Talk:Bitcoin

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Comparison of bitcoin wallets and ATM's

Bitcoin seems to be a good way for money transfers, mainly because the fees are so low (4%) -regular wire transfers can be tenths of times higher), and accounts probably don't auto-expire (unlike other money transfer methods; at least that's what I assume). Not many people will actually want to keep bitcoins as a form of currency on their account though, since the value of bitcoins is quite variable (https://bitcoin.org/en/you-need-to-know ) Also anonimity isn't essential for many people I think (who too just like the Bitcoin idea due to the low transfer fees, like me) and thus isn't essential for them (meaning non-anonymous bitcoin purchase/selling options offered by some (wallet) services are important for them (see below).

Buying and selling bitcoins can appearantly sometimes be done via bitcoin ATMs (using plain regular currency bills, sometimes via the smartphone QR-code thing) , but it depends on the model of ATM (see https://coinatmradar.com/blog/how-to-sell-bitcoins-using-bitcoin-atm/ ) The problem here is that few ATM's exist and even if there are some around, chances are that you can't buy or sell bitcoins with them as the model isn't any good (only transfer bitcoins allready on your bitcoin wallet).

Via bitcoin wallets, I'm not sure whether buying/selling bitcoins can indeed be done, should thus be mentioned in a bitcoin wallet comparison page. I assume that there are several of them (see https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet ) that have bitcoin buying and selling options (mainly via non-anonymous ways like wire transfers, ... or so that's what I assume) but there seem to be few if any information around on this, and there are also no comparisons on this around.

So, it may be a good idea to hence make 2 new wiki articles:

• Comparison of bitcoin wallets
• Comparison of bitcoin ATM's

Perhaps that another article called Comparison of bitcoin markets could also be of use. Appearantly, that's yet another way (besides ATM's and bitcoin wallet software) to sell and buy bitcoins. Options to buy and sell include online exchange and peer-to-peer trading. This article could also describe the ways on how these bitcoins can be bought/sold then (i.e. via wire transfer, smartphone QR-thing, ...) See also http://www.coindesk.com/information/sell-bitcoin/ There is all ready a page on this, but it doesn't always list the method (online exchange or peer-to-peer) and possible transfer methods (and so whether or not you need a smartphone, ...) This page is https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_real-time_trading_exchanges

Oppose The above proposal looks more like an advertisement than a serious information about bitcoin. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 13:28, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Sources

I see the sourcing on this article is not good. Sourcing to primary sources is not a good idea when done extensively. The PDF about the origin of bitcoin from 'coin desk' is not a good source. Also recently an editor removed information on the actual inventor of bitcoin in favor apparently of the old outdated information from 'coin desk' magazine. Earl King Jr. (talk) 06:26, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Earl King Jr. above you forgot to mention which sources you consider to be bad. I do not think that your "the sourcing on this article is not good" is generally true.

Re your "recently an editor removed information on the actual inventor of bitcoin" - that is provably false. What I removed was just an, according to the sources, disputed claim on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. The Satoshi Nakamoto article contains quite a few of such claims, every one of them being disputed. Since the claims are listed in the Satoshi Nakamoto article, and since this article refers to it, there is no need to repeat the disputed claims here, and I find it even less important to pick just the newest claim and present it as "the actual inventor of bitcoin". Therefore, there is no consensus on your "actual inventor of bitcoin" edit, and, until such a consensus is achieved, it is better to revert your "actual inventor of bitcoin" edits to WP:STATUSQUO. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 13:01, 27 June 2016 (UTC)