User talk:Newhoggy

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Again, welcome.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 12:53, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

RE: LGAs and suburbs

That's okay. There isn't an alternative for suburbs, and I don't really think there needs be. Melbourne suburbs use an adjacency template which indicates neighbouring suburbs, but that's about it. We do have various city infoboxes, as can be seen in Adelaide and Canberra, but none have been adopted as standard, as with the US.

There can be some confusion between LGA's and suburbs when the posses the same common name. Where there is such an incident, the LGA's official name is used. At least, that's the case for New South Wales I think. For South Australian LGA's, we use the official name regardless. There also cases where the suburb or town article is also the article for the corresponding LGA. It's a shame that we do not have consistency or a stated convention for this yet. Perhaps this is something you might like to raise at the Australian Wikipedians' Notice Board.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:37, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I have just raised this issue at Talk:List of Sydney suburbs -- Ianblair23 01:33, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Testing

Testing -- 203.217.18.60 07:08, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Well done...

... great work on Bankstown, New South Wales! It's great to see such diligent work being done. Would you be able to get any info on the history on Bankstown? You could use the article I worked on (Municipality of Strathfield) as an example if you'd like. There is also a failed FAC nomination at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Municipality of Strathfield - hopefully you can learn from my mistakes :-) Ta bu shi da yu 02:30, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the encouragement for my work on Bankstown. I haven't yet got any material on the history of Bankstown, but I am planning to work on it. Maybe a visit to the local library and a search around on the internet will do the trick. I've just been spending the morning taking snaps on Salt Pan Creek.

Your article on the (Municipality of Strathfield) is awesome. Looks like I have a lot of catching up to do ;-)

By the way, does your username mean "he is not a big fish" or is that just my imagination?

Newhoggy 05:30, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Yep. There's a k5 post somewhere that explains it. Alphax ^τεχ 03:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Suburbs infobox

Hi Newhoggy. It seems I was wrong in saying there was no suburbs infobox. There is one, created at the beginning of August, in use in Macquarie, Australian Capital Territory. This isn't a parameterised template, however, and it seems to be used in that article only. If you intend to use it, you can find information from the ABS for each suburb quickly by searching "POA{{{postcode}}}". However, you need to either pay ($10) for the information resulted from such a search, or access it as a university student or from some libraries. Alternatively, you might be able to find relevant information elsewhere on the ABS website, or by other means entirely. I might add that this infobox is not yet recommended by any of the Australian city WikiProjects (save maybe Canberra). --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. That page discusses customisation of signatures. I use a fairly common format. As the abovelinked page will tell you, that format is achieved by typing the following "nickname]] [[User_talk:UserName|(talk)", reconfigured with your username of course. Some Wikipedians are quite creative with their signatures. I myself used a "rich format" sig for a while. Good luck, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 09:40, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Testing -- Newhoggy (talk) 11:36, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Testing -- Newhoggy]] | Talk 09:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I see you're testing and I realise I gave the wrong format. My format is "nickname | [[User_talk:UserName|Talk".--Cyberjunkie | Talk 12:49, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Side project

I will be working on the asio C plus plus library page when I need a break from the City of Bankstown work.

Re: Syntax change?

Hi Newhoggy. Yes, that happened with mine as well. As I've been on Wikibreak I haven't been bothere to go find out what the issue is, but I narrowed the signature flaw to the "raw" function. Go to your preferences page, uncheck "raw signature", and replace your signature with [[User:Newhoggy|Newhoggy]] | [[User talk:Newhoggy|Talk]] (or whatever variant you like). Basically, you have to type it out in full. Happy editing, --cj | talk 09:32, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes it works. Thankyou. - Newhoggy | Talk 13:07, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Scott Ritter

Hi Newhoggy, howz things? I've been spending some time on the Scott Ritter page which looks very messay and poorly written and maybe some POV issues happenning there. Maybe if you have some time and inclination you might like to have a look and see what you think. Cheers. --Wm 05:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi Wm, I'm not familiar with Scott Ritter, but I'll have a look at it. Another thing is that the Bob Brown has been officially elected as as the Parliamentary Party Leader, which is quite different role compared to the Party Leader of other political parties. The potential for confusion is unfortunate, but what can be done? It is the first time the Australian Greens has formalised a leadership role within the party and the wiki pages will need to be updated to reflect that. Newhoggy | Talk 11:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but someone has already attended to this? My problem is that I a bit (read "very") unclear myself about how the role is defined compared to other parties. --Wm 16:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Heya

Hope things are going well with you, Newhoggy :-) Did you ever get a change to do that dump of all the good info you got into the Bankstown page? I can still help out, if you'd like. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:06, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Good to hear from you. I haven't gotten around to the Bankstown stuff yet, but I'll do it soon. By the way, I have just uploaded a picture of Gowings. -- Newhoggy | Talk 11:34, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Nice! Good work :-) Ta bu shi da yu 11:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Minutes

