Support - Excellent composition and detail, the pose is almost human. The overexposed whites are not enough for opposing but maybe they could be fixed. - Alvesgaspar08:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - I agree concerning the overexposed whites - Charlessauer 22 May 2007
* Neutral He might be a great photographer, but i have the feeling that this image isnt real. (concerning the whole background) --Makro Freak21:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question Why do you say that? Question It appears that the photographer is reflected in the bird's eye? Can that really be the case? Regards, Ben Aveling12:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Because if you look on the forebody, in the middle there is green dust on the feathers. This seems to be postproduction artefacts.--Makro Freak12:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lovely composition: better than most boring centered flowers, including many of the ones that I take. Still, this picture is all about the color. -- Ram-Man12:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The DoF here is very high (check the sensor size and aperture). There is either a little wind blur or more likely a camera sensor that has difficulty with retaining detail in highly saturated colors. You've been there, but I think in this case it's pretty nice, as you can make out detail in most of the flowers. It looks really good at 2MP, not nearly as good at 100%. -- Ram-Man14:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support The composition is strong for such a common subject. The only negative to this image is that the shorter-stemmed flower is a bit out of focus. I usually prefer both flowers in focus, like your image here, or if one is in focus then the other should be far enough out of focus, like my image here. Still I wouldn't oppose a good shot due to that kind of picky personal preference. -- Ram-Man15:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So 5 people supported its removal on a vote that wasn't even about removing it? Great. I just roll my eyes when someone removes it. I see nothing wrong with it, so that's at least one oppose vote, not to mention all the people who were not polled who actually use it which have to be more than 5 people. I don't want to make a proposal per se, just so much as ignore the silly message about it being banned, which incidently doesn't even link to the discussion (which is rediculous!). There is clearly a lack of consensus over this being banned. -- Ram-Man19:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question Why are people not voting on this (or a bunch of other flower pictures, like this and this, for that matter)? It deserves more than 3 votes. And why is this one so much better? At best it is only slightly better. -- Ram-Man03:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm completly lost after learning that Hieracium species are among the most difficult to identify by botanists... Could it be H. caespitosum or H. umbellatum ? There seems to be dozens of possibilities! To worsen the situation, all flowers appear to have faded since last week. - Alvesgaspar14:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info I was amazed by the beauty of this wild flower of common chicory when I took a walk this morning near my house. All three nominations of today are the result of that short walk. After every shot I'm more convinced that "recognizing beauty" is a major skill in photography, maybe more important than technique and good hardware. Created and nominated by Alvesgaspar --Alvesgaspar15:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Uhm, yeah, very profound. But while you walk around recognizing beauty it wouldn't hurt keeping the project scope in mind too. Flower pictures are more useful if the whole plant can be seen. This just as a side rant... --Dschwen16:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactely so. The scientific approach to Nature is to not the only one and probably not the most important for people coming here looking for flowers. That is true in general and also in which the Commons' project is concerned. Besides, everyone serves the project according to his capacities and preferences (you seem to have forgotten the wisdom of honourable Dr. Marx about the subject). Just imagine someone claiming that your building pictures, to be complete, should also emphasize the engineering details. - Alvesgaspar18:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Even if we assumed for a second that commons is based on a marxist philosophy, I still doubt that the honorable Dr. Marx would advocate tons of flower bud pictures among the FPs. Compared to their usefulness they are waaaaaay overrepresented. And as for the my building pictures, you got to give me some credit here, there is a little more variety in the pics I upload to commons than just building pictures. --Dschwen19:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well tons of flower pictures among FPs is a function of picky reviewers, not Alvesgaspar as a photographer. This image failed with a glorious total of 6 votes and this failed miserably, despite being sharp and of high quality, mostly because they were "boring". Oh and don't forget these images which got a whole two support votes including the nominator (myself) and no opposition. This image is a landmark: it's not just a small flower head, but leaves as well and should become a featured picture. Amazing. I'm not convinced that many reviewers even care about usefulness. At most it is secondary to other aspects. Your comment is misplaced and should be geared at the reviewers, not this photogapher. -- Ram-Man20:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken, I partially agree about the reviewer thing. But the nominatior takes some responsibility as well, especially if it is a self-nom. The reviewers only review whats presented to them. Non-self noms are a rarity (only 4 in the first 35 on this page, even less if you discount mutual courtesy nominations). Anywho, I suspect the new Meet the photographers thingie is a big incentive for even more self-noms now. I'm not saying its a bad thing per se, but the nominator definitely bears responsibility on what he presents as his share of allegedly the best work on commons. --Dschwen20:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If we're having side rants, I get criticized for citing project scope when I oppose low-resolution files. As for the point, trying to get a featured picture of a plant that doesn't have a flower is nearly impossible, even if it is technically flawless. Flower images like this *are* useful, because they show in detail the flower itself. A good encyclopedia article would have closeups of each important part (leaves, buds, flowers, stems, roots, etc...) while having another picture of the entire plant. As for featured pictures though, it's just not possible to get featured pictures of everything that a good article needs, due to current standards. A picture without some form of beauty (or anti-beauty on the other extreme) doesn't become a FP. -- Ram-Man18:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- The angle of the stem, somehow makes the flower look crooked and off center. The the background is not in focus, it is distracting. Further (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) there is no "wow" effect for me. {Charlessauer17:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC).}[reply]
Support I can't agree more with bit on "recognizing beauty". This is a beautiful image, and I don't seem to mind that it has a centered composition. It certainly doesn't hurt though that your camera can reproduce these blues much better than saturated yellow and red. -- Ram-Man15:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Oppose Its too small, and I don't think there are strong mitigating reasons for size. Could you upload a larger resolution? --Digon318:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Good picture, but I am just wondering if less centralised crop could be made for enhanced composition —the preceding unsigned comment is byThermos (talk • contribs)
Support Great photo, but I'm not too sure about the 'natural habitat' bit, they don't live in water like this or they'd have severe hoof rot problems, secondly this puddle includes a couple of submerged planks (machine sawn) in the right foreground. Where exactly was this shot taken? --Tony Wills13:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Once again i was wrong with the ID, but this time it was very close. The propper ID for this Critter is Thricops semicinereus, because of the feet. Shame on me. --Makro Freak23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support A complex illustration is quite a bit more work than a simple click on a camera :), particularly when its done well and with meticulousness --Makro Freak21:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question Are there any standards or guidelines for evaluating illustrations? I mean it looks complex, but lacks the "wow factor", but I don't know how an illustration even has a "wow factor". It's not really a picture either, it's an illustration. I would feel better about voting on an illustration if I had some idea how I should even go about evaluating it. -- Ram-Man16:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Looking at those that are FP: Highly detailed or photo realistic or animated, visually appealing, use colour well. Often of something familiar but showing detail not illustratable by a photograph. But there are about 20% that I think should be just QI, so what do I know? ;-) --Tony Wills09:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Numbered labels are hard to read and reduce de value of the illustration, translated versions exist for/from all interested parties. Lycaon10:02, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Again a quality image. I expect that the general public will, like me, be ignorant of what it is of (the image page description didn't help, but the categories it belonged to did), and hence will be puzzled but not wow'ed. --Tony Wills09:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Have to support my own. The work invested into this was substantial: both the research into the correctness of the image, and the drawing in pseudo 3D with all the different layers. Lycaon05:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - The picture is not geometrically clear for me. I don't understand the smaller cut "window" and its relation with the septum between segments and the orange structure at right (parapod?). Also, colours could be better; for example, the interior of the intestinal lumen should be darker. - Alvesgaspar14:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ii is a pity that we have no guidlines for illustrations. So i have to compare with other FP illustrations. This one is informative, it has no flaws, its clearly arranged and its superior to some allready featured illustrations. So for me it is a FP --Simonizer10:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Yes, that was the reason why I haven't nominated this pic here though its is already a FP in the English Wikipedia. But I thought it over and realized that they serve different purposes. The animation illustrates the use of the caliper and can only be seen in a computer display or data show, the individual images are too small and of poor quality to be printed. The svg file if a high quality image intended to illustrate the various parts of the instrument and to be printed. There is already a similar example of two FP pictures: Image:Using sextant swing.gif and Image:Marine sextant.svg - Alvesgaspar13:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's a pity to query this on the grounds that Alvesgaspar has done some similar excellent work in another format. The question should be "is this one of the best illustrations we have on Commons?" and the answer is yes. --MichaelMaggs09:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Definitely quality, but it's hard to get wow appeal into a picture of engineering tools. (Animation is one way though :-) --Tony Wills08:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Besides the things listed above, what's the educational value of this image? A (copyrighted?) statue in an arboretum seems only marginally useful. -- Ram-Man03:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- Cloning the people happened to be very easy. However, I don't know how to upload it with correct license and author information. If somebody knows how, and would like to upload it, I could send him the edited picture. I think it's worth it, it's a nice and valuable picture. Keta10:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info: Just upload the edited image with a similar file name, copy the image description and replace the source section of the template by “Photograph by Mila Zinkova, edited by Keta”. --norro11:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info This is an edited version, without people, which I think benefits the picture. Thanks to norro for the guidelines for uploading it correctly. Keta16:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral There appear to be dust spots at various places on this image. Also, it's either noisy or oversharpened in a way that accents the noise. A few weeks ago, I might have said this was great, but we've had some really high quality insect images recently, so I think it's acceptable to desire a higher quality image technically. It has the wow factor. If the dust spots are removed, I'd change to support, but it probably won't matter. -- Ram-Man04:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Understand your point of view. I dont like doing pixel manipulations on my own pictures. About file size: i think 1600 pixels are enough for online usage. --Makro Freak13:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I still have to chuckle when reading the info line.
WeakSupport A pretty good picture. Unlike many similar shots this on actually has a person in there which gives a great sense of scale. I only wished it was a bit sharper. --Dschwen15:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support based on this image alone. I don't have time to look for better compositions of this subject. Show them to me and I'll consider changing my vote. The person in this shot is vital to its success, as I had no idea the scale of these dunes. Also, looks good at 2MP. -- Ram-Man04:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's not any type of plant or animal, for sure. In case anyone asks, I didn't crop out the upper left corner because it adds interest through contrasting elements and scale. Also, I corrected for barrel distortion from the wide-angle lens used, but made no attempt to adjust the perspective distortion inherent to such wide angles of view, since that's the whole point of this image. -- Ram-Man16:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The angles of the paves seem red (may someone remember me the physical term ?) and the image does not have a so good "psychedelic" effect. Sorry --Alipho18:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think you probably mean the reddish color fringing, or chromatic abberation? I replaced the old image with a new one to try and combat the effect. I think it looks a bit better now. -- Ram-Man19:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm not sure how to use this image to illustrate wide angle lens distortion. But I like it, the whole surface looks like a hill whose top is the centre of the pattern. Once again aesthetics prevails over objective value... Alvesgaspar20:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Almost every (and maybe all?) picture I nominate is used in at least one article, even if just a stub. I used this one in en:Paver (flooring), but it could be useful in other places perhaps. -- Ram-Man00:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the only problem i see is the drain, have you tried cropping out the top left corner a bit so that the centre of the circle is in the frame, but the drain is removed. Chris huh11:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have, and I really didn't like the look. It's probably a personal artistic type of thing, but I think it looked monotonous without it. I uploaded a cropped version. -- Ram-Man12:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, but for me, it is not aesthetically pleasing, there is no wow factor, and the manhole is disturbing. --Digon313:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I really like how you are being drawn by the repetitive pattern to the contrast of the manhole cover MichaD16:50, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I prefer the other one because the manhole cover adds contrast, interest, and balance to the scene, but this one is alright. -- Ram-Man12:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose While this is a well exposed sharp flower photo I fail to see a wow factor. The light isn't all too favorable as well. -- MichaD14:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Direct sunlight can increase contrast (improving depth perception and detail) in the whites, like in this image by Tony Wills. I used a fill flash to balance out the harsh shadows. -- Ram-Man14:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While it's true that the petals benefit from the contrasty light the dark shadow beneath the blossom distracts me. A reflector could probably have helped there. -- MichaD15:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As a guest of the garden I was at, being the only one with a tripod also made me a bit of a freak. I can only imagine what a reflector would make me look like. Thanks for the advice though, as I had never really even considered this as an option. -- Ram-Man16:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I don't see the point, for me the white texture of the flower (even with the mild shadow) is the most beatiful thing in the picture. - Alvesgaspar23:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Wrong composition and framing. Flower should be at the left side of the image (this way it seems to be escaping form the photo) and the picture should show a little more of green. A shame, because the flower is beatiful and technical quality excellent. - Alvesgaspar21:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too dark on the important elements, too bright elsewhere. If only they were reversed. What's amazing is that you just can't find high quality pictures like this (and many others) anywhere else on the internet and yet this is still not good enough. -- Ram-Man22:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There are dust spots, but those could be removed. More importantly, the 1/500 was not enough to stop the moving boat, and as a result it is blurry. With a proper focus on the boat, this could have been shot with a larger aperture to increase the shutter speed. At this distance, less DoF would have been a great tradeoff to cut the movement blur. Dust spots are also less visible at larger apertures, FWIW. -- Ram-Man03:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Way below the 2MP (1600x1200) resolution guideline. It's too noisy and unsharp anyway, even if the extreme magnification is a sufficient mitigating factor. -- Ram-Man13:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: too small. Images of less than 2Mpx are not normally approved here, even where they are of excellent quality. --Simonizer19:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: too small. Images of less than 2Mpx are not normally approved here, even where they are of excellent quality. --MichaelMaggs16:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Oppose Not only small size, but poor composition, frogs are minimum size compared with the rest of picture --Karelj20:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support You'ld have to change the file name afterwards, though: it is an Oedemera lurida, fam. Oedemeridae, a common palaearctic species. -- Lycaon05:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Semi-Ack Fir, the size and quality of the main subject (it is the beetle per the caption, right?) is unsatisfactory for a featured picture. Composition is average (too much dead space on the bottom for my liking), but the soft lighting is actually a pro point, no blown-out highlights and harsh shadows. --Dschwen12:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is one of those cases that I would oppose this if it was a QI becaue the head of the beetle is unsharp. However, I disagree with Fir on this because of what I believe to be the "wow factor": The lighting is great, the contrast between the light and dark browns and the green is classical (except for the "distracting" top right light brown diagonal bar), and I think the framing is a strong feature because it emphasises the small size of the bug relative to the plant and the surroundings. (NOTE: There are FPs of similarly unsharp subjects that have more prominance than this one: this image for example)-- Ram-Man13:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's not the same picture, so it could be a different nomination. I support both, although version 1 is better. -- Ram-Man13:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Until the flower is identified (after that support of course!). It features more prominently than the Oedemera. Lycaon 14:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC) flower IDed Lycaon05:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info - To Ram-Man: I don't want to flood the FPC archive with various pictures of the same species, that's why I did it this way. To Lycaon: I think it is a Calendula arvensis, but it is hard to be sure, there are several species alike (And I'm not a botanist) - Alvesgaspar15:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Right on target! The leaves I collected are exactely those of Yellow Chamomile (as well as the relative size and number of petals). Here it is a photo of the leaves. I'm changing the info, thanks a lot- Alvesgaspar16:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not Calendula arvensis, nor Senecio aureusand most likely not Anthemis tinctoria (and it's not in my book on mediterranean flora :-(). The jury is still out on this one... Can you provide us with a picture of the leaves? Lycaon15:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I see no VALUE in the image. We have way too many similar images.--Mbz1 05:02, 3 June 2007(UTC) Sorry, the voting period is over - Alvesgaspar10:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Uhm, yeah, but this is not exactly a unique key moment. Plus people seem to forget that an oppose on FPC doesn't mean the picture is crap, but merely that is is not one of the very best pictures. Shure not every nature pic has to be perfect, but this is not about nature pictures, it is about featured pictures! --Dschwen14:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
