer might have broken the terms and conditions of entry (in which case, the venue is free to throw them out), but NOT copyright. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete No Panoramafreiheit in this case (inside of private area). Shaqspeare 19:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: Panoramafreiheit is not relevant here, which it only becomes as soon as copyrighted works are on the picture. Commonly, this refers to architecture, such as the stadium. But the stadium architecture is not visible on the picture! --Rtc 15:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep per pfctdayelise Jaranda wat's sup 03:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep no copyright violation, no artwork, architecture or something else. --Raymond de 05:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep copyright has obviously nothing to do with that; the only problem is the author's violation of a completely different contract; and that is IMHO none of Commons' business, it's the photographer's problem. --Mormegil 13:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: Since this all seems to be leaning to a keep, your comments raise an interesting situation - what happens with other flickr'ed CC photos? Should more just be uploaded on the basis that it is fine (which I agree legally it is, for us) - but that may have the knock on effect of possibly getting the photographer into trouble. Should we have a moral compass on this one, or just say "they uploaded them to flickr originally, so any ramifications of that is their problem"? I ask this before I bother uploading anymore! SFC9394 22:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Flickr people generally don't care a lot about copyright. They might take a screenshot and just call it "CC-BY" like all their other photos. Of course we know that's not true. So when transferring images you do have to be a bit smart and evaluate yourself if they are right. We can't just blindly say, "They said it was CC-BY so if it's wrong, it's their fault, not ours" and claim no responsibility. If they break copyright law, we can't take their photos. If they break other laws to take photos (like this, or say, trespass), IMO we can use the photos, the legal problem is the photographers'. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yeah I was specifically relating to this case (as working on the flickrlickr project I have to bin many that are clearly copyright), if, for example, someone was uploading loads of World Cup photo's onto flickr and we were copying them here, then I didn't know whether it would be something we should let the flicker user know that they were breaching fifa conditions - or just let them continue to upload so we can harvest them for here. It is a difficult one, but probably depends on how much fifa care about the whole situation, i.e. will they even bother at all, give the photographer a slap on the wrists, or slap them with a court writ for breaching their terms. SFC9394 10:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think I even understood from someone on Flickr talking with Eloquence that it is not even possible on Flickr to license part of your photographs and not others. If so those errors are not really the uploader's fault, but at least part Flickr's. - Andre Engels 20:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep copyright law is not relevant here. Maybe the author will become some trouble with the FIFA but that's not the problem of wikimedia commons.--Wiggum 12:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As others have pointed out, restrictions on photography cannot generally be enforced via copyright laws. It may have been illegal to take the photograph, but once it's taken, that doesn't itself make it illegal to republish it. --Delirium 20:43, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
well it was never illegal, but a violation of a contract, that's totally different. But still I wonder if we should exploit and/or encourage this, I mean that could probably lead to a huge fine for author. -- Gorgo 01:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
kept--Shizhao 14:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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According to the UK Office of Public Sector Information (here, point 11), this image may not be used except in limited circumstances. The copyright page of this image on Wikipedia also states that this is not a free-use image and has extensive fair use rationale as well. Furthermore, the standard-issue Crown Copyright on government pages (here, for example) always says "other than the Royal Arms" when discussing reproduction rights. Unless I'm missing a point somewhere, this is not a free-use image. --tomf688 (talk - email) 14:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Erm. I understood that this image is an own-creation of a Wikimedia - it was uploaded as PD in 2003, but then was changed to FairUse without any discussion last year. Certainly, it doesn't look like any of the official renderings I've seen. In that case, it would be whatever licence it was uploaded under.
Renderings of Coats of Arms are subject to copyright, but the design itself (the blazon) is exempt. UK law always treats the items differently, hence th e waivers on, because to use Arms in some contexts (commercial, representational, etc.) is illegal - but not (necessarily) a copyright violation.
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  Delete Deprecated license tag, no source. At en: it was uploaded with no source nor license, see the history Sanbec 13:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 09:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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See Commons_talk:Licensing#Have_I_stumbled_upon_freedom_of_panorama_in_Slovak_law? ~~helix84 17:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was I who suggested the image to be nominated for deletion because it is a poster that is not a permanent exhibition. Any comments? / Fred Chess 10:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! 23:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The assertion that all works of the Government of Singapore are PD is incorrect. See [23] William Avery 12:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The assertion that all works of the Government of Singapore are PD is incorrect. See [24] William Avery 12:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I read the law and it really seems that Singapore goverment works are not generally in the PD. Therefore the images were deleted. --ALE! 16:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I guess it's copyvio, because it look's like an official photograph of Ian Somerhalder and it's size is typical small for images on websites. --Lyzzy 20:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please go and ask the author: en:User:Jayc2262, see [25]. I have only copied it identically from english Wikipedia. --Highpriority 20:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It should have been tagged as {{Nsd}}, as the uploader at en.wp does not specify a source. User:Highpriority, you should not move images like this one to Commons until you have asked the original uploader. You can not assume that the uploader at en.wp is the author, especially not when you move images from the wikipedia with a notoriously high rate of copyvios. Kjetil_r 07:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Bad name. --Dreamrail Arrus 13:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment Could you please specify correct file name? Please use {{Duplicate}} for such requests if future. --EugeneZelenko 14:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 15:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I think (but am not 100% sure) that the pokeball on itself is also a trademark. IIVQ 19:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete Shaqspeare 11:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
deleted--Shizhao 13:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It is redundant and no longer used by any project. --Ultratomio 16:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 23:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This has been tagged unknown since 3 March 2006 with the uploader notified. It is used at so many Wiki sites. I am unsure whether this is exempt from copyright protection pursuant to South Korean Copyright Act.--Jusjih 02:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The May 24 version is licensed from Vector-Images.com, but two users do not accept that version. Thuresson 09:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Vector-Images.com version could be used with template {{Vector-images}}. Why do we not delete the other versions without clear licenses? --ALE! 13:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Essjay, however I do not understand, why the Vector-Images.com version was not kept. --ALE! 09:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Undeleted, May 24 version kept. Thuresson 02:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Part of the Bettmann Archive (http://pro.corbis.com/popup/Enlargement.aspx?mediauids={0e2a4adf-60e2-4041-9a99- ). However, it could be, that the image is in the public domain by now. Has anyone some specific information? --ALE! 08:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That URL doesn't work. I have not succeeded in constructing a direct URL to any of their images. To see them, go to http://pro.corbis.com/ and search for "hindenburg". They have three similar images:
  • BE082014: only copyright statement reads "Bettman/CORBIS",
  • BE043569: copyright statement reads Baldwin H. Ward & Kathryn C. Ward/CORBIS
  • HU002444: copyright statement reads Hulton-Deutsch Collection/CORBIS
The first or second one would be our (and the Allstar project's and the Centennial of Flight's) image. The photographer apparently was Sam Shere. There's another version of completely unknown provenance; it was shot from a different perspective than any of the Corbis images. Note that we do have a PD image of the incident. Other possible replacements might be the photograph by Arthur Cofod Jr.; USAF 12293 AC, or to ask the Navy Lakehurst Historical Society about their images; one of their images is credited here as an "official Navy photograph". (Corbis has a similar but not quite identical image under ID PG12082.) Lupo 10:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Found a brief bio blurb on Sam Shere (1901 - 1985). Note that Shere was only one of about 14 photographers (another source claims 22) present at the incident on May 6, 1937. Lupo 10:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The photographer Sam Shere died in 1985 (http://photography.about.com/b/a/182694.htm ). Therefore the issue seems clear to me. delete --ALE! 10:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Essjay --ALE! 09:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It is redundant and no longer used by any project. --Ultratomio 08:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Sanbec --ALE! 13:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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was deleted in de because it lacks a reason why it is GFDL [26] --Matt314 14:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader agrees. Sanbec 09:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Near duplicate of Image:Widelands-12-06.2006.jpg, only worse in quality. -Samulili 13:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I would like some help with putting in the right information to the latter image: The game has GPLed license, can the screenshot have a GFDL license? Who should be attributed for creating the image files? Date? -Samulili 13:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • For screenshots of freely licensed software, put {{free screenshot|license=GPL}} {{GPL}} (or LGPL, or whatever). Never put GFDL (or any other specific license) unless the copyright holder says so! I guess put the date the screenshot was made. It's important to link to somewhere on a website that says what license the software is under. Attribute to the game creators, and if you want, say "screenshot by X". pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have to say sorry, this was my fault. I am new here and uploaded the wrong image. And while I couldn't overwrite it and couldn't delete the file, I uploaded the right one afterwards. So of course you can delete it and PLEASE delete it. And please forgive me :-) -Nasenbaer_peter 21:24, 24 June 2006 (GMT+1)

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Werenskiold died in 1938 (not in 1936 as stated in the description), his drawings are not in the public domain yet. -- Kjetil_r 17:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted --Kjetil_r 23:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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See previous four source and so. But is this a {{Logo}}? Samulili 13:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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The image description does not say who painted this image, therefore I don't see any reason for PD. --Tolanor 20:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, no source info was given in the deleted image on German wikipedia. --::Slomox:: >< 12:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Valid license unverifiable --Pjacobi 08:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Flickr account holder seems rather upset [27] and has all her content marked private now. She now requires per-use permission. And it is unclear, whether the originally given license by her was valid, as she wasn't the photographer. --Pjacobi 08:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hm... well we have {{Flickr-change-of-license}}, but I am not totally convinced it is a great solution anyway. She can't legally revoke a license, and you can't require notification with any CC license anyway! But we could be nice and respect her request anyway. I can't find any other free decent images of a tankini so far... pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think, the author posted her pictures in Flickr, she was not aware what CC license is. It is also possible that she did not know that it is a searchable database. Later, she was shocked that people are freely using it. Legally speaking, she has no way to revoke her license. But, I think ethically, that it would be nice if we respect her feelings, and delete the picture - even if we could not find an alternative picture. And Wikimedia Commons is a public base, and my opinion does not matter alone, I submit this to cosideration by others. - User:Sechzen
  • Delete. I cannot see a model release ("Recht am eigenen Bild") too. And yes, we have a lot of other images without model release. --Raymond de 05:41, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually, as far as I understand the situation, the Flickr account holder is the model. So, the "license" originally given (and now repented) is the model's statement, not the photographer's. So it may never have been valid. --Pjacobi 07:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Seems in poor taste to keep it if it wasn't really intended to be public, and not such a one-of-a-kind irreplaceable image to be worth fighting over. --Delirium 11:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I noticed the disapperance on Flickr, but also noticed at that time, that she excatly knew, whats the licensing means. She has also managed to shut down account of 4 peoples at that, who have used pictures without metting the licensing conditions. Would like to suggest, that someone of the pro-deleters asks her at advance on [Flickr (free registration required)] -- Test-tools 08:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done that. She strongly prefers to have her photo removed: Take it down please. --Pjacobi 08:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have just replaced that Image with a new one from someone else, this debatte can be closed now. -- Test-tools 07:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)   Info Finally got the permission for the preferred image. The top of a Tankini has to go down to about navel region, the intermediate version was too short. Now we have a correct image.   Keep -- Test-tools 12:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved, nice team work everyone :) pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON : There is a cleaned version of this picture and that was uploaded earlier : Image:British_Battlecruiser_HMS_Hood_explosion.jpg -- Sting 15:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 09:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON : There is a cleaned version of this picture and that was uploaded earlier : Image:British_Battlecruiser_HMS_Hood_sinking.jpg -- Sting 15:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 09:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Dalí died in 1989, his works are not in the public domain -- Kjetil_r 17:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 14:15, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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a) May be copyright violations. They are uploaded as own work but some have "Spielmannszug & Jugendblasorchester Rödemis e.V." as the author (more likely as the copyright owner). They all come from http://www.roedemis.de/
b) They are, in my opinion, too small to be useful. If the person who uploaded these small pictures were able to upload bigger versions, both a) and b) would no more be a problem, I think. Samulili 13:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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See en:Image:Royal-Australian-Navy-Ensign.svg, an identical image has been marked there as Crown Copyright protected and fair-use only (the page is an orphan now, all uses have been changed to the Commons' version). Is the flag really free, or should it be deleted? Any lawyer? (Note I do not really think this image should be deleted, but I am not a lawyer.) --Mormegil 13:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I *very* much doubt that flags can be claimed to be fair-use in any sense of the world. Else, we'll have to delete *all* the state flags, since those should technically only be used by government institutions -- all that can't mean that we aren't allowed to depict them to represent the state or its instutitions. I say keep. —Nightstallion (?) 14:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
strong keep - we care for copyright only, and there is no copyright concern over this file. Any other restrictions (trademarks, legal restictions for ensigns or Coat of Arms and the like) depend on the actual use, and are of no concern for us here. --h-stt !? 07:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note that according to the page there are copyright concerns here, as the page asserts the image is Crown Copyright protected. (I repeat I do not believe that, too, but, you know, IANAL, I just wanted to clear this out.) --Mormegil 09:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As this flag design is older than 1956 (1904 by the australien parliament, confirmed by Queen Elisabeth II in 1954), Crown Copyright has expired by now. I'm not even convinced, that the flag has even been protected by Crown Copyright, but if so, by now it has expired. --h-stt !? 22:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is quite correct to say that any Crown copyright protection over this flag has expired in Australia. As in the UK the term for Crown copyright protection in Australia is 50 years from publication. The flag was definitely published in the 1953 act which was more than 50 years ago. Images of the flag have certainly been published in the United States earlier than 1923 and so it would be out of copyright in the United States as well. David Newton 12:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Curve Ball to discussion-

This White ensign was designed in 1948 and officially appointed for use in 1967. Prior to 1948 the RAN used the Royal Navy(UK) White Ensign, Merchant Ships used the Red Ensign(Aust).

Image:Ensign of the Royal Australian Air Force.svg this one also on commons wasnt designed until 1967 and wasnt officially appointed until 1982. Neither flag would have been published in the original 1953 act as neither was officially recognised or use at that stage. The act would now include both but that would have been the result of ammendments to the act in 1966/67 and 1981/82 Gnangarra 13:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

source was en.wikipedia article Flags of Australia Gnangarra 13:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On the white ensign being designed in 1948 it is correct that the Australian version of the white ensign is considerably newer than the Australian blue and red ensigns. That could be a problem. However the basic design of the flag is certainly out of unprotected and there is question mark over whether the change of colouring that produced the white ensign is enough to produce a fresh copyright. I don't know whether that's the case and given the minefield that is international copyright law I wouldn't want to guess. However it is out of copyright in Australia, that much is certain. The US might be another kettle of fish. David Newton 13:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If we follow the Compendium of Office Practices II, sec. 503.02(a) of the U.S. Copyright Office, a mere change in coloration is not sufficient in the U.S. to result in a new copyright. I believe the red and blue flags are not copyrighted in the U.S. per Compendium II, section 206.01, as they have been defined in the Australian Flag Act, and hence the white ensign wouldn't be either. I suggest to keep this. Lupo 18:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If it is kept, what license template would be applicable? / Fred Chess 10:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about a combination of {{PD-Australia}} (covers the std blue flag), {{PD-ineligible}} (for the coloration change), and {{Insignia}} (for the usage warning)? The GFDL claim by the uploader is nice, but doesn't hold up if we follow the reasoning that a change in coloration doews not warrant a new copyright. Lupo 12:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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No source, likely copyvio see the image talk page. Delete Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 03:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


tagged with no source, handled elsewhere --ALE! 14:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON There is no source given for the image. The image has a description saying it is a modified (contrast, brightness) version of another image. The image it references (Image:01-Bush.png) has never existed on the Commons. It does exist on en.wp, though: en:Image:01-Bush.png. But it's tagged as a fair use screenshot there. It was never tagged as {{PD-USGov-POTUS}} as this image is here. Based on this, and with no public domain source cited to the contrary, I believe this image is not in the public domain. Johntex 00:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This image is not an accurate representation of astigmatism. It was removed from the Wikipedia article (English version) for this reason. See the discussion at Talk:Astigmatism#Image --Srleffler 04:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Tagged with {{Logo}}, but AFAIK that's classical "freedom of panorama/public space" case.

