User talk:Jarmanj Turtash

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Mordvins

Hello Khazar. I see what you mean. However, the reason I moved Volgaic Finns to Mordvins is because the former term refers to Maris, Mokshans, and Erzyans, while the latter refers to only Mokshans and Erzyans. What do you propose we do about the page? First off I would suggest that you cite sources showing which POV is used by most mainstream scholars on this issue. Do most of them see the Mordvins as a single ethnic group or simply a label created by the Soviets? The fact remains that sources such as Britannica seem to use the term "Mordvins", so we simply can't delete the page. Please let me know what your thoughts are on a proposed solution. Khoikhoi 00:48, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure, sounds good. Do any scholars believe that Mordvins are in fact a single ethnic group? Khoikhoi 22:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think anyone disputes that the Moksha language and Erzya language are different. For example, you will notice that Mordvin language redirects to Mordvinic languages, which says "The term Mordvin language is mistakenly used for the Erzya language and Moksha language (both are related, but different languages)." Thank you for providing a list of the scholars. What do you think about Dbachmann's suggestion here to state Mordvins as an exonym? Khoikhoi 19:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I never redirected Moksha people and Erzya people to Mordvins. If you look at the two histories of those articles ([1], [2]), it is clear that Dbachmann did. Why don't you leave a message on his talk page? Khoikhoi 20:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

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I'd love to help, but this is not a topic I know much about, so I'm afraid my opinion on that talk page will not be of much value. Sorry.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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Erzya and Moksha Mordvins

Please comment: Talk:Mordvins#A_way_forward. Thanks!--Termer (talk) 16:31, 15 October 2008 (UTC)