... absolutely agree with you and welcome the exciting procedure to find out which is a FP or not. I like to read all the different opinions of the voters which sometimes makes me laughing or contemplative. Spoken for me, is that this pictures are donations and formerly used for describing things in Wikipedia. If a writer is searching for photographic content he will be very happy if he can find a detailed, crispy and enlightend picture like this. Surely it will be great if the bird will raise his head, doing some never seen before emotions but for a Taxo picture as a example this is great. You are a (really good :) ) photographer but your opinion differs a lot from a writer. Maybe iam wrong because of beeing new to Wikimedia, but for me Wikimedia isnt Tony Stone, thats why i like it. --Makro Freak16:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I agree it would better with a more favourable lighting but the picture is still very good, the detail in the head is not afected Alvesgaspar22:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very nice technique at maintaining the whites through underexposure. The shadows are fine and make the image look natural. -- Ram-Man04:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info added a slight edit with more lighning on the birds left side (right side for the observer), plus popped the background a bit, plus Macrofreak sharpening --Makro Freak18:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Its is nice in thumb size but the flaws are clearly visible when we enlarge it. There is little detail in the white body of the bird: the lighted part looks overexposed and the darker part is noisy. - Alvesgaspar22:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info I would crop to remove the intrusive vertical pole. A closer crop on the plane, plus the parts of the image to the left would create a better composition IMO. --MichaelMaggs17:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've just tried it, but unfortunately the image is too small to crop to the extent I would like and still fall within the FP resolution guidelines. --MichaelMaggs17:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info I'm nominationg this picture because of the unusual and beautifual colour contrast between the delicate white, blue and green of the Convolvulus arvensis wild flower and the saturated red of the tiny velvet mites (Trombidium spec.). A third species (the beetle) is still unidentified. Created and nominated by Alvesgaspar--Alvesgaspar15:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Certainly better than the original version, but I preferred the original background where you can still make out that it's grass --Tony Wills20:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, because I think there was photoshopping done to this image to make the grass so blurry... while I don't mind that in itself, it needs to be disclosed on the page. gren06:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think this was photoshopped. It's different than the previous version (which was not featuerd): this one is shot with a Canon 30D, the other one with an Olympus. With a 100mm macro lens at F9 you can get this kind of background. --Atoma07:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - if I'm not mistaken, the subject of the image is barbed wire, and the blurred background therefore entirely appropriate. Samsara12:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Very nice subject, but it's either blurry, soft, and/or out of focus. It should be much sharper at this resolution. There are some weird chromatic effects. -- Ram-Man03:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - This is a real difficult subject (I've tried it quite often) and the result shows it: the lighting of the flowers is not good (a fill-in flash might be a solution in these conditions), the picture is blurry and grainy, and some chromatic aberration /purple fringing) is clearly visible. - Alvesgaspar17:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I knew someone would say that :) Except for the lighting, the major defects are only visible above 4MP. If you downsample the image to 1800x2400 (4MP), the noise and grain mostly disappear. Should I upload a downsampled version? 4MP is well above the 2MP base requirement and I think that the composition and beauty compensate for the lighting. Just my opinion. -- Ram-Man18:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Its hard to do the splits. The white blossoms and the white clouds, a very difficult motif. More light on the blossoms and there is no more contrast to the clouds ... Remember the place and go there when you have a homogenious blue sky, that will be a burner! --Makro Freak22:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Is a higher resolution image available? For such a highly textured landscape the extra resolution is much desired. -- Ram-Man16:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Overexposed and very little color contrast. This has a rather weak, undefinable "wow factor" for me as well. While not an opposition reason (but perhaps a reason not to support), I'd prefer more resolution for more detail. -- Ram-Man17:18, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a composition. It is a real life drama and a rare shot. Those are not preserved specimens, but real underwater amazing wildlife in their natural habitat. -- Mbz105:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Technically, the picture is not underwater, but breaking the surface, which aids in the confusing composition. It is a rare shot, because this is not the anemone's standard food, but a chance catch and so rather an anecdotical picture. Lycaon05:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The composition is unclear (and all photographs involve composition). The quality is not high enough. Some of the elements are blurred and there are overexposed spectral highlights. This may be educational (if identified), but it's not of high enough quality for a FP. -- Ram-Man17:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I knew that the picture will be opposed. The idea of nominating the picture was not to make it a featured picture, but to have more people to look at it and maybe learn something new. I'm a strong believer that Wikipedia should be l a learning tool and not a photo contest of high quality pictures. The thing is that some subjects are easier to see and to photograph than others, but does it mean that we should future dozens of sharp butterflies at sharp flowers pictures and no single and unique anemone picture?--Mbz118:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
It is not just any rocks and shells. These rocks and shells were placed there by the anemone itself to camouflage its adhesive foot. Looks like the anemone did its job very well. If everybody is confused, it means that all predators and prey will be confused too and the anemone will do just fine. --21:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)Mbz1
I'm really sorry that me, the anemone and the jellyfish have confused everybody. Next time I'll make sure to tell an anemone and a jellyfish to take their fight in less confusing "composition". Mbz114:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your "Oppose", Ram-Man. If I do not see one on my picture, I really believe there's something wrong with it. Mbz114:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Yes, quite impressive. But there are at least two clear stitching errors: one at the left foreground chair and desk and another, less obvious, at right. Alvesgaspar10:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Stiching errors are minor, after 1 minute I couldn't find them. Even after reading Alvesgaspar's comments I could barely see them. Great photo. --Atoma15:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for stitching errors only. It's a good image, but in a panorama any stitching errors shouldn't be visible when evaluated at my standard evaluation criteria. I'd support if the stitching errors were fixed sufficiently. -- Ram-Man18:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose stitching errors. That one that Alvesgaspar mentioned and at the left and the rigt side of the roof. Just follow the lines of the bordure and you will see it. --Simonizer07:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Perhaps only 2 little spots (drops?) to remove at the bottom of your picture. --LucaG 20:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC) vote moved to the edited version --LucaG08:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The noise is visible at 2MP and the shadows are underexposed. I find the foreground tree distracting. The whole image has a "murky" feel. Although I wouldn't oppose for this reason, the reflections are a tad cliche. I like images like this, this, or especially this. -- Ram-Man04:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Saliva. The thing in the chicks beak is the food piece (not identified yet) that was just passed over by the adult bird. --Dschwen06:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
He he, yeah, I'd have removed that sticker, but I did'nt want to get too close to the nesting box. The picture was taken at a student dorm where a majority of forestry students live. --Dschwen08:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Composition, I don't think the sign fits with the image. The text itself is also quite controversial to the upper part of the image ("Hunting is nature conservation") -- Gorgo13:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the advertsiment text fits the bird scene somehow. Blue tits hunt insects that otherwise would damage trees (thought the tit itself may damage the tree as well in its search of prey). Humans who hunt herbivores might somehow identify themselves with an insectivorous bird. Anyway, I agree the message is controversial. Would you support to feature this pic if the advert was blurred or if the lower part was cropped out? --Javier ME16:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support If only you could have gotten closer and/or used a smaller aperture for more DoF. But this is really good anyway. -- Ram-Man01:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What disturbs me is the geometrical pattern and the strong contrasts in the background. But it should be enough to say that this picture is short of perfection, giving the abilities of the photographer and the possibility of repeating the shot. Not promoting this picture now is clarly better than delisting it later, a practise that I don't normallt approve. - Alvesgaspar18:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Added a slight Edit --Makro Freak15:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Did i ever told that i was a special effects supervisor for the entertainment industry in my old career ? I sweard after my retreat (because of a burnout syndrome) that i never ever will touch any postproduction tools in my life, but rather take my husky and enjoy life. Today i broke with that :( because of the loving swans :) :) :) [reply]
Comment You are really a special effects supervisor to me but you forgot a bit of swan in the bottom right corner. --LucaG16:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support For the fixed version Oppose There's a seam instead of a oof swan now, did you copy that from another pic? The new part seems to have more feather detail. MichaD16:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This seems incredibly cruel considering the sterling job you've done of cutting out that scene stealing foreground swan ... but the reflection is not right, right most reflection is blurred and bits that were on the right side of that neck are now gone (If you can't fix it I might vote support anyway, because I wouldn't know the difference if I'd not seen the original :-) --Tony Wills11:48, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, but this image is not worth the deceit. This amount of digital manipulation sould be strongly discouraged. As per project scope commons still is a repository for wikimedia projects, which largely (by usage) are encyclepedic in nature. --Dschwen11:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I fail to see any deceit here, one out of focus foreground element was removed (like perhaps removing a distracting grass stem from a photo of a blackbird). The picture appears to be showing courtship behaviour (together with other versions on its image page), quite encyclopaedic and the heart shape between them adds interest. --Tony Wills12:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question The two vertical areas look to me like reflections of the bird edges, I do expect to see some discontinuity there. Which detail do I miss noticing that would show these to be edit seams?--Klaus with K12:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Ram-Man. You should try again this summer. It looks like a good place to make pictures of E. vugare. -- Lycaon20:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delist The foreground right element is blurry. It is much less encyclopedic and useful because of the unnatural angle and geometric tilt. If "wow factor" comes up, the reddish tinge (even if natural) in the windows is very distracting. Lastly, the low resolution doesn't win any bonus points. -- Ram-Man13:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delist lacks usefulness. The foreground elements are more disturbing than helpful. The colors look unnaturally saturated. We have better sunsets for encyclopedic purposes. -- Ram-Man01:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support In general cases, panorama pictures should follow the guidelines as well as others. We can understand a panorama FP has lees than 1000 pixles of verticla resolution, but then horizontal res should compense it. In this case, total resolution is below 2,000,000, but it can be mitigated since its a 1910 photo. --Javier ME16:18, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Vertical resolution way beyond mitigation. At this resolution quality cannot be assessed, so FP is not an option (neither is QI). Lycaon16:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Vertical resolution should be at least 800px. There are some mitigating reasons for a historical photo, but 400px is just too little. --Digon318:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose To accept a photo with the smallest side at 400px, even a panorama, it has to be something extremely special to compensate. This is nice, sure, but not that special. -- Ram-Man01:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Don't get me wrong, I love shots like this and think the composition isn't that bad at all (the blue sky saves it), but the backlighting on the flowers doesn't look good at all. I'm not sure that a fill flash would have helped either. -- Ram-Man00:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support At full size the fire fighter on the right is not perfectly focused, but this image has a very high resolution and works terribly well at medium sizes. --Javier ME15:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think this image highlights any army activities in particular. Those firefighters could've been from any commercial airport as well. -- MichaD16:09, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Very few firefighters in the world are part of a military branch. There are tons of volontary people too, helping everyday civil workers. And in most armies, there are no personnal trained for fighting fires. Verdy p22:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Lack of focus on firefighters give poor resolution. This is even worse because of light saturation within grays (look at those plain white areas onthe heads, look at the lack of shadows within the grey uniforms). The front is also distracting, too much in focus. The composition does not show really their work, what is burning, and what they are using to fight the fire. The only subject is the flames to make the image artificially impressive (but the flames are finally completely out of focus and don't even need a so high resolution as they are completely blurred)! Verdy p22:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Beautiful POV and composition. Strangely (8 Mb file!! → overprocessed??) low quality image full of artifacts (e.g. see forest in background and pavement all around). Lycaon16:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Very good composition but poor quality. Apparently this picture was ruined by post-processing, which is a shame. Alvesgaspar08:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the picture looks strange when looked at real size. It's like an oil painting (but the effect is very slight). So lika Alvesgaspar I think there is a problem with post processing. Benh11:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeEdit. The edit is crap (sorry) it blows a lot of detail for a superficially sexy look. I also resized the thumbnails for fairness (before the resizing the original had an old unsharpened thumbnail and the edit had a thumbnail generated with the new settings which sharpen the thumbnails). --Dschwen 08:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Vote of Dschwen splitted between the two versions - Alvesgaspar09:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think this would be better taken during the day, or at least taken without the pond. The weird lighting on the plants is really disturbing. --Digon320:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose For a wide angle shot, some distortion is acceptable. This distortion is ok because it is well balanced/symmetrical. However, to quote the guidelines: "nightshots are pretty but normally more details can be shown on pictures taken at daytime". I realize a pretty picture like this has a "wow", but I'd rather have useful and with a nice daytime sky or even a sunset. The lighting here is unnatural. -- Ram-Man00:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am pretty sure that you can remove distortions only on single frames. This is a stitched panorama, and while it would be mathematically possible to remove the distortion, it would warp the outline of the image requiring severe cropping. If someone knows a free/OSS tool that can do this without manually measuring all the parameters, please give me a hint, thx! --Jan Drewes (www.jandrewes.de) 15:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Info When you look at the image in full size, and you scroll from left to right, you can see the landscape as if you were there instead of the camera. Modifying perspective would make the image look unnatural when seen in the above conditions. --Atoma11:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm sure that the left and right images were tilted to make them fit with the central image, and the result is an image that looks as if the camera was not only rotating horizontally, but also vertically at the same time. The circle effect that affects the horizontals comes from the making up of the panorama, not from the original photos. Also, it's clear that color saturation was increased by manual edit (this edit of color saturation was excessive here!) The image is no more illustrative, but looks too much like an articial studio paint for a movie of the 1950's or the kind of colors that were initially added to old black and white films: too much artificial. So the articifial circular distortion of forms (sort of fish-eye effect) must be canceled, as well as the oversaturation of colors. Verdy p21:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Composition, angle and doesn't really have a "wow" factor. It would have been better if taken more to the right. --Digon320:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info This was marked as FP, although it was its predecessor that was evaluated, so thought it should be evaluated, and the FP tag moved from the old version if this one is successful --Tony Wills10:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Sharpness is always one of the challenges in night shots, and this one is not really very sharp at full res. On the other hand, I like the nice composition and the general atmosphere -- MJJR14:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Practically the same picture was on this page on 7. April and was successful. I do not see any reason for repeating of voting for picture taken probably form the very near place in the same time. Isn´t one evaluation enough?? --Karelj20:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; the image is too noisy, as it was said. Maybe taking the image few minutes before with more sunlight could help it a bit. --Aktron20:26, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I support replacing the old FP with this one, although I don't feel all that strongly one way or the other. -- Ram-Man00:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too many distracting reflections on water (the subject is lost, it is no more the skyline but a demo about colored reflections on water). The existing featured image is much more ilustrative without these artificial effects that are really abusive here, and at the cost of a much lower quality with more noise! Verdy p21:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose We can't feature every NASA photo, and this one is clearly does not have the same wow factor or even technical quality that some others have. -- Ram-Man00:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeSupport The Orion Nebula is one of the more famous ones, so it is clearly useful, perhaps more than many others. This picture is beautiful as well. -- Ram-Man00:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral This is beautiful, but I like this one a little better and they both seem to show the center of the milky way (but I could be wrong). -- Ram-Man00:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
* Comment The two images are displaying the same thing, but in very different ways. In the current featured picture, the core is the main focus of the picture, not really too much else. This picture does exemplify the core very well, but it could also exemplify interstellar gas, nebulas, and, of course, stars. This picture shows a lot more than just the core, and should be judged upon as so. Imaninjapirate15:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hmmm... on a second look of the other one I suppose the other does show all the things I mentioned. Never mind.
