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==Untitled== |
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Official source cited in the 2007 edit are no longer present. Withstanding evidence, including the official Funimation site, Netflix page, and Funimation YouTube channel all include a capitalized X in the title. This is what the title of the Wikipedia page should also represent so as not to confuse most readers. [[User:SJCrew|SJCrew]] ([[User talk:SJCrew|talk]]) 01:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't Meryssa be spelled Melissa? |
Shouldn't Meryssa be spelled Melissa? |
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# I almost went back on myself with the 'x' thing, but then I found [http://www.geneonanimation.com/MainContentPage.aspx?PageUID=768caa62-0bbe-47ec-97e1-9f639501965d&NewsID=6d4baea7-9eb0-494c-bc2e-99c599e68294 an English press release from Geneon]. No '×' in the title AND it's decapped (look in the actual text body). --[[User:SeizureDog|SeizureDog]] 15:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC) |
# I almost went back on myself with the 'x' thing, but then I found [http://www.geneonanimation.com/MainContentPage.aspx?PageUID=768caa62-0bbe-47ec-97e1-9f639501965d&NewsID=6d4baea7-9eb0-494c-bc2e-99c599e68294 an English press release from Geneon]. No '×' in the title AND it's decapped (look in the actual text body). --[[User:SeizureDog|SeizureDog]] 15:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::In ''Gun X Sword'''s upcoming first official English language TV premiere on [[Animax]] (in its English language networks across Southeast Asia from March 26, 2007); the series is titled as '''''Gun X Sword'''''; see: [http://www.animax-asia.com/ Animax Asia official site] for confirmation. Also, noted resources such as [[Anime News Network]] & Animenfo.com each cite the title as Gun X Sword, therefore most certainly, the title ''Gun X Sword'' is more widely in use (and thus, a part of common usage and therefore to be preferred per [[WP:MOS-JA]]), rather than ''Gun Sword''. Anime News Network also cites that Geneon, the North American distributors, themselves actually cite that the X is '''part of the logo/title'''; see [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4920 ANN entry] - and both Geneon's and Madman's English-language DVD releases also cite the title as ''Gun X Sword''; see [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/reviews/display.php?id=998 ANN DVD 1] & [http://www.madman.com.au/actions/series.do?method=view&videogramId=3565 Madman] pages for confirmation. Therefore, in view of all the above points I have cited and the fact that it is the correct ''title'', I propose that the title be changed instead to ''Gun X Sword''. ···[[User:Ganryuu|< |
::In ''Gun X Sword'''s upcoming first official English language TV premiere on [[Animax]] (in its English language networks across Southeast Asia from March 26, 2007); the series is titled as '''''Gun X Sword'''''; see: [http://www.animax-asia.com/ Animax Asia official site] for confirmation. Also, noted resources such as [[Anime News Network]] & Animenfo.com each cite the title as Gun X Sword, therefore most certainly, the title ''Gun X Sword'' is more widely in use (and thus, a part of common usage and therefore to be preferred per [[WP:MOS-JA]]), rather than ''Gun Sword''. Anime News Network also cites that Geneon, the North American distributors, themselves actually cite that the X is '''part of the logo/title'''; see [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4920 ANN entry] - and both Geneon's and Madman's English-language DVD releases also cite the title as ''Gun X Sword''; see [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/reviews/display.php?id=998 ANN DVD 1] & [http://www.madman.com.au/actions/series.do?method=view&videogramId=3565 Madman] pages for confirmation. Therefore, in view of all the above points I have cited and the fact that it is the correct ''title'', I propose that the title be changed instead to ''Gun X Sword''. ···[[User:Ganryuu|<span style="color:darkblue;">巌流</span>]]<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]] · <small>[[User talk:Ganryuu|<span style="color:blue;">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:darkblue;">to</span> [[WP:JA|Gan]][[WP:MOS-JA|<span style="color:darkgreen;">ryuu</span>]]</small></sup> 22:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC) |
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*First of all, much of ANN's infomation is based off of user submissions, just like Wikipedia. It also lists many entries differently from us. |
*First of all, much of ANN's infomation is based off of user submissions, just like Wikipedia. It also lists many entries differently from us. |
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*Citing the "just part of the logo" works against you, as [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks)]] states "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words (e.g. ♥ used for "love"). In the article about a trademark, it is acceptable to use decorative characters the first time the trademark appears, but thereafter, an alternative that follows the standard rules of punctuation should be used" If it's not pronouced, it's decoration. |
