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Why exactly is this section here? Am I wrong in thinking that it is a little out-of-the-ordinary, and somewhat jarring? If it is worthy of being a section unto itself (or included in the way that it is) it should at the very least be expanded with a couple more lines from the poem and some more context. Frankly, though, it seems like unless the excerpt is necessary in reference to something else it's fairly extraneous. Someone that wants an example of her poetry need merely go to an external source - it's not as though "We Real Cool" is hard to find. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.81.91.112|208.81.91.112]] ([[User talk:208.81.91.112|talk]]) 07:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Why exactly is this section here? Am I wrong in thinking that it is a little out-of-the-ordinary, and somewhat jarring? If it is worthy of being a section unto itself (or included in the way that it is) it should at the very least be expanded with a couple more lines from the poem and some more context. Frankly, though, it seems like unless the excerpt is necessary in reference to something else it's fairly extraneous. Someone that wants an example of her poetry need merely go to an external source - it's not as though "We Real Cool" is hard to find. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.81.91.112|208.81.91.112]] ([[User talk:208.81.91.112|talk]]) 07:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I don't like it either, and the use of the quote box seems inappropriate here—aren't those designed for sidebars and such? If we're going to have an excerpt, it should one (or more) of her most well-known pieces, with a discussion of how that quote exemplifies her style. For now, though, I'm okay with simply removing the entire section. [[User:Aristophanes68|< |
:I don't like it either, and the use of the quote box seems inappropriate here—aren't those designed for sidebars and such? If we're going to have an excerpt, it should one (or more) of her most well-known pieces, with a discussion of how that quote exemplifies her style. For now, though, I'm okay with simply removing the entire section. [[User:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:magenta;">'''Aristophanes'''</span><span style="color:teal;">'''68'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:teal;">''(talk)''</span>]] 14:22, 23 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:Wow -- that was some vandalism from a few months back that never got caught. Thanks for pointing it out! [[User:Aristophanes68|< |
:Wow -- that was some vandalism from a few months back that never got caught. Thanks for pointing it out! [[User:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:magenta;">'''Aristophanes'''</span><span style="color:teal;">'''68'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:teal;">''(talk)''</span>]] 16:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC) |
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== Clay College? == |
== Clay College? == |
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When I google "Clay College of New York", the only hits I get are to biographies of Brooks. When I google "Clay College", I get a school in New Jersey. Does anyone know what school this "Clay College of New York" refers to? I assume it is either defunct or has changed names, but it's odd that I can't find any mention of it outside of Brooks. Help? [[User:Aristophanes68|< |
When I google "Clay College of New York", the only hits I get are to biographies of Brooks. When I google "Clay College", I get a school in New Jersey. Does anyone know what school this "Clay College of New York" refers to? I assume it is either defunct or has changed names, but it's odd that I can't find any mention of it outside of Brooks. Help? [[User:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:magenta;">'''Aristophanes'''</span><span style="color:teal;">'''68'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:teal;">''(talk)''</span>]] 15:02, 23 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:''Update'': several biographies mention that she taught at City College of New York, so I'm betting that's what was meant here. [[User:Aristophanes68|< |
:''Update'': several biographies mention that she taught at City College of New York, so I'm betting that's what was meant here. [[User:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:magenta;">'''Aristophanes'''</span><span style="color:teal;">'''68'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<span style="color:teal;">''(talk)''</span>]] 16:03, 23 August 2014 (UTC) |
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* ''Negro Hero'' (1945) |
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* ''The Mother'' (1945) |
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* ''A Street in Bronzeville'' (1945) |
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* ''The Children of the Poor'' (1949) |
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* ''[[Annie Allen]]'' (1950) |
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* ''[[Maud Martha]]'' (1953) (Fiction) |
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* ''Bronzeville Boys and Girls'' (1956) |
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* ''The Bean Eaters'' (1960) |
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* ''Selected Poems'' (1963) |
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* ''A Song in the Front Yard (1963) |
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* ''[[We Real Cool]]'' (1966) |
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* ''In the Mecca'' (1968) |
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* ''Malcolm X'' (1968) |
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* ''Riot'' (1969) |
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* ''Family Pictures'' (1970) |
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* ''Black Steel: Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali'' (1971) |
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* ''The World of Gwendolyn Brooks'' (1971) |
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* ''Aloneness'' (1971) |
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* ''Report from Part One: An Autobiography'' (1972) (Prose) |
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* ''A Capsule Course in Black Poetry Writing'' (1975) (Prose) |
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* ''Aurora'' (1972) |
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* ''Beckonings'' (1975) |
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* ''Other Music'' (1976) |
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* ''Black Love'' (1981) |
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* ''To Disembark'' (1981) |
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* ''Primer for Blacks'' (1981) (Prose) |
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* ''Young Poet's Primer'' (1981) (Prose) |
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* ''Very Young Poets'' (1983) (Prose) |
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* ''The Near-Johannesburg Boy and Other Poems'' (1986) |
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* ''Blacks'' (1987) |
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* ''Winnie'' (1988) |
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* ''Children Coming Home'' (1991) |
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* ''Report From Part Two'' (1996) |
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* ''In Montgomery'' (2000) |
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Gwendolyn Brooks
[edit]http://www.zphib1920.org/heritage/notable_zetas.html
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=7762&page=3&highlight=brooks
How many Guggenheim Fellowships has she recieved?