Oppose IHMO this picture has no quality for FP. There are thousands of similar space pictures from NASA source and I think, that here should apear mostly works of our wikipedists and only exceptionally pictures from some space agency. --Karelj19:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, when a picture is overexposed like this, it loses details that cannot be recovered with any amount of editing. It happens to almost everyone, and the only thing you can do is retake the picture. --Digon302:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: seriously overexposed. Sorry. --MichaelMaggs21:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: normally expected that images showing plants are fully identified, and also that they have a descriptive file name. --MichaelMaggs21:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: overexposed, and the composition doesn't really bring out the subject. --MichaelMaggs21:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Info Vey seldom I propose an image to be delisted, but this one seems to be a clear error of judjement. The compression was so extreme that the sky looks like a mosaic of artifacts. This picture is a bad publicity to its author, one of our best creators. Initial nomination is hereAlvesgaspar20:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it was selected almost two years ago. And it still is a pretty impressive picture. I don't know if I had the nerve to create a pano of a sight this stunning. Anyways it was probably pushing the limits of his equipment so I wouldn't really call it bad publicity. The resolution (with respect to sharpness) is fairly low though. So I guess I'll go with a reluctantDelist . I'd like to hear fir's stand on the delist though. Was he notified? --Dschwen20:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. Thanks first off to Dschwen for notifying me. And yes you're right it was really pushing my equipment and myself to get the images and I still rank this is one my best photographs! Far from bad publicity!! I've uploaded an edit with NR (I didn't have any noise reduction software back when I first uploaded the image) which should address issues of "extreme compression" aka noise. Personally I would really be sad to see this as being unworthy of FP status - this is the aurora! The holy grail of photography! --Fir0002www00:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question - I find it a bit too noisy for ISO 400 of a Canon 20D. Canon has a very little noise on ISO 400. Anyway, I think it's a good photo but because I'm not sure if that's the best possible, I prefer not to vote. --Arad01:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If someone fixes the white balance, we can keep this as a FP. Maybe perform some anti-jpeg compression noise reduction as well. -- Ram-Man16:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You may compare with a new edited version on the right (denoised and lighter, and rectangle completely filled without the small bright triangles; I make it visible by adding a thin black border around the two images). It's difficult to denoise it due to low contrasting lines. I had to keep the person in the center and the display panels. Please override this new version if you can do something better. Verdy p02:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, size is low, but the comparison to the other pic is bogus. This pic shows the berries on the plant, with context. The other FP shows a heap of plucked berries. --Dschwen18:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The comparison was such that if we delist this, we at least have another picture of raspberries, albiet of different context. Personally I don't buy arguments to not delist because we don't have another legitimate alternative. We don't use that logic for normal FP noms. The main reason to delist is the size. It's just nice to know that we at least have one other raspberry FP. When the raspberries in my yard form in a few weeks, I'll be sure to take some similar pictures. -- Ram-Man18:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You found my hidden noms. I wasn't sure I'd submit this picture because it's my favorite picture (looks splendid printed at 11x14 and iridescent (real) on metallic paper) and I didn't want to suffer through opposition because it's "cliche" or some other typical response. The Monarch Butterfly article is one of the best illustrated articles, complete with an image lifecycle, that the english wikipedia has, IMO. -- Ram-Man14:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'm always fooled by the blotchiness of the wing patterns with Monarchs. The only thing that almost really made me vote neutral was the cut petal. For the rest the picture is very good. -- Lycaon05:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Removed sensor dust spots, noise reduction, sharpened, contrast enhancement. I can modify it again if any of these changes are not desired or if brighter petals are desired. -- Ram-Man02:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I removed dust spots on the green background and a single large dark spot of a minor petal, because it was large enough to be a dust spot (though I wasn't totally sure about that one). I didn't think it would be a big deal one way or another.
Support I'll support my own edit, or another similar edit, so long as the dust spots are removed and it looks a little less murky. I'm not even sure if I love my own edit, but I didn't want to go crazy brightening it up either. -- Ram-Man12:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Please include the necessary license template as well as some information about the subject and a proper categorization. Otherwise the nomination will be closed in a short time. Alvesgaspar22:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: missing the necessary licence template and full subject information. The image needs to be propely classified, too. --MichaelMaggs15:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: it is of poor photographic quality and no category or information about the species is given - Alvesgaspar08:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Support I love how the wind is blowing the sand, but I wish there was a human element to give this a sense of scale. -- Ram-Man12:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Done. I've just uploaded 2 more shots of that moment. One with a man on the same dune and another one with people walking on the ridge ahead (different angle of light). I do prefer the candidate one with moving dune but feel free to candidate every one ;-) Take a look to the 2nd row of my gallery to see the whole sequence. --LucaG22:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This one's a bit of a punt. I think the individual images are nice, and that putting them together like this 'tells a story'. I'm aware that the resulting image is large, and for once, I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm open to suggestions on cropping, and downsampling, or anything else. There are two other images I could swap in instead, in Image:Turtle preparing to lay 6481.JPG and Image:Turtle preparing to lay 6483.JPG. However, I don't think 6481 forms such a good composition, and 6483 would require a bit of editing to repair the unfortunate cropping at the back of the turtle. --Ben Aveling13:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not fit for FP. The images are too similar, there is no eyecatcher. This might be good for a smaller GIF animation if you have a more or less continuous series. -- Lycaon21:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The photo was taken at en:Heron Island, Australia, which normally gets Loggerheads and Greens. Now, I'm not sure I personally could tell the difference but the photo was taken during the day, which pretty much rules out the Greens, as far I understand it's almost unheard of them to lay during the day. While the Loggerheads prefer to lay at night, they do also sometimes lay during the day. And she wasn't small. Here's a more close up picture of the poor lady. Why do you think she's an Olive Ridley? Regards, Ben Aveling13:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
CommentCarapax dont look like Caretta's (color, form of the head) and it's taken during the day. If it's not an olivacea, it's perhaps a natator depressus, this kid of hole for nesting is typic and north of Gladstone is a nesting site for them. If you have -even bad quality- of prefrontals depressus, olivacea and caretta (NC french says "big head" for Caretta) 86.76.216.74, thanks 14:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You're right that she's not a loggerhead. She has "4 paires d'ecailes costales, la premier paire n'est pas en contact avec l'ecaile nucale" which describes 'natator depressus' but also describes greens (Image:Chelonia.svg). As per the pages you list, Olivacea and Caretta each have at least 5 pairs of scales down the side, the front pair of which touch the scale above the neck. So she's neither of those. I guess I can't rule out 'natator depressus' but given that the location is known for greens, I'm pretty sure she's a green turtle (Chelonia mydas). Thanks, Ben Aveling23:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think the shallow DoF works in favor of this subject. The important elements are sharp and illustrative and the rest are not distracting. It's beautiful when taken as a whole. -- Ram-Man13:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Looks good at thumbnail level but at full res the DOF is way too shallow - should have been shot at least f/11 - 5.6 was just asking for trouble IMO. --Fir0002www22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm afraid I'm with Fir0002 on this; sorry. A good picture, but could have been great had the DoF been enough to show all or at least more of the strands in focus. --MichaelMaggs19:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral This one doesn't wow me like other NASA pictures. The only other spiral galaxy FP is Image:NGC 1672 HST.jpg, which has more of a "wow factor", but has an unfortunate lower resolution. -- Ram-Man14:29, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support The technical quality of space images is given in its resolution and number of colors or shades it supports. The image CAN'T be impressive by composition, because it would result in FALSE (non-scientific) information. So even colors can't be changed without scientific justification. There are still no illustration for this spiral galaxy, and we need such images for Wikimedia projects. Verdy p21:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Anyway, recoloring using warmer colors would not be too detrimental to the scientific value of the image, if done correctly (but be careful when saving with digital artefacts because this is a lossy JPEG format; edits should be performed in lossless PNG formats for tests at various resolutions, only to prepare illustrations e.g. for an article!). Don't add any artistic effects when editing such high-quality images (the original is ALWAYS the best to keep, even if it does not look impressive). Verdy p21:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info The Bavaria statue (German just 'Bavaria') is a bronze-cast statue of a female figure representing Bavaria's "secular patron saint", the Tellus (Mater) Bavarica ("goddess of the land of Bavaria"), located at the border of the Theresienwiese in Munich, Bavaria, Germany, where the Oktoberfest takes place each September.
