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::As far as I can see only about three of these are even RS. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
::As far as I can see only about three of these are even RS. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::Also I can't recall what the problems may have been, but the RS are not about him, they just quote him. Thus I am unsure we can write an article about him based on them. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
::Also I can't recall what the problems may have been, but the RS are not about him, they just quote him. Thus I am unsure we can write an article about him based on them. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) 14:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:Found some more coverage: |
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:* https://www.popsci.com/story/health/vegan-zoonotic-diseases-covid-coronavirus/ |
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:* https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2022/02/why-are-vegans-so-reviled |
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:* https://cornellsun.com/2019/04/11/speaker-asks-why-do-we-love-dogs-eat-cows-and-wear-sheep/ |
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:* https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/this-is-vegan-propaganda-by-ed-winters-review-hmxtxgtv8 |
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:* https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/rachel-johnson/vegan-youtuber-ed-winters-weighs-in-on-kurt-zoumas-cat-abuse/ |
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:* https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/viral-vegan-activist-plans-school-visit-9295855/ |
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:* https://www.hot-dinners.com/201910098920/Gastroblog/Latest-news/unity-diner-earthling-ed-wentworth-street-spitalfields |
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:* https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/ed-winters-vegan-propaganda-32706013 |
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:* https://www.bigissue.com/culture/books/meet-earthling-ed-the-vegan-debater-and-activist-exposing-lies-of-the-meat-industry/ |
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:* https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/01/27/every-argument-for-killing-animals-debunked-the-ethical-case-for-veganism |
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:* https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/01/22/how-can-we-prevent-another-pandemic-go-vegan |
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:* https://stanforddaily.com/2022/02/02/the-teachers-of-white-plaza/ |
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:Yes, I know that not all of the places I have posted links from count as "reliable sources", but some do, and also the other sources are here to show additional coverage of the subject and his activities since the last deletion review. [[User:Gottagotospace|Gottagotospace]] ([[User talk:Gottagotospace|talk]]) 15:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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I supported its deletion formerly. However, when I'm back with the articles that it was used (like 2020–21 Brisbane Heat WBBL season, 2022–23 Brisbane Heat WBBL season), I feel something is missing, especially the logo. I'm not sure that contents described in these articles can make readers understand without the logo. Kys5g talk! 03:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Endorse: DR isn't really a place to try to re-argue an FFD per WP:CLOSECHALLENGE, and it's not clear how the closer's close might've been incorrect given the "delete" !votes (based on items 14 and 17 of WP:NFC#UUI) posted in the FFD. Perhaps the closer should've been asked about this and given a chance to respond before bringing this up for discussion here since it probably would have saved some time and effort. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Endorse Nonsensical nomination which fails to explain why the close at FfD was allegedly incorrect. As Marchjuly correctly noted above, DRV is not FfD redux. Also noting for the record that Kys5g failed to consult Explicit before jumping straight to DRV. -Fastily 09:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Since the deletion discussion in 2020, the subject has become more notable and received more media coverage, and I believe he now meets notability guidelines. Even from a three-minute Google search, I found plenty:
- https://epigram.org.uk/veganism-is-about-challenging-our-normality-i/
- https://www.brandeis.edu/cges/news-events/spring-2021/210406_earthling_ed.html
- https://www.theblairpartnership.com/clients/ed-winters-earthling-ed/
- https://www.richroll.com/podcast/ed-winters-670/
- https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/10/20/earthling-ed/
- https://www.bristol247.com/culture/books/vegan-activist-and-author-ed-winters-explains-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater/
- https://uk.news.yahoo.com/vegan-propaganda-author-ed-winters-082852730.html?guccounter=1
- https://indico.cern.ch/event/1175627/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBtYtuYxJ0
- https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/mar/05/vegan-bros-busting-myth-that-real-men-eat-meat
- https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/sep/13/the-case-against-pets-is-it-time-to-give-up-our-cats-and-dogs
I do admit I'm a little biased because I am a vegan myself, but I'm unbiased enough to know not every animal rights activist is notable enough to have their own article. Ed isn't even my favorite vegan activist (my favorite is someone who is not notable enough to get her own article yet), but I recognize that Ed is one of the most prominent modern vegan activists. I can provide more information if requested, but I think this is enough to at least start the discussion. Gottagotospace (talk) 14:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have just notified all editors involved in the 2020 deletion discussion that I opened this deletion review, except those who have been blocked or those who seem to no longer be active on Wikipedia (based on me checking contributions history). Gottagotospace (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can see only about three of these are even RS. Slatersteven (talk) 14:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also I can't recall what the problems may have been, but the RS are not about him, they just quote him. Thus I am unsure we can write an article about him based on them. Slatersteven (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Found some more coverage:
- https://www.popsci.com/story/health/vegan-zoonotic-diseases-covid-coronavirus/
- https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2022/02/why-are-vegans-so-reviled
- https://cornellsun.com/2019/04/11/speaker-asks-why-do-we-love-dogs-eat-cows-and-wear-sheep/
- https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/this-is-vegan-propaganda-by-ed-winters-review-hmxtxgtv8
- https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/rachel-johnson/vegan-youtuber-ed-winters-weighs-in-on-kurt-zoumas-cat-abuse/
- https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/viral-vegan-activist-plans-school-visit-9295855/
- https://www.hot-dinners.com/201910098920/Gastroblog/Latest-news/unity-diner-earthling-ed-wentworth-street-spitalfields
- https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/ed-winters-vegan-propaganda-32706013
- https://www.bigissue.com/culture/books/meet-earthling-ed-the-vegan-debater-and-activist-exposing-lies-of-the-meat-industry/
- https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/01/27/every-argument-for-killing-animals-debunked-the-ethical-case-for-veganism
- https://www.euronews.com/green/2021/01/22/how-can-we-prevent-another-pandemic-go-vegan
- https://stanforddaily.com/2022/02/02/the-teachers-of-white-plaza/
- Yes, I know that not all of the places I have posted links from count as "reliable sources", but some do, and also the other sources are here to show additional coverage of the subject and his activities since the last deletion review. Gottagotospace (talk) 15:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)