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Hello, I'm reporting a relatively newer user who appears to have an active focus on adding [[WP:UNDUE]] weight about opposition to the [[Proposed expansion of the Buffalo Metro Rail]]. I can tell you that there's an anti-expansion activist group that recently sprung up along the proposed route, so I'm not surprised to see that someone wants to contribute this to the article, but relative to the amount of information of the topic, it should not take up half of the lede. It should be in its own section. At this point the user has also asked someone to intervene against me, for whatever that's worth. It's not that serious of an issue. [[User:Dekema|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #003AC9;">dekema</span>]] (Formerly Buffaboy) ([[User talk:Buffaboy|talk]]) 14:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC) |
Hello, I'm reporting a relatively newer user who appears to have an active focus on adding [[WP:UNDUE]] weight about opposition to the [[Proposed expansion of the Buffalo Metro Rail]]. I can tell you that there's an anti-expansion activist group that recently sprung up along the proposed route, so I'm not surprised to see that someone wants to contribute this to the article, but relative to the amount of information of the topic, it should not take up half of the lede. It should be in its own section. At this point the user has also asked someone to intervene against me, for whatever that's worth. It's not that serious of an issue. [[User:Dekema|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #003AC9;">dekema</span>]] (Formerly Buffaboy) ([[User talk:Buffaboy|talk]]) 14:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:As you '''completely removed''' all references, shows your ''intent'' to censor relevant information. [[User:Rolf716|Rolf716]] ([[User talk:Rolf716|talk]]) 14:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC) |
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User: Abbas Harun reported by Phoebe Barnard (not a Wikipedia editor) (Result: Declined – wrong noticeboard)
Dear Wikipedia Editors,
I am not an editor but a climate and biodiversity scientist who is being pressurized by one of your editors, Mr Abbas Harun, to hire him to write a Wikipedia Profile on me and my career. Despite the fact that an independent consultant had already submitted a profile for me, he has repeatedly contacted me on LinkedIn in an attempt to pressurize me to hire him instead. He boasts that he can write and approve his own entries.
I find this disappointing and annoying, and contrary to the spirit and values of Wikipedia. I have informed him on LinedIn of this action I am taking.
Sorry for not knowing all your coding conventions.
Thanks for paying attention, Phoebe Barnard
https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebe-barnard/
14 September, 2023 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:4002:9610:F556:4543:C517:BBB5 (talk) 17:33, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Articles for creation/ScamWarning. If you are hiring people to edit Wikipedia on your behalf, please ensure that they comply with our policies on paid editing. – bradv 18:01, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Declined This is the Wikipedia noticeboard for reporting edit warring, so I'm closing this unrelated report. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:09, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
User:Shayan MB24 reported by User:Sunnya343 (Result: Warned user(s))
Page: Mehrabad International Airport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Shayan MB24 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [1]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [5]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [6]
Comments:
- Warned. This is a slow moving but lengthy edit war, however no edits have been made by either editor to the article in about 40 hours, so a short term block wouldn't seem to prevent anything. However, both editors are warned that further edit warring may result in blocks to prevent further disruption. Aoidh (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
User:Sunnya343 reported by User:Shayan MB24 (Result: Warned user(s))
Page: Mehrabad International Airport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Sunnya343 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [7]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [10]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [11]
Comments:
This user has engaged in disruptive editing and removing material without providing any sufficient reason other than the fact that they just desire to do so.
- Warned This is a slow moving but lengthy edit war, however no edits have been made by either editor to the article in about 40 hours, so a short term block wouldn't seem to prevent anything. However, both editors are warned that further edit warring may result in blocks to prevent further disruption. Aoidh (talk) 19:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
User:Asarlaí reported by User:Darker Dreams (Result: )
Page: Witchcraft (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Asarlaí (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [16]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: see comments
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [17]
Comments:
This is a continuation of ongoing dispute which consumes most of the talk page, has had attempted mediation, etc. This editor has previously felt it was appropriate to make edits to "undercut the premise" of articles rather than improve them (contributing to their deletion), and are now suggesting they should take me to AN/I for inappropriate behavior through this series of edits.[18] Darker Dreams (talk) 15:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I haven't broken 3RR. The first two diffs are one revert: it's me removing two separate bits of content, which weren't re-added in the meantime. The third diff is me adding a tag that merely asked you to provide a quote. And the last diff is me re-adding that tag.
- As outlined here, I undid your edit because the claim doesn't seem to be supported by the sources, the references were just bare URLs, and it was put into the lead despite not being in the main body. That goes against three guidelines: WP:NOR, WP:BAREURL and WP:LEAD. I explained that in my edit summary.