Comment Its not illuminated, plus there are plenty pictures during daylight. I like it the most at night. Its somewhat crowded during the day because its one of the main attractions in munich. --Makro Freak21:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This picture would be much better in daylight. IMO night pictures should only be used for cityscapes. --Digon321:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It's purely a matter of taste. <-- Have a look :) During Daytimes its not possible to see the detailed sculptures in the building because the roof casts a shadow to the hallway. There was a complex planning, before taking this very detailed picture--Makro Freak21:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This time I don't agree with the opposers and think that the guidelines can't be applied blindly. The iluminated statue and building are a subject by itself and the picture has an excellent quality and a nice composition. Alvesgaspar22:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The example daylight image isn't very good, but that's also no reason to support this one. This shot, like so many others, would likely be better taken either around dawn or dusk for less contrasty lighting. It would be a good tradeoff between a nighttime and daytime shot. Maybe if this was a shot of just the statue I'd be more inclined to support. -- Ram-Man00:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think it's technically good, but too dark, and there's a hard to miss stitching error on right part of the building. Benh09:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Which one were you refering to? I have found about 15 hard to miss stitching errors which I have highlighted in my upload. I was unsure what info and licensing to put on the image so I just left it blank, it will be deleted soon and I don't suppose it matters since it has no use beyond this discussion?--Benjamint44410:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC) (I am not against the image, just the errors.)[reply]
Comment Brief technical background info: This image has been composed from 24 images using different angles and exposures. The stitching had to be done manually to remove multiple foreground objects. If you only see stitching errors on pixel level, the goal has been achieved. --Digitaldreamer23:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
NO, most are visible at 100% and the two largest ones are visible without zooming in at all. The pillar that I circled has two left edges at different angles And there is a huge smear to the right of that which I have circled. IMO nothing can justify such a large number of flaws and a much better job of the stitching could be made, or you could have cloned out those lines to an invisible level with ease. --Benjamint44400:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The stitching first sufferts from parallax errors and then from poor transitions where these occur. Maybe use different software which does not give image ghosts. Editing with gimp after the stitch could repair some of the damage.--Klaus with K21:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeNeutral The lighting isn't great and the iris isn't species identified. I'd like a little more sharpness too. It's quite difficult to get good iris shots: because of the 3-dimensional nature of these flowers, a very small aperture must be used to acheive sufficient DoF, which results in distracting (natural) backgrounds (either requiring blurring in post-processing or just accepting it). Getting the color "right" is also near impossible since they look very different under different lighting conditions. The color is very nice on this one. -- Ram-Man19:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One can see each and every hair around tiger's mouth as well as many separate hairs inside the tiger's ears. Is it what you call "out of focus"? This is a rhetorical question. No reply is needed.-- Mbz122:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Oppose - Yes, we can see the hair inside the tiger's ears but they are indeed out of focus, as well as the whole animal. Alvesgaspar01:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The tiger's hunting posture is greatly captured. I think we could accept how the mouth is focused -it might be starting a movement when captured, but as Alvesgaspar pointed, even the ear hairs are out of focus. Besides, the crop above its back is too tight while there is a wide background at its sides. Great photo, not FP --Javier ME08:00, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I believe you are right. Now I do see that the hairs in the tiger's ears are out of focus. Sorry I took your time.Mbz114:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Quality is still too low and like Mbz1 would say: i can see No VALUE in this picture cause there are allready better tiger pictures available at wikimedia (second part of comment is meant to be ironical) --Simonizer13:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Though I don't think the composition is unoriginal, I don't like it. The flower is tilted and I think it would be better centered with a better crop. --Digon313:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support In fact, this is an excellent picture: good lighting, great DoF, perfect colors, and with encyclopedic relevance. It's tilted: so what? A lot of flowers in nature are just tilted. And what do you mean with 'unoriginal composition'? There are no many different manners to make a good picture of a flower! I agree with Digon3 and propose to crop the left side of the picture, although by doing so, it will be more 'classic' and even more 'unoriginal' in composition... -- MJJR19:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This picture was intended to solve the problems of this nomination where the flower was pointed to the outside of the picture, rather than the inside. In this picture the orientation of the cone was criticized because it didn't match reality. As for composition, there are many ways to show off an iris. No one way is correct since you can't show the entire flower in one picture. Cropping the picture (which is fine) will make it less compliant with the Rule of Thirds, making it, as you say, "unoriginal". -- Ram-Man19:46, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Not only the flower is tilted but also the leaves, which gives a clear sensation of tilt. I really don't understand why the picture cannot be rotated, since it is such a beautiful colour composition. Alvesgaspar21:31, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See the example of the entire plant. The flowers (and leaves) tilt in all directions. You can see in the nominated picture that the leaves on the left are leaning left and the ones on the right are leaning right. Rotating would be possible, but there shouldn't be any reason to require it, since it naturally tilts. Some of the "tilt" isn't tilt at all, but the angle that the picture was taken at. I have iris pictures from different angles, but I like this particular one. -- Ram-Man21:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is ultra-sharp, colors are perfect, and this looks more like an iris flower than the iris flowers in my garden! What else can we ask for? Berrucomons21:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeAll Versions Very unnatural looking as a result of the gaussian blur - the flower head is just floating there with no visible stem --Fir0002www02:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The stem was barely visible in the original, due to the angle that the image was taken at. It blends right into the background. You might as well say any photo is unnatural because it doesn't show infinite DoF. I took a version of this picture at f/2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, and 16. The background (including the stem) looks almost exactly like it does in the f/5.6 or f/8 image. The only difference between this image and the f/5.6 image is that all the petals are sharp. Would the f/5.6 image be acceptable as a FP? I doubt it. It's a photograph, it can't reproduce reality exactly. This picture is about the flower, not the stem. Its an f/16 foreground with a f/5.6 - f/8 background. I could reprocess the picture to keep the stem just a little bit less blurred, but it wouldn't really make much difference in the overall effect and it likely wouldn't change the outcome of a FP nom. -- Ram-Man03:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Couldn't you just upload an original unblurred image? I'm sorry but it looks very unnatural. And that's certainly not saying that a lack of infinite DOF is unrealistic, because for starters the eye doesn't have infinite DOF, and a picture taken at f/5.6 etc (not an aperture for macro) will have a natural gradation between in focus and out of focuse. This does not. --Fir0002www09:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeNeutral- The reason of the tilt is well explained in the picture of the whole plant, at right. But not in either of the nominated versions, which look unnatural. Alvesgaspar00:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean? The tilt of the flower matches the tilt of the leaves, which is shown in the whole plant as well. The only difference is the closeup view. -- Ram-Man00:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That is precisely the problem, if the leaves were straight then people would realize that the flower was indeed not vertical. This way it looks as if the camera was tilted. Alvesgaspar01:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why should a picture not be a FP because people make assumptions about it? There are two conclusions one can make: the camera was titled or the subject matter was tilted. Obviously the flower was tilted, but people making the wrong assumption out of ignorance is no reason to oppose. If it was rotated, they would make the wrong conclusion the flower wasn't tilted. Which is the bigger crime? Also, on the uncropped version you can see that while most leaves tilt to the right (since this was the right side of the plant), some of the leaves tilt to the left. It's only confusing if you don't pay close enough attention to detail. -- Ram-Man03:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I've changed my vote to neutral (for now, still waiting for common sense to prevail) because of the exquisite colour and texture of the flower, and despite the unfortunate tilt. Looking at a photo of a beautiful flower is not an intelectual exercise, either we get "wowed" or we don't. - Alvesgaspar09:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - An explanation about the lack of VALUE of this (and other) pictures is welcome. This is certainly one the best Commons pictures of this particular species (BTW, there are hundered of thousand of vegetal species in nature) Alvesgaspar18:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I believe that Wikipedia is not a botanical encyclopedia and I believe it would be too specific, if Wikipedia dispayed "hundered of thousand of vegetal species in nature" on its pages. This particulal image shows a very, very common flower and that's why I see no VALUE in the image.--19:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1
This picture is currently nominated as a featured picture on the Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. The two projects have different guidelines as to what qualifies as a FP. Anrie14:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say before you write about guidelines, Anrie, it would be nice, if you go to the top of that very page and read them, but, if you cannot, here they are:"Value - our main goal is to feature most valuable pictures from all others. Pictures should be in some way special, so please be aware that: "almost all sunsets are pretty, and most such pictures are not essence different from others, nightshots are pretty but normally more details can be shown on pictures taken at daytime,beautiful does not always mean valuable." --Mbz122:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
There seems to be no chance of success here either, at 2 - 2. I may resubmit a later version that erases the problems that Fir0002 has with it. -- Ram-Man11:38, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Do you think litle lighter version (grass). Sorry but I haven't got good camera, I hope that I get better for my birthday :) --Mihael Simonic11:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Yes, the grass could be lighter but the main problem is the general unsharpness and the presence of ugly artifacts. - Alvesgaspar21:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Yeh. I will upload lighter version, but my camera support only 50 ISO settings. Yes this is Slovenia landskape - kozolec with ugly artifacts, but you can find some nicer places.
Comment - Those are not the type of artifact I'm referring too. Please check here what I mean. By the way, it is not supposed a ISO setting of 50 to cause digital noise in the pictures. That normally happens with high ISO settings (400+). Alvesgaspar22:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, but the technical quality is still low and this picture is a bit overexposed and doesn't have as good of composition. I liked the other one a lot better. --16:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Oppose Overexposed and denaturated colors in #2. Just cropping #1 (with more correct placement of the subject) would have been better. But note that what makes #1 beautiful is the clouds in the blue sky, and what makes it awful is the dark grass area at bottom. But the subject still lacks details. Verdy p20:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info The one on the right is not a nomination, I include it only as a point of interest, it's the same joey three months ago (March). You can't get much of a sense of scale from the images but it's amazing how quickly they grow, it's about half again as big now as it was then.
OpposeNeutral Because of the alternating bands in the sky and minor stitching errors. It is great stitching for 60 picture, good job! --Digon316:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Did you folks look at the full sized version? If the sky is that big of a deal I will just retake it another time, but the sky is not really the subject of photo. I am confused as to what makes a FP here, I see some very poor images passing and some very good ones failing. HighInBC16:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I looked very carefully at full size before I voted and it is an amazing picture. I suspect no one is voting only because of the bands in the sky. For me the bands are really distracting and unnatural. As for poor images passing and some very good ones failing, well, no one understands that (but it probably has to do with new voters not reading the guidelines well enough and thinking this is Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, oh well). Definitely fix the bands in the sky or retake the picture (if you have to) and I am sure this will get lots of support votes. --Digon316:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I looked at this picture for a while. It has some amazing elements: the little bugs and the water droplets. It also has a very high resolution. The downside: it's got a very shallow DoF that blurs the amazing elements. -- Ram-Man23:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I don't know why, but this image is fascinating me. Moreover I like the blue-yellow-orange colour composition in that picture --D-Kuru00:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's still too small and still just a brick wall. A brick wall is rediculously easy to shoot, so it should be very high resolution as part of its requirements. -- Ram-Man12:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: is not large enough and there are no mitigating reasons for it being smaller than 2Mpx. --MichaelMaggs05:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I don't particularly support smoking, but this is a good portrait and we don't have many good portraits. It's high technical quality. -- Ram-Man14:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This comment was really unexpected because the main reason for the nomination was exactly ... the symmerical composition. Well, we learn until we die. Alvesgaspar20:49, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I believe that Wikipedia is not a botanical encyclopedia and I believe it would be too specific, if Wikipedia dispayed "hundered of thousand of vegetal species in nature" on its pages.--Mbz119:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
The guidelines state that it must be useful and it is. Whether or not there are hundreds of thousands of Wikipedia botanical articles doesn't matter. The FP process is no place to reject a picture just because of what you want Wikipedia to contain. If it can be used in an article to illustrate that topic, then it is useful. -- Ram-Man22:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Plus this isn't Wikipedia, but the Wikimedia Commons, which contains pictures to be used by all Wikimedia projects, including, I believe, Wikispecies. Anrie14:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Against the trend. Sure it's an great place and a good picture. But it doesn't really wow me. The composition seems a bit random. --MichaD22:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just this one. I didn't nominate the third, so I can't withdraw that one. The middle one still has a chance of success if it receives a vote or two more. -- Ram-Man11:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean "not a real macro"? Also, the luminance looks fine to me, perhaps your monitor is too dark? Lightening it up washes out the color. -- Ram-Man19:36, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I know what a macro is, I just didn't understand why you were opposing because of it. The guidelines do not require images to either be or not be macros. The only legitimate reason to oppose because it is not a macro is if it doesn't have a sufficient "wow factor" because of it. Anything else is just an opinion and doesn't belong here, just as it would be inappropriate to oppose all pictures with the color blue because you don't like blue. -- Ram-Man22:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me put it this way: We cannot feature all Ram-Man butterfly pictures. They have no VALUE, there are too many of them even at that page. If at least they were macro, maybe they'd have some value (probably not). There is no "wow factor" in your pictures.--Mbz122:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Info Edit 1 is better than the original but still a little shy. This version brings a little more colour and contrast, specially in the greens. - Alvesgaspar17:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think that the color of the butterfly matches reality. It is too yellow or green. Also, unless someone can identify the plant in question, I don't remember it being that green, especially for an adult plant in mid-summer at the end of July when this picture was taken. If anything, I worried that my changes went too far. The whole image looks unnatural. -- Ram-Man17:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Overexposed, digital artefacts. The correct light is somewhere between #2 and #3 (but you need a non linear filter to just it and avoid saturation of whites and decoloration! light of greens if OK, but oranges in the fly and magentas of flowers are washed out; to correct it, you must separate the image into at least 5 color planes, and adjust each color precisely before recomposing the image) Verdy p21:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I would prefer a less quadratic format. So i would crop the picture a little at the top. But it is a good picture. --Simonizer07:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The picture has no VALUE --13:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1
Comment - I'm trying to understand your votes (this one and the one below) and accept its seriousness (which is not easy). In the present case, and since the difference between the two versions is minimal, the lack of value must be caused by a poor background. Right?... Alvesgaspar22:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As a whole, the composition is weak: what are the important elements? the house? the statues? the steps? the trees? High contrast due to harsh direct lighting. The perspective distorts the perceived direction of the steps, leading to uncomfortable asymmetry. -- Ram-Man17:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Great colours, nice detail and good composition. But I would like it even better when the flower would be in focus too. --Simonizer11:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Contrary to Simonizer, I think the OOF petals on the flower improve this picture. By the way WOW ! Benh15:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose FP is not just about the wow factor, although a lot of emphasis is placed on it. The shallow DoF is artsy, but we don't promote pictures just because they are artsy. More DoF is needed, especially on the insect. -- Ram-Man16:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Composition and theme are great, but I agree that more DOF is needed. Also, the picture lacks colour and light contrast. - Alvesgaspar17:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support An exceptional shot which the small DoF enhances. We need to remember that Commons is not just for boring record shots that have to be sharp throughout; there is room for artistic photography as well and we should encourage that. --MichaelMaggs06:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose DOF would have been fine if it wasn't for the yellow flower on yellow background. Nothing to help you separate foreground and background. --MichaD22:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I love the look on its face, but it's not quite sharp enough. If the whole face was sharp, I'd really have trouble opposing, but as is, it's not quite there. The bright light down the left isn't good either. Sorry, Ben Aveling11:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Great pose, great composition, technically well done. A little heavy on the propaganda (that's what it was meant for), but it's representative of its time period (World War II in the U.S.). howcheng {chat}21:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, first of all - war propaganda as Lyacon and the second - this picture evoke in my mind the old communistic posters saying that working class will beat all American capitalists and so on. And I don´t like to see something similar again...--Karelj20:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are some other images from the same period that have great captions like, "Hitler is sorry we have this man on our team!" I'll have to upload those here too. :) howcheng {chat}21:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's pretty tilted. :-) But I guess that's no accident. It's certainly a high quality picture, technically. But I'm not sure it has a wow factor. The composition and the lighting deliberately move the eye away from the interesting part of the picture (him) and onto the lettering. So no opposition from me, but not moved to support either. Neutral. Ben Aveling12:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I only use neutral when its really close technically and in wow factor. Other people do it when its technically good but lacking a wow factor. --Digon319:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I presume that the pose is staged, otherwise his eyes wouldn't be along the same line as the words "U.S. Navy", nor would the gun be pointed at the same angle. This image is pre-Elvis though, so I would discount that theory. howcheng {chat}17:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support, I don't think the image is tilted... it's that the plane doesn't sit flat. And, sure, it's propaganda... but, what's wrong with featuring that? Technically very well done. The wow factor for me is that it is a staged promotional image of the archetypal American fighting man. 72.78.222.135 04:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Please log on to vote, thanks. -- Lycaon05:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I did consider that the plane might not sit flat, but (in the order I noticed these clues) there appears to be a line of buildings visible behind the plane at the same angle, the gunner is also at an angle, there is a line of something on the concrete, and (and this is the big giveaway) there is the angle that piece of rope is hanging at. Regards, Ben Aveling22:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - Just because it was released as propaganda (and still is) doesn't mean it can't qualify as an FP. From the guidelines "Good photographs are not limited to evoking pleasant sensations…". Anrie14:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support +++ Yes it is propaganda, but this propaganda was successful historically, and the subject is important and very illustrative. Excellent composition and technical qualities, the "message" passes very well (that's exactly why this image was made)! Verdy p21:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Beautiful and sharp. I like the smooth reflection. Question I have some problems opening the description page but everything it's OK with the full resolution. Does it happen only to me? Now it works. --LucaG20:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Its the same here. It happened often when i uploaded high resolution images. Thats why i prefer a lenght of 1600px, usually. --Makro Freak20:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Are insects on flowers the new sunsets? In particular this is the second Hoverfly on a flower on this page. Good image quality and better resolution though. --Dschwen23:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Is it not the aim of this FP exercise to try to improve and excel? Even new sunsets can be innovative (though I still have to see them). The competitive element makes Commons an ever growing prime source of quality images. You don't want us to stop posting hoverflies, do you? It's the season B.T.W. ;-). Lycaon23:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Insects generally get wide support, flowers get very few votes or fail outright (except for a few exceptions). It seems that a flower has to have an insect anymore to be a featured picture. -- Ram-Man04:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Wonderful insect and amazing quality. I'm throwing my camera out the window (and start fishing instead...). Alvesgaspar23:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too many "featured images" of this same insect specy. Why is that one special (even if it looks good)? Please choose another specy, there are billions on earth! Verdy p20:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Its not the fly at all. This picture is very special because of its whole composition and the harmonic colors. It charms me, everytime i watch it. --Makro Freak23:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I hate insects. I rarely support a picture of them. This one is a good photo, but I just prefer not to vote. And a bee is my nightmare. --Arad03:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Absent some significant improvement in the photo, it's certainly discouraged. In fairness, it was nominated by a different user the first time, and it has just been awarded FP at the Chinese wikipedia. But I still suggest this be unnominated. Regards, Ben Aveling08:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If a picture had been nominated recently and failed, then you might want to wait 3 or 4 months before renominating. --Digon315:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: failed on a very recent nomination, and nothing has changed in the meantime. --MichaelMaggs13:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose The red channel is significantly overexposed. I'm pleased to see someone using a Coolpix 8700 camera like I do :) -- Ram-Man19:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: significantly overexposed in the red channel. Sorry - please try again. --MichaelMaggs13:40, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: overexposed in the sky, is not quite in focus and has a leaf partially blocking the main subject. Next time you could try moving the viewpoint around a bit before taking the shot to see what looks best. Sorry - please try again. --MichaelMaggs13:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Info The original image has been nominated for featured picture at WP 4 times, and failed each time because of the unfortunate glare. This edit has the glare reduced, and without too much loss of detail, arguably the opposite. As well as producing a beautiful image, it could also be used as an example of what can be done with post processing.