  • Keep A.J. 10:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep, the logo apears incomplete. LadyofHats 12:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep It's on a public space. Platonides 20:06, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep, as far as it is taken from public ground. Shaqspeare 19:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep all users above are writing absolute nonsense: The picture is very restricted according to trademark law. Trademark law does not have any public space exceptions as copyright has. (The contrary is the case, the more publicly and the more well known the logo is, the higher its protection.) According to the effective permission, the picture is not 'free' since there are restrictions by trademark law that permit the logo being used only in a quotation-like context. But commons should only be concerned about copyright, and this logo is not protected by copyright since it's ineligible for copyright. As Historiograf mentioned correctly, this is logo paranoia. --Rtc 20:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • To Rtc and Historiograf: Well I'm glad you two are so 100% certain about the law! Why don't you do the rest of us a favour and write a page explaining it all clearly so we can use it as a guide? It would actually be, you know, helpful, instead of insulting us as idiots every time we try to understand! pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      •   Keep It is peculair but I must agree with Rtc! This sign is probably protected by trademark laws -- which means you can not sell it by itself to make money (except if you create a parody 1 ). But the photo is not copyright protected, so lets use it. / Fred Chess 12:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep [Café] [Album] 05:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 15:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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"All rights reserved" is not the same as GFDL. Photographer's page at http://www.railwaymedia.fotopic.net/ doesn't mention GFDL, but merely says "Most of these images are available for use." --bjh21 12:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The source page[28] for this image says

Here is a picture of the interior of a Georgie Pie restaurant that I swiped from someone's website a couple of years ago. Should give that guy his props, but I can't find the page anymore.

I don't think that's evidence of the picture's being licensed under the GNU GPL, or at all. --bjh21 14:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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The photo also shows the logo of the ministry. The ministry advices everyone to get an authorisation before showing the ministry's logo. They are about to start a lawsuit against "Grüne Jugend" after "Grüne Jugend" showed their logo without authorisation: http://www.gruene-jugend.de/ulla-schmidt. But if you need a authorisation before you can show the photo, this doesn't compare with GNU-FDL. --81.173.238.229 07:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Silly Logo-Paranoia. It has been said often and often but admins do not understand that GNU FDL is concerned only with the copyright. Es wäre das beste, diesen Schmalspur-Admins das Handwerk zu legen, wenn sie einfache Sachverhalte nicht kapieren. --Historiograf 00:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you change language, when making aggressive comments? I think the solution found here is very reasonable. So an objective comment would have been sufficient too. --::Slomox:: >< 12:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If I am offending in my own language I am sure what I am doing ... ;-) --Historiograf 23:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But it's less effective, when the recipient doesn't understand it ;-) --::Slomox:: >< 11:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, issue resolved, pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is photo from my family album. My grandma told me she wears Kurp dress, so I put it in article about pl:Wikipedia:Kurpie. I looked at other Kurp folk clothes in Internet and realised that my gradma wears very simple dress which is not very characteristic to Kurp culture... So the reason for deletion is:

  • very little possible encyclopedic/ilustration uses,
  • poor quality of the photo.

A.J. 14:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't aggre with that. It's rare. Photo is 55 years old, but... try to find Kurp's dress photo distributed on free licence (afterall quality is 'accepted' for me). Image is useful, should't we ilustrate cultures' elements of tradidion? Grzegorz Dąbrowski 16:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC).
    • I'll try to get experts opinion from Kurp Association. If that is really Kurp dress, even common clothes, not holiday ones, I'll be happy to change my opinion. A.J. 14:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep.
    • Commons is not for encyclopedic uses.
    • Quality is not so bad. You haven't seen really bad old photos. This is -well- only old.
Platonides 20:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep -- it's a lovely photo. Do try to find out more about it, please! -- Ranveig 17:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept--Shizhao 11:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON No source --Nv8200p 15:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use {{subst:nsd}} Platonides 20:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See this discussion for the source information of this user's license plate photos: [29] --ChrisRuvolo (t) 04:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept --ALE! 15:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Superseded by Image:Geneva font.svg and by Image:Geneva sample.svg. According to checkusage, this isn't used anywhere. --bdesham 05:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I uploaded the wrong copy, readded as Image:En-us-cellar door.ogg which is better. - TheDaveRoss 08:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 11:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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depicts a irrelevant music group, the corresponding article was deleted today by me ([30]). --Uwe Gille 10:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise --ALE! 21:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no source information, probably copyvio. Longbow4u 16:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use {{subst:nld}}, please don't list here Sanbec 08:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

will be handled elsewhere --ALE! 11:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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A IP at the german description page of this image: Would you please delete this file? It's copyrighted by Fanpro, a german Pen&Paper company, and they are very rude when finding something like this. This could become very expensive... :-( --80.171.178.218 19:39, 14. Jun 2006 (CEST)

You can see the logo at this book. --ElRaki 01:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I admit I may have been too much optimistic. I made this image myself, but as it is a copy, I am not the copyright owner, so the license should be fair use which is not the policy of Commons.
OK for deletion.
(However, I'm not afraid of the cost as it is fair use.)
Cdang 07:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted (copyrighted, fair use image) --ALE! 07:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Lizenz stimmt nicht, auch in der SU gilt Urheberrecht Marcela 19:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep The licence is disputed, but still accepted. Was first published in USSR previous to 1973. Shaqspeare 19:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Borderline case. The image may or may not copyrighted. Photographer Yevgeny Khaldei died only in 1997. If he was the coypright holder, the image is today copyrighted (even in Russia) until 70 years p.m.a., and we'd have to delete it. However, Khaldei worked for TASS, the state news agency. If TASS as a legal entity was the copyright holder, the image was under a perpetual copyright according to the old Soviet copyright law; that perpetual term was reduced in 1993 retroactively to "50 years since publication". That reduced term expired in 1995, and the image was thus not subject to the term extension to 70 years since publication of July 28, 2004. Thus, I think that if TASS was the copyright holder, the image indeed would be in the public domain in Russia since 1995; and by virtue of the TRIPS regulations also PD in the U.S. because it (just barely) wasn't copyrighted anymore on January 1, 1996 and thus its copyright in the U.S. was not restored. I have no idea what the copyright status of that image in the EU might be. Please note that I have no idea whether TASS indeed was the copyright holder. Furthermore, note that one can find the image credited to Getty Images BBC.UK. The BBC credits a similar image (probably also by a Russian photographer) to AP [31]. Corbis also has the image as YK004440 and YK001354 (search for "reichstag flag"), with the mention "© Yevgeny Khaldei/CORBIS". RIA Novosti, the former "Sovinformburo", also claims copyright [32][33] over a version of it (Khaldei took several shots, and the image exists in several modified versions). In summary: if Khaldei was the copyright holder, the image is copyrighted for sure; if he wasn't, the coypright status is uncertain. Rights are managed by AP, CORBIS and other professional photography providers, and a Russian news agency also claims copyright. Hence delete. Lupo 09:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep. It was published in the Soviet Union before 1973 so it is in public domain. Period. Also, what about Image:Reichstag flag.jpg, should we delete it too, a featured picture on en wiki? DDima 21:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep per DDima. It was definitely published in the USSR prior to 1973. Besides, the USSR must have thrown this and similar images after anyone that asked for them to glorify itself. Valentinian (talk) 22:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep Jon Harald Søby 10:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete Lupo's arguments are convincing. He has shown several times that our pre-1973 myth is wishful thinking sine fundamento in re --Historiograf 22:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep. VanHelsing.16 15:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, it is extremely funny to delete Soviet-PU images when discussion is not over and nothing is decided yet. MaxSem 16:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep It's PD-soviet. -- AM 17:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 12:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Stop.png is REDUNDANT. Please delete it A.S.A.P. Two vector editions of this sign have been made. --72.60.180.104 22:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept --ALE! 14:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Ulmus minor

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Please remove the 4 redundant images of Image:Ulmus_minor_bluete1.jpeg, Image:Ulmus_minor_bluete2.jpeg, Image:Ulmus_minor_knospen.jpeg, Image:Ulmus_minor_rinde.jpeg. They have been uploaded under correct name of Acer saccharinum. Fabelfroh 07:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please use the {{badname|image:"correctname"}} tag for that purpose. Sanbec 08:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

images are tagged with {{Badname}} and will be handled elsewhere --ALE! 11:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The press photos available at VEÖ are made available for press purposes, not unlimited use by anybody for any purpose. Thuresson 11:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can I safe the image from deletion? Thx
Please show that the photographer or copyright owner allows anybody to use the photo for any purpose. Thuresson 01:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
deleted--Shizhao 12:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The user Neto0 has been uploading images - all related with "Botafogo Futebol Clube" of Paraiba, a Brazilian soccer club - that he claims PD-self on it. In none of these images he provides any substantial information but the tag of PD-self itself. Some images were found in http://www.botafogopb.net/estadio.htm, where they are copyrighted. Others are logos of organized torcidas and photos os the team or the "torcida", and probably are not his work. He has also been uploading images at the Portuguese Wikipedia without providing the necessary information, and vandalizing articles about other soccer clubs in his State. I would vote to delete the images. Leslie 06:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted any photo also found at the official website www.botafogopb.net. I don't know for sure if the torcida logos are illegitimate. Thuresson 22:54, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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"Palestine_occupationN.jpg" by User:Just1pin

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User:Just1pin has uploded 100 photos of Israel, the West bank, and related objects and people, all named "Palestine_occupationN.jpg" where N is a number in the range 1-100. The names doe's not describe the content of the photo and are clearly NPOV. They should be renamed. Hashekemist 19:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Do you realise that to "rename" an image you have to reupload the image under the new name, copy all the info across, then delete/request deletion for the old image? Do you volunteer to do this? pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is a clear attempt of uploder to sneak his political views into here, while he knows that renaming it is not trivial as editing articles. If we will allow that then tommorow someone else will upload images of the USA flag named "flag of the big satan.jpg", etc. The images should be deleted. If the uploder wishes to share his work here he may upload his photon again with appropriate names. Hashekemist 07:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's not a very good example since we already have hundreds of copies of the American flag and could easily get a hundred more. We cannot easily get pictures from the Middle East. If we delete this images the Commons will be worse off because of it. pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • It was just an exmple, It's the principle that matters, unrelated to how easely we can get pictures from the Middle East. (which, BTW, should not be very hard, it's not on Mars). I belive that it opens the door for all kind of manipulation here and at the end Commons will be worse off because of it. Such a behavior should be discouraged. Hashekemist 11:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep But I see Hashekemists point, so if someone wants to reupload them under more neutral names and list them for deletion as duplicates, that would be fine with me. Cnyborg 23:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just today noticed the existence of {{ImageRename}}. So maybe we should tag them all this, and then whoever gets around to bothering to rename them, good for them. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • {{ImageRename}} is useful when someone has uploaded images with wrong name mistakenly, in good faith or, at most, with negligence, but thats not the case here. The user who uploaded this images named them "Palestine_occupationN.jpg" deliberately, in order to sneak his political views to Commons. I find it very unreasonable to put the burden of renaming his images upon the community. (where "renaming" is downloading, renaming, uploading, copy the image info and requsting the duplicate image for deletion, for each image). The images should be deleted to discouraged such a behavior. if the uploader wishes to share his work with us then he should give them appropriate names and reupload them. Hashekemist 08:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would still be a shame to lose these images. But it would not be proper to keep them at their current names in the long term. Keep and hope for eventual rename once somebody puts the effort in. For now,the content is important enough to keep. We should not use deletion as a punitive measure. TheGrappler 11:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep Many of these pix are excellent. Let's keep them and gradually give them more descriptive names. — Erin (talk) 12:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • There will be no end for this. Tommorow someone else could upload another 100 images with POV names, and another one will upload 200 images with POV names, and the community will have to do the cleanup. Thats very unreasonable. We should at least establish a law that from now on images uploded with POV names would be deleted immediately. Hashekemist 12:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep No copyright problem.

kept The uploader was asked to reupload the images with more descriptive and NPOV names and to tag the old versions with {{Badname}}. --ALE! 11:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There are a number of duplicates in Category:2003 UB313, namely: Image:2003 UB313 artist's impression.jpg (same as Image:2003 UB313 NASA illustration.jpg); Image:2003 UB313 near-infrared spectrum pt.PNG and Image:2003 UB313 near-infrared spectrum pt.PNG (same as Image:2003 UB313 near-infrared spectrum pt.JPG and Image:2003 UB313 opname.jpg (same as Image:2003 UB313 photos.jpg). --Vesta 20:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Image:2003 UB313 near-infrared spectrum pt.PNG and Image:2003 UB313 near-infrared spectrum pt.PNG are not same. They use different languages.
The other duplicates have been deleted. --ALE! 12:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is clearly a screenshot of (I presume Russian TV's Channel 1) broadcast of Eurovision Song Contest, which is copyrighted material. This is fair use by all means but inappropriate for Commons. --Dzordzm 03:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete --moyogo 10:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Essjay --ALE! 21:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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syntax error in name, new version Image:Centropyge loricula.jpg uploaded --Normann Z 14:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

use {{Badname}}. TZM de:T/T C 14:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted after CheckUsage. Thuresson 15:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Please delete this image - I applied the wrong century to it (jumping around too much). The image has correctly been uploaded as Image:18th century shoes mules.jpg. - PKM 18:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Please tag wrongly named images with {{Badname}} in the future, mentioning the request here is unnecessary. This page is "reserved" for more complicated requests. NielsF 18:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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and by extension the other "images" by User:Dropzink. Tbc 14:04, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. And yet it is being used: es:Archaeoceratops.   Keep any file without licensing problems that is being used (in the main namespace, no less) by any Wikimedia project. pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
also please notify the uploader. pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The image is not used anymore and I also notified the uploader (who put it himself in es:Archaeoceratops). I really insist these images are deleted: those things are completely unsuited for Commons in my opinion. Tbc 13:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also in the Spanish Wikipedia people are "overwhelmed" that this has been used in an article. Tbc 09:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete Oh my God, it's horrible! It should be deleted now! And, has it been in the article for months?
It was there for more than a month. Tbc 09:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete very bad image. I think wiki commons should not be a place to storage trash. --Dudo 09:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete I agree with Dudo and Tbc. This picture is completely unworthy of Wikimedia, and I really cannot believe someone would seriously use this on an article. Dudo said it best, above: Commons isn't a place to store trash.--Firsfron 22:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted ---ALE! 15:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I think this picture is copyrighted. this website uses the same picture. Koos ... 13:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Uploader describes image as a modification of an image uploaded by Mushroom which originated at DS Fanboy. Upon investigation, it appears that the image uploaded by Mushroom was copyrighted. --72.197.0.231 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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These three templates were created by User:Mariah-Yulia. The first tag is used as a copyright tag in two images (1 and 2) where the copyright owner clearly has conditions on the use of the images not in line with Commons:Licensing, namely that the images can only be used in article of a certain quality. The template should be deleted since it is too vague to be practical and the uploader should be asked to relicense the two photos.

