Commons:Deletion requests/File:Earthrise over Compton crater -LRO full res.jpg

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File:Earthrise over Compton crater -LRO full res.jpg

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An IP deleted the license and replaced it with: The image in question is not in the public domain. The NASA PDS available image is in the public domain, the processed image is the intellectual property of the Arizona State University. Please feel free to download the various image products and render your own image to understand the tremendous effort that went into planning, capturing and then processing the acquired images into the results. I guess this warrants the review of the license. Jarekt (talk) 14:08, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

NASA images, captured by missions funded by taxpayer dollars, have always been public domain. The participation of university partners has never changed this. The effort that went into processing the image is immaterial; restricting the number of people who can view the image would only defeat the purpose of that effort. Sorry, why would comments from an anonymous ip address that cite nothing even be taken seriously to the point of opening a discussion? WolfmanSF (talk) 17:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing in the image credits or the hosting web site that I can find that would suggest this is a copyrighted image. Unless specific evidence can be brought forward that this is not a public domain image, what is there to debate? Why should we be required to disprove a baseless assertion? WolfmanSF (talk) 17:35, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reply to WolfmanSF: I interpreted communication from IP as an effort to request license review. I agree with you that this is PD image but lets have few people look at it to make sure we have consensus. --Jarekt (talk) 18:52, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Amount of effort is irrelevant to copyright, but was any of the effort creative? Were there any artistic decisions involved? For example, the contrast and saturation seem higher than other Earthrise-type images: is that a creative decision, or the result of different photographic equipment? --Carnildo (talk) 01:36, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete: On further review, there's some definite creative effort here. In particular, the choice of mapping orange, yellow-green, and violet spectral bands to the RGB of the image, and the separate contrast-stretching of the Moon and the Earth are both creative decisions, rather than technical ones. --Carnildo (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How does that have any bearing on whether the image is public domain? Lots of processed NASA images have "creative" touches that do not prevent them from being public domain. The issue of what the contractual relationship between the university and NASA is under which the image was created would seem to be paramount. Are the "creative" Johns Hopkins-processed images of Pluto also not public domain? WolfmanSF (talk) 03:39, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't provided enough information for a meaningful comment on the other situations you bring up. Copyright is complicated, even before you bring in the complexities of contracts. --Carnildo (talk) 02:57, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that either of those are copyright generating. Taking three inputs and mapping them to three outputs in the logical, color-preserving manner is not creative, and playing with contrast is not usually considered copyrightable either.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:18, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep This review, in my view, is an abuse of process. No anonymous poster that makes claims they do not back up with evidence should be allowed to initiate a review. I found no indication on the ASU web site that the image has a copyright. The image also appears on a NASA web site without an indication of a copyright, and similarly on APOD. Both the latter sites are generally very careful to mention copyrights when they exist. NASA explicitly states that "NASA material is not protected by copyright unless noted." in their image use policy. While NASA's PDS data is all public domain, their press release images generally are also. WolfmanSF (talk) 09:00, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep The credit line of the image is "NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University". Because it begins with "NASA", it means that the image is a NASA image and is therefore in public domain. Ruslik (talk) 19:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment A derivative work of a file in the public domain, does not necessarily give a free file. If the image is indeed a derivative work, even of a Nasa free file, then it is a new work and the Arizona State University can indeed apply a more restrictive licensing on their work. I'm not able to see the licensing at the source. If there is no an explicit free license then we should presume it's not free. Christian Ferrer (talk) 22:03, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The image credits are in the caption below the image on the on the university-managed web site (NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University), and at the bottom of the image feature web entry on the NASA site (NASA/Goddard/Arizona State University). We're not talking about a derivative work here. WolfmanSF (talk) 04:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: This DR didn't create significant doubt. --Natuur12 (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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