- I read through the sources and couldn't find anything that supported the statement, so I immediately posted on the talkpage, asking you for quotes to back it up. Instead of simply doing that, you reverted me and immediately warned me for 'edit warring', just for reverting you once. When I tagged the content with [verification needed] you just deleted the tag and said the quotes are on the talkpage somewhere. They're not, and you still haven't provided any.
- You've been behaving like someone who doesn't care about basic Wikipedia rules. You've been warned many times for edit warring, and only last month you were blocked for edit warring on a POV fork you had made. – Asarlaí (talk) 16:03, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
User:MrFoxMrFox reported by User:ThaddeusSholto (Result: Blocked 72 hours)
Page: Fox Brothers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: MrFoxMrFox (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [23]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [24]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [25]
Comments:
MrFoxMrFox claimed the reference didn't say what it clearly does. Then he claimed it was inaccessible. When I restored it with an archiveurl, he just deleted it again now claiming it is promotional. He is edit warring and changing his reasoning every time. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 20:54, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have attempted to explain to @ThaddeusSholto that just because an owner/director claims the company was founded in 1772 in an after-buy interview does not make the statement true. When I asked him to support this claim with a UK Companies House reference which is a record of all established companies in the UK, he chose to revert my edits. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:05, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
These are extraordinary claims which conflict with the only reliable source in this situation - UK Companies House which states the company was founded in 1996.MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:02, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- You did more than remove that one reference. You also removed images you didn't like because they showed the 1772 date. Whether or not you agree with the given reference doesn't matter. It is a reliable source and you are removing it because you personally disagree with it. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 21:09, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- These images appear to be promotional material from the company. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- In fact, the very same images are featured on their website. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- @ThaddeusSholto Wikipedia should not be an avenue for marketing and surely must not resort to posting advertising/marketing/branding/promotional images featuring an unsubstantiated date of establishment clearly not linked to reality (Companies House). The fact that these images also appear on the company's website means they should not be used on Wikipedia which is encyclopaedic in nature. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:17, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I will also point out that it takes two to edit war and for every revert on my part was a revert by you. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- @ThaddeusSholto Wikipedia should not be an avenue for marketing and surely must not resort to posting advertising/marketing/branding/promotional images featuring an unsubstantiated date of establishment clearly not linked to reality (Companies House). The fact that these images also appear on the company's website means they should not be used on Wikipedia which is encyclopaedic in nature. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:17, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- In fact, the very same images are featured on their website. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- These images appear to be promotional material from the company. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- You made nine edits to my three. My third was to add the archiveurl to show that the reference actually did claim what you claim it doesn't. You made four edits after I warned you about 3RR. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 21:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Your reference is an interview with the owner? Are you claiming this is more accurate than Companies House? MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- If an interview with the owner of a company is taken as gospel and treated as more reliable for the founding of a company than Companies House then Wikipedia as we know it is well and truly a failed project. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not to mention promotional imagery featuring an unsubstantiated year of foundation from a company's website being used in a corresponding wikipedia article to somehow confuse readers. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please note that my all my edits have been encyclopaedic, objective and factual, seeking to improve Wikipedia by removing promotional material. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:34, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not to mention promotional imagery featuring an unsubstantiated year of foundation from a company's website being used in a corresponding wikipedia article to somehow confuse readers. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- If an interview with the owner of a company is taken as gospel and treated as more reliable for the founding of a company than Companies House then Wikipedia as we know it is well and truly a failed project. MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Your reference is an interview with the owner? Are you claiming this is more accurate than Companies House? MrFoxMrFox (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- You made nine edits to my three. My third was to add the archiveurl to show that the reference actually did claim what you claim it doesn't. You made four edits after I warned you about 3RR. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 21:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours. Bbb23 (talk) 21:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Thinkerbell22 reported by User:ThaddeusSholto (Result: Indefinitely blocked)
Brown stew chicken: Brown stew chicken (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Thinkerbell22: Thinkerbell22 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [31]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [32]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [33]
Comments:
Thinkerbell22 has chosen a few articles, including Coco bread, to rewrite to make them exclusively Jamaican. When I pointed out that one of the references he added says "A classic recipe across the Caribbean" his reply was "does that mean that jerk isnt from a specific country?" and then he reverted the article again. I explained in my edit summaries that he was claiming things the references just don't say (his reference never says it is called "Jamaican fricassee chicken" yet he keeps adding it) but he just reverts anyway. He has edited this article six times today. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 22:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have provided countless valid citation on my edits, however, you decide that this does not matter since i have made edits exclusive to Jamaica topics that i am knowledgeable on. You have reverted my edits beyond 3 times to the original article that has little citation with your only explanation being that i edit on topics regarding Jamaica Thinkerbell22 (