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I also agree that the part of article is prejudiced. I actually live in Moscow and have seen most of the metro stations many times, and few of them have any Stalin-related symbolism, and half of them don't have any Socialist symbolism in general. Even when there are things like Soviet coat of arms, etc., they are not dominating motive. The style also is not usually some specially "Socialistic", lot of them resemble classical old-fashioned palaces, and different stations have very different styles. Sources familiar to me say that the idea of making the stations' design individual was born so that people wouldn't feel depressed or frightened to be underground. [[User:Aranelle|Aranelle]] ([[User talk:Aranelle|talk]]) 10:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 
==== How should I discuss Moscow Metro's style, architecture? ====
Oh! And here's something to discuss. I believe "tasteless opulent manors" attributed to Russian ''oligarchs'', actually use the motiffs of both pre-Khrushov's and post-Khrushov's Moscow Metro (as in "one design goes across the whole station, every column is the same, yet every station is designed to be unique, and feel different"). '''''I kno-o-ow''''' there is this synthetic phrase "Stalin's ampir", but I think it is too far-fetched from crimson-rich "ampir" cabinets; the stations were never featuring wood-and-alizarin combinations and almost completely lacked dark wood decorations - something which characterizes ampir design. In fact, I cannot remeber any alizarin-colored Stalin-era station in Moscow's downtown.
 
== [[Moscow Metro#The Moscow Metro as a Reflection of Stalinist Ideology|The Moscow Metro as a Reflection of Stalinist Ideology]] ==
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:Although the map design winner, ArtLebedev, did suggest to rename Line L1 to Line 12, as long as the official site still call it L1[http//mosmetro.ru/], we retain the naming/numbering, otherwise that constitutes [[WP:original research|original research]]. Hence, I highly suggest we revert the icon images of Butovskaya Line too. -- [[User:Sameboat|Sameboat - 同舟]] ([[User talk:Sameboat|talk]]) 01:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
::This map is already used in the metro and the line is signed as 12 in it but most old signage with L1 is still not replaced. Also Butovskaya line is no more referred as "light metro", now it's just one of the 12 lines of the metro system. [[Special:Contributions/95.73.126.251|95.73.126.251]] ([[User talk:95.73.126.251|talk]]) 20:41, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
::: Can confirm, Butovo Line is #12 now, while Monorail is #13 (which is ... so weird it "deserves" #13 designation for being slow and overpriced). <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Uchyotka|Uchyotka]] ([[User talk:Uchyotka#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uchyotka|contribs]]) 09:03, 7 August 2020 (UTC)</small>
 
== Biased and unacceptable article ==
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== Moscow Metro "own" style and "atmosphere" discussion ==
Aside from neutrality debate, I would like to discuss something about Moscow Metro: its Stalin-era stations were full of decor; something almost not used in not-rich country USSR was. One of my sources: Design.ru studeo creator, Artemiy Lebedev, also has a site designated solely for Moscow Metro design, literally "metro.ru". [[User:Uchyotka|Uchyotka]] ([[User talk:Uchyotka|talk]]) 08:39, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 
==== How should I discuss Moscow Metro's style, architecture? ====
Oh! And here's something to discuss. I believe "tasteless opulent manors" attributed to Russian ''oligarchs'', actually use the motiffs of both pre-Khrushov's and post-Khrushov's Moscow Metro (as in "one design goes across the whole station, every column is the same, yet every station is designed to be unique, and feel different"). '''''I kno-o-ow''''' there is this synthetic phrase "Stalin's ampir", but I think it is too far-fetched from crimson-rich "ampir" cabinets; the stations were never featuring wood-and-alizarin combinations and almost completely lacked dark wood decorations - something which characterizes ampir design. In fact, I cannot remeber any alizarin-colored Stalin-era station in Moscow's downtown. [[User:Uchyotka|Uchyotka]] ([[User talk:Uchyotka|talk]]) 08:39, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 
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the history section, in particular the description of the different stages of station construction, is largely uncited, features excessive and at times out of place block quotes, and sometimes includes bullet point lists (and italics) for seemingly no reason. Could someone, preferably the original author, add necessary citations and do some reformatting? I tried improving the layout somewhat, but I'm not familiar enough with the sources used to do any substantial revisions of the text itself.
PS: I added a TOC limit to reduce the amount of blank space caused by the long TOC and long infobox, but for some reason the Notable incidents subheadings still appear for some reason, if anyone more knowledgeable could fix that.
--[[User:Jonas1015119|jonas]] ([[User talk:Jonas1015119|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 13:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)</small>
 
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