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::Not really.. There were Christian communities all along the west coast (present day Maharashtra and Gujarat, established by the apostle Bartholomew. There were Syrian bishops of the Church of the East in northwest India (present day Punjab, Pakistan and Afghanistan) by the third century AD. Again in the early 1300s, Jordanus established Christian communities on the west coast. Before the European colonisers could come, some St. Thomas Christians had already migrated and established communities in central and north India. The British, who ruled India, did nothing to promote or spread Christianity in India. [[User:The Discoverer|The Discoverer]] ([[User talk:The Discoverer|talk]]) 15:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC) |
::Not really.. There were Christian communities all along the west coast (present day Maharashtra and Gujarat, established by the apostle Bartholomew. There were Syrian bishops of the Church of the East in northwest India (present day Punjab, Pakistan and Afghanistan) by the third century AD. Again in the early 1300s, Jordanus established Christian communities on the west coast. Before the European colonisers could come, some St. Thomas Christians had already migrated and established communities in central and north India. The British, who ruled India, did nothing to promote or spread Christianity in India. [[User:The Discoverer|The Discoverer]] ([[User talk:The Discoverer|talk]]) 15:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC) |
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Thank you, The Discoverer. I couldn’t have answered better. [[User:Indology1985|Indo85]] 04:38, 28 May 2022 (UTC) |
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Year change reasoning
Why are Ip addresses changing from 52 AD to 50 AD? The source says 52 AD and there is a general consensus there is. If someone has a dispute, please put it here.Manabimasu (talk) 11:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
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Why is Chrsitianity in India said to have been established before European colonisations when in fact only christianity in the Malabar Coast, Kerala is before europeans came?
all other parts of India got christainity only after European colonisations. why is wrong info being propagated? is it agenda to christianise the country? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.202.154 (talk) 07:14, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
YES WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IS CORRECT AS ACCORDING TO TRADITION SAINT THOMAS CHRISTIANS OF KERALA WHERE THE ONLY CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY IN INDIA BEFORE EUROPEAN INVASION..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARAVIND NAMBOOTHIRI (talk • contribs) 12:25, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Not really.. There were Christian communities all along the west coast (present day Maharashtra and Gujarat, established by the apostle Bartholomew. There were Syrian bishops of the Church of the East in northwest India (present day Punjab, Pakistan and Afghanistan) by the third century AD. Again in the early 1300s, Jordanus established Christian communities on the west coast. Before the European colonisers could come, some St. Thomas Christians had already migrated and established communities in central and north India. The British, who ruled India, did nothing to promote or spread Christianity in India. The Discoverer (talk) 15:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, The Discoverer. I couldn’t have answered better. Indo85 04:38, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Problematic edits by User:Tharian
In this edit, User:Tharian stated that the Church of South India and the Church of North India inherited an episcopal polity from the Anglican Communion. However, both of these united Protestant Churches do not have a single polity, but rather a mixed polity that contains elements from episcopal polity, congregational polity, and presbyterian polity. The website of the Church of South India clearly states this:
Organized into 22 dioceses, each under the spiritual supervision of a bishop, the church as a whole is governed by a synod, which elects a moderator (presiding bishop) every 2 years. Episcopacy is thus combined with Synodical government, and the church explicitly recognizes that Episcopal, Presbyterian, and congregational elements are all necessary for the church's life.
Note that these united Protestant Churches use the term Moderator rather than Primate, combining both the Presbyterian and Anglican leader into one office; pastors are usually known as "presbyter in charge" rather than "priest in charge" (see Exhibit A). This fact is corroborated by other references, such as The American Church that Might Have Been: A History of the Consultation on Church Union by Keith Watkins, Professor Emeritus of Worship at Christian Theological Seminary, who states in his book published by Wipf and Stock Publishers that:
The Church of South India created a polity that recognized Episcopal, Presbyterian, and Congregational elements and developed a book of worship that bridged the liturgical traditions that came into this new church. It set up a plan by which existing ministries were accepted while including processes which would lead to the time, a generation later, when all ministers would have been ordained by bishops in apostolic succession. The Church of South India was important as a prototype for a new American church because two factors had come together: the cross-confessional nature of its constituent parts and the intention to be, in effect, the Protestant Christian presence in communities all across the southern territories of its nation.
In light of these facts, I have corrected the information in the article. If User:Tharian objects, he should discuss here rather than edit war. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 04:47, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Right. The CSI and CNI are just as much Presbyterian and Methodist as they are Anglican. No need to emphasize the Anglican identity over others; Protestant is accurate and what their websites use to describe themselves. Wareon (talk) 05:11, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Northeast India
Can I add the following right after "...in its practices for a long time but since the 20th century has witnessed growth in Indigenous revivalism and recently contemporary local Church-planting movements have started to flourish"?
Additionally, there has been dramatic growth of Christianity in Northeast India. In the ongoing Insurgency in Northeast India, Christian terrorism has occurred and thousands of Hindus have been forcibly converted to Christianity[1], both with the support of some local churches[2].
Shakespeare143 (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Shakespeare143 The proposed text is POV pushing. It clearly hides,
Church leaders, however, deny any forcible conversions in Tripura
andRadical Hindu religious groups in the region have all along been accusing Christian missionaries of forceful conversions
. The text also hides the part that the NLFT has been killing peopleto prevent them from converting. Please take this as a warning that your POV pushing has become aggressive. VV 19:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Vincentvikram Can you explain why you think I was doing POV pushing? I posted this on the Talk page to get feedback on improving the proposition and to get consensus. Shakespeare143 (talk) 19:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate about how the NLFT has been killing people to prevent them from converting? Shakespeare143 (talk) 19:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Shakespeare143 The text you have proposed is based on a cherry-picked perspective based on the NLFT. I have pointed out the text in the rediff links which shows the other aspects not covered by your text, hence the "point of view" pushing. Since you have already gone through the tutorials, WP:NPOV should be familiar to you since you are now working in an area that is contentious and covered by discretionary sanctions, of which you have been made aware. The second source is very large and cannot be used to support a bald assertion of "support of some local churches". The reason I have templated you is because this pattern is seen in the several pieces of text you tried to insert in various articles. VV 20:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Errata, I have struck out the conflicting text as I wanted to highlight
"We cannot, however, vouch on behalf of the NLFT which is a rebel group."
VV 20:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- The use of the phrase "Christian terrorism" is the POV pushing. VV 20:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Mate, it's happening all over India and most of the Hindus are sleeping, I'm afraid by the time they are aware... it might be too late. Kichawww (talk) 16:21, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Tribals unite against conversions in Tripura". rediff.com. 2 August 2001.
- ^ Subir Bhaumik (2004). Ethnicity, Ideology and Religion: Separatist movements in India's Northeast (PDF). Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies. p. 236.
I am join your cast please help me
I am join your cast please help me 2409:4042:C85:19FA:E3C5:4A3E:DC53:6AD0 (talk) 12:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
FileConversion of Paravas by Francis Xavier in 1542.jpg
I’m wondering if we need to replace this image in the article. Paravars are erroneously depicted as native Americans in the painting. Indo85 19:55, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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