The second and third templates includes the sentence "The copyright holder of this file allows anyone to use it for Wikipedia purpose". Whatever "Wikipedia purpose" is, it is probably not in line with Commons:Licensing (free use by anybody for any purpose). Not used anywhere. Thuresson 01:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete Jon Harald Søby 10:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete Grillo 15:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep Mariah-Yulia 22:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just saying "keep" is not going to help. You have to explain why you think they should be kept. As they clearly go against our licensing requirements (I would've speedy deleted them) & Thuresson has given a good argument why they must be deleted, just saying "keep" is not going to help much. You will have to relicense your images or accept that they will be deleted. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted, Thuresson 12:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I uploaded the better one, Image:Namba-Sankei-Bldg-01.jpg. --J o 15:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, Thuresson 12:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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They are copyrighted by Creative Commons. [34] states that "The Creative Commons buttons that describe a key term of our license, such as BY, NC, ND, SA, Sampling, Sampling Plus and Noncommercial Sampling Plus may only be used in the context of pointing to a Creative Commons license on the Creative Commons server that includes that license term or to otherwise describe the Creative Commons license, that includes that license term and that applies to a particular work." (this quote is licensed under cc-by-2.5) and clicking on the image takes us to the image description pages. We could use the colored ones from now. TZM de:T/T C 14:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete, since it would seem they are not "free use" images. --tomf688 (talk - email) 22:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment: see old discussion that touches on this subject [35]. The image isn't free, that's correct, but maybe we should be flexible here or ask Creative Commons for an exception to their rule. In my opinion it would be better to use the "original" icons for clarity reasons. NielsF 22:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep: Commons also has Wikimedia logos which aren't free. These are almost a similar case and I think we're using them in the right context. They should just have a license "This is not free" and we should add an exception to the policy. -Samulili 06:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • That would be a major policy change... it would be possible, but I would raise it on foundation-l mailing list first. Well if the Commons community seemed to support it first, maybe. Or maybe that doesn't matter (most Commons community didn't support hosting WM logos :)) pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • And we have Wikimedia's permission to use their logos. Sure, they're incompatible with COM:L, however, we don't have CC's permission to use their icons (not even on Commons itself, I don't want to talk about third parties ...) TZM de:T/T C 14:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's not quite true. We do have permission to use them, but we are not quite fulfilling the conditions. The conditions are that the image should link to the equivalent license on the CC website. Instead, the image links to our image page. You are right that we especially don't have CC's permission to extend the use to others. The result last time seemed to be keep based on utility rather than accurate copyright status. pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment The images should be deleted, and kept on another Wikimedia server. The CC templates should include those exteral images using CSS. Jon Harald Søby 16:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep TYhe originators of the Creative Commons license are certainly well aware by now of our use of the logo and the software limitations that prevent us from linking the image to the license. There are not a lot of exceptions to our rules— but in some certain cases, the usefulness of an item so outweighs any risk of liability that deletion is foolhardy. This is one of those situations. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 11:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Their terms do not say that the image must link to the Creative Commons website, only that they must be used in the context of doing so. Even if you read it as the image must link to the term or license that can be accomplished as JHS says or by using a CSS hack like w:en:Template:click and w:en:Template:Titled-click (but that still has the caveat that the images are not free). Kotepho 18:38, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep - Quistnix 20:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC) - they are on commons just for the purpose they were intended for. Deleting them is like deleting your rubber stamp to mark your paperwork because the only place where the marking is legal is on your paperwork.[reply]

kept--Shizhao 13:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is composite image, the addition of the McDonalds sign to the original image is unreasonable as it attributes responsibility for the rubbish to them, but when examining the rubbish there are no readily identifiable McDonalds products. Other Multinational corporations are visable in the rubbish, that sign for one of them would be a fairer statement. If the McDonalds Corporation takes exception to the image, commons would be exposed to any potential legal actions Gnangarra 08:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

McDonalds is in the US, Commons is hosted in the US, author is in Mexico which is the easier target with potentially bigger pockets to empty. Also the aim would be to have it removed from circulation, targeting the author wouldn't necessarily achieve this. Gnangarra 08:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am a photographer and an artist (even though some may not think so!), and this is a graphic creation. The corporation at hand does not take into account my opinion when it comes to polluting my view of public spaces with their signs, some of which I personally find offensive, so I just take what is publicly available and offensive to me, I mix it up with whatever lanscape I choose. I am free to use visual material in public view. What, are you willing to let your fear dictate what an artist can do or not? Self imposed censorship based on fear? Come on! --Tomascastelazo 05:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Commons:Project scope in particular Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted. Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos, self created artwork without educational purpose and such. As you say the image is a self created artwork, it miss uses a corporate logo and shouldn't be on Commons. Gnangarra 05:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete. Commons is not the place for personal artwork. This is about relevance, not about human rights. Jastrow 18:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • So then every drawing is subject to censorship and deletion... they are not literal representations of reality. Where do you draw the line? Environmental issues are relevant, in my opinion... Exageration is a valid technique... --Tomascastelazo 22:26, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No its not censorship if there was obvious McDonalds rubbish in the image I wouldn't be nominating it. Enviromental issues are relevant.. What you call exageration can also be called defomation<sp>.. With this image there is no defensive arguement for the use of McDonalds name and logo either for your self or more importantly Wikimedia. Gnangarra 13:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • My friend... I do have an argument to use such image... I used it, didn´t I?? Therefore I do have an argument. It is there... It is simply a collage of two images in public view... I am free to mix such elements together, the meaning attributed to such image is the sole responsibility of the observer. Me afraid? I just want to see this corporation bringing a lawsuit trying to censor art (even though you may not consider this art, fortunately for me, I have the curriculum!!) It may be the best thing for me!!! Besides, so you know, this is not a personal attack against this corporation.... it is simply a statement of our consumer society... and it obviously rattled your cage... Maybe it works... --Tomascastelazo 14:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll repeat Please read Commons:Project scope in particular Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted. Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos, self created artwork without educational purpose and such. As you say the image is a self created artwork, it miss uses a corporate logo and shouldn't be on Commons. You also say that a lawsuit may be the best thing for you, Commons is not here for self promotional purposes suggest that you put the image in Flickr instead. Gnangarra 12:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • Ok, I read, as per your suggestion, Commons Project Scope, which I quote: Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted. Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos, self created artwork without educational purpose and such. There are plenty of other projects in the internet you can use for such a purpose like Flickr and others. However it is allowed uploading in small quantity images of yourself and others as long they are useful for some Wikimedia project (for example an Wikipedia article, a Wikinews report, in a meta article, on a user-page).
    • I believe that this image meets the criteria in bold italics.... When it comes to self created work, every single drawing, with no exception, is then subject to deletion according to your criteria. Every single drawing meets the criteria of self created artwork. The difference of opinions between you and I, is what comes after that statement, the educational purpose... I say it has an educational purpose, you say it doesn´t... You are afraid of legal action, I am not... don´t worry, they wont bother... Juvenal asked "And who watches over the guards?" Censorship, from whatever corner springs from, even from good intentions, is an ugly recourse....
    • The fact is that, I believe, that you just don´t like the image, personally I am OK with that, you have that right. It is also possible that you may be acting upon a real concern about Commons, that is OK too, you have that right. But I also have a right to express my concerns about the planet and this is a way for me to do it. Whatever the source of your intentions, it comes to me as an attempt to censor the image. I think that it is better to worry about what to do and to create an environmental conscience than to worry about what a certain corporation may do or not do. The funny thing is that I agree with you in one level... it IS an ugly image... Be bold my friend... Do not be stopped by fear. --Tomascastelazo 14:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep What a ridiculous request. We delete pictures out of copyright reasons. We're not here to protect the corporate image of McDonalds or any other company. --Fb78 20:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This isnt about protecting corporate images, Tomascastelazo has create an artwork that visually and by title attributes the cause to a particluar corporation where there is no evidence that the corporation has either a direct or indirect responsibility for the rubbish. As I pointed out if Tomascastelazo could had used the sign of other companies which are clearly visable in the image then this would not be an issue. Gnangarra 06:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete -- sorry Tomascastelazo. These kinds of images have been nominated before, for example a peculiar Bush/Hitler composition (made me laugh for sure, but that's not the point). If an image can't be used on an article or is directly related to a user page (such as a photo of the user) then it is better to delete the image, as it is not beneficial to encourage such personally flavoured creations. This is for now only one image, but if we allow one, then others would take example. It would violate such basic Wikipedia policies as NPOV and No Original Research. / Fred Chess 23:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep This image was created with the intention of raising awareness about pollution, the environment, etc. The elements of the image were taken from public places. The problem with trash is that companies, including the one depicted, often use packaging that ends up in places like the one depicted in the image and take no responsibility beyond their doors, yet the common citizen has to pay to clean up trash generated by others. I am sure that there are a lot of environmentalists that will absolutely love this image, and opportunity must be given to them to have access to it. Isn´t that the spirit of Wikipedia?? Any attemp to deny them such opportunity is simply called censorship. The fact that some people find it objectionable is only a matter of personal preference and in no way diminishes the value that it may have for others. The risk of a free society is that we may have to live with things we dislike. The other option is to live with things we absolutely dislike.

For everyone´s enlightment, I reproduce several definitions of censorship...

  • Censorship is the systematic use of group power to broadly control freedom of speech and expression, largely in regard to secretive matters. Sanitization (cleaning or decontamination) and whitewashing (from whitewash) are almost interchangeable terms that refer to particular acts or campaigns of censorship or omission which seek to "clean up" the portrayal of particular issues and facts which are already known, but which may conflict with a presented point of view.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

  • The act of hiding, removing, altering or destroying copies of art or writing so that general public access to it is partially or completely limited.
  • The practice of suppressing a text or part of a text that is considered objectionable according to certain standards.
  • Action taken to prevent others from having access to a book or information; a public objection to words, subjects and/or information in books, films, and other media with the idea of depriving others from reading or viewing them.
  • the means of keeping unpleasant (or unsociable) desires out of consciousness. Censorship is circumvented through dreams, parapraxes (or "slips of the tongue"), word association, and figures of speech.
  • Decisive acts of forbidding or preventing publication or distribution of media products, or parts of those products, by those with the power, either economic or legislative, to do so.
  • something that is meant to prevent free expression

Now.... I promise I will write an article in which that particular image will be a valuable asset. So, that in essence meets ther requirement.

And again... who watches over the guards? --Tomascastelazo 03:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete this not about censorship, it aint about workmanship. This is purely about naming directly one corporation without any evidence of its responsability for the rubbish. In so doing it creates a potentially unacceptible risk to Wikimedia Gnangarra 06:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep Of course it is censorship. The image consists of basically two elements, trash and a sign. Both taken in public view. Nothing prevents me legally from superimposing such elements. The meaning that you attribute to the image is in your head. No place else. --Tomascastelazo 16:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK guys stop voting... it's not making a difference. When I look at this image, forgetting the "liability" question, I ask myself, "Is this useful for some Wikimedia project?" And at the moment I have to say no. To my mind, this was not uploaded to be useful to some existing project. It was uploaded to make a point. That is not behaviour we should encourage. pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find it very ironic to find censorship attempts at an encyclopaedic effort.... Times sure change.... Diderot would turn in his grave. And I still wonder about who watches over the guards... --Tomascastelazo 16:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So what happens now is this going to be deleted or kept. 4 editors say delete and 3 have said keep(including Tomascastelzo two votes) Gnangarra 14:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • First: If you read the top of the page, you will see that this page is not a poll... second, by removing the image from the page, inadvertently or not, you censored the image, whatever the reason (- The act of hiding, removing, altering or destroying copies of art or writing so that general public access to it is partially or completely limited.) However, I agree with you as to the page you placed it in...--Tomascastelazo 20:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - this isn't about censorship, but suitability for the project. What is this image for? What does it do? It is essentially a piece of artwork made by a Commons contributor (not a notable work of art by a notable artist - no offence intended). That isn't what Commons is here for. The political statement that the art may be trying to make is, in my opinion, irrelevant. It's just somebody's private piece of art and therefore belongs on a personal art-hosting site, not Commons. TheGrappler 13:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I refer you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collage#Digital_collage, where User:Gnangarra aptly placed it. The image is relevant. --Tomascastelazo 16:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may have placed the image there and I can remove the image from that page when necessary, but that doesnt change my original opinion or nomination for deleting. Which is attributing to one corporation responsibility visually and by name something to which it cannot clearly be associated. By adding the corporate trade mark in such an image is a breach of copyright laws, the author of the image also doesnt have the right to then release the image under GDFL,CC,GNU or PD licenses. Gnangarra 17:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted (image is an artificial creation used to make a non neutral point, out of scope of Commons) --ALE! 22:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplication of Image:Dan.jpg. I am the uploader of both. Please delete. Pixie 16:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. You can use {{Badname}} for requests like this. JeremyA 16:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Misindentified. New upload:Afbeelding:Vloeivlek lieveheersbeestje (Oenopia conglobata).jpg Rasbak 19:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I assumed you meant Image:Negentienpuntlieverheersbeestje (Anisosticta novemdecimpunctata).jpg and Image:Vloeivlek lieveheersbeestje (Oenopia conglobata).jpg and deleted the former. Use {{Badname}} next time. NielsF 20:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Misidentified. New upload: Image:Vloeivlek lieveheersbeestje kop (Oenopia conglobata).jpg Rasbak 19:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Please use {{Badname}} next time. NielsF 20:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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copyvio: [36] names as source Lehner, Complete Pyramids, p. 102 --RobertLechner 20:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Obvious copyvio. NielsF 21:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This file, which I uploaded, is a misnomer, I will upload it under a better file name. --Madden 20:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Please use {{Badname}} next time, listing it here is unnecessary. NielsF 20:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Evading the commons rules

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Were labelled as {{PD-self}} but adding "noncommercial use only!!" Nice try. --Rtc 19:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The two photos were labeled {{Noncommercial}} by you. So why do you list them here? There is no need for that. --ALE! 11:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That is not the case. The original uploader added "noncommercial use only!!". The flag Rtc added is a speedy deletion template, not a licence claim.   Delete Jastrow 18:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know. The point was, that a {{Noncommercial}} tag is sufficient to get an image deleted. There is no need for an additional deletion request. We have enough images here to discuss on. --ALE! 22:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. Sorry for this misunderstanding. Jastrow 18:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

were tagged as {{Noncommercial}} by Rtc, will be handled elsewhere. --ALE! 15:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The photographer died in 1957, and I assume that Sweden like most European countries has a copyright period of life +70. - Andre Engels 21:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to Commons:Licensing#Sweden there is a term of 50 years after creation for non-artistic photographs. This image would be pd according to that, assuming that the photograph isn't artistic enough, so   Keep. NielsF 22:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Commons:Licensing#Sweden is now believed not to be accurate. We had a discussion on the Swedish Village Pump and it appears that we had missed reading a provisional regulation in the copyright law. I've I've updated {{PD-Sweden}} to what we believe is a correct description of the law. Hence:   Keep
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That should probably be 50 years after publication, not creation. Thuresson 00:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stop repeating nonsens. The 1993 EU directive has made clear that artistic quality is'nt neccessary for the 70 years pma protection. --Historiograf 23:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish copyright law is regulated by Lag (1960:729) om upphovsrätt till litterära och konstnärliga verk and not EU directives. The law makes a clear distinction between artistic and non-artistic photographs. If this is a non-artistic photograph and it was published in 1923, it has been public domain since Jan. 1, 1949 (1923+25). Feel free to join the discussion at sv:Diskussion:Verkshöjd. Thuresson 00:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing. My guess is that "STF1923" stands for the STF yearbook from 1923. The Swedish Tourist Federation published a yearbook in 1923 about tourist attractions in Hälsingland, where Iggesund is located. Projekt Runeberg who publishes out-of-copyright literature online is planning to publish all yearsbooks between 1886 and 1935. The 1923 edition is not yet available, though. Thuresson 01:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I uploaded the image in the first place, I feel obligated to comment. Thuresson's guess that it comes from the STF year book is correct, I originally intended to scan the book for Runeberg, but soon realized that I didn't have the time to scan all 400 pages. I have however uploaded some images to the Swedish Wikipedia: [37]. I should point out that Image:Iggesunds bruk, STF1923.jpg comes from the same book. Väsk 11:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. In public domain according to Swedish legislation. -Samulili 07:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Images related to the french deleted article fr:Touchance

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  • English: This image are related the Touchance article deleted and not having any other interest.
  • Français : Ces images sont liées à l'article Touchance supprimé et n'ayant aucun autre intérêt.
  • Español: Esta imagen vinculada al artículo Touchance suprimido y que no tiene ningún otro interés.