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gwendolyn brooks
[edit]why gwendolyn brooks encycleopedia does not have an infobox with the date of birth,and the place where she was born,and the date of death,and the place of death,added with how old she was
gwendolyn brooks
[edit]why gwendolyn brooks encycleopedia does not have an infobox with the date of birth,and the place where she was born,and the date of death,and the place of death,added with how old she was —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.158.190 (talk) 19:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
gwendolyn brooks
[edit]when y'all was printing encycleopedias,why did y'all forgot to put and infomation box on gwendolyn brooksʔ when y'all get ready,can you put an infomation box on gwendolyn brooks ʔ when y'all put the infomation box on gwendolyn brooks,can y'all put when and where she was born and when and when she diedʔ here's an example; born= june 7,1917 topekka,kanas [united states] died= december 3,2000 chicago,illinois[aged 83] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.120.227 (talk) 20:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
3 year old poetry genius!!!! (apparently)
[edit]It says in the info box that she was born on 1917, yet her writing period began in 1917. That can't be right. Are you sure she started writing poems at 3 years old? It doesn't seem to make sense, but I guess it could happen.99.54.173.160 (talk) 04:38, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
hi
[edit]hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.65.226 (talk) 18:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
references
[edit]This reads like an essay (and quite a good one, actually). But it needs references. Is it mostly derived from a single source, or WP:OR, or compiled from WP:RS but the refs not added? DavidOaks (talk) 19:15, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Excerpt
[edit]Why exactly is this section here? Am I wrong in thinking that it is a little out-of-the-ordinary, and somewhat jarring? If it is worthy of being a section unto itself (or included in the way that it is) it should at the very least be expanded with a couple more lines from the poem and some more context. Frankly, though, it seems like unless the excerpt is necessary in reference to something else it's fairly extraneous. Someone that wants an example of her poetry need merely go to an external source - it's not as though "We Real Cool" is hard to find. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.81.91.112 (talk) 07:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- I don't like it either, and the use of the quote box seems inappropriate here—aren't those designed for sidebars and such? If we're going to have an excerpt, it should one (or more) of her most well-known pieces, with a discussion of how that quote exemplifies her style. For now, though, I'm okay with simply removing the entire section. Aristophanes68 (talk) 14:22, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
What is a "children's life box"?
[edit]74.96.36.168 (talk) 14:04, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Wow -- that was some vandalism from a few months back that never got caught. Thanks for pointing it out! Aristophanes68 (talk) 16:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Clay College?
[edit]When I google "Clay College of New York", the only hits I get are to biographies of Brooks. When I google "Clay College", I get a school in New Jersey. Does anyone know what school this "Clay College of New York" refers to? I assume it is either defunct or has changed names, but it's odd that I can't find any mention of it outside of Brooks. Help? Aristophanes68 (talk) 15:02, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Update: several biographies mention that she taught at City College of New York, so I'm betting that's what was meant here. Aristophanes68 (talk) 16:03, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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How is gwendolynbrooks.net related to Gwendolyn Brooks?
[edit]The External Links section contains a link to www.gwendolynbrooks.net but it is not clear who owns that site, what its exact purpose is nor what its relationship with the author is other than that it tries to make money using the author's name. Should that link even be kept on the site? --ChristopheS (talk) 18:26, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. I will review this soon. — The Most Comfortable Chair 19:34, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
I had begun reviewing this when I realized that the article is a long way from meeting criteria 3a, among other minor issues.
For an article on the first African American to receive a Pulitzer Prize, it does not discuss her poetry style and structuring, themes and inspirations, impact of her works in the field, and if she inspired other poets/writers. Nearly half her article talks about her early life, and the other half about her career and family — the part about her career reads somewhat superficial even if it seems to cover most major events in her life. The article also lacks information about what she did after the 1960s, creating a void in her biographical details of about three decades (with one exception), and it seems that her works kept getting published. All in all, it is my understanding that there is a significant amount of content that the article should have on her, especially focusing on analysis and impact of her works, and about her career in general. Since she is a recent poet, it will not be too difficult to find sources for that.
Some sources are not very reliable — Hancock, Bill references this Wikipedia article, for instance. There are also some reference formatting issues, with missing basic parameters and some mix-up of work v. publisher. The "Works" section should be modeled as "Selected works" with inclusion of all her important works, if a complete bibliography would be too long to include. There is also some mild close paraphrasing in a sentence or two that could be resolved using the Earwig's tool.
When working on an article for a GA nomination, it is a good idea to look at current GAs or FAs for structuring ideas and to get a gist of how much content it would require to adequately represent a topic. Emily Dickinson, Philip Larkin, and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, for instance have a decent amount of coverage of their careers, poetry analysis, critical reception, and impact. Given the recognition she received, things that are listed in "Honors and legacy", and her significance as an individual, a lot more can and should be mentioned about her life and works.
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- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
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- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- While the prose quality is decent and the article covers a good amount of important things that there are to cover pertaining to Brooks' biographical details, the scope of the article is broader than that and it needs significant work that is outside the range of improvements one would be expected to make during a good article review. I am afraid I will have to fail this nomination this time. I am available for more input and to help out in any way that I can. Thank you. — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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