Comment I like the original better. Color gradients seem to have been reduced to a fewer number of discrete steps, almost like it had it's number of colors reduced. Also the magenta/purple colors in the gradients do not look good to me. /Daniel7821:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support There is a highres version. Yah, the image is a bit over processed but this does not matter. The Mona Lisa has some cracks but it is anyhow she's perfect. The symbol is perfectly visualized. A bit hokey ^^ Metoc
Comment can everyone please vote in the section below as well or instead. I suspect that anyone who supports this version, would support the below version, but I'd rather that be made explicit, especially as I hope that not all of the people who opposed this version would oppose the higher-res version below. Regards, Ben Aveling07:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I've sent Javit back to the lab, and he's been sweating blood and tears to produce this version for us. 1600 × 1201 pixel, file size: 1.12 MB. Regards, Ben Aveling11:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It's not a blow up at all, I used all the resolution available from the raw file, nothing extra. --Javit23:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Actually sorry I remembered I did blow up 15-20% using Genuine Fractals, which is well within %100 lossless blowup capability.
Comment It will be difficult to reach FP with a blow up, however minor, which is done just to achieve size requirements. Down-sampling makes it a very pretty picture, but not for FP, sorry. Lycaon05:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Don't you lose some information by resaving it as a jpeg ? I don't say it's visible, I am just curious if it's theorethically possible to guarantee 100% lossless with a jpeg resave ? /Daniel7812:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Nice picture, might even be the kind of picture you could market commercially. But it's not FP quality. -- Ram-Man02:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you have to state that it is different... ...no seriously, absolutely fabulous in full size. Nice composition/setup and the mit has decent detail as well. --Dschwen08:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think then that I would need a microscope. A higher resolution camera couldn't hurt either, but I don't have one of those. I will accept donations. ;-) -- Ram-Man22:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Derek, wanna see the mite full filled on your sensor without any donation? You can use every lens as a magnifying lens when you rotate it and look through it from the opposit side. Try it, its fun. There are some adapters called retroadapters which enables you to mount your lens the other way around. I work a lot with this technique. --Makro Freak23:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeMartin Kozák12:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC) — Yes, it is relatively nice from technical view although colors and brightness don't like me. But featured picture because of technical advantages and texture?[reply]
The underside of the leaf is darker and less bright green than the topside. I'll upload some whole leaf images later. -- Ram-Man16:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, the color appears to be a off, but I'm not sure that we want to do anything about that at the moment, this late in the process. -- Ram-Man16:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It is a very good picture, but focused to fur instead of face. I know, it's hard to focus it because of short time, but I dont't understand the photo in role of onlooker. --Martin Kozák12:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Nice picture of a hand, unfortunately there are two frogs in it. Nice picture of two fronts, unfortunately there's a hand in it. 72.78.222.135 04:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Please log on to vote. Thanks -- Lycaon05:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info: Created, uploaded and nominated by --Drow male22:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC). This time, the size of the picture (1728 × 2304 pixel) is suitable.[reply]
Comment by Yug : amazing work, perfectly done, showing several possibilities to customize a Mamiya 645 Super camera. I think that this images is of an higher quality, but also perfectly encyclopedic. --Yug(talk)07:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC) (please correct my English)[reply]
The paths, arrows and numbers are… I would be very pleased if you can tell me how to vectorize a photograph and still keep it looking like a photograph… People asked to change it from JPG to a language neutral PNG or SVG, and so did I. I choose the SVG because the PNG file was far much heavier.Sting14:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Of course they are. But people seeing SVG will think it's vector graphic, not bitmap with vector elements and cause that it should not be FP (in my opinion)--WarX15:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. : When I first created this picture (mid 2006), Inkscape didn't allow embed raster images in SVG file, now it's possible and perfect for many applications. And with its powerful vectorization, it is a delight. This one, imo, is a very simple example, but try it, it's really amazing… a priceless toy for Wikigraphists ! OK, those pictures are not 100% vector graphics, but I think it shouldn't restrict us to create high visual results. For a vector topographic map, take out the raster shaded relief and it will loose 50% of its legibility.Sting16:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support (but anyway the embedded bitmaps have quite low resolution, so details of the elements are difficult to see). Verdy p20:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Having pushed its way up through the debris it squats quietly on the dim forest floor, holding perfectly still for the one second exposure as it contemplates the fact that at least its not a sunset, flower or insect :-) --Tony Wills23:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Technically it is very good. As for the wow factor, I think that if someone who didn't stare at FPs all day long saw this, they would think it was amazing. -- Ram-Man21:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - The quality is amazingly good. Still I don't like the framing and the lack of detail in the yellow background - Alvesgaspar23:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral You are brave to submit a sunset :) In this image, the foreground trees are not as sharp as they should be. Considering how hard it is to make a sunset exceptional over other sunsets, I would have expected more resolution to set it apart from the rest. It's not bad, but I'm not convinced it should be a FP. -- Ram-Man21:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This image has similar DoF compared to my current nomination of the same basic subject (which is currently failing!), but to be consistent, I have to support this one as well. It shows off the important elements well and is attractive. There is no reason everything has to be in focus. Good luck. -- Ram-Man21:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose While this has similar DOF to the other nomination there's no clear place your eyes are guided to. The OOF part on the right is distracting. --MichaD22:40, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The person in this picture is distracting. I'd have rather seen another common object to add a sense of scale. The lighting is interesting though. -- Ram-Man17:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What person? Either you are mistaken or I'm losing my sight: I can't see any person in this picture. Anrie12:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your monitor may not have enough contrast to view shadow detail. He's in the shadow on the upper right hand quadrant of the picture. -- Ram-Man12:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It is a great image, but I see no VALUE in the picture. There are too many similar pictures. I just do not think Wikipedia should be a photo contest for cute high quality pictures with no value.--Mbz117:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Support - MartinD10:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC) I understand some of the points raised above, but for me, this picture has a definite "wow!-factor", for want of a better expression.[reply]
Neutral - MartinD10:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC) The technical quality of the picture is quite good, but what is it that makes it "outstanding"?[reply]
Oppose Good picture quality, but the angle it was taken is not. Should have been shot from a lower angle to increase the visual effect or from more of the side and horizontally to show better the locomotive. And particularly, should have been shot from the left side to reveal the colours and details at the bottom… but of course, looking at this version, the background was not the same. This is a good example where the instant was not the right moment to take a good photograph. Sting13:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose On a shot like this, the glass window shouldn't be cropped out. Perspective correction can't hurt either. -- Ram-Man19:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are always photos of insects. Bianco Dorian 07:10, 9 June 2007
Haha. I hope you meant that as a joke, but I suppose you were being serious. Don't worry, I have the same problem trying to push through certain types of pictures. I didn't say "if only it was an insect", since I just all pictures on their own merits, except relative to other FPs of the same category. -- Ram-Man03:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: of poor photographic quality (chromatic aberration, noise) and stitching is faulty. Please try again with a more careful editing. Alvesgaspar18:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Just a precision : I'm not the author of the photograph (which was made by the US Agricultural Research Service) as it was initially said, I « only » cleaned it and corrected the colours (original version here).Sting20:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's pretty and illustrative. It looks digitally altered, like a cross between a photograph and an illustration. -- Ram-Man02:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support And now for something completely different (where is that clapping hands smiley when you need it?). Just a bit of noise reduction needed. -- Lycaon05:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral My position can change. It looks very fresh and decorative but this brown soup is not delicious nor representative for orangejuice. This one looks like a combination of orangejuice with ice tea for me. For my taste orangejuice should have a color like this attached image so i come to the conclusion that the glass is underexposured on the right side, or its a not so nice reflection of the dark room on the foreground. Hard decission, i have to watch it a few times more --Makro Freak15:11, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tasty for me. Good lighting, good background. Would have been even better without the gray on the bottom. Maybe clone that out? --MichaD22:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think the bird knew that it was posing for a featured picture candidate ;) Unfortunately not very sharp. --norro19:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sharpness although it is not that bad. Perhaps it can be nehanced by a bit of downsampling + digital sharpening. Where is version 2?Berrucomons21:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose While the downsampling here makes sense, it is still too unsharp for a FP, as even at 2MP it doesn't look that good. We have much sharper bird pictures. -- Ram-Man21:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't understand why this has such a low quality. It surely looks like it could've come from a better source. --MichaD22:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
400mm focal length taken at 1/60 of a second. Probably blurred from lens shake. That said, the resolution of the "original" is 2602x3676, but the Canon EOS 20D only takes a maximum resolution of 2336x3504, so the image appears to have been upsampled. Maybe that has something to do with it? -- Ram-Man23:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info - When proposiing a new version please insert a new section for voting (just put the title between two "===="), so that all versions appear in the contentes table. - Alvesgaspar15:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is the best edit of the three, but I have to agree with Simonizer: we have sharper bird pictures. -- Ram-Man14:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, I know how hard it is to get close enough but that picture could still be downsampled to 50% without losing any detail. --MichaD09:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes ISO400 on a 300D produces some noise. It was shooted at sunrise in dim light and with lions moveing around the only option for sharpness was to raise sensitivity. I prefer not to edit images that really do not need it. --LucaG21:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support If we are going to look at noise, I'm afraid we're going to see only "no noise" and no action pictures from Pittsburgh Zoo.(I've nothing against Pittsburgh Zoo, yet wild animals look so much better!)--Mbz104:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
OpposeMartin Kozák11:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC) — I don't see any reason for support as featured picture. It is a very good picture, but there is a lot of very good pictures. I've thought, featured pictures are the best pictures who are good at something and excel by something.[reply]
Oppose The good effects of noise reduction were that contrast became poor;it was corrected by applying a massive contrast enhancement, producing very wide "halos" of light around the "meat", and false light! The image now looks too much edited, even at small resolution like on this page! The final effect is like a superposition of 2D stickers, with all differences of depths lost! Verdy p20:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not worried by the effects mentioned by Verdy p, as I either don't see them or they are negligible at normal magnifications. I have already voted to support, anyway. --MichaelMaggs16:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
SupportOriginal version I really don't see why this had to be perspective corrected... it's not like it was tilted. Benh20:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Please create a separate section for the new version using the correct format, so that both version appear in the contents table (check other nominations). Alvesgaspar22:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you change the light balance in #2 (which looks now overexposed) ?
Note that not all vertical linescan be parallel in this snapshot because they are at different depths. Trying to correct this reduces the visual depth and introduces an aberration, sort of "fish eye" effect where dimensions seem too large at the top of the image (but this feeling may have been cause by your change of light balance). I see that #2 contains parts of your own original that were clipped in proposal #1 (the bottom of the trunk on the right).
Well, the correction of verticals seems correct, but could you please restore the light, color and dimensions (that were better) ? Despite this, I like both images (I'd like to vote for #2, but because of your color/light changes I still prefer the original) : just use a trapezoidal transform to push the top right corner to the right, then clip the small triangle on the right to make a rectangle.