--  Pseudomoi (to chat on WP) 13:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


All deleted--Shizhao 12:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I deleted this along with all the other images in Category:Unknown - April 2006 as lacking license information. I was contacted on IRC by a user who was concerned about the deletion; he noted in a post on my talk page that http://web.archive.org/web/20040625234856/www.eu2001.se/static/ENG/media/photo.asp includes the note "The media are free to use these pictures." I'm honestly not sure if that qualifies as a license, if it would be considered a promotional license, or what. I've undeleted the image and am leaving it here for a decision on what should be done with it. Essjay (TalkConnect) 07:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Marked as PD-self, but clearly not the work of the uploader. Are Singapore stamps PD? --JeremyA 16:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Image:Stamp-Flag-1960.jpg uploaded by the same user. JeremyA 16:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since this is the image of postage stamp, the copyright should belong to the issuing authority. Please delete it, it was wrongly marked as PD-self (it was scanned from my self-collection). Likewise for Image:Stamp-Flag-1960.jpg, please delete it. --TteckK 17:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Croatian images

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All of the above are tagged PD on the basis "all wwii sfry archive pictures are in public domain". They are not sourced, and there is no other information given in order to determine whether or not this is true. These images inspired a long conversation at en, which can be read here. I suggest that the licensing status of these images is not crystal-clear. We probably shouldn't be hosting them until the issue is sorted out. Jkelly 19:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few months ago, Template:PD-YU was deleted since the creator was unable to show that all photos from the Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia are public domain. Thuresson 11:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Images from Informationwar

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All claimed to be PD because they come from http://www.informationwar.org, which says "no rights reserved". The problem with this is, in my opinion, that it seems highly unlikely that the owners of the site own the rights to the images in the first place, so they are in no position to grant usage of them. - Andre Engels 21:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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This image was originally flagged as PD, seems to come from a surveillance camera so either the copyright is with London Transport or the British Transport Police, which means UK Crown Copyright, which means unsuitable for Commons. Also applies for:

--Doco 12:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crown copyright applies to all works produced by the British Government, subject to the condition that the qualification "Where a work is made by Her Majesty or by an officer or servant of the Crown in the course of his duties" is met. Does surveillance cameras belong to any of those categories? Thuresson 15:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note if these are crown copyright, I would like to transfer them to Wikinews: (en) as they are in use their and we can have crown copyright images. Bawolff 17:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways so if its determined that it is crown copyright, could you please contact me before deleting. Wikinews:User:Bawolff 21:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd expect that the images were created by London Underground Ltd (the first three) and either London Buses Ltd or the private operator of the relevant bus, so they're covered by normal copyright rather than Crown Copyright. Not free, either way. --bjh21 22:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. -Samulili 12:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This image comes from the U.S. terrorists deck of cards. (Compare [38]). These images may well be used under the fair use clause by the U.S. government, and not be suitable for Commons. / Fred Chess 11:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is public domain according to the Iraqi law. [39]. It is already in Template:PD-Arabic --Tarawneh 00:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do we know that the image is protected by Iraqi law and not the law of some other country? Was the image taken/published in Iraq or by an Iraqi? -Samulili 10:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 19

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Same as Image:Simeon DeWitt Twenty Townships c.1792.png, which has the correct date in its name. Nonenmac 13:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


tagged with {{Badname}}. Please use this tag in such cases and do not list them here. Thank you. --ALE! 13:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This category is unnecessary because there already is a Category:Aikidoka. 129.187.100.111 17:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have depopulated and added a {{Categoryredirect}}. I don't think any further action here is really necessary. Jkelly 15:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

now identified as Veronica fruticans --Tigerente 19:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Contributions by User:Lucifer996

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See Special:Contributions/Lucifer996, all of them are "selfmade" Penis pics, we already have anough and do not need these low quality pics with suspicious source. --Denniss 22:03, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Already deleted, pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The authorization is ambiguous, only for wikipedia?. http://www.cyber-flag.net/ shows a copyright notice, © Copyright Palac 1998-2006. Tous droits réservés. Anna 00:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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pretty much the same thing as Image:Poilspubiens.jpg I think we need only one of those JdH 09:26, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I remember someone crafted a policy so that Commons wouldn't have zillions of exhibitionist pictures of genitalia but only so many that are necessary. Since pubic_hair-jpg isn't a very a good photo, I think that one could be deleted. -Samulili 18:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's only 3 or 4 yet, and this one clearly differs from the others in what exactly it shows. If there were 10 or so, I'd agree, but providing a little bit of choice is a good thing. Furthermore it is currently used on 12 different Wikipedias. Commons is not to decide for others which picture to use. - Andre Engels 11:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep Like previous speaker. -- AM 11:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  KeepAgree with Andre, especially since it is being used. pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. Not that many pictures of women's pubic hair that this wouldn't add value. -Samulili 10:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The quality of the picture is so low that it can hardly be used. -Samulili 13:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This image is an exact duplicate of w:en:Image:Henry Paulson.jpg. This picture, from bradtrent.com, has no indication on the website that it is really GFDL. Is it?--Georgio 13:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)   DeleteNo indication of GFDL or other free license, should be deleted from en: too. --Tomia 20:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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not GFDL, copyvio--Shizhao 03:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ever seen the {{Copyvio}} template?   Delete, of course. TZM de:T/T C 12:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is unacceptable that you do not notify the uploader of this request and that you do not explain why you think these are copyright violations. Uploader claims that he/she is the photographer, please explain why this may not be true. Thuresson 12:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:江苏路基督教堂1.jpg have no copyvio--Shizhao 08:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

one deleted and one kept --ALE! 23:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 20

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User:Alexdarcy is uploading copyrighted photos of Elvis with wrong licenses. Code Binaire 00:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All uploads have been deleted because of copyvio/fairuse. NielsF 00:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Female nipple.jpg and other pictures uploaded by Tittielover

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Image:Female genitalia.png Image:Female nipple.png Image:Female torso16.png Image:Female breasts1.png Image:Female torso14.png Image:Female torso12.png Image:Nude woman3.png Image:Topless on Beach2.png Image:Topless on beach.png Image:Nude woman.png Image:Nude woman2.png Image:Nude woman on bed2.jpg Image:Nude woman on bed.jpg Image:Topless Beach.jpg Image:Female torso11.png Image:Female torso10.png Image:Female torso8.png Image:Female torso7.jpg Image:Female torso6.jpg Image:Female torso5.jpg Image:Female torso4.jpg Image:Female bodypart2.jpg Image:Female bodypart.jpg Image:Nude woman lower bodypart.jpg Image:Nude female body.jpg Image:Nude female body2.jpg Image:Female breast3.jpg Image:Female breast2.jpg Image:Female breast1.jpg Image:Female torso3.jpg Image:Female torso2.jpg Image:Female torso9.jpg Image:Topless on beach.jpg Image:Female breast.jpg Image:Female torso.jpg Image:Female nipple2.jpg Image:Female nipple.jpg

I don't think we need any of these: they are poor quality, not used anywhere, and they don't add anything to what we already know about nude women. JdH 10:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow...  Delete and block for inappropriate username? pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete all. However, I would not go so far as to block him for an inappropriate username. --ALE! 21:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete all. Poor qualitiy, nothing for an enyclopedia. --RvM 14:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete all -- the camera angles on many suggest that the subject didn't know that she was being photographed. JeremyA 23:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete all --Raymond de 20:38, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


Deleted --JeremyA 00:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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May be PD in 2009 -- EugeneZelenko 15:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 15:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Photos uploaded by User:Mateo zero

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All his uploads are holiday photos like Image:060113 141515.jpg and Image:060112 050024.jpg. Unencyclopedic. Code Binaire 01:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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superseded by Image:Venus symbol.svg

  Delete --jed 06:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

superseded by Image:Flag of Germany-1960-Olympics.svg

  Delete --jed 06:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted--Shizhao 12:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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If I understand it correctly, the writer of lyrics died was Hans Leip, who died in 1983; and the composer was Norbert Schultze, who died 2002. So I don't know what the PD-claim is based on. / Fred Chess 10:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uh-oh. Delete; it's copyrighted. The rights holder is Schott Music International. They even registered a "Notice of Intent to Enforce (NIE)" their copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office [40]. Lale Andersen, BTW, died in 1972, so her performer's rights may also be violated. Lupo 11:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an unfree image based on the source. See also this message posted by the original uploader. --Zzyzx11 16:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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superseded by Image:Allah.svg.

I was || this close to deleting the jpg but I thought that some projects might actually need a version without transparency. Other than that, I think it could be deleted. (It's not in use anywhere, by the way.) -Samulili 10:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 22:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Incomplete nomination by User:84.64.111.160 as being a copyvio ----Astrokey44 06:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Uploader still has supplied no source. Deleted as copyvio. It's a rather small pic anyway. — Erin (talk) 04:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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These images are not raster versions taken from vector-images.com. Therefore the {{Vector-images.com}} tag can not be used and the images have to be deleted. --ALE! 12:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it's my mistake. I drawed the images with inkscape, sampling the vector-images.com version. Is it possible to release my work into public domain? Thank you for your answer --Ttog 19:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've replaced the {{Vector-images.com}} tag with {{PD-self}}. Hope this is ok... --Ttog 10:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I came across this image that has a Deletion Request against it - I took a look through the previous deletion archives and can't find any mention of it however and so am listing it here to get a decision on it. I note that a similar image (Itunes.jpg) was deleted back at the start of the year. (note I'm not registered here but can be found as user R2b2 on Wikinews & Wikipedia) 202.49.97.7 00:30, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that their is a version of this image under the same name at wikinews that is identical as it looks like a copy-vio to me here. Bawolff 01:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted --JeremyA 02:45, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This Picture shows something that's totally forbidden. It should be deleted, before some people start such actions. --88.134.156.213 10:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC) (de: Das Wegziehen der Lenksäule vom Patienten ist nicht gestattet, da dies ein sehr hohes Gefahrenpotential birgt. Stattdessen wird das Fahrzeug aufgebockt und der Motorraum mittels Rettungszylinder nach vorne weggeklappt!)[reply]

I don't understand: what's forbidden here? - CyrilB 12:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Translation from de: "Pulling away the steering column is not allowed because this is very dangerous. Instead the vehicle is jacked up and the engine compartment is pulled to the front using a Rettungszylinder." (literally "rescue cylinder", I have no idea what that is)
But question remains: Why should we not be allowed to show something that's "forbidden" (by whom? probably this is different in other countries?) (de: Die Frage bleibt: Warum dürfen wir etwas, das "verboten" ist (von wem? möglicherweise ist das in anderen Ländern anders?) nicht zeigen?) —da Pete (ノート) 12:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I think he means the practice of rescueing penned in victims in a car crash by using the spreader is not recommended. Firemen instead should jack up the car and bend the engine compartment forward. This is more secure. Therfore the IP wishes to delete, because it could mislead people. I think it is no reason for deleting the image, but the image description should make clear, that this practice is not recommended. @88.134.156.213: it for example could be used for a wikibook "Rescueing - How to and how to not". Disclaimer: Neither am I a fireman or rescuer and I am not sure whether the IP's statement is state of the art nor am I a native English, so please sorry my possibly bad English with the technical terms I used above. --::Slomox:: >< 12:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'am the owner of this pic. Pulling away the steering column is common practice here. The pic is taken during an course for fire departmens to learn about car crashs and rescue. Its NOT forbidden in germany (Niedersachsen) and common practice for fire departemens which doesnt own a "Rettungszylinder"! Please don't delete this pic. --Magmer 13:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep On the other hand: Nobody is going to do it like in this picture, because regular fireman get certain training, other people don't own this equippment ;). This technique is uncommon in Baden-Württemberg, but i believe we can keep it. --Stefan-Xp 20:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept --ALE! 10:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Please someone: delete Category:Pachysphinx modesta. I did not know what I was doing, now the image I wanted to categorize is dealt with just ok. Sorry for the mess. -- Burkhard.Plache 14:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, in future please use {{Bad name}} I guess... you don't need to list it here. pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It's a scan of a copyrighted work entitled "Glorfindel and the Balrog" by John Howe. See for example here Maire 19:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious copyright violation, speedy deleted. A.J. 09:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This picture is tagged {{PD-old}} by mistake. I believe it cannot be tagged {{PD-art}} either, because the work of art represented is not two-dimensional: it's a detail from a bell-crater (Ancient Greek vase). Still, it's a painting. I don't know what the Commons jurisprudence is around this case, which is why I brought it here. Jastrow 17:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep If this isn't PD-old, we can give away everything we have of the ancient world. -- AM 21:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Er... PD-old is about the file itself, isn't it? Jastrow 05:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep I must agree with you. There is not be much of a creation in taking the photo, and the Greek artwork we are admiring in this image does indeed only have two dimensions. Would we see the whole vase, then things might be different. / Fred Chess 23:30, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete I agree with Jastrow. A part of a 3D object is still a 3D object, so {{PD-art}} licence can't be applied. Bibi Saint-Pol 14:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep I think that as we see only a part of it, you could see this as a bend pied of 2D painting. You don't see the vase-artistic part of the artwork, you see only the painting. And the painting is just two-dimensional, on a bend piece of stone. Effeietsanders 17:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept, tag {{PD-art}}--Shizhao 12:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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These images look like likely copyvios to me. The first one was marked as {{Promotional}} by the uploader at one point. The last one was marked for deletion by the uploader. --JeremyA 03:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Claims "copyright expired", but the obvious Herouard seems to be widely claimed to have been working in 1952[43][44], and one claims he died in 1961[45], which is well under 70 years ago. --bjh21 18:22, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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copyvio --Shizhao 16:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted, reason: derivative work --ALE! 16:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I dont believe GNUFDL; it is (part of) a song from 1974 (as written in the description) ...Sicherlich Post 08:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think there also might be some confusion concerning music quotes. To my knowledge, there is no restriction to this type of quote, no matter how recent the origin. Remember this is not a picture, but an «arrangement» of a melody, or a short scrap of it, at that. de:Benutzer:Rainer Lewalter
  Keep The tune was already known in 1914 and it might be even much older. Shaqspeare 11:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No copyvio, kept. Shaqspeare 19:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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das Bild ist urheberrechtlich geschützt, weil es in Frankreich keine Panoramafreiheit gibt und die Beleuchtung des Turma als Kunstwerk geschützt ist. 217.88.171.133 14:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A classic deletion request. IMO, the tower is at such a distance in this photo that is is difficult to see the details of the lighting design. Also, see Commons:Licensing#Works_of_arts, including architecture, exhibited in public_spaces for some information about how French courts have ruled. Thuresson 00:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Translating the nomination: The image is copyrighted because there is no panoramafreiheit in France and the lights of the tower are copyrighted. TZM de:T/T C 12:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept and tagged with {{Rename image|Paris by night, seen from Tour Montparnasse.jpg}} --ALE! 16:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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wrong title choosen, sorry. --Zombi 16:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


done. tagged with {{Badname}}. Please use this template in these cases. --ALE! 07:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Self-portrait, not need anymore, because my user-page changed. --Turncoat 19:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dafür brauchst du keinen Löschantrag stellen, da reicht auch Schnelllöschung.
deleted on request of depicted user. --::Slomox:: >< 14:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Want to bring it in line with the English category en:Category:First Ladies of the United States. --Evrik 21:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved, pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Obsolete, no value --Vulpecula 12:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 13:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Author requests deletion of this image due to possible copyvio. I wasn't sure how to speedy this. RockinRob 04:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Zirland --ALE! 11:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image is at the bottom of the artist's Moon gallery page: http://www.psi.edu/hartmann/pic-cat/moon.html and the preceding page says "All Content Copyright William K. Hartmann". --SEWilco 04:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete clear copyviolation and tagged as such. (I would have deleted it allready but it is used on 12 pages and check usage is 2 days behind) --ALE! 14:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! 15:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Test image without license

deleted --ALE! 15:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Redundant to Image:Mercury 3.jpg, which is better quality. --GW Simulations 14:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Done. Marked with the {{Duplicate}} tag. --ALE! 08:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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not cc-by-sa. potho is scan --Shizhao 02:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. No source. -Samulili 10:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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screenshot, licence by Mozilla --RvM 08:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


