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Coronavirus Venezuela

Hi Sandy, I know you are not part of the Venezuelan project anymore, but I just wanted to invite to just keep an eye on 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Venezuela and its related talk, as it is a health related issue and you know better of both worlds. Any advice in wiki guidelines and health could come handful. The page is updated quickly but is being filled in an unprofessional way. Again do not feel forced, but be welcome to act in any way that is confortable to you. --MaoGo (talk) 12:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, MaoGo; it is so good to hear from you, and I hope you and yours are well. I will think about whether I feel able to look at that article, but I expect it will infuriate and sadden me too much, as Venezuela will be a complete calamity of death, doubly attributed to the regime in China, and it may be hard for me to read about that much death and suffering and react calmly. All of Wikipedia's Coronovirus articles are in trouble because of the increased editing activity, all of them cause me to have to unwatch daily so I don't pop a cork, and I imagine the Venezuela article will be the most disturbing yet. I will go over there eventually if I feel I can look in there without exploding in frustration. Que estes bien, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I understand completely. In these times of crisis, health comes first. Stay safe, cuídate.--MaoGo (talk) 18:59, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some users in French Wikipedia were concerned that my username was associated with Chinese politics. I hope my new name does not bring problems with Proust haters. As we interact often enough, I wanted to let you know. Best regards.--ReyHahn (talk) 17:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

		The Original Barnstar
		Your watchful guidance on Wikipedia coverage of COVID-19 deserves recognition! Here is a barnstar. RexSueciae (talk) 15:19, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, RexSueciae-- although I have not done nearly enough. Thanks to you, too! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:19, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Original Barnstar
		Your watchful guidance on Wikipedia coverage of COVID-19 deserves recognition! Here is a barnstar. RexSueciae (talk) 15:19, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I second this. Thanks for your careful guiding virus into TFA, after my initial idea. I was a bit reluctant to engage in the 2nd discussion, don't want to be too pushy. It ended fine, the blurb reads fine, see what happens to this :-) -DePiep (talk) 15:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, that is Introduction_to_viruses then ;-) [2]. -DePiep (talk) 15:52, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Dear Sandy, I have noticed all your hard work on the COVID19-related articles and talk pages lately. Thank you so much for all your efforts to ensure what is shared is accurate. Take good care! JenOttawa (talk) 00:54, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grateful appreciation

Thank you, SandyGeorgia, for the "COVID-19 Barnstar" you left on my Talk page. It is appreciated more than you know. God bless. Al Leluia81 (talk) 21:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom Notification

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Medical pricing and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Barkeep49 for kicking it off; that sure unraveled fast. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DocJames has suggested I was hasty with this request. So maybe it didn't unravel as fast as it seems from my perspective. We'll see what the community and ArbCom says. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:51, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. The timing is most unfortunate because of COVID, but the necessity to get on with this is abundantly clear. I think we tried everything possible at the WT:MED post-RFC discussion to forestall this, to no avail; the responses were jaw-dropping. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I mean we were back to edit warring. I too would have preferred not to file now (I would have preferred to file never but especially not now) but since the dispute doesn't seem like it's going to sit during COVID... Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Barkeep49, you may recall mention of this back on the ANI, but it seems that in medical content, edit warring is a feature, not a bug :/ Another feature is the idea of quickly putting up RFCs. Real discussion went out the window about 2010 or 12, WAID's valiant efforts notwithstanding, around the time we lost many of the "founders" of the Medicine Project. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Failed logins

If you can say, what was the last arb case where you ran into this? Qwirkle (talk) 22:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hang on, will have to find the diffs where I posted about it ... SandyGeorgia (Talk)

here SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Somehow the idea that this is merely random seems a bit forced. Qwirkle (talk) 23:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Last time it co-occurred with persistent vandalism to the case pages ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I wanted to come here personally and say thank you. I am still a bit beaten down by all of this, so your response really did encourage me. Did you ever run afoul of Jytdog personally? Or is that an invasive question? Don't answer if I have overstepped! It has no impact on my genuine gratitude. Again, thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Jen (is it ok to call you that?). I'm glad that you are feeling some relief, and am sorry you had to have such experiences. On the up side, I would say that 14 years ago, I had a seriously nasty experience with a (later desysopped) abusive admin, and it formed my identity as a Wikipedia editor. I have seen very few editors on Wikipedia with that ability to be that nasty, and that brutalized other editors with such nonchalance. That experience made me determined to try to never treat others like that, to speak up for those who are abused, and to most of all, be patient, as the wheels turn very slowly in here. As to my experiences with Jytdog, I think the less said, the better ... even if an editor is site banned, there is a very good probability that they will still be among us and we will still have to deal with the fallout in our daily editing. In some cases, they will always still be with us. This is an arbcase with many moving pieces, and rest assured that the arbs will do all they can to uphold policy and promote a collegial editing environment. But remember also that this is the internet, and not all things are within our, or the arbs, control. Sometimes on Wikipedia you just have to accept that there's a lot of scary stuff in here. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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	I wanted to come here personally and say thank you. I am still a bit beaten down by all of this, so your response really did encourage me. Did you ever run afoul of Jytdog personally? Or is that an invasive question? Don't answer if I have overstepped! It has no impact on my genuine gratitude. Again, thank you. [[User:Jenhawk777\|Jenhawk777]] ([[User talk:Jenhawk777\|talk]]) 22:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)		I wanted to come here personally and say thank you. I am still a bit beaten down by all of this, so your response really did encourage me. Did you ever run afoul of Jytdog personally? Or is that an invasive question? Don't answer if I have overstepped! It has no impact on my genuine gratitude. Again, thank you. [[User:Jenhawk777\|Jenhawk777]] ([[User talk:Jenhawk777\|talk]]) 22:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
			: Hi, Jen (is it ok to call you that?). I'm glad that you are feeling some relief, and am sorry you had to have such experiences. On the up side, I would say that 14 years ago, I had a seriously nasty experience with a (later desysopped) abusive admin, and it formed my identity as a Wikipedia editor. I have seen very few editors on Wikipedia with that ability to be that nasty, and that brutalized other editors with such nonchalance. That experience made me determined to try to never treat others like that, to speak up for those who are abused, and to most of all, be patient, as the wheels turn very slowly in here. As to my experiences with Jytdog, I think the less said, the better ... even if an editor is site banned, there is a very good probability that they will still be among us and we will still have to deal with the fallout in our daily editing. In some cases, they will always still be with us. This is an arbcase with many moving pieces, and rest assured that the arbs will do all they can to uphold policy and promote a collegial editing environment. But remember also that this is the internet, and not all things are within our, or the arbs, control. Sometimes on Wikipedia you just have to accept that there's a lot of scary stuff in here. Best, [[User:SandyGeorgia\|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia\|Talk]]) 23:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)