*Citing the "just part of the logo" works against you, as [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks)]] states "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words (e.g. ♥ used for "love"). In the article about a trademark, it is acceptable to use decorative characters the first time the trademark appears, but thereafter, an alternative that follows the standard rules of punctuation should be used" If it's not pronouced, it's decoration. |
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*More official writings of the title: [http://geneonanimation.com/MainContentPage.aspx?PageUID=57464a8a-7851-4ec0-9b3c-1b73a1715e80&CatUID=7e51ecae-1202-4cf7-bba0-0c37b9953f93&Letter=G&TitleType=bc3bba18-208c-4534-9697-f3719fd13683&Title=d2888d54-42e2-496a-a735-22c1d6d3029c&ctl_BrowseGridpg=0 Geneon's official page], the NewType quote on that page, [http://www.gunsworddvd.com/ official website for the DVDs], and [http://www.deadzoom.com/member/joremama/gun2.jpg the back of the DVDs themselves] (I'm not quite sure what it says, but last thing listed in the credits clearly says "Gun [no X] Sword ''something'' [partners?]). In short, it is more consistantly 'X'-less officially.--[[User:SeizureDog|SeizureDog]] 23:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC) |
*More official writings of the title: [http://geneonanimation.com/MainContentPage.aspx?PageUID=57464a8a-7851-4ec0-9b3c-1b73a1715e80&CatUID=7e51ecae-1202-4cf7-bba0-0c37b9953f93&Letter=G&TitleType=bc3bba18-208c-4534-9697-f3719fd13683&Title=d2888d54-42e2-496a-a735-22c1d6d3029c&ctl_BrowseGridpg=0 Geneon's official page], the NewType quote on that page, [http://www.gunsworddvd.com/ official website for the DVDs], and [http://www.deadzoom.com/member/joremama/gun2.jpg the back of the DVDs themselves] (I'm not quite sure what it says, but last thing listed in the credits clearly says "Gun [no X] Sword ''something'' [partners?]). In short, it is more consistantly 'X'-less officially.--[[User:SeizureDog|SeizureDog]] 23:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==New Article== |
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I have moved most of the information regarding characters and armors to its own article, titled [[List of Gun Sword characters]]. I've also added some pictures to this article. Hope it is okay, I felt the character descriptions were a little to detailed for a article regarding the anime series in general. If this is not okay, just say the word and I'll reverse the changes. |
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[[User:Michae2109|Michae2109]] 04:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC) |
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== Regarding Priscilla == |
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Priscilla is pronounced "Pris-cil-la" right? Most of the articles (including Brownie) spelled her name Pricilla without the "s". I think her name is spelt Priscilla, not Pricilla. Should I edit this? If anyone find this true, please do the edits if I haven't already. =) [[User:Piecemealcranky|Piecemealcranky]] 05:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Merger == |
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Seems the exact same content is contained on both [[Gun Sword]] and [[Gun X Sword]]. Also note that the talk page for [[Talk:Gun X Sword]] Redirects to [[Talk:Gun Sword]]. [[User:OverlordQ|OverlordQ]] 08:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Meh, I went ahead and move the one section that was different to [[Gun Sword]] and redirected [[Gun X Sword]] to [[Gun Sword]] [[User:OverlordQ|OverlordQ]] 08:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Review(s) == |
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*Mania.com: [http://www.mania.com/gun-x-sword-complete-collection_article_125155.html Complete DVD collection] |
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*Active Anime: [http://www.activeanime.com/html/content/view/7406/36/ Complete DVD] |
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*ANN: [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/shelf-life/2011-02-28#vashgel Shelf Life Complete DVD] |
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--[[User:KrebMarkt|KrebMarkt]] ([[User talk:KrebMarkt|talk]]) 19:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Title ambiguity == |
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This article refers to the anime by no less than four names. The article is titled "Gun Sword", the first line names it as "GUN×SWORD", and the text refers to it mainly as "Gun X Sword" (Uppercase X), with one "Gun x Sword" (Lowercase x). IIRC, Wikipedia style guidelines place significant value on self-consistency. Although having four different names seems unacceptable, I'm hesitant to chose one, because the majority is "Gun X Sword", while the article was preciously moved away from that name. [[User:Techhead0|Techhead0]] ([[User talk:Techhead0|talk]]) 07:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC) |
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Untitled
[edit]Official source cited in the 2007 edit are no longer present. Withstanding evidence, including the official Funimation site, Netflix page, and Funimation YouTube channel all include a capitalized X in the title. This is what the title of the Wikipedia page should also represent so as not to confuse most readers. SJCrew (talk) 01:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't Meryssa be spelled Melissa?