  • Deleted. "The content of the screenshot must be free too. Make sure the screenshot does not contain trademarks, unfree text or images, or anything else that the general public does not have permission to make free use of." Commons:Licensing. -Samulili 09:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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OB, superseded by a PNG of the same name --Damian Yerrick () 03:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 15:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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this TRADEMARK. see [46] --Shizhao 03:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted This is a registered trademark. --ALE! 12:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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But Geneawiki has it from ngw.nl, so it is questionable whether they can apply licences ;-) The question is, when do French coats of arms fall under free use? PD-old should work or permission by the copyright-holder. Or is there a specific law, which makes administrational coats of arms free, like in Germany? --::Slomox:: >< 15:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
ngw.nl asks for permission before using the images commercialy. Therefore these images are against our policy. With the exception of the German Coas, as they are generaly PD. --ALE! 12:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is there really such a German law? See Template talk:PD-Coa-Germany; it would be great if someone could answer my question. Lupo 06:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

images tagged with {{Cc-by-nc-sa-2.0}} and therefore subject to speedy deletion. --ALE! 12:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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deleted --ALE! 12:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The user (KA PS) who uploaded this image wants to delete it : « Please delete picture » --Damouns 17:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC) Deleted --JeremyA 18:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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wrong name.
superseded by Image:Allianz 1999 2005.PNG

Markotek 23:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, please use {{Badname}} in the future, listing it here unnecessarily fills up this page. NielsF 00:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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wrong name.
superseded by Image:Allianz 1999 2005.PNG

Markotek 23:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, please use {{Badname}} in the future, listing it here unnecessarily fills up this page. NielsF 00:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The uploader, User:Tvaddict has been banned on the English Wikipedia for persistently inserting hoax information into articles on the English peerage. The image is presumably of the uploader, not the Earl of Jersey, whose real likeness may be seen here: [48]. --Choess 18:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Concur. Mackensen 18:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete, fake. Cnyborg 00:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! 22:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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A logo for something ("PREPA"), most likely unfree. -- Jon Harald Søby 08:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


image is not used, tagged as {{Logo}} --ALE! 15:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Bad name, this is NOT a picture of a Haida totem pole. It is a Kwakwaka'wakw house and pole. See here I also requesting that the person handling this request upload it with the new name Image:Kwakwaka'wakw house and pole at Thunderbird Park.jpg More info at w:Thunderbird Park and w:Talk:Kwakwaka'wakw --207.216.217.111 17:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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It uses {{PD-US}} but it's taken from Hawaii government site. Also doesn't look like having been published before 1923. --Conscious 17:37, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete. copyvio. see [49]:
    • Image Credits
      • Shark Species Illustrations: Les Hata
      • Shark Photos: Copyright James Watt/NOAA, www.wattstock.com
      • Shark Illustration and Animation: Jeff Whelan www.jeffwhelan.com
      • Illustrations: Odd Relatives and Sharks & Hawaiians, Ruth Cabanting
      • Charts & Graphics: Pineapple Tweed; Division of Aquatic Resources
      • Maps: Kristian Kerr

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Image:MillicentRetrab.jpg and all other images uploaded by Epocalypse (talk · contribs)

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Claims to have permission from the artist citing this page. However, I only see a request for permission and nothing else --JeremyA 15:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 14:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It's not a photograph while the licence seems to be applicable to photos only. 24.132.228.74 09:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Similar problem for many pictures here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Historical_coins_and_banknotes_of_Poland
That is true, it is not a photograph, it is official document, public domain. Repaired license: {polishpd} ---> {PD-Polishsymbol}, which says: ... according to the Polish Copyright Law Act of February 4, 1994 (Article 4, case 4) "governmental symbols, documents, materials and signs are not subject to copyrights". Hence it is assumed that this image has been released into public domain...
Asking for bot - for automatical repairing licenses of all other historical banknotes and coins. Julo 19:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the evidence that the works were designed by emploees of a Polish governmental entity then? 24.132.228.74 20:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is not so stupid requirement. The page http://www.nbp.gov.pl/home.aspx?f=disclaimer_banknoty_en.htm of the Polish central bank explains explicitely that one needs the permission of the original designer of the signs to use them, so seemingly the banknotes also don't fall under Article 4, case 4. 24.132.228.74 11:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's really interesting case, cause on the other side the notes are treated as public documents. Shaqspeare 15:28, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Their national bank says:

The National Bank of Poland as the issuer and the owner of property rights related to the money designs reserves itself the right to grant individually its approval for the reproduction of the money designs in order to exclude any case of their copying in any form that devalues the Polish money. Due to the issuer's necessity to ensure the safety of the banknote circulation, such an approval is usually secured with the requirement to reproduce only one side of the notes the size of which is decidedly different from the real one.

Doesn't sound free to me. — Erin (talk) 04:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Is the logo on the processor GNUFDL? 24.132.228.74 10:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. The logo is the subject of the image. It cannot be used freely. — Erin (talk) 05:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Original wikipedia image was from FoTW (en:template:FOTWpic), clearly not material for commons. Will soon be deleted from wiki itself. --Circeus 00:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Sculptures. The creators have not been dead for 70 years. Kjetil_r 00:51, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete, same as the Vigeland sculpture discussed elsewhere on this page. Cnyborg 01:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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superseded by Image:Split-arrows.png

  Delete --jed 18:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep. I'm the creator/uploader, and I found this nomination despite a lack of notification (after Jed removed the image from our "split" template and inserted the {{Deletion request}} tag without edit summaries). As recently discussed at the English Wikipedia, inline PNG images are incompatible with some older browsers that support inline GIFs. Other browsers (including older versions of Opera and Netscape Navigator) display the images, but not the transparent backgrounds. (Yes, this applies to PNG-8 images; I'm not referring to the IE PNG-24 bug.) Therefore, when we're dealing with images in the 1KB range (and the file size difference is unavoidably negligible), there's no compelling reason to switch from GIF to PNG. PNGs often are preferable to their GIF counterparts, but the assumption that this rule automatically applies is bureaucratic and counterproductive. —Lifeisunfair 03:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Delete Since this picture isn't used inline, there should be no problems, except perhaps a background glitch for a few people running major security risks. The image is unnecessary. Jon Harald Søby 08:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1. What do you mean when you say that the image isn't used inline? Perhaps that's the wrong term, but this is how a Wikipedia user referred to it. (When one of these templates was switched from GIF to PNG, he was unable to see the image.) 2. Please explain the benefit(s) of replacing this particular GIF icon with a PNG. —Lifeisunfair 10:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete Delete both and use Image:Split-arrows.svg instead, as per policy. — Erin (talk) 08:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Which policy mandates the use of a file that's larger, less detailed and broken for 85% of users? If this madness continues, the Wikimedia projects will be forced to use local images instead of the Commons. —Lifeisunfair 09:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How is it broken? It looks fine to be in IE. — Erin (talk) 01:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In IE6 (used by approximately 85% of website visitors), the background is solid white (instead of transparent). This is due to a MediaWiki bug that causes all SVGs to be needlessly rendered as 24-bit (instead of 8-bit) PNGs. This is not merely an issue of aesthetics, as I've personally worked with visually-impaired people for whom these icons serve as a means of differentiating between Wikipedia articles and meta-content. The lack of transparency makes the images more difficult for them to recognize. The SVG is useful for applications requiring a larger presentation of the graphic, but it isn't a suitable replacement for the raster versions. —Lifeisunfair 02:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no policy that mandates the deletion of GIF files like this, particularly when a user wants to continue to use them. Let's not fight over a few thousand bytes. I already delisted the other (PNG vs. SVG) pictures, and intend to delist this one as well.--Eloquence 03:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted--Shizhao 12:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

reopened image was tagged as "deleted" by Shizhao but the image still exists and is used in the English Wikipedia. In addition the image was restored and the {{Delete}} tag was removed from the description page by Duesentrieb without informing us here. So please decide now quickly what to do with this image. --ALE! 09:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, sorry for not dropping a note here. Here are my reasons for restoring the image:
  • the image does not violate any copyright or commons policy. there's no need for deletion.
  • the fact that an image is available in a "better" format is not a reason for deletion - this is explicitely stated in Commons:Deletion guidelines
  • The image was still used in the english wikipedia on dozens of pages and several templates. Never delete an image that is still being used, if the deletion is not urgent (i.e. if it's not a copyvio or against commons policy).
  • After repeated complaints by several projects, and entiry communities losing trust in commons, it should be clear by now that we should not delete images that people want to use if they are not against policy and not copyvios. See Commons:Village_pump#Stop deleting "redundant" images in "inferior" formats! for the last incarnation and specific discussion of this image.
  • Deletion requests are not voted on - it's not a matter of majority, but of arguments. I have restored this image because tehre was simply no reason to delete it, and the deletion disrupted the appearance of several articles on an important project.
  • The arguments of the two delete votes ("not used inline", "use svg instead as per policy") are simply and plainly wrong. The image is used inline, and there is no such policy (quite the contrary).
I'm aware that admins should not get into a delte/restore war, especially not after a discussion on this page. I restored this image because I was explicitely asked to do that, and I consider Shizhao's deletion to be an honest mistake. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 09:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the bitmaps should be replaced by the vector image, but there is a strong desire to keep them. Let's have this debate at a future date, when browser support makes the case for SVG clearer. For now, all three formats (GIF, PNG, SVG) are in use on hundreds of pages.

KeptErin (talk) 05:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be the uploader's personal idiosyncratic collage of ethnic hatred, composed of a number of probably or potentially copyrighted elements... AnonMoos 08:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted image starts with "FUCK TURKEY"... enough said. I blocked the user for 3 days. pfctdayelise (translate?) 09:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Article is empty --Smurrayinchester 10:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Pfctdayelise (Please use the {{Speedydelete}} tag in such cases.) --ALE! 10:18, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Badly named since its resolution is higher than indicated. OB by Image:Nationalversammlung.jpg. I've updated the affected articles to the other version. --Valentinian (talk) 11:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just posted it here to be on the safe side. I'm more familiar with the en:Wiki rules. Valentinian (talk) 23:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Jon Harald Søby --ALE! 12:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It is copy of ja:画像:Nintendo ds.jpg but its description doesn't have timestamp of it. It seems GFDL-vio.--PiaCarrot 11:51, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Shizhao --ALE! 13:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The use of SOHO images or data for public education efforts and non-commercial purposes is strongly encouraged [50]. The fact that SOHO images are not free is also noted in the {{PD-USGov-NASA}} copyright tag used for this file. --Vesta 17:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another SOHO image: Image:The Sun withProminence.jpg --Vesta 07:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And one more: Image:Double CME.gif --Vesta 11:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


one image was already deleted, the other two are marked as noncommercial and will be handled in the speedy delete process --ALE! 13:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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superseded by Image:Merge-arrows2.svg

  Delete --jed 14:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete, but not for the reason stated above. This is a redundant copy (with worse compression) of Image:Merge-arrows.png. —Lifeisunfair 15:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 13:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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PD status extremely dubious. "Restrictions on use/reproduction: Nil" might refer to how anybody can make a copy request. I have tried enquiring to the archive and am awaiting a response, but there is too much doubt (see confusing copyright notice for the archives) to leave the image on commons --Circeus 03:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have gotten confirmation that "restriction on use/reproduction" is refering specifically to restriction thatthe original might have imposed,or technicallimitations, and has nothingto do with the copyright status. Circeus 23:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a Canadian historian, and I have long had to deal with national archive rules. You are partially correct here. That there are no restrictions on use or reproduction says nothing about the copyright. The image is still copyrighted, and the copyright is owned by the Library and Archives of Canada. However, the no restrictions on use/reproduction means that we are perfectly free to use it, just as though the image was in the public domain. Thus the tag should be changed to {{Copyrightedfreeuse}}, and the image need not be deleted. This page gives a more detailed summary of the archive's copyright rules. - SimonP 00:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Kept. howcheng {chat} 21:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The image is "Fair use" at the English wikipedia where it was copied from. --Boivie 19:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete Siebrand 12:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC) Fair use is not allows here[reply]
Unlinked and deleted Shaqspeare 11:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Sculpture by Carl Fredrik Reutersward. Reutersward has not been dead for 70 years. -- Kjetil_r 23:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The same applies to Image:UN-001.jpg and Image:Non-violence.jpg. Kjetil_r 23:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This work of art is displayed in New York City. Does the US have the same strict licensing laws on public art displays as, for instance, Norway? -- Ranveig 11:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Commons:Derivative works. Photos of public art in the US seem to be derivative works. Kjetil_r 14:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! 23:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no contact information for the photographer either at his page http://www.dreamstime.com/Seagrave_info or http://hometown.aol.com/seagrave309/index.html. Therefore I am deleting the image since its free status cannot be confirmed. If anyone does manage to contact him in the future, and he agrees to license it freely, the image can be undeleted then. Angr 18:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright status of this sxc.hu image was never clarified on wikipedia, it is thus inappropriate for commons, as it will soonbe deleted from wiki. --Circeus 01:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see COM:SXC, as long there are no incompatible usage restrictions like noncommercial or nonderivative these images are still accepted here. --Denniss 09:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
the problem is that as of now, there is no way to check the exact status of that image and whether the original upload was okay, because the user's account does not exist anymore and the original upload did not state clearly that the user hreleased the images under a compatible license. Circeus 14:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Going by Commons:Stock.xchng images the best solution is to get a written confirmation by the author.... The account on sxc.hu does exist, but he has removed all his photos. But he does link to http://www.dreamstime.com/Seagrave_info , from there he should be contacted whether he releases this image with a free license... / Fred Chess 11:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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These images are for non-commercial use only under Norwegian law. One has already been deleted for this reason. Please delete all images on which the statues are shown in a prominent way. - Quistnix 21:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd want to see an accurate translation of the relevant law into English first. Also, "prominent way" is just a little too vague to be enforced as policy, so that needs to be clarified too. Stan Shebs 00:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: see the discussion above at Template:Deletion_requests#Image:Vigeland_stampvoetend_jochie.jpg. NielsF 00:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Which purports to supply the translation in an unreadable format, and didn't address what "prominent way" is supposed to mean. I can crop my pictures in all sorts of ways if that's what it takes to make people happy, but don't intend to do it as some sort of passive-aggressive trial-and-error process. Stan Shebs 03:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unreadable as in you don't have MS Word, I guess? The image above was deleted because of this paragraph of Norwegian copyright law:
§ 24. Works of art and photographic works which form part of a collection or which are exhibited or offered for sale may be depicted in catalogues of the collection and in announcements of the exhibition or sale.
Works of art and photographic works may also be depicted when they are permanently located in or near a public place or thoroughfare. However, this shall not apply when the work is clearly the main motif and the reproduction is exploited commercially.
Buildings may be freely depicted.
So I guess images like Image:Vigeland angry boy.jpg are not possible because the work of art is the main subject of the picture, which would make the picture not possible for commercial use, which should be possible for it to remain on Commons. NielsF 10:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK thanks. So a picture of a bridge with sculptures on it is OK, but not a closeup of any single sculpture. Stan Shebs 11:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Law can be read here Lov om opphavsrett til åndsverk m.v. (åndsverkloven). Gjengivelse av kunstverk mv. in Norwegian. Nsaa 14:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First we should find the sculptor behind every sculpture. I don't think Gustav Vigeland made all of them. (On the other hand, technically, those who don't have information on the sculptor are {{subst:nsd}}.) -Samulili 10:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the whole theory of the park was that it was all Vigeland's work, but I'm no expert. Something made by uncredited helpers would still be copyright Vigeland. Stan Shebs 11:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  CommentAll of the statues in the park are Vigeland's work, in the sense that he made the drawings and/or models from which the final bronze casts or stone carvings were made. My attempt of sorting these images out would be:
  • Keep:
  • Uncertain:
  • Delete:

--Cnyborg 23:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cnyborg's sorting seems reasonable. Kjetil_r 00:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. -- Ranveig 09:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I concur. __meco 22:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing that these images are used on many projects, would it be OK to stall the deletion with a few weeks, during which the Wikizine will be notified about this deletion, and will have the option of uploading the images as fair use on their Wikipedia?
Fred Chess 23:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't belive that the law [52] is relevant here. Vigelandsparken is part of a public area, managed by Oslo-municipality and "owned" by the Norwegian people. If I coose to take a picture of "Sinnataggen" and use it to sell whatever nobody can or will do anything? Nsaa 14:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You will be sued by the Vigeland family if you use a picture of "Sinnataggen" to sell something. It does not matter that Vigerlandsparken is a public area. --Kjetil_r 15:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Licence and Copyright by the producer company, nit by the uploader

Can you please correct the filename of the image to be deleted? --ALE! 15:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done --RvM 17:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted screenshot (still) from a movie and therefore a copyvio --ALE! 13:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Unverifiable license. Deleted at Flickr --Pjacobi 08:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. Kjetil_r 23:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Empty categories; see Category:München, Germany. --Rdb 11:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not Category:Munich, Germany? Category names should be in English as long as automatic redirects do not work for categories. Thuresson 13:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, I didn't create those categories, I just saw that there were two of them too much ;) But for re-categorizing those at Category:München, Germany, one would need a bot. --Rdb 17:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Fb78 --ALE! 15:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Too small and not required license Jgomez53 17:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted license is cc-by-nc. --ALE! 16:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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An unused slightly broken raster copy of Image:Lapin maakunnan vaakuna.svg. --Hautala 15:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It's cropped version of Image:PL Gorzow Widok.JPG. It's been used only during voting on Featured Picture Candidates on Polish Wikipedia. Now it's useless (BTW: I'm the creator of this cropped version). Ss181292 12:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. howcheng {chat} 21:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Clearly contradicting the Wikimedia visual identity guidelines (The logo should not be turned around or distorted), see also Template:Copyright by Wikimedia. --Pjacobi 15:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it is tagged with Template:Copyright by Wikimedia which states: Use of the logos is subject to the Wikimedia visual identity guidelines. If there is a significantly different policy intended, for the Foundation logo and other logos, we need different tags. But if the current tagging mirrors the intention, this -- and all other distorted WP logos -- have to be deleted. --Pjacobi 21:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Not that I really care if it is deleted here (it was made for Uncyclopedia), but as the creator "editor" I felt responsible, when I found it was here, to upload the latest version (the previous version looks horrible on anything but a a white background, this version (frames made by uncyclopedian MoneySign) has much better background freedom). Note that I am unsure which license tag should be used for: I release any edits to this copyrighted image into public domain. If you'd like to see *why* it was made, see Uncyclopedia:Wikipedia with a javascript enabled browser. --Splarka 05:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikimedia:VIG is only about the Wikimedia logo. There is no Foundation policy about modifying the project logos for use on those projects. The only relevant points here are that the logo is trademarked and copyrighted, so you can't use it to pass off an unrelated project as a Wikimedia project and you can't claim a derivative is GFDL or something other than copyrighted by Wikimedia. Angela 08:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Such images can be kept, but should be tagged with Template:InternalUseOnly. Their non-freeness falls under the same clause as the Wikimedia logos themselves, i.e. there's an exception to our normal free content policy for them. The Wikimedia logo, on the other hand, is currently "sacred", though the Board might authorize some derivatives in the future.--Eloquence 13:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep for the same reasons, it's just a nice graphic and can be used in a friendly way. --Sven 22:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep it is spread very widely in the meantime and it is more apealing than disgusting... --Stefan-Xp 22:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 11:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Too small, better map at Image:ASEAN members.png. --Rdb 17:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I like it - we should try to get permission from the foundation -- Duesentrieb(?!) 12:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is no longer used in any wikipedia, I removed it from all articles which were using it. Compare [53], only usage are 2 local copies on en: and id:.
Ok   Delete then, since it is so small and the better one has the same information. (Might have been easier to upload over the original file though, wouldve saved trouble of votes for deletion & replacing images) --Astrokey44 13:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Duesentrieb: Warum Erlaubnis der Foundation? Bist du beim falschen Bild gelandet?! / Why permission from the foundation? --Rdb 10:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept (the image has a proper license and is used on several projects) --ALE! 10:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image deleted. Angr 18:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CKX Inc./Elvis Presley Enterprises owns the rights to Elvis' likness and image in several countries. Not certain that this usage is applicable for public domain. --FuriousFreddy 23:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am unsure about this image. It was licensed as PD-self. That is ok.
CKX Inc./Elvis Presley Enterprises owns the rights to Elvis' likness. However, I believe that such a small icon can not violate the rights of these companies.
But being in doubt, I vote delete.   Delete --ALE! 06:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete copyvivo --gildemax 17:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really sure if they have copyright the Elvis' likeness. It's rather a registered trademark or registred product form. But not copyright itself. Shaqspeare 18:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:H19 showing engine.jpg which has a more appropriate title --rogerd 00:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It's the same image as Bee1web.jpg and no links to it For some reason, I can't make a valid link to it...? Laur2ro 09:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted after checkusage and replacing at pl:. You couldn't make the link because you forgot the Image: part of the link. In the future please tag with {{Duplicate}} instead of listing it here. NielsF 10:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks for the info! Laur2ro 11:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see the need for the umpteenth picture of an adolescent's erect penis. If you want a picture of a Spasskondom (funny condom), why not just picture the condom itself? It's also incorrectly tagged by the way (fairuse). NielsF 12:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete, no license tag but "Permission = fair use". And delete his other Penis pic as well.--Denniss 14:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted, you're right, fair use should've been enough. NielsF 15:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted. No need to list this here. Next time please wait until some admin deletes the image.
Deutsch: Gelöscht. Es ist nicht nötig dieses Bild hier zu listen. Bitte warte das nächste Mal einfach, bis ein Admin das Bild löscht.

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Es gibt keinen Hinweis auf eine Einverständniserklärung der abgebildeten Person zur Veröffentlichung ihres Fotos. Auch Schüler haben Persönlichkeitsrechte, auch wenn mancher Lehrer das nicht gerne hören mag. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 12:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Auf de:Bild_Diskussion:Ldl-wortschatz-2.jpg zitiert Jeanpol, derjenige, der das Bild hochgeladen hat, eine Freigabe der Schülerin. Zugegeben, keine Freigabe, die man vor Gericht als Beweis durchgehen lassen würde, da ohne Name und ohne Quelle, aber Jeanpol ist ja kein unbekannter Benutzer und hat wohl soviel Vertrauen verdient, dass man ihm das glaubt. --::Slomox:: >< 14:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wobei wir bei der Frage wären, ob das Mädel schon volljährig ist, oder ob nicht die Erziehungsberechtigten eine Einwilligung geben müssen. Die von Dir zitierte Diskussionsseite war mir nicht bekannt. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 16:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Die Sache hat sich erledigt. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Translation: it's not any concern anymore (kept). Shaqspeare 11:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see the need for the umpteenth picture of an adolescent's erect penis. If you want a picture of a Scherzkondom (funny condom), why not just picture the condom itself? In contrast with Image:Spasskondom.jpg above, this one's tagged as PD, so no speedy. NielsF 15:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy and block or at least warn user. Look at his contributions, it seems images are uploaded only to vandalize other pages. --Denniss 18:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, problem is I want to know what the community thinks of such images, otherwise I would've deleted it right away, I posted it here because I wasn't sure of what to do. You had a point with the speedy before, but this case is slightly different, so I don't want to speedy it right away. I thought there was a policy in the making for this sorta stuff? NielsF 01:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Very “funny”. Delete --Kjetil_r 02:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep -- If it doesn't go against our rules, and actually illustrates something, why delete? -- Ranveig 10:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The uploader vandalized my talk page yesterday (I guess he did not like my vote). This image can only be used to vandalize. Kjetil_r 10:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of images can be used to vandalise pages. The letter "z" can be used to vandalise pages. That doesn't mean we should delete either. The image in question could certainly be used to illustrate an article on condoms, for instance. -- Ranveig 19:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{delete}} redundant with other images and uploader is showing improper behaviour, meaning the source of the image and copyright status can not be trusted. Johntex 06:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep The caption is right, there is no reason to serious concern about the licence. Shaqspeare 11:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep. However, if the uploader is a vandal, he should be blocked, of course. It can be used to illustrate pages as well as to vandalize them. Many pictures do so. TZM de:T/T C 12:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 12:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:Curvespeed.svg which is vectorized and more true to the specification--—Scott5114 00:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted — Erin (talk) 04:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Simply a redirect to Help:Contents, no page links there and no one will probably type that in hoping to get to help:contents. Lcarsdata Talk | E-mail | My Contribs

On second thoughts almost all the help redirects (listed here in itlaics) should be deleted.

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No information on the original creator of the seal, and created post-1923 in the US, so I think the seal is still under original copyright. — Laura Scudder | Talk 16:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Angr 19:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Not needed for Wikipedia contribution. the preceding unsigned comment is by Gvortex (talk • contribs) Kajk 08:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by uploader request, also no license --ALE! 15:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploaded SMFscreenshot.jpg twice, was supposed only to upload on Wikipedia, but mixed up the tabs in Firefox, so also had it uploaded here unintentionally. Sorry for the confusion. --Rasbelin 06:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Screenshot of a copyrighted web page, which clearly states at the bottom: "All Rights Reserved. Copyright © 2006 by Excelloz.com" --GeeJo 10:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Wrong name by mistake. I am the author of picture. --Vegafish 12:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Commercial company description. -- EugeneZelenko 15:50, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 08:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a easy-type filename. I am the author of picture and made a copy at Image:Taiwan Main Road 1 Sign.gif. --Vegafish 18:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


no need to discuss this here. Image is already tagged with the bad name tag. --ALE! 08:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The picture is too big acording to the licence. "provided that all the images [...] are 150x150 pixels or smaller." Nux talk | didn't answer? drop a note 18:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • This mentions 'for pictures uploaded after 11 november 2005' I don't understand what we should do with picture uploaded before, as is that one... CyrilB 19:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What did I miss here? I only see: {{Polish coats of arms by Tadeusz Gajl}}, nothing about file sizes and/or uploaded after etc.?? NielsF 21:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well... The last line of this template states "[..] provided that all the images uploaded after 11 November 2005 are 150x150 pixels or smaller"... CyrilB 21:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Stated probably, the current version doesn't. User WarX changed it (twice). So there seems to be a dispute about the licence? NielsF 12:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ask User:Piotrus for details, as he was the one to negotiate the usage of Gajl's work in wikipedia. As far as I remember the result was that all previously-uploaded maps could stay, while the newer should be smaller. Halibutt 15:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've sent him a message to look in to this. NielsF 15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, we have two issues here:

1) the picture has been uploaded by Mathiasrex (talk · contribs). Matthiasrex doesn't care much for giving proper sources or licences :( Note that the w:Image:Herb Lis.jpg was uploaded in late 2004, and my guess is that Matthuasrex - as he often does - copied the image from en wiki chaning name, not using NowCommons, nor giving the source. The current Commons image is used on pl wiki. I'd we warn Matthias, and either keep the image, append the copyright info and change the links on en wiki, or delete it, copy the en wiki image to commins and fix the links on pl wiki.
2) WarX (talk · contribs) has started to delete the size requirement from the licence. This is not right: the author did not gave permission for copyleft licences or new big images. I have asked him about that.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Painted penis. Not at all useful. -- Kjetil_r 04:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted, reasons: bad file name, not useful --ALE! 16:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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are dubble, there is an better quality image in this cat. Carolus 00:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They both have no source mentioned, so they should be deleted both. NielsF 00:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They are paintings by Franz Xaver Winterhalter (1805–1873) -> {{PD-art}}. Kjetil_r 00:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Tag such images as {{Superseded}}, and remove them from use ([55], [56]). Kjetil_r 00:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Tagging as {{Duplicate}} would be better I think (at least the Image:KingLouis-Philippe.jpg/JPG images, which are just cropped versions of one another). The other image Carolus means, Image:Louis-Philippe de Bourbon.jpg has a very different color balance. Though they all are {{PD-Art}}, a source would be in order, my guess is that neither Carolus nor Kjetil_r took a picture of this painting themselves. NielsF 01:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IMO images of art with different colour balances should always be kept. They're just too hard to judge. Leave it to the Wikipedia users. Just link them to each other, no need to delete. pfctdayelise (translate?) 07:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Samulili --ALE! 06:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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no importance for wiki --RvM 14:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kept--Shizhao 11:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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German Battleships

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Image:Scharnhorst-28.jpg and Image:BB Scharnhorst 1939.jpg are clear copyvios since even on there respective pages in Commons, it is stated the pictures are copied from german books. More problems to come: (Nearly) All photos in Battleship Bismarck are said to be "PD Military Navy", so "took by employee of the US Navy". This seems to be not true, they are just from history.navy.mil, some taken from other german warships, which for sure didnt have US Navy sailors on board --Schlendrian 14:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Were POWs allowed to photograph german warships? No I don´t think so... ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The library says[57] on what it is: "It's a Source of Images that are BELIEVED to be in the Public Domain." The emphasis is original. -Samulili 04:20, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete clearly copyvios -- Gorgo 19:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete, as Gorgo said. "Believing" is an utterly useless licensing term here.--Wiggum 21:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 15:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Es gibt keinen Hinweis auf eine Erlaubnis der abgebildeten Personen ihr Bild zu veröffentlichen. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Die abgebildeten Personen waren auf einer öffentlichen Veranstaltung und Kurt Jansson als Vorsitzender des MediWiki Vereins dürfte mittlerweile ein Person der Zeitgeschichte sein, auch Uli wurde mehjrfach abgedildet ohne das er Einspruch erhoben hat. Also bitte etwas Augenmaß. --Finanzer 20:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Behalten /   Keep. Neben den Argumenten von Finanzer wurden die Referenten meines Wissens vor der Veranstaltung darauf hingewiesen, dass Aufnahmen gemacht werden, bzw. dies ergibt sich von selbst. Auch dürfte Uli Fuchs selbst eine eigene Relevanz haben, da er den bedeutendsten deutschsprachigen Fork der Wikipedia initiiert hat / leitet (Wikiweise). Auch liegt hier keinerlei Eingriff in die Privatsphäre vor, da die Aufnahme während einer Podiumsdiskussion vor ca. 140 Zuhörern geschossen wurde. Longbow4u 19:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Imho completely irrelevant. Either they are "relative Personen der Zeitgeschichte", therefore not "normal people" or they have to explicitly agree to publication of the picture. One ist the operator of a more or less insignificant wikipedia fork the other is chairman of a wikipedia satellite club. I tend to to the latter option.--Wiggum 21:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
kept--Shizhao 13:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Pitures from a Wikipedia meeting

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  Delete "Private image collections and the like are generally not wanted. Wikimedia Commons is no web hoster for e.g. private party photos". Commons:Project scope -Samulili 10:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Es gibt keinen Hinweis auf eine Erlaubnis der abgebildeten Personen ihr Bild zu veröffentlichen. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Es gibt keinen Hinweis darauf, daß die abgebildeten Personen der Veröffentlichung zugestimmt haben. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doch haben sie. Einer bin ich und die Person neben mir ist das Bild bekannt und hat ebenfalls kein Einspruch erhoben. Mal so ne blöde Frage was soll das? Du darfst ruhig annehmen, dass den Mitgliedern des Hamburger Stammtisches bekannt ist, wer etwas gegen eine Abbildung hat und wer nicht. --Finanzer 20:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haben die abgebildeten Personen eigentlich der Veröffentlichung zugestimmt? ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept--Shizhao 13:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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derived from copyrighted work. --Matt314 17:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 13:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong name by mistake. Should be "Neptunbrunnen Dresden.jpg" (ask for help by the author) --Hutschi 11:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


tagged with {{Neptunbrunnen Dresden.jpg}} --ALE! 22:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Photos of the Wall street bull