Anyway, #2 is less clipped, so it would be good to have your original width, with the better looking apparenceoflight and colors you made in #1 (the correction of verticals is not absolutely necessary as this gives a non natural depth). Verdy p19:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The verticals in this edit were what I was looking for, but I liked the color/light changes of the original. #3's verticals still seem tilted (I am mainly looking at the brick gate. --Digon316:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Verticals in #3 adjusted, as asked by Digon3, although right part of the brick gate is still not perfect... -- MJJR13:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The verticals are great in #2. If you can get the color in #2 the same as #1, create a new nomination and put it at the top. I appreciate all the work you are doing for this. --Digon315:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the appreciation. I do'nt have a calibrated screen for full control of the colors. So, if you want perhaps to try editing #2: feel free! -- MJJR19:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info For those who like vertical lines: Picuture #3 is the same as #1 (same colors, same light balance, same cropping, etc), but with straightened lines. -- MJJR19:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Image clearly posterized when seen in full resolution. This kind of focus is (or was) more or less common in women portraits and doesn't bother me. Alvesgaspar09:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Strongly opposed – the awful histogram explains the steps in the grey scale : the picture was edited in a very bad way, trying to get a brighter subject which still remains far too dark (the brightest pixel value is around 192!!) ; non encyclopaedic picture, it isn't even used and WP is not a gallery for personal « artistic » work (if I did care, I would even propose it for deletion…) ; secondarily, what is that file name « DSCF0003 » ? Sting14:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice protrait. Maybe to smooth. I can not understand why you would even delet such a nice portrait. Does Commons not accept great portraits because they look too good (artistic)?! No—Commons is not only a place for dry and correct product pictures. Metoc17:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I clap with the two hands for a nice portrait here in WP, but for one that has an encyclopaedic value because WP is an encyclopaedia (shoot by a famous photographer, showing a famous person…). Obviously this one hasn't the requirements : poor technical quality, poor format quality and like I said, it isn't even used in an article. Because of this last, where is the interest to keep it here ? Sting18:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Encylopaedic value is not mentioned at COM:SCOPE, the only thing it mentions about this is in the first sentence "Wikimedia Commons is a freely licensed media file repository (similar to stock photography archives) targeted at other Wikimedia projects.". It's kind of vague, what do targeted really mean ? Or is this more clearly stated elsewhere (I have not looked very thoroughly) ? I see this issue popping up from time to time here. /Daniel7821:22, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"This also means that files uploaded to the Commons have to be useful for some Wikimedia project. Media files that are not useful for any Wikimedia project are beyond the scope of Wikimedia Commons." So everything that's ok according to the wikimedia project scope is welcome here as well too which means "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally." [5] -- Gorgo15:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support if the border is removed and the file renamed to something useful. Good composition and pose. This picture does have value. It shows all sorts of photographic techniques for portrait photography: Black and White and the resulting emphasis on tonality, soft focus to smooth skin blemishes and for artistic effect, and a good example of a pose that has expressive emotion. The posterization effects are barely visible at 100%, so they don't concern me. -- Ram-Man15:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I agree with Ram-Man. I think it is problematic to argue that an image has "no value". For whom? I agree that the file name is a disaster--Christoph Michels17:46, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose You need to reedit the image from scratch using your original and a much more precise filter because the shades of greys are really bad, as seen in the histogram (the bluring effect comes from artificial reconstruction of gray shades by the dispersion of pixels, but this is at the price of lot of noise, that would have been avoided using a much better filter, computed in one step and not multiple lossy steps as it was done here). Look also at the missing focus on eyes and on lips (plus the articificial lines on the right of lips that are extremely damaging to the quality, even at low resoltuion where it is immediately visible). And of course you need to load your new image with a descriptive name, and propose this image here for deletion... (It is significant that you have not even been able to provide a description of your image here or in its description page!). The intended subject is extremely important! Verdy p20:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, at least until someone gives me an example of an article this picture could be used on. Regards, Ben Aveling 10:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Neutral. I agree it could be used, but it still doesn't give me a wow factor. Ben Aveling23:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You could. Though there are already too many images for the amount of text there. It's the first time I've seen an article that long that deserves a {{stub}} tag. Ben Aveling23:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Media files on commons don't need to be usefull in a certain wikipedia article but in a wikimedia project (which as well might be an art-gallery-project) please read Project Scope -- Gorgo15:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - For the quality and unsual composition, and hoping someone will eventually confirm the species identification. Alvesgaspar09:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support La imagen representa claramente al animal al que se quiere plasmar, cuyos rasgos se observan muy bien.--Drow male22:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question Is the angle of the animal real or was the image or camera rotated to create this composition? This lizard pose is very common, but I'm not used to one at this hard of an angle. It's very steep. -- Ram-Man15:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support A wonderful addition to the dandelion FPs. I'm shocked to learn that we only have 35 flower featured pictures, despite the fact that we are supposed to have "too many". -- Ram-Man17:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Wonderfull, looks like some alien machinery in a science fiction movie... By the way, I think it is a fruit, not a flower. Alvesgaspar20:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Nice composition, but I don't ilke the tilt. I'd prefer straight lines parallel and perpendicular to the sides, rather than the angled perspective, because of the text. -- Ram-Man17:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Nice pic, i would consider a support when the tilt (not sure if it is really tilt, but at looks like it and that is disturbing) is corrected --Simonizer06:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: tilt. Please try again with a more careful editing. --Simonizer07:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: of poor photographic quality: noise, unsharpness, lighting, confusing composition and bad framing. Alvesgaspar08:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Support high quality, nice colours, good composition and something different to the thousands of "just the flower centered" pictures--Simonizer15:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This picture was shot at f/2.8 to blur the background. I have this at other apertures in case it's required, but I prefer this one. The plant is a meter or so tall. -- Ram-Man15:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - composition too. The image should have been better in landscape format, putting flowers within the middle vertical third. We need the missing top, but the bottom, while still necessary to the image, is boring ; the only to present the subject with correct composition would have been to use a landscape format, with a shot probably slightly from above, to reduce the height of the feets. It would have also given more focus and sharp details to the small flowers. Verdy p19:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1) I have a landscape version, but the background is more distracting. 2) Vertical framing highlights the tall plants. In landscape, fewer pixels would be dedicated to the flowers since the view would be wider, lowering their sharpness. Vertical is better suited to a taxobox. 3) Instead of taking it straight on, a higher angle would introduce perspective distortion, decreasing its value. 4) A smaller aperture increases flower sharpness at the expense of background blur, as mentioned above. 5) What top is missing? -- Ram-Man20:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info This is only a fragment ... lets call it the front cover of a very detailed 20 picture-set about the birth and life in a carnica bees hive. It was a lot of work, damn painful but exciting. I wish there will be a nomination @ wikimedia for picture-sets in the future.
Oppose - The macro shot is too close resulting in an uninteresting composition, since there is little detail in the centre of the flower. Also, a large part of the petals are overexposed (blown?) - Alvesgaspar23:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I think the composition is very nice. I also like that the petals are "overexposed". Yet when you zoom in the picture doesn't make use of the many pixels it has. --Christoph Michels21:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The DoF is too shallow, it blurs out the flower detail. Nice composition though with the full plant and non-distracting background. Clearly a useful picture. -- Ram-Man03:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why is no one else voting on this picture? My opinion can't be the only one. It is a great picture technically and deserves some comments. --Digon315:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What unfortunate light conditions? Do you want harsh lighting instead of this indirect lighting? Or are you referring to the background being similar colors to the bird? It's not the fault of the picture that the bird has natural camouflauge. -- Ram-Man16:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The picture looks sallow, and i think because of cloudy weather conditions or of unfortunate shadows. So there is no "WoW" for me. Sorry! --Simonizer06:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info I’m not sure if this place is ready to accept common “non-exotic” human portraits. Last time I dared to propose one, in my first Commons nomination, it was quickly and violently kicked-off (here). I suppose it won’t be necessary to explain why this kind of picture is valuable, and not only for those who care about the people in the portrait. After all, people (Homo sapiens sapiens) is in a clear minority among Commons FP species. I suppose it won’t be really disappointing if the nomination fails miserably, but I’ll be happy if there is some discussion about the subject. Created and nominated by Alvesgaspar - Alvesgaspar14:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral quality of the image on the face is OK, but I don't like the rupture on the left and the plastic chair. Also, the edges of the hair seem blurry (maybe bad light or shadows?). Still, not oppose. --Orlovic(talk)20:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support One step back- It could be of good encyclopedic value as for example "a girl with mediterranean features" like similar in [6] --Orlovic(talk)21:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hello Alvesgaspar, i think this photo is really good and i would give you a pro if there would be another version where there is more space left on the right side. Then the photo would be perfect - then the head wouldnt be centered. Same is true for this photo (Image:PortraitGirl2005-2.jpg) of yours that i also like a lot - here you should leave some more space on the left side. This girl has a very photogenic and pretty face. --AngMoKio06:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not a bad picture. Perhaps a quality image. But not worth a featured picture. See here or there for featured picture portraits. Beside documentary interrest, they have -in my opinion- a much higher quality. Sorry Berrucomons21:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info - I've tried to address the concerns of Dschwen and AngMokio with this version. A crop through the shoulders doesn't work well, I'm afraid - Alvesgaspar08:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This process of interactive remixing during a nomination is kinda strange for me. Why you cannot find the propper crop and adjustments before and stay to your picture? This is the last time i support a process like this. <-- This was much to dogmatic! :) --Makro Freak16:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This "interactive remixing" is imported from the English FPC. IMO it is an effective way of profiting from the users' expertises and improving the quality and usefulness of the pictures. Alvesgaspar16:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What about improving images at COM:QIC and Commons:Photography_critiques instead of here ? I have a feeling that sometimes pictures get featured here because the apparant progressing improvement during multiple additions of small edits to an image seem so good that people in the end think that the improved image should be featured. But if that improved picture was shown alone from the start it might not have been featured. Just a little theory, I don't claim that this is a fact. /Daniel7818:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
SupportRomary11:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)PS : Version 2 is better than version 1. PS2 : what is funny and I am glad with that, nobody argue that this picture cannot be used and have no value (see discussion bellow for an other portrait).[reply]
Comment How about a 3rd or a 4th version? Did i see some uncertainty? You should select your FP very well before, instead of playing basaar and offering a lot of variation to raise your hopes, even before somebody is asking for that. --Makro Freak09:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Sharp, crisp, clear quality. Excellent detail on the bricks and the contrasting colours are simply beautiful. Gave me goosebumps. Liked the composition as well. Anrie12:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Once again I confess my sin of supporting a picture for aesthetical reasons only. Quality of the leaves is so so as well as illustrative value. But the composition and colours are superb. - Alvesgaspar12:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Siberian Iris (Iris sibirica). This flower placed 2nd-place in a iris judging contest. This image was shot against a white background and levels adjusted in post-processing to make it pure white.
Support - This is the one, but my vote would be more enthusiastic with a lesser crop and a green backgroud, like the one below.. - Alvesgaspar07:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fake or real? This was a cut flower, taken inside a building at an Iris judging contest (which is why it looks so good). -- Ram-Man16:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Same picture as above, but with the flower placed on a different, but real, green background of out-of-focus iris leaves. -- Ram-Man23:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This version is much better than the original due to the noise reduction. The noise was very distracting in the old version. -- Ram-Man11:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support not top notch quality, but good enough to me. I guess it's very hard to catch, and certainly harder than getting a sharp and noise free picture of a flower under daylight. Benh17:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The quality is not good enough and I don't like how the black hill takes up over half the picture. --Digon313:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This is the most strange insect image I have ever seen. It's no surprise that they are a common source of inspiration for SF movies. Wow!! - Alvesgaspar12:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Those aren't bubbles, they're grains of sand. The gurnard often rests on the sandy bottom with its pectoral "wings" folded up. When danger approaches, they will quickly spread the wings and "fly" away. It's likely, this photographer approached the stationary gunnard and then snapped the shot as it was scarred away trailing sand behind it. --Jnpet10:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Neutral At last you organized a propper camera, congrats. I was exploring your galery a while ago and thought somebody should support you with a better camera. My thoughts was heard, thank you wherever was responsible for :) ... but ... you was very touchy in the past concerning your votes, so i give you a neutral for now and awaiting further deployment. --Makro Freak13:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply] Support Peace!--Makro Freak20:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose framing is too tight and the lighting on the head and body is too bright, resulting in parts being overexposed. Congratulations on your new camera Mbz1, and be polite, please!. --Digon315:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Not perfectly exposed but very beautiful image with nice background. I like framing tight in "portraits". --LucaG17:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - OK, go ahead. For what I read, the colour of the locusts depend much of what they eat. Also this is a modern migratory grasshopper, meaning that the antennae must be prepared to receive GPS signals... Alvesgaspar19:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Fantastic grasshopper portrait, but a little bit noisy in the background. I will support after a moderate noise reduction. Chmehl19:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The DoF is really shallow, which makes the background distracting. I can't tell if this is about the bug, the flowers, or both. I'd also prefer a higher resolution, although it wouldn't change my vote. -- Ram-Man19:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This version is much better. The DoF is maximal and you have good detail in the bug. The flower is in-focus just enough to not be distracting. -- Ram-Man19:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Agree with Ram-Man. It would be nice to identify at least the family (For that reason, Lycaon would have opposed this pic, as well as my grasshopper, if he weren't in Namibia...) - Alvesgaspar19:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral It's definitely sharp and good enough technical quality for a FP. My only issue is that I don't care for the angle and think it lacks sufficient "wow factor" as a result. -- Ram-Man19:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Some parts are not in focus, it is overexposed, and unnatural background. Also, why is it PNG? --Digon313:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Replaced with JPG-version. The "unnatural" background is a three-wheel truck, and the grasshopper stands on the back of it. — H92 (t · c · no) 14:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: is smaller than the normal minimum size of 2Mpx, and there are no mitigating circumstances.--MichaelMaggs09:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Comment Great action shot, but unnecesarily wide. Should we crop it at both sides or are we sticking to this version? --Javier ME21:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This Image is not just 2 copulating bugs. In my imagination i saw a fancy bug-bedroom provided with a mattress and all the fine things sweet tiny bugs really like. When i was a kid i had some books with handdrawn pictures of cutted off buildings and you could see what the people doing inside. This bug-scene remindet me a lot on this books. Maybe after all this time hanging around with this tiny critters my view is different and i really cant expect that everybody understand this. Makro Freak says no to crop. --Makro Freak
Support It is my first time to access the "Featured picture" voting, I don't know how it works, but after I transfer a good-looking image which shows a antelope clearly, I think it is a good candidate of the featured picture. If you need more information, feel free to ask me. Thank you. Chanueting10:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Well, it is not enough to be interesting and clear to be featured. The picture should have an excellent technical quality and also that "touch of magic" or "wow fator". This picture is a good casual shot, but not good enough or special enough. For example part of the animal's legs are "blown highlighted" (pure white) maybe as a result of a direct reflection from the sun. Try again... - Alvesgaspar19:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can withdraw your nominated pictures at any time. This is done by simply writing "I withdraw my nomination" or by adding the text {{withdraw|~~~~}}. --Digon3talk16:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Unsharpness, poor exposure, and low resolution (759x1024, 124kb). Original nomination.