Hey, do you think you could put them at the end of the page instead of the top? That way, everything's in chronological order. Thanks for writing it up! enochlau (talk) 12:49, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do in terms of refactoring it. enochlau (talk) 12:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome :) enochlau (talk) 10:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Image on commons

No, when you upload an image to commons, you use it just like as if you uploaded it to Wikipedia:

Caption

[[Image:Council Chambers, Bankstown.jpg|thumb|Caption]]

Cheers. enochlau (talk) 12:12, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

NSW electorates

Would you mind correcting the many stubs you've created? They all make it seem like the current member is the only one - could you please either make clear that this is not the case or add the past members, which are freely and easily available from the parliamentary record (downloadable from the NSW parliament website)? If not, this is going to be one hell of a cleanup job. Ambi 12:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, hell, I'm doing it, though it's already taken me an hour or so, and is set to take at least another one to finish the job. On top of what I said above, you haven't even checked your dates - you've marked a whole bunch of members as being elected in 2003 when they were actually elected many years previously, and you haven't checked to see if the links actually point to the people you intend them to go to. I'm sure you mean well, but please be more careful in the future - on Wikipedia, it is possible to create a very big mess very quickly, and you've done exactly that. Ambi 12:56, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the polite response - the Bankstown edits are great. There's only a couple of things - generally, we go by the most common names, so we leave out the middle names in most cases, and if the person is more well known by a shortening of their name (i.e. Douglas Shedden --> Doug Shedden) we use the latter. If you've never heard of the person before, a Google search or a Factiva search (if you have access to the latter) can sometimes clarify this. The other thing, though it's really finicky, is that most of the other articles take the format of "year-year" rather than "year to year", but it really doesn't matter. Ambi 07:01, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey Newhoggy

Hey there, you've got a b'day just before mine! I'll have a read through your work too! Ben Raue (Talk) 13:15, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

My user page

Thanks for reverting the vandalism. enochlau (talk) 12:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Ummm...

... cool idea... only it looks, uh, like a bum-crack! And as I always say: say no to crack. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, the Wikimedia Australia logo... good try though :) Ta bu shi da yu 00:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Haha! Yes, I suppose it does! -- Newhoggy | Talk 07:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: NSW electoral districts

See my comment on the talk page. Also, in Electoral district of Bega, why isn't William Millard listed twice? Did he change party affiliations between elections? Alphax ^τεχ 03:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

You're doing a great job with rolling out these member lists, but there's a couple of things you might want to watch. You've marked a couple of early 20th-century MPs as being from the Liberal Party of Australia, when they were actually from the Commonwealth Liberal Party (as they were active at different times it shouldn't be too hard to work out which was which). It's probably also a good idea to disambiguate Country Party to National Party of Australia so as not to point to a disambiguation page. Ambi 05:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Please be careful about naming members. It's Wikipedia practice to use the names most commonly used by the person concerned, and you've reverted these in a few places. Sometimes this is patently wrong - as in Bligh - where you changed it back to names that the members concerned didn't actually use. Ambi 07:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

If you can't find it - though it's often possible to do so via Google or (if you have access) Factiva - then by all means just add the formal name. However, when I or someone else has gone to the trouble of actually checking what name the person goes or did go by, please do not change that back to the incorrect name. Ambi 08:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your work on creating articles on Australian politicians, especially that you've added "(Australian politician)" to some of them for disambiguation. I would suggest, though, that you also check what links to a page once you've created it, in order to avoid further ambiguity. See my comment on Talk:Henry Peters. Ardric47 22:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Salt Pan Creek, beneath m5.jpg

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Centro Bankstown

In case you don't have this on your watchlist, someone's put Centro Bankstown up for AfD. enochlau (talk) 04:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

"is it okay to copy an image that has expired its copyright from a book that is still copyrighted?" - yes. enochlau (talk) 14:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

State MPs

I know you mean well, but it would really be helpful if you did some research before writing articles on MPs. "X was a member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly" doesn't really tell anyone anything they probably didn't already know, where just including the party and term in office would make the article vastly more useful. This has also made some articles incorrect - you'd marked Peter Primrose as a past politician, when he's a current member of the Legislative Council. Ambi 12:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to have to concur here. Each article tells me almost nothing, and without a date, I don't even know which term to look in. Could you please include party and term, otherwise, they're useless and tell me nothing I couldn't get from a list entry. Night Gyr 06:14, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Hiya, I'm planning on adding those later. The "What links here" is still useful and I was planning on using that to enter in district and term. Newhoggy | Talk 06:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that you're adding lists of MPs to the talk pages of articles that already have them. What's that for? Rebecca 04:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Heya Newhoggy

Thanks for the note of congrats :-) Guess what? My engagement is going to be in your neck of the woods: Bankstown! - Ta bu shi da yu 07:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Australian electorates

Hi Newhoggy. I caught your question to Bec and thought I'd point you in the right direction. Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian politics/Electorates was set up to deal with Australian electorates. Happy editing, --cj | talk 04:52, 15 May 2006 (UTC)