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Another somewhat similar example is that of Elise Andre, a daughter of Irina Belenkaya, a citizen of Russia, and Jean-Michel Andre, a citizen of France. This case is even more interesting because it involves two conflicting court rulings: a French court has given custody to the father, and a Russian court has given custody to the mother. It seems that in March, the mother got two sturdy friends, paid a visit to the father, had the friends beat him up, and attempted to take the child to Russia. She was, however, caught by Hungarian border guards, and is currently waiting for extradition to France for trial of accessory to assault and kidnapping charges. Naturally, she has made a complaint but I don't think it has significant chance of passing -- and the drama contiinuums. [[User:Digwuren|Διγουρεν]]<sub>[[User talk:Digwuren|Εμπρος!]]</sub> 15:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC) |
Another somewhat similar example is that of Elise Andre, a daughter of Irina Belenkaya, a citizen of Russia, and Jean-Michel Andre, a citizen of France. This case is even more interesting because it involves two conflicting court rulings: a French court has given custody to the father, and a Russian court has given custody to the mother. It seems that in March, the mother got two sturdy friends, paid a visit to the father, had the friends beat him up, and attempted to take the child to Russia. She was, however, caught by Hungarian border guards, and is currently waiting for extradition to France for trial of accessory to assault and kidnapping charges. Naturally, she has made a complaint but I don't think it has significant chance of passing -- and the drama contiinuums. [[User:Digwuren|Διγουρεν]]<sub>[[User talk:Digwuren|Εμπρος!]]</sub> 15:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC) |
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This is an illuminating case on Russian bureaucracy at work. Particularly enlightening is the part of expedited citizenship merely to develop a basis for a scandal, or perhaps to save face of a minister. [[User:Digwuren|Διγουρεν]]<sub>[[User talk:Digwuren|Εμπρος!]]</sub> 12:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:32, 20 May 2009
"Kidnapping"
"In criminal law, kidnapping is the taking away or asportation of a person against the person's will, usually to hold the person in false imprisonment, a confinement without legal authority. This may be done for ransom or in furtherance of another crime, or in connection with a child custody dispute."
There is no proof that the boy was taken to Russia against his will, so how can it be kidnapping? Offliner (talk) 07:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- Don't take everything you read on Wikipedia at face value. In medical pages, as the Great Bard used to say, you might die of a misprint. In legal pages, you might serve ten years over capitalisation. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 17:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
BLP concerns
Some people have stated WP:BLP concerns. I have thus moved the article to Anton incident and removed the full name from the article. Most news coverage however mention the full name.
The searches will produce results form the Russain media: "Антон Салонен" and "Антона Салонена". For news: "Антон Салонен". For western media: Anton Salonen.
-- Petri Krohn (talk) 02:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Another somewhat similar example is that of Elise Andre, a daughter of Irina Belenkaya, a citizen of Russia, and Jean-Michel Andre, a citizen of France. This case is even more interesting because it involves two conflicting court rulings: a French court has given custody to the father, and a Russian court has given custody to the mother. It seems that in March, the mother got two sturdy friends, paid a visit to the father, had the friends beat him up, and attempted to take the child to Russia. She was, however, caught by Hungarian border guards, and is currently waiting for extradition to France for trial of accessory to assault and kidnapping charges. Naturally, she has made a complaint but I don't think it has significant chance of passing -- and the drama contiinuums. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 15:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
How does Russian bureaucracy work?
This is an illuminating case on Russian bureaucracy at work. Particularly enlightening is the part of expedited citizenship merely to develop a basis for a scandal, or perhaps to save face of a minister. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 12:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