Delist While the subject is nice (and reproducible!), this is nowhere near today's quality standards. The original nomination barely passed in 2004 at 6 to 3. -- Ram-Man13:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Unsharp. The focus is not on the flower or more likely it was blurred. The background noise is visible at low resolutions as well. We currently reject similar or higher quality images frequently, such as this recent nomination. Original nomination.
Info Motion blur from long exposure causing details to become very smudgy and unsharp, especially in the important focal points of this image. There are blurred people in the image. Image appears underexposed. This isn't a difficult subject, so the standards should be higher anyway. Lower value: nightshots are pretty but normally more details can be shown on pictures taken at daytime. Original Nomination.
Delist Since this would be rejected as a new nom, it should be delisted for reasons stated above. It longs to be as high quality as this image. -- Ram-Man13:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Overexposure, especially of the anthers. Low sharpness due to using too high of an aperture. The all-important anthers are unsharp. The resolution is also too low at 1500x1130. While this featured picture of the same subject has problems, it is better than this one. Original nomination
Delist At f/32, the severe degradation caused by defraction is not sufficiently compensated by improved DoF. This should have been taken between f/11 and f/16 to maximize sharpness. At this magnfication, the extremely small change in DoF from f/16 to f/32 is negligible in a shot like this. At this resolution, a FP should be as sharp as one of Fir0002's images. -- Ram-Man16:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Low quality: not sharp, very noisy, JPEG artifacts on the edges of the roof against the sky. Too low resolution (1500x1000) only makes it worse. Original Nomination.
Keepfor now This is one of my favorite photos. It is very noisy though, could someone do something to make it less noisy? --Digon313:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I think those are snow not noise and removing them is not possible (without loosing every detail) and it's not right. --Arad19:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral But gee it's pretty. And it's not much too small. But yes, very, very noisy. Question If the noise were snow, would it be more visible where there's more light? Because that doesn't seem to be the case? Regards, Ben Aveling13:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Washed out sky, noisy, and low quality. The trees are just blobs of color with very little detail. The building itself is a mess of noise. Original Nomination.
Info Way too high contrast blows out color and details. Trees look terrible (very dark, without detail) and the rest of the image has low definition. This is a low resolution (1500x750) scan from Velvia slide film. Original nomination
Support I don't see many sporting images featured on Commons, but this one stood out for me for its importance (Wrexham scoring a goal against Boston United last month, in a game in which the loser would be relegated from the English Football League) and quality (most of the hundreds of fans can be seen clearly on the full-resolution version). It even captures the moment between ball-hitting-net and fans cheering... I'd be interested to hear what you think. --Responsible?01:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree this is a refreshing subject and a nice composition. But there is still some homework to do before the picture's quality satisfies. Alvesgaspar12:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Well, I quite agree with Digon3 that a downsample might improve the picture (I know that is considered as a serious sin by some users), as well as the application of some de-noise filter. Alvesgaspar22:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Most cameras has a built in noise filter and a sharpen filter, why should it being a sin to apply this external instead by the camera? --Makro Freak08:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Downsampling is ok when images don't have enough resolution anyway. For example, an image with 4MP of real resolution downsampled from 8MP to 6MP doesn't lose much if the downsampling algorithm is half decent, but it does remove noise and improve sharpness at 100%. In cases like that, downsampling is optional, and I consider it more of a minor sin. --Ram-Man12:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, you wrote (quote: Alvesgaspar "as well as the application of some de-noise filter"). I cant understand that, we should support every enhancement of quality any which way. --Makro Freak16:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question This is a great picture! I would immediately support it for nomination if I had not serious doubts concerning copyright violations. Don't the people on the photo have to agree to be published?--Christoph Michels09:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support The noise is due to the ISO 800 setting, chosen probably because a fast very shutter speed is needed in sports photography. --MichaelMaggs10:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question It's nice. And it's only slightly too small, but it is too small. Are there "strong mitigating reasons"? Regards, Ben Aveling00:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I had to choose between the people and the flags and fence above it. I thought the fence with the stings in combination with the flags and notes whas more important than the people moarning at that place. At least in my opinion of the seriousnes of this picture and all things related to it. I also had some pictures of the people and the fence, but I had to delete those pictures because near the fence there were soldiers, who did not allowed me to take pictures where they where on. --Trebaxus 02:59, 15 June 2007 (CET)
Oppose Nice, but for NASA space images we have far higher standards than someone just waving at the camera. The shuttle is currently in orbit again, so lets see what they can come up with in the next few days. --startaq06:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question to the nominator. I know you are always overly concern about framing. Don't you think that the framing is too tight and , a little more space above/below is needed? Besides the framing at the right-hand side is not equal to the framing at the left-hand side. Doesn't it concerns you also? It is a rhetorical question. No reply is needed--Mbz101:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
I sure am. It's hard for me to express myself in English as well as you do, so I copied and pasted the comment you've made, (and which I really liked!). I realized I could not say it any better. I hope you do not mind.(It is what I rellay think about your picture)--Mbz105:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Support The lighting is a little harsh, but not overly so. The over- and under-exposed elements are not the most important aspects of the image. I think it's pretty, but it's not a big deal either way. As for framing, it's my standard fare: more detail means more encyclopedic value. Don't like it, then oppose it. (Too bad the plant has grown so big this year. It isn't that small (or the same shape) anymore, so I can't just retake the same picture.) -- Ram-Man03:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose We are not wikipedia, so encyclopedic value alone is not enough for me to support a picture. Quality is ok but lighting is too harsh. --Simonizer06:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't think the person is identifiable. Even the gender has been misunderstood by people to whom I have shown the picture before uploading. Thierry Caro15:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with MichaelMaggs. I also think that even if this picture was taken in a public space (and therefore legal) a consent of the person photographed would be appropriate. Besides these doubts I consider it a great and useful image. --Christoph Michels16:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Quality isn't high enough, especially compared to the various other insect photos. By the size of the noise grain and the amount of pixels per detail, this looks cropped. -- Ram-Man03:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral It is a nice picture, a high quality scan, and historically significant, but it just doesn't have a big "wow" factor for me. --Digon3talk17:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Sorry, it is really a nice picture but the subject (the critters) hardly have any detail due to extreme magnification and noise. - Alvesgaspar19:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It is indeed beautiful, but the pixelized artifacts (posterization?) in upper left corner are visible as low as 1MP and are not representative of FP quality. It should be fixed before it can be featured. This image was processed in photoshop: Did post-processing cause this? The water and bud tip are also a bit overexposed. Underexposing by 1/3 or 2/3 stop would have helped, unless the overexposure was introduced in post-processing. -- Ram-Man17:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose For the same reason, plus noisy background. On the bright side, this can probably be fixed with an image editor. And it's worth it: the image is splendid.Berrucomons20:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info jep, the posterization was not pretty. I removed that!! I corrected the overexposure of the tip too although I would not have seen it as a necessary thing to do! Amada4421:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info The Alpine Ibex (Capra ibex)—commonly called by its German or Dutch name, Steinbock or by its Latin name Capricorn is the species of ibex that lives in the European Alps. Capricorns are very shy and hard to catch by camera, even with a 600mm focus.
Support This is the first picture in a long time where the crop actually bothers me a little. Still, it's not visible anyway, so it should be ok. -- Ram-Man13:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am also slightly bothered about the crop at the bottom, but not bothered enough :) The image is sharp and seems to be in the animals natural environment. /Daniel7820:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support --New Painter14:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC) the sculpture is located on the northern terrace of the Berlin Central Station so only in a few long summer days the sunshine can reach the sculpture and causes such interessting sun reflections on the steel of the 'Rolling Horse'[reply]
Support it seems to be a difficult shot. The topic of the image is the 'Horse' in the centre, isn't it? The base is also completly viewable. It's nice. --Glasnost10:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Is it a optical illusion or did i have the feeling that the picture tends a little bit to the right side? I really would see more of the amazing altar decoration details. --Makro Freaktalk21:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Stitching errors at the top. Strange colors from the tone mapping although I have to say that there are very few HDR tone mapped images that satisfy me in that regard. --MichaD22:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Where are the stitching errors? There are some wires in the picture near the top, but I don't see any stitching errors. grendel|khan18:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The wire that spans horizontally over the whole width at the very top with a microphone attached. It was probably pretty much in the foreground inducing parallax errors. Maybe it's small enough to be cloned out completely with some effort. That wouldn't change my vote because of the colors though. --MichaD12:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
NeutralOppose - This is a wonderful picture of an amazing subject! Maybe the stitching errors can be corrected. Also, I would like to see a little more detail in the main altar, which seems overexposed to me. - Alvesgaspar13:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Although there are some minor 'errors' (such as the strangely 'interrupted' horizontal wire near the top), I think it's really a great picture that deserves to be FP! -- MJJR21:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
??? The plants are. At the other hand it would result in a very strange composition, if the flowers were exactly in the centre. --LC-de11:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This is my city and my elevator, what can I do (other than wishing a better framing, with the ground level visible)? - Alvesgaspar19:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's your amazing city Joaquim. I looked for similar images in your gallery before to nominate it but I didn't find any. Better framing? Yes, now I have a brand-new 10-22 mm for my next time in Lisboa. --LucaG20:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Lisbon has been built on seven hills like Rome. The elevator connects the Baixa (Downtown) with the Bairro Alto (upper quarter). On the top of the elevator you reach Carmo Square. Alvesgaspar correct me please! --LucaG 21:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC) No need, you know everything! From the platform on the top there is a kind of bridge connecting the elevator to firm land, the Carmo Square. The elevator was conceived by a Portuguese engineer of french origin, Raoul Mesnier de Ronsard, and started functioning in 1902, powered by a steam engine. - Alvesgaspar23:31, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think the woman is too unsharp, and I lack some kind of expression or something to make the image more interesting. The background is also not doing this image more good. /Daniel7820:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'd be neutral because of the unsharpness, but the non-interesting background keeps this from being special. -- Ram-Man12:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info Yes Malene, she was walking. Every day a crowd of pilgrims incessantly revolves in the Barkhor, the prayer circuit around the Jokhang Temple in the center of Lhasa. I'm going to upload more Tibet images, I love that COUNTRY and his culture (Therefore I will not watch Olympic Games next year.) Yes, I agree it's not the right place. --LucaG20:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
InfoThe Lebiskari Fortress, located in Khevsureti region of Northern Georgia in the Caucasus mountains. The picture has a good composition and at the same time portrays the subject well. Created by Sosomk - uploaded by Sosomk - nominated by Sosomk --Sosomk07:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose Picture is a fake. Background (cloudy sky) is pasted. Just look at the transition from gras to the sky and you can see it clearly. --Simonizer12:45, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info - Oops! I am sorry, I missed that but there are plenty of others by Paata that we can nominate. We can delist that one I guess.Sosomk15:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
CommentYes, please withdraw the nomination: I emailed him and he remixed two of his works, so I will nominate a better one today. Once again Sorry for that one. Sosomk10:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Same as above, the composition is uneven. It is the subjects that make it that way, not the framing. --Digon316:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't know but I get the impression that two things are just placed next to each other and photographed, a bit too artificial to be an image of two natural items. Hmm I am not sure I managed to explain exactly what I mean... /Daniel7820:30, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes, the two things were posed together, however the tree is naturally somewhat chaotic. Trying to get a macro shot of two objects in this basic configuration in sharp focus is nearly impossible unless the objects are in the same plane perpendicular to the length of the lens. As a result, I had to place the cone relative to the needles to achieve the goal. It would have been trivial to take the cone and needles separate from each other. Some context is missing: See this and this for how this tree looks. -- Ram-Man20:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's sharp, not cropped too tightly, and it was taken during a real rain shower. Oh, and it's a flower. -- Ram-Man01:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I cant close the nomination anyway because of the others versions. So it really doesnt matter if you withdraw this version or I determine the result. It will remain here anyway until the other versions are finished --Simonizer06:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support The church with the hill and the trees looks like a wonderfull frame. Its a pity that there is a little bit too much haze on the opposit hill and the framing is very tight --Makro Freaktalk22:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This is one of the most beatifull pictures nominated as FPC in the last times. Still, strict photographic quality is not very good: the picture is blurry and lacks detail, and the colouring doesn't look natural. Before I vote I would like to know if the image was post-processed and how. Alvesgaspar08:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I corrected the tilt. Otherwise there was no post-processing at all. Would you recommend changing anything with the colors? The picture was taken in the very late afternoon when the light is dim but very warm.