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Derivative work, the sculpture is created by Arturo Di Modica. See Commons:Derivative works. Kjetil_r 20:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I sent an email to a representative of the artist asking for permission. Who knows... Siebrand 21:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete no answer. Siebrand 09:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! 22:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work, the sculpture is created by Luis Sanguino in 1973. Kjetil_r 20:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 22:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no permission from the people in the picture. This is required by the US and German laws. The pictures may be taken in Portugal (2004 European Football Championship) whose law probably also requires the same. -Samulili 11:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted — Erin (talk) 15:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Trademark/copyright infringement of the same symbol from the Watchmen comic book. Uploader was also responsible for Image:Smilewatchmen.jpg, which may have been the same. howcheng {chat} 21:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Who is this "Sky" who is the author and where has s/he said the picture can be used as cc-by-sa-2.5? -Samulili 10:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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None of this material may be reproduced in any form without permission from the Griffith Institute, Oxford, OX1 2LG (See given source) definitly isn't compatible with the Commons Licensing Policy. --Kajk 08:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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no personal allowance in the licence (es fehlt der Hinweis auf den Model-Release-Vertrag, d.h. sind die abgebildeten Personen mit der Veröffentlichung einverstanden)--RvM 14:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep because of the wigs and full bodypainting they are not really recognizable -- Gorgo 19:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
deleted--Shizhao 12:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The Unisphere is not PD, it was made by Peter Muller-Munk (1904-1967) -- Kjetil_r 01:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Worlds Fair NYC 1964.jpg ditto. Kjetil_r 01:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is photo of public architecture, taken on public land. There is no way Muller-Munk owns any rights to it under US law.--Pharos 02:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Unisphere should be considered a work of art, thus the artist has the sole right to produce derivative works. See Commons:Derivative works. Kjetil_r 03:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is a public monument in a city park, and the designer no more owns the rights to it than Maya Lin owns the rights to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Incidentally, I did some research and Muller-Munk wasn't the designer anyway; that honor belongs to landscape architect Gilmore D. Clarke.--Pharos 04:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep It's rather construction/landscape object than sculpture. Shaqspeare 12:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep, for the reasons listed above. Chancemichaels 19:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)--Chancemichaels[reply]

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Kept. Angr 19:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Source and author given as LAMI EPFL (Laboratoire de Microinformatique - Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne). Nothing indicates that User:Alex Newman has the right to release this picture into PD. -Samulili 11:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Angr 19:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Unable to find any legislative references about free use of that. So delete it please (Unused). --Powermonger 16:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Normalerweise erlauben die Zentralbanken die Verwendung von Geldscheinabbildungen für Publikationen etc. Einzige Einschränkung ist meist, daß die Abbildungen nicht als Vorlage für Falsifikate dienen können. Das ist bei so kleinen Bildern schon mal gegeben. Zur Sicherheit kann ja noch "Muster" oder "Specimen" in die Bilder gemalt werden. Behalten. ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 17:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Should I write in Swedish now, to make sure that noone will understand this discussion?
I will be nicer and answer, in English, your statement that "central banks allow the use of notes for publications, etc". This is still a matter of copyright that needs to be confirmed by the bank because the bank, or possibly even the creator of the notes in question, can restrict the use of the note. Notes from some countries have for example been deleted from Commons.
So the question is what usage the "Banque des États d'Afrique Centrale" allows. Until it can be confirmed that they allow use under Commons license requirements, I'd say {{subst:vd]]. / Fred Chess 23:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ik schrijf dit maar in het Nederlands zodat niemand het begrijpt ;-). Anyway, from a publication of the BCEA ([58]): Toute reproduction ou représentation intégrale ou partielle, par quelque procédé que ce soit, du texte et/ou des billets contenus dans le présent ouvrage, est strictement interdite alors:   Delete. For those who don't speak French: Any reproduction or integral or partial representation, by whatever procedure, of the text and/or the bills contained in this work, is strictly prohibited (rough Babelfish translation, couldn't be bothered). NielsF 00:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I have uploaded a wrong version of the image Jean-Jacques MILAN 00:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by uploader request --ALE! 08:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The image reads "Copyright 1998 Wendy Carlos — All rights reserved". --Hautala 10:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Done. Was already tagged as a copyvio by someone. --ALE! 13:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:Fagnou fluoroarene coupling.svg. King of Hearts 21:15, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept --ALE! 15:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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SPAM - no relevance for wiki --RvM 05:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 12:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Incompatible license, see en:Image:Cute tiger cub.jpg. Conscious 14:15, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep It is under a freer licence than the GFDL. Its deletion would be Wikimedia's loss. — Erin (talk) 02:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete notification of the uploader is not free enough. Delete. --Fb78 10:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All GFDL images should go too then. — Erin (talk) 14:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete GFDL doesn't require notification of the author(s), this license does. In that respect it can be viewed as not free enough. This restriction is simply not accepted on Commons, see here. NielsF 14:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Straw man: no one said that the GFDL required notification. The GFDL and this licence each have restrictions on freedom of use, and these restrictions differ. Those imposed by the GFDL are a major impediment to the easy re-use of a picture in
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small inage of Image:Crataegus oxyacantha L.jpg --Shizhao 13:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 12:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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same Image:2005 Kuomintang visits to Mainland-csts.jpg--Shizhao 14:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted, please use {{Duplicate}} next time --ALE! 13:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work. Sculpture made by Fritz Koenig. Kjetil_r 12:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:The Sphere Battery Park.JPG as well. Kjetil_r 12:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! 23:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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According to uploader: only for EU-related use or informational purposes. May not be sold or rented. Thuresson 20:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may add Image:Angela Merkel.jpg as well. Kjetil_r 21:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete not free. --Gmaxwell 16:21, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am very annoyed with the enforcement of the image policy: what is the use of a "CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat"-template in the first place if there may not be any exclusions? There is dozens, if not hundreds, of copyrighted images used on Wikipedia (all of which seem to be fine) and once there is a restriction (which does not even affect the use on Wikipedia) people go all crazy. The image served its purpose very well and there is little alternatives; so why would one insist on a rule if there is no clear benefit (I uploaded the image and I am not affraid of copyright infringement myself - because it is stated that the image may be used for the purposes mentioned or cleared for more uses by the copyright-holder) for anybody? Why should Wikipedia not use the images they are provided if they have clear permission?
It is very tiring to have people find minor inconsistencies and then requesting the deletion of useful and helpful images. I do not care, go ahead and delete this image but don't assume that a silent deletion-request without even a one-word message to the uploader will help to get people to work on uploading pictures... -- Boereck 22:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)'[reply]
Comment: You were notified, so stop shouting: [59]. Please also see Commons:Licensing for restrictions such as non-commercial or educational use only, which aren't allowed. NielsF 22:41, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
a) sorry for the shouting, I really was - and still am - mad! b) you know, too, this is ridicolous and c) thanks for the link! this is what I pointed out above: two lame "request for deletion" tags on my talk page and nothing else. not even one word. It would be funny if it wasn't this sad! -- Boereck 08:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Let me add or ask: Why is the Smithsonian-License allowed to make restrictions to the usage of the images (see here for example: [60])? And why may copyrighted images, that are released, be used on Wikipedia (while even MORE restrictions apply to them (like it may not be taken out of the boundaries of Wikimedia projects (see here for example: [61])). I read the Commons:Licensing more than once and I cannot find the proper passage stating: "images that are copyrighted may not have restrictions to their usage on wikimedia projects"! If you show me that, I will really stop shouting and eventually calm down! -- Boereck 08:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about "The Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose." and "The following restrictions must not apply to the image or other media file: * Use by Wikimedia only (the only non-free-licensed exceptions hosted here as well are Wikimedia logos and other designs copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation that are the trademarks, service marks or other design elements that identify the sites of the various projects of the Wikimedia Foundation) * Noncommercial/Educational use only * Use under fair use restrictions * Notification of the creator required, rather than requested, for all or for some uses" What is so difficult about that? --Fb78 09:26, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Boereck why don't you just upload it to en.wp under "Fair use"? See w:WP:FU. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as copyvio. — Erin (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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"provided that you do not modify the contents" is in direct contradiction to commons' inclusion policy of requiring the possibility of producing derivative works of the uploaded content. --Melanom 20:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted and uploaded to en.wikipedia.org as fair use. — Erin (talk) 10:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Obviously not produced by the US federal government. All similiar photos taken from the FBI website have been deleted. --Slarre 03:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

proof that the fbi has stolen it--194.95.254.98 12:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
HDDTZUZDSQ, that is not relevant. Kjetil_r 18:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:Napoleon's theorem.svg. King of Hearts 17:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. That SVG looks terrible. Please use text for text, and trace rather than use automatic image->svg conversion.   Delete this *should* replaced with a good svg. --Gmaxwell 16:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep I have redrawn the SVG and now it looks like the orignal. It is also 6k rather than 73K now. --Gmaxwell 16:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Superseded. — Erin (talk) 05:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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very low quality --Arafi 09:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted --ALE! 08:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON: duplicate photo--Michau Sm 10:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • ARGUMENTS: Author of this photo asked and agreed (this photo was uploaded twice with diferent page names, he (author) don't know how to delte a image) --Michau Sm 10:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted, please use {{Badname}} next time --ALE! 08:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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These images are of an exibit at a national park, but the artist does not work for the US Government and he is still alive and sells his work. --Gmaxwell 16:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


all deleted --ALE! 09:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:Benzyl alcohol.svg. King of Hearts 18:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted--Shizhao 11:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Are drivers licenses produced by the US federal government? If not, then this should be deleted as well. --Slarre 03:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No Driving Licenses are produced by Wal Mart... ((o)), Ja, bitte?!? 19:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete not US government publication as tagged. Unless it can be shown that the U.S. state drivers licence agency in question releases such licence photos to public domain, something like this should be assumed to be a copyright violation (unless predating 1923 or other reasons for PD status can be shown). -- Infrogmation 15:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete as per reasons above Siebrand 09:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment -- According to en:Template:PD-FLGov, items "made or received pursuant to law or ordinance or in connection with the transaction of official business by any ['state, county, district, authority, or municipal officer, department, division, board, bureau, commission, or other separate unit of government created or established by law' of the State of Florida]" are released into the public domain. This may apply here; but we need to know if driver's license images are produced by Florida's DoT. Jkelly 18:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Keep Siebrand us correct, it is not a federal document- this is a Florida state document. It was produced by Florida state DOT- See w:Image:AttasFLDriversLic.jpg and so as JKelly pointed *out, it is in the public domain. It should be marked with PD-FLGov. It doesn't mean that anyone could copy your florida state driver's license and publish it in newspapers since privacy rights would be infringed on. Atta is a public figure no one can make that defence on his behalf. In any case, the issue is copyright, not privacy, and it is PD. -Mak 05:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment There is no {{PD-FLGov}} template. --ALE! 10:02, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment PD-FLGov exists now. I copied it from Wikipedia and made it more "Common". -Mak 04:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


kept and new tag listed at Commons:copyright tags --ALE! 09:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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SPAM - no relevance for wiki --RvM 08:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch Wikipedia, not the norwegian. I think this picture shouldn't be deleted form Wikimedia because there are also pictures of for example a Coke cola tin can. That is not Spam. (my english is not very wel). Steven lek 20:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry of course it is Dutch milk. --ALE! 22:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, no milk :) It's the taste "milk chocolate". I don't know how this stuff is called in english, but in dutch it is nl:hagelslag. Effeietsanders 22:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have looked in a book and the english translation of "hagelslag" is sprinkles. Steven lek 11:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
it should be deleted since it is an unfree image - Quistnix 20:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But why is this an unfree image? There are much more images with a brand on it, like this image, or this image, or this image! Steven lek 10:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete this image, we need it for the dutch wikipedia. It's totally not spam, because there are more pictures of brands (like cocacola etc) Steven lek 08:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. Angr 19:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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No legal information provided saying why these logos of Norwegian political parties should be freely distributed. All except one upploaded by User:L.m.k. --Slarre 04:20, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  DeleteLogos of Norwegian political parties may not be used for any purpose. --Kjetil_r 12:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete Agree with Kjetil r assessment. Siebrand 10:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete I also agree Kjetil r's assessment. LERK (Talk / Contributions) 06:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete The uploader was active on Commons on July 16, 2006 for the last time. Therefore he was informed and had his chance to clearify the subject. He did not and therefore it has to be assumed that the logos are not freely useable. --ALE! 15:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete Being a Norwegian myself I would have liked a source behind Kjetil's assertion, however assuming he's not issuing random opinions of his own I agree that these images must be deleted. __meco 19:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. howcheng {chat} 17:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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not LGPL, may copyvio --Shizhao 07:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q: How do you know that? Shaqspeare 15:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete "Content courtesy Ekdotike Athenon S.A." at source URL provided in upload info. Siebrand 10:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 11:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Irp.jpg, Image:PodlaskieIRP.JPG, Image:PodlaskieIRP.JPG, Image:SmoleńskieIRP.JPG, Image:PodlaskieRP.JPG, Image:CzernihowskieIRP.JPG, Image:WitebskieIRP.JPG, Image:PodolskieIRP.JPG, Image:MińskieIRP.JPG, Image:MścisławskieIRP.JPG, Image:PołockieIRP.JPG, Image:PoznańskieIRP.JPG, Image:RawskieIRP.JPG, Image:Irp1635.jpg, Image:IRP3Narodów.JPG, Image:PolSwedU.JPG, Image:Irp1701.jpg, Image:RP 1686.JPG, Image:RP 1701.JPG, Image:7 yearswar.JPG, Image:UPolSzwedz.JPG, Image:PolRuswar 1792.JPG, Image:PolishRuswar 1792.JPG

All of these maps are copyright violation of the maps I created myself and uploaded to wikipedia (particularly of Image:Rzeczpospolita voivodships.png, which is a featured picture here in commons). Two months ago I contacted Mathiasrex asking him how could we settle the issue. I proposed that he gave me due credit for my work (as requested by both the original {{Halibutt Copyright GFDL}} and the {{GFDL}} itself) and that he removed his claims of authorship, but to no avail. Halibutt 16:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of deletion, wouldn't it be simply better to add your copyright tags to them? Considering Mathiasrex lack of replies, I tend to view his activities like that of a bot: sometimes he does good stuff, but his edits need to be revised by a human editor :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I proposed that to him two months ago, but that did not work. Perhaps I'll simply create such maps tonight basing on the source file rather than on some jpeg scan. I'll see what I can do. Halibutt 18:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a case where he should remove claims of authorship. He is an author of those maps, not the author. In fact the GFDL requires that both authors are credited. David Newton 14:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did not release my maps under plain {{GFDL}}. I released them under my own license modelled after it, named {{Halibutt Copyright GFDL}}. It is compliant with the standard GFDL with the exception that I specifically request credit for my work. This however has not been granted by Mathiasrex, who claims that it's actually his work, without even crediting me, not to mention preserving the proper license (as requested by both GFDL and my modification) or the copyright tag. Halibutt 19:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
cant you edit the descriptions to say what they are based on? --Astrokey44 14:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete just in case anybody wondered what is my stance. Halibutt 23:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


  • Kept. I properly attributed and licensed all of them so now there are no copyright violations. That is all this discussion cares about. Mathiasrex violated GFDL, possibly you could take actions against him. If he persists, he will at least be blocked from Commons. / Fred Chess 23:35, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The uploader has made copyright violations before and I am 99.99% sure that these images are simply copied from the Internet. --Derbeth 16:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:Abajolaloce.png. King of Hearts 18:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Keep Why change 200kB file to 900kB? --Tomia 20:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although the site is CC licensed, it seems to contain many images for which it is not the copyright holder. Unless someone can confirm that the site is the copyright holder of this logo, we should delete *both*. --Gmaxwell 16:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The uploader was never informed. I have done that now, so give it some time. --ALE! ¿…? 11:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi. I'm not a very good engish language writer so you may excuse my english. The image of the penguin had been made by a designer of the Federación de Estudiantes de la Universidad de Chile (Chile University Students Council) for the organization. It's true that the web site utilize some copyright images, but this is a original work, owned by the FECh. I talk to the Secretary General and the webmaster so they could send me the specifically autorization, if you don't belive that the own web site autorization is enought.
¡Hola! La imagen del pinguino con el cartel "Abajo la LOCE" fue realizada por una diseñadora de la Universidad de Chile para la Federación de Estudiantes de esa casa de estudios. Ésta última publica todos sus materiales bajo la licencia de Creative, tal como aparece en el sitio web. Ante la utilización del algunos materiales con derechos de autor (copyright), estoy solicitando al Secretario General y al webmaster que otorguen una autorización específica para su utilización.
Rakela 15:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I have the following answer from the www.fech.cl web site administrator and my request.
Álvaro Pozo <x@x.com> a usuario
Hola. La imagen pertenece al diseñador del movimiento surda, y está bajo creative commons, así que no hay problema.
On 8/11/06, Ricardo Hevia Kaluf < x@x.com> wrote:
¡Hola! Soy un colaborador regular de la Wikipedia en Español y necesitaba pedirte que me dieras una información. La imagen del pingüino con el cartel de "Abajo la LOCE" está bajo los términos de la licencia de Creative Commons, pero nu puedo encontrar al autor del trabajo y la cesión de los derechos. En el mejor de los casos sería genial que me autorizaras como dueño de la imagen a utilizarla específicamente. Te lo agradecería profundamente.
I hope that will be enought. Salu2! Rakela 22:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment Someone, translate please.
I am uncertain if it is enough, because Álvaro Pozo must be aware that he releases him images for commercial use too. There are Creative Commons tag that do not give this right -- for example {{Cc-by-nd}} -- these are not permitted. I can't speak Spanish so I can't understand what he is granting, but I would advice you to go to meta:OTRS/es and get an indisputable way to get the license correctly.
Fred Chess 06:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete A pesar que el muchos proyectos de Wikipedia son libres, los logos no lo son. Este parece ser un logo para mí, por consiguiente no es posible determinar el estado de los derechos de esta imagen solamente mencionando la licencia del sitio web. Lo mejor sería seguir las sugerencia que dio Fred Chess y que el sitio provea más información con respecto a la licencia. Hasta que no exista una comprobación yo propongo borrar. --Alhen .::··¨ 15:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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copyright by Warner Bros.


deleted. Next time please mark the image as {{Copyvio}} and do not list it here. Thank you. --ALE! 13:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Of absolute no use for any projects; stolen from [62], plagiarism & relicensing of copyrighted work. --24.236.137.11 02:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


is already marked as a copvio, will be handled in the speedy delete process --ALE! 08:47, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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REASON: the dimension of the picture is too small than the dimension of the image, it will be replaced by VanKampenTorus2.svg--Pappus 13:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, please use {{Badname}} or {{Duplicate}} from now on. NielsF 14:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

REASON: the dimension of the picture is too small than the dimension of the image, it will be replaced by Bouquetcircles2.svg--Pappus 13:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, please use {{Badname}} or {{Duplicate}} from now on. NielsF 14:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

REASON: the picture uploaded by mistake by newbie User:Now and replaced by correct one - Image:Radom_-_The_Jan_Kochanowski_Monument.jpg --Man 14:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted by Pfctdayelise, please use {{Badname}} or {{Duplicate}} from now on. NielsF 14:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I created this, useless. Lcarsdata Talk | E-mail | My Contribs 17:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by uploader request, not used --ALE! 14:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - duplicates Image:Abgragra-top.jpg - MPF 22:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Delete - wrongly named; re-uploaded as Image:Pinus contorta latifolia branch.jpg - MPF 22:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


deleted by User:NielsF --ALE! 22:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Some Pictures by Arthur Dove

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I see no reason, why these pictures should be PD. --88.134.45.204 11:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are PD (in the US) if they were published in the US prior to 1923? Kjetil_r 13:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But they weren't created/published prior to 1923 according to the dates given on the image pages and the file names. --88.134.45.204 20:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I did not notice. They seem like clear copyvios then. Kjetil_r 13:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted --the date of publication of the other images should be checked also as this may be later than the date of creation. --JeremyA 17:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploader claims that this 1909 painting is public domain. Henri Matisse died in 1954 which is less than 70 years ago. Matisse lived his whole life in France. Which is the copyright status? Thuresson 21:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot believe that Commons admins doesn t know Copyright trivia: The European Union has made a harmonization of the copyright terms in a 1993 directive. In all countries works are protected 70 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF THE CREATOR. Thus delete --Historiograf 13:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Matisse died in 1954, so his works are protected until 2024. However, in the United States, all works prior to 1923 are public domain. Please see licenses--Masen 17:43, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you can see [[63]]

The license says "In most cases, this means that its first publication was in the United States prior to January 1, 1923." (Don't know, if this means, that the very first publication of this picture had to be in the US for the picture to be PD) We know the year the picture was created, but do we know, whether this picture was published in the US prior to 1923? --88.134.45.204 01:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Delete France matters:

The safest way to apply international copyright law is to consider the laws of all the relevant jurisdictions and then use the most restrictive combination of laws to determine whether something is copyrighted or not. The jurisdictions that might need to be considered are:
  • The place where the work was created;
  • The place where the work is being uploaded from;
  • The place that any web server the work has been downloaded from physically is;
  • The United States.
A work is only allowed on Commons if it is either public domain in all relevant jurisdictions or if there is a free licence which applies to the work in all relevant jurisdictions. Commons:Licensing#Country-specific_laws

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Deleted for the reasons named above. Also deleted: Image:Henri Matisse - Self-Portrait in a Striped T-shirt (1906).jpg for the same reason. --Fb78 09:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  Delete. A sloppy attempt to vectorize Fagnou fluoroarene coupling.png. Too blurry to be of use. Superseded by Image:Fagnou fluoroarene coupling2.svg, a much smaller file of significantly higher visual quality. —Lifeisunfair 19:40, 30 June 2006 / 22:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Delete Couple of lines and allmost 300kB. That's some automatic trace, useless. --Tomia 20:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  Keep Improved version. -- King of Hearts 20:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In what respect is your SVG "improved" over the PNG? —Lifeisunfair 20:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not "improved" over the PNG, but it's better than the version before (see the file history of the SVG). As long as it's not too lacking in quality compared to the PNG, then it's better because SVG can be scaled. -- King of Hearts 21:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see what you mean. But now the SVG is 514,249 bytes! —Lifeisunfair 21:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I've created a new version: [[Image:Fagnou fluoroarene coupling2.svg. I'm not arrogant so I won't say this is better than either the PNG or King of Hearts version, but at least it doesn't make my computer crash when I try to edit it ;-). It's around 80 kb, 30 if you take the version without the text made into paths (but MediaWiki always screws that up :-S). NielsF 22:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! Let's speedy delete Image:Fagnou fluoroarene coupling.svg (uploader request) and move that second image over. -- King of Hearts 22:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted by User:Paddy --ALE! 12:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by Image:Methane-2D.svg. King of Hearts 00:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. So what does this mean? Another "derivative effect". -Edbrown05 11:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I take a picture of a statue, you call the photograph derivative; Neutalizer draws a picture of a graph, you call the drawing derivative. What's it all mean? -Edbrown05 12:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And yeah, I noted Commons:Derivative works, where you at? -> French Parliament adopts controversial copyright bill, I don't think you're going to make it. -Edbrown05 12:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What I mean is that the image has been obsoleted. Also, the new image (SVG) takes less space (10KB vs. 12KB) because simple lines are better represented with SVG, and it has better quality when scaled. -- King of Hearts 23:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
According to the deletion guidelines it is not a reason for deletion AND it is enough to get angry reactions in other projects.. For your information, it is better to use Jmol for these things anyway. GerardM 15:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, using a tracer and deleting the original is a GFDL copyright violation. You are deleting the very source of the work, and therefore the SVG has become illegal on commons after deletion of the original. - Quistnix 20:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Found it on speedydeletions and made it a normal deletion request. It needs to be clarified at this image wether a PD-50-years-after-publication rule applies in that case or not. Arnomane 07:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't see any reason for it to be PD. Shaqspeare 18:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This image is from an official Malaysian Government potrait that was widely used in Malaysia. So, a political poster tag could be used instead. In any case, the image could be more than 50 year old, though I am uncertain of the date the image was first published.


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Sculpture. Seems to have been made after Ruth's death (after 1948), thus the photo is a derivative work of a unfree work. See Commons:Derivative works. Kjetil_r 11:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone supposes, after I went to the trouble of reporting all information that was available on the the plaque of this public statue at the time I uploaded it, (information, by the way, that was lost here due to ineptitude or arrogance on this site), that you think I am able or motivated to supply the name responsible for this stupid sculptored image of a young Babe Ruth situated in the town he grew up in that now honors him, is sadly mistaken. -Edbrown05 11:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry but we can not accept images which a restricted by third party copyrights. Please read the derivative works link above. I thank you for your hard work, but we can't keep thing image. --Gmaxwell 16:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I find the delete argument speculative and weak. Neutralizer 21:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
US Copyright law is quite clear. § 106: Exclusive rights in copyrighted works states that “the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize ... to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work” --Kjetil_r 23:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, somebody sticks their sculpture in my path, and wants to restrict how I photograph their walkway obstruction. -Edbrown05 06:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So where is it, that this site says this sculpture is copyrighted? Who says so? -Edbrown05 07:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright Law of the United States of America: § 102. Subject matter of copyright: In general says that sculptural works are copyrighted. Kjetil_r 08:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Stick your stuff in a public place, then any sort of public stuff will happen with it. The sculptor didn't even get a name acclaimed to the stature on its pedestal. Anonymous stuff should be dealt with anonymously. -Edbrown05 07:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Anonymous stuff" is still copyrighted. Have some respect for creative people and their rights, please. --Fb78 10:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do what you must... in the meantime, there is a chance I may revisit the statue in the not so distant future. There at the statue, I might find what I could have missed, and what you are looking for, the sculptor's name. If there is, as I believe, no name of the sculptor on the pedestal, there are other means I'll get around to asking for in a try to identify who created this... because it is a good pictue of something I hold in perhaps less esteem than others, and should do the right thing for its originator, best regards Commons. -Edbrown05 04:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not anonymous. It is the work of Susan Luery, still alive. 6th hit (on the first result page!) of a Google search for +"babe's dream", the title of the statue. Delete as a derivative work of a copyrighted sculpture. There is no panorama freedom for sculptures in the U.S. Lupo 08:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Or actually (and even better), contact her and ask for permission to license this image, which is a derivative work, under the GFDL or as CC-BY-SA! Lupo 10:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What!? Can't post a picture of a public statue on-line! Are you crazy Lupo? I thought the requirements to satisfy United States copyright law, at least in-so-far-as its implementation here, was simply to provide credit, by naming, the statue's sculptor. -Edbrown05 03:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uhmmm, please please, sister Luery, can I place this picture of your sculpture on Commons? Not! She got paid for the thing and it sits in a public place... Edbrown05 07:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your sarcasm is completely misplaced. Read up on U.S. Copyright Law, and if you don't like it, take it up with your Senator of whatever in Washington, D.C. to lobby for a change of the legislation. Good luck. You may have actually far better chances asking her for permission, if you do so politely. But it must be a general GFDL or CC-BY-SA permission for the photo, non-commercial or "Wikipedia only" isn't good enough. We have a standard "request for permission" available somewhere... Lupo 10:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just FYI: I have contacted Susan Luery, and we're still negotiating. Chances are slim, but maybe the horse learns to sing. Lupo 08:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ed, would you be willing to place that image under the GFDL (instead of PD)? She certainly won't agree to our publishing a PD image, but maybe GFDL would be fine. Lupo 08:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I truly am sorry for my sarcasm. I do believe, now that the sculptor is known, that she should be acknowledged with this photograph. It was not my intention to not acknowledge the sculptor. The answer to the question of "Who" sculpted the statue escaped me at the time I photographed it and later uploaded it.
I will never be expert in copyright law and grant Commons the rights to apply any appropriate copyright tags to this photograph without any further consent from myself, so that it might remain permissible for publication by the originating sculptor. -Edbrown05 06:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wait a minute, let me see if I am getting this insanity straight... I, me, yours truly, needs permission from the scuptor of this statue to upload a photograph of it.
You, meaning the sculptor Luery, block my walkway with your crappy sculpture, and think you can withhold permission — from you as the creator of this obstruction placed in my path on a public concourse passed by thousands nightly during a home baseball game in Baltimore MD — to upload. You get credit for a piece of crap sculpture .... that's it. -Edbrown05 03:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep This is a 2-d photography of the 3-d sculpture. The Photography is not a reproducing the sculpture. Fotografirovanie 3-d object there is creative act. To my mind author of this work is a photographer User:Edbrown05. If he some fantastic way has loaded in Wikipedia 3-d image, that his certainly follow to delete. --Yakudza 21:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Edbrown05 is the author of this photograph. However this fotograph is a derivative work according to US law (see Commons:Derivative works), it doesn't matter if it's a 2D or 3D image. So the copyright of the original work still exists, wchich is why I'd have to vote   Delete. NielsF 21:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice if Susan Luery could explain whether or not she owns this "work" any more, or sold the sculpture to the Stadium Authority in Baltimore (! i lost my notes). After checking with Baltimore's Babe Ruth Museum, I got a telephone # to the Communications Director at the Baltimore Stadium authority, who hasn't communicated with me after I was put on hold and ultimately left a message that garnered no reply... :( Edbrown05 08:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Independently of whether she sold it she still holds copyright. /Lokal Profil 12:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed she does. In her initial e-mail to me, she explicitly wrote "I do own the copyright and derive income from my work reproductions and the use of the copyright in other ways; such as medallions, posters, postcards etc." As she still didn't reply anymore, still delete. Lupo 14:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete Whether right or wrong, in the U.S. there is no freedom of panorama for sculptures. Therefore this derivative work can only be published if authorised by the copyright holder. —JeremyA 16:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete I do not understand, why we discuss this issue to such an extend when the jurisdiction and the laws are very clear. The photo is a derivative work of a copyrighted sculptur installed in the US where panorama freedom does not exist. --ALE! ¿…? 14:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted --ALE! ¿…? 15:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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© Snapshots of the Past 2001-2005. All rights reserved. All text, photographs, and graphics contained on this web site are owned by Snapshots of the Past. No portion of this web site may be reproduced, redistributed or published in any form without written permission. (Source [64]) I don't think this is compatible with the license policy here on commons. --Kajk 08:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely a spurious copyright claim. Owning and selling a physical copy of this photo doesn't mean they were the copyright holders. The picture was taken in February 1919. Unfortunately I can't read the text in the lower right corner; I would guess it contains the photographer's name. Publication date unknown. Lupo 08:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note: another copy of this image can be found at the Globe & Mail. Lupo 08:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So it actually is {{PD-old}} if the creator died at least 17 years after the image was created and the copyright claim is void... --Kajk 08:56, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hm... in this case we would have to delete the image, because of missing source information (creator)? --Kajk 14:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Keep I am willing to give this image the benefit of the doubt. — Erin (talk) 02:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Delete As much as I hate to put in a delete vote, is 1919 really a suitable date to give benefit of the doubt? It seems odd to assume that creator died within 17 years of the image being taken; many professional photographers started their trade very young in this period, and there is a real chance that the photographer died within the last decade! Also, since the photographer's name is apparently on the original photograph (though illegible on this image file) it's impossible to use any extra leniency given to anonymous works. I currently have access to a large number of old photographs under European copyright law (so no pre-1923 US PD available), and can find very few that are out of copyright after about 1910. Conversely, a large majority (but not all!!) of the pre-1890 photographs are PD. Even 1900 is a slightly troublesome cut-off date, and I think that 1919 is too late. TheGrappler 14:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Deleted -- without further proof of it being genuinely public domain, safest must be to accept snapshotsofthepast.net copyright claim. Especially since we don't know how the original source looked like. / Fred Chess 21:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]