How about moving the Amigos into the Heroes category and (temporarily) delete the other category altogether? Considering they are currently in a similar position to Priscilla, I think they should be categorised similarly. Just a thought
I was wondering whether or not this anime was considered seinen or shonen. It isn't mentioned anywhere in the Gun X Sword article or seinen or shonen's respective articles. IMO its a seinen but I wouldn't call myself qualified at all.
Title changes
[edit]The article has been moved from GUN×SWORD to Gun Sword for the following reasons:
- The '×' (or 'x', or 'X') is not present in the English title anywhere on the official page. The '×' is given only in the katakana title.
- Since the '×' in unpronnouced, it is most likely just a fancy way of creating a space. Therefor, the correct way to romanize it would be not to include it at all. Middle dots are used in much the same way.
- Since the title is in all caps with no internal lowercase letters, policy dictates that it follows normal English standards. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks):
"Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment" --SeizureDog 14:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC) - I almost went back on myself with the 'x' thing, but then I found an English press release from Geneon. No '×' in the title AND it's decapped (look in the actual text body). --SeizureDog 15:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- In Gun X Sword's upcoming first official English language TV premiere on Animax (in its English language networks across Southeast Asia from March 26, 2007); the series is titled as Gun X Sword; see: Animax Asia official site for confirmation. Also, noted resources such as Anime News Network & Animenfo.com each cite the title as Gun X Sword, therefore most certainly, the title Gun X Sword is more widely in use (and thus, a part of common usage and therefore to be preferred per WP:MOS-JA), rather than Gun Sword. Anime News Network also cites that Geneon, the North American distributors, themselves actually cite that the X is part of the logo/title; see ANN entry - and both Geneon's and Madman's English-language DVD releases also cite the title as Gun X Sword; see ANN DVD 1 & Madman pages for confirmation. Therefore, in view of all the above points I have cited and the fact that it is the correct title, I propose that the title be changed instead to Gun X Sword. ···巌流? · Talk to Ganryuu 22:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- First of all, much of ANN's infomation is based off of user submissions, just like Wikipedia. It also lists many entries differently from us.
- Citing the "just part of the logo" works against you, as Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) states "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words (e.g. ♥ used for "love"). In the article about a trademark, it is acceptable to use decorative characters the first time the trademark appears, but thereafter, an alternative that follows the standard rules of punctuation should be used" If it's not pronouced, it's decoration.
- More official writings of the title: Geneon's official page, the NewType quote on that page, official website for the DVDs, and the back of the DVDs themselves (I'm not quite sure what it says, but last thing listed in the credits clearly says "Gun [no X] Sword something [partners?]). In short, it is more consistantly 'X'-less officially.--SeizureDog 23:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
New Article
[edit]I have moved most of the information regarding characters and armors to its own article, titled List of Gun Sword characters. I've also added some pictures to this article. Hope it is okay, I felt the character descriptions were a little to detailed for a article regarding the anime series in general. If this is not okay, just say the word and I'll reverse the changes. Michae2109 04:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Regarding Priscilla
[edit]Priscilla is pronounced "Pris-cil-la" right? Most of the articles (including Brownie) spelled her name Pricilla without the "s". I think her name is spelt Priscilla, not Pricilla. Should I edit this? If anyone find this true, please do the edits if I haven't already. =) Piecemealcranky 05:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Merger
[edit]Seems the exact same content is contained on both Gun Sword and Gun X Sword. Also note that the talk page for Talk:Gun X Sword Redirects to Talk:Gun Sword. OverlordQ 08:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Meh, I went ahead and move the one section that was different to Gun Sword and redirected Gun X Sword to Gun Sword OverlordQ 08:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Review(s)
[edit]- Mania.com: Complete DVD collection
- Active Anime: Complete DVD
- ANN: Shelf Life Complete DVD
--KrebMarkt (talk) 19:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Title ambiguity
[edit]This article refers to the anime by no less than four names. The article is titled "Gun Sword", the first line names it as "GUN×SWORD", and the text refers to it mainly as "Gun X Sword" (Uppercase X), with one "Gun x Sword" (Lowercase x). IIRC, Wikipedia style guidelines place significant value on self-consistency. Although having four different names seems unacceptable, I'm hesitant to chose one, because the majority is "Gun X Sword", while the article was preciously moved away from that name. Techhead0 (talk) 07:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)