--Christoph Michels08:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is pretty because of the colors, but there are no fine details. The hillside grass is just color mush. Maybe this is blur, not enough DoF, or a combination of both. It's possible that the focus is set too far into infinity. There is no mitigating reason why a smaller aperture couldn't have been used. -- Ram-Man12:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I love the colours and the atmosphere. But I agree with Ram-Man about the aperture issue. Also i dont like the horizon centered in the middle of the picture. That divides the picture in two parts. --Simonizer12:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like the mood. In my opinion the so called color mush is resulted in the dim light and the little color contrast. --LC-de12:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An image in twilight like this should have a relatively sharp foreground, like this image taken at the same time as this sunset. Taking it in dim light is no excuse for this much unsharpness. Approximately 50% of the image is blurred. At 1/800 and f/5.6, there was no reason this image couldn't have been taken at 1/400 and f/11. -- Ram-Man13:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The sky has some good, subtle colours, but the large expanse of rather boring and unfocussed green on the left detracts from the composition. --MichaelMaggs09:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's not sharp at all. I usually don't care for nightshots, but this one is special enough because of the subject matter. Still, any nightshot of a cityscape should be sharper than this, and we have other FPs that are, so there is no mitigating reason here. Unless the lights were moving, the ISO was also too high. -- Ram-Man12:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not the lights (except one where vandals were moving with it), but the bridge was moving. This picture shot from the erasmus bridge in Rotterdam which moves quite a lot, espessialy because of the trams riding over it. The pictures in quality newspapers where often more unsharp than this one. Also because of the fog and the rain. -- Trebaxus13:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is better than the original. Although I might not normally support it, this needs enough votes to be successful. -- Ram-Man12:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I have rarely nominated any of my stuff, but I think this does a great job of capturing the ecstatic dance at an outdoor hippie-ish festival. --en:Jmabel | talk06:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This image does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed because it is of poor photographic quality. This was probably scanned from a small paper copy and then upsampled to the present size, resulting in a blurry image. Also, the picture is tilted and the composition and framing could be better - Alvesgaspar08:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The composition and focus were deliberate! It is intended to convey the chaos of the dancing. But, oh well, if this is a standard around here - no art - consider the nomination withdrawn. - en:Jmabel | talk16:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Sorry to disagree but I am the first to consider Photography as a form of Art. If you go through our archive of Featured pictures, specially those under the People section, you will verify that most of them have a strong artistic component and also an excellent technical quality. As a matter of fact, technical quality is not incompatible with artistic value. On the contrary it is normally an indispensable part of it, both in Photography as well as in other forms of visual arts. I can understand that this particular photo may have some special value for you, but I don't see a trace of artistic value in it. - Alvesgaspar19:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I disagree with Alvesgaspar: I think there is lots of "artistic value" in this picture. The atmosphere and the colors are great. I even like the grain of this image, it somehow supports the subject. Probably it's due to the fact that I live in Switzerland and those scenes are rather rare, but this is really a good picture for me. I also think without the the tilt the image would be much worse because it makes immediately clear that this picture was taken by a dancing person. This is an image which is very much alive! Although I know this image will most likely not make it due to its DOF, ISO and DPI I give it a strong support. --Christoph Michels22:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I generally like the image and framing, but the image quality (intentionally or not) is just too bad for me to support. /Daniel7821:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Even though we do not have a FP of a space shuttle. I would prefer a picture where the space shuttle is a lot closer. --Digon3talk20:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I was looking in Commons:Featured pictures/Astronomy only, I didn't even think to look at Commons:Featured pictures/Objects/Vehicles. --Digon3talk13:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neither did I. :-) I did a search for category 'PD NASA' in category 'Featured pictures' then looked for anything that might be a shuttle (STS, Columbia, Atlantis) Try [7] Regards, Ben Aveling20:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose What are the white stains? Reflections? Or some kind of smoke? Beside that, i cannot find anything special on this picture. Ok, space pictures are always great because we cant go there by our own. So in my opinion they must be perfect to get featured. This one lacks of a good composition and the subject, as Digon allready said, is too far away. --Simonizer08:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Focus appears to be on the space station, not on the shuttle, and both seems just slightly overexposed. Doesn't quite do it for me. Regards, Ben Aveling10:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral While it isn't as sharp as I'd like, it is the sharpest shot of the shuttle in space (or near space). It doesn't have the wow factor of Image:Atlantis Docked to Mir.jpg. But I do like the composition, the image of the open shuttle rising towards this other object with the earth behind, so small yet so large, and nicely visible, that works. So I withdraw my oppose. But the slight overexposure, the lack of clarity, the white stripy smears on the right, I can't support either. Regards, Ben Aveling22:17, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think the exposure is perhaps mitigating considering the light source. It's not like you can just wait around for the perfect twilight/sunset out there in space. -- Ram-Man15:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delist This is obviously not up to current standards. Images for delisting struggle to achieve the minimum number of votes, so we'll see if this can get enough votes. -- Ram-Man12:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Most people don't read this far down they page. Could we put candidates for delisting in the same section as candidates? It would mean that more people see it, though we'd have to be careful that people didn't get confused between candidates for promotion and delisting. Regards, Ben Aveling22:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- While I do not think the picture is FP-quality, it certainly doesn't lack composition. It's an excellent study in symmetry en the geometrical lining of the natural and man-made is a very good subject. Anrie08:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delist It's noisy even at this low resolution. The foreground trees are of poor quality and are distracting because of it. -- Ram-Man04:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: is not large enough and there are no mitigating reasons for it being smaller than 2Mpx. --Simonizer07:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Oppose It is pretty, but I don't like the composition. I would like to see a close-up of the marina with this kind of lighting! --Digon3talk20:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - I like the composition and the beautiful colours of the afternoon, but quality is not good enough (unsharp, lack of detail) - Alvesgaspar09:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Neutral Nice view, nice colors, nice atmosphere, but not very sharp and unpleasant foreground left -- MJJR20:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Personally, I think it works better for the tourists - my brain just goes "what are all those people doing there? Especially _that_ one?" But the background just doesn't cut it. Regards, Ben Aveling21:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Not because of the tourists, I think that their presence contributes to the chill. But the framing is poor (especially at the upper side of the picture) as well as the quality (there are visible artifacts)- Alvesgaspar18:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Great picture! I especially like all the tourists on this rock! Unfortunately the background is overexposed. otherwise I would immediately support this picture.--Christoph Michels17:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose runs out of DOF on the legs (and less importantly, the tail). Nice coloring on the neck, but bright spot on the head is not good. I like the background mostly, but not in the bottom left. Falls short of a wow factor for me. Regards, Ben Aveling22:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I like the picture, despite the shallow DOF, although it might be too shallow. However, the information is wrong: it's not a Columba palumbus, but a Columba livia. And it's not only in the image description, the image name itself has that mistake. A new image should be uploaded with the correct name and information. Keta16:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The pigeons are too common, too many people are taking pictures of them, that's why in my opinion the picture has no value.--Mbz101:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
There are many species of pigeon, each slightly different from the other. Think how wonderful it would be to have a FP of each species (and even subspecies). Why refuse this species its FP, just because pigeons are common? Anrie08:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I'm torn: I find the detail of the feathers and the colouring beautiful, but the blurry legs prevent me from supporting it. Sorry. Anrie08:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral There's a lot I like, but I'm not sure if it comes together or not. To my eye, a tighter crop might help. Maybe bring the right border in until it's the same distance from the rightmost llama as the left border is from the leftmost llama, and bring the bottom border up, maybe to the same number of pixels from the nearest llama as the sky is tall, so to speak. IMHO, of course. Good luck. Regards, Ben Aveling22:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: of poor photographic quality --Simonizer08:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.
Support. Excellent shot. Can't see why a picture of an animal's head shouldn't be a picture of an animal's head :) –Dilaudid11:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, especialy with common species such as this, of which there is lots of full body shots, I don't think it makes an image less usefull, it shows part of the animal in more detail, anyway, thanks for supporting --Benjamint10:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It would only take a minute to clone the tag on it's ear out but I think that since it is a domsticated animal which is mainly farmed (as opposed to pets) then it's most common state is with a tag on it's ear or a brand. Shall I get rid of it? I like the blackberry cane tangled in it's fur and the wool caught on it's horn, they seem to emphasise the hardyness of goats, I actually found them scrambling around halfway up the cliff of the quarry in the background but I wasn't quick enough with my camera and they all slid down to see if I had food for them.
Comment In my opinion you dont need to clone the tag because as you allready said it is normal for domesticated animals. It also has a nice blue colour and so it is a good contrast to the otherwise brown colours of the picture. --Simonizer12:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Good quality picture but not enough to be FP. Framing too tight on head, harsh shadow on neck, overexposed body and distracting background. Alvesgaspar10:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like the unusual composition - particularly the line from the upper corner of the pic, through the horns, the nose and the body. And i like the blurry goats in the background. --Malene Thyssen18:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I like the goats in the BG too, (is that what you find distracting?) I think they're a key part of the image, I thought about removing them but it's a herd animal... --Benjamint10:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion composition is anything, but boring. In my opinion the composition says quite a lot about that girl from Madagascar vilage for one, who could see something more than "a hand on the upper-right that distracts", which by the way is very easy to correct.--Mbz100:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Neutral - Unfortunate background and poor POV. Pictures of children should be taken at the eye level to better capture the expression. - Alvesgaspar08:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion pictures of children as well as pictures of the people in general are much, much more interesting, when a person is not posing for the picture, like for example this girl clearly was.--Mbz115:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Comment - That is a different issue that I didn't mention. Anyway, it is your picture which is being reviewed here, not mine. - Alvesgaspar20:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose i don't have too much problems with technical things when a picture has a really good composition - sorry but this here seems to me more like a snapshot. By the way: what does this picture tell us abt the girl? ..i am really curious abt that. --AngMoKio20:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent. This was shot at f/2.7 and could have been shot at f/3.7 for maximum sharpness and more DoF, but I think it's more than ok. -- Ram-Man12:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Composition is ok. I like the two main diagonals in the picture (snail and fence). And background is ok, too, because it tells someting about the enviroment. But I would like to see a little more DOF, cause the head of the snail isnt really sharp anymore. --Simonizer10:27, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -that NASA makes incredible pictures from things noone else can take a picture from is nice, but it means we must make every picture of them Featured?-LadyofHats10:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Support Very sharp, reflections are funny; perhaps it would be better if the two parts at the bottom of the picture weren't cropped.Vassil 19 June 2007
Oppose - majority of the plants is not sharp, would have liked to see more water, less of the light green shrub in front (composition)~, looks like a beautiful place though Tbc18:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like the wide range of plants in the foreground. Vassil 19 June 2007
Info The thick-headed fly is bold as brass and looks a little bit toon like, thats why i like her. After a brave and crazy flying-maneuver, she places her eggs onto a bumblebees back, looking forward that the b-bee bring the eggs to his hive where the eclosing larvaes then feed upon the inventory.
Info Replica of a wind rose from the chart of Jorge de Aguiar (1492), the oldest known signed and dated Portuguese nautical chart (original here). Yes, I have also uploaded a svg version but it doesn't show correctly here, as usual (St SVG is abandoning us). Created and nominated by Alvesgaspar --Alvesgaspar12:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info - Well, I suppose that will be up to the reviewers. Though they are both beautiful, the two wind roses belong to differente "species" and authors, and have different historical importances. - Alvesgaspar16:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the image is clearly made with a vector graphic program, so that the file should be svg (smaller file better quality than png) Plus if it is really a replica you should respect the thickness from the lines and the proportion of the circles and arrows (including their overlaping, or wether they are simetric or not) by making circles straight, and lines thin what you just did is a very normal, if well old looking. windrose -LadyofHats10:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Comment - I disagree, there is no point in making an exact replica, which includes the obvious imperfections. This version is, I believe, close to what the author would have done if he had access to the same instruments as us. I would have gone even further in this "interpretation" if I could decipher all the writings, in order to make them more easily readable. If I wanted an exact vector replica of the original I would have used some kind of automatic tracing application (as avalilabe in CorelDraw, for example), but that would have been useless. As for the svg version, it is available in the "other versions" section of the file and can be accessed by InkScape. It is not my fault that the rendering routine of Commons can't show it properly - Alvesgaspar13:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info - All the names were deciphered and the lettering was replaced in order to be more legible. It should read now: norte (north), nordeste (northeast), leste (east), sueste (southeast), sull (south), sudueste (southwest), oeste (west) and noroeste (northwest) - Alvesgaspar16:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bem feito! A beautiful picture. There was no need of making an exact copy of the original for use in articles like en:Compass rose without distracting background. Additionally you could put a link to the original on the picture page. --wau16:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I would have oppose this because I think it is too similar to this FP and I like the other one a lot better. But since no one else seems to have a problem with that and it is a very nicely done image, I am not going to stand in the way of it being FP, so neutral. --Digon3talk14:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral it is sharp but not completly sharp, the tummy and midle part of the picture is rather blury and even when this is not so distracting to make it an opose, it is still something to consider.-LadyofHats11:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This image is among the best we have to offer. I agree with Makro Freak's assessment on his choice of aperture (and resulting DoF). -- Ram-Man19:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - What is this symbol and how can it be useful for the Commons project? Even for those reading Spanish the explanation isn't clear at all. - Alvesgaspar10:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Supporttraductor (es) ---- es un simbolo religioso ruso, sencillo y bonito para mi --maky053 11:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC) (ing)--- religious Russian, simple and pretty is simbolo for my --maky05311:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Apart from the not very clear symbolic or religious meaning of the drawing: Just some circles in different sizes, different colours and on different layers --Simonizer12:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- this is not russian religious symbol, it is a symbol created acording to a book called the secrets from water ( rather esoteric and no scientific at all). still is slampy made and such an image should be when at all SVG file-LadyofHats11:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
InfoThere are at least 2 insects trapped in that small piece of amber. Bubbles that you see are not a camera artifact. They really are present in the amber and indicate that insects were trapped while still alive and breathing.
Comment I'm really surprised that the picture was nominated 12 hours ago and so far I see only one oppose. To tell you the truth I expected to see at least 5. Well, an ant in an amber is a hard subject. Maybe you'd like a right image better? You cannot see a second insect there, but you could see a shadow of that bigger ant. If you do not like either image, I still will be interested to learn which one of them you like better, or, should I say, which one of them you dislike less. Thanks.--Mbz116:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)Mbz1[reply]
Opposeboth The first one has harsh lighting and a bad background. The second version is a lot better, has a good wow factor, but has poor technical quality. There is a lot of jpeg artifacts (or noise?) and is not very sharp. ----Digon3talk20:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Info created by Luc Viatour - uploaded by Luc Viatour - nominated by --Luc Viatour 07:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Support --Luc Viatour 07:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Neutral - I agree concerning the overexposed whites - Charlessauer 22 May 2007
Question Why do you say that? 
Oppose - Yes, composition is beatiful but quality and DOF not good enough. Alvesgaspar 11:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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Comment Aha! Dandelions are never branched see this one and this one for instance. Lycaon 12:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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Info: Just upload the edited image with a similar file name, copy the image description and replace the source section of the template by “Photograph by Mila Zinkova, edited by Keta”. --norro 11:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
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Focus where it matters --Tony Wills 12:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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I withdraw my nomination Should be rule of fifth day soon anyway. -- Ram-Man 12:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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and . I agree we don't seem to have a good shot of it in space. Ben Aveling 02:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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