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File:Esplanade-de-la-defense.jpg

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Originally deleted as part of Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Skyscrapers in La Defense. After a discussion on COM:UNDEL, it was decided to unbundle and rerun all the discussions individually in order to allow more opportunity to discuss, for each image, whether COM:DM or some other exception applies. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:38, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Weak delete per COM:DM France. The question is whether the copyrighted works depicted are just an "accessory compared to the main represented or handled subject" (which would lead to the file been kept) or was it "intentionally included as an element of the setting" (which would lead to the file been deleted). Unfortunately, I am leaning towards the latter as the pedestrian bridge may be copyrighted as are the buildings in the background. --Ìch heiss Nat. Redd mìt mìr.🥨 03:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Question do elevated pedestrian walkways in the said district of Courbevoie-Nanterre-Puteaux area are copyrightable in accordance with French copyright laws? JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The law does not define what it considers works of architecture, but France takes an expansive view on the matter of copyright protection of such works. Please note that it was France and Belgium that were the main advocates and first proponents of the protection of architectural works at the Berne Convention. --Ìch heiss Nat. Redd mìt mìr.🥨 03:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      Another question: Does the walkway at the foreground passes the standards as mentioned at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/France#Threshold of originality? It mentions that "France has 'a slightly higher threshold of originality in general, and particularly so in the context of photographic works.'" It mentions that a certain work is eligible for copyright when "it bears the 'imprint of the personality of the author.'" Does the walkway "bears the imprint of the personality" of the one who designed or constructed it? For me the walkway seems to be "plain," but opinions from other editors might give better inputs. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • For my case,  Keep because it is a cityscape view (not confined to a specific building or two), and I highly doubt the walkway as a copyrightable element, and can pass the acceptable COM:TOO standards. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can this photo be also kept because it is a night cityscape (not daytime cityscape that would make most copyrightable elements of buildings visible)? Just found an input by Jameslwoodward at Commons:Deletion requests/File:La place Monument de Kindu.jpg. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Christian Ferrer (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also deleted: the file's cropped derivative File:La-Defense.jpg. Non-admin comment by _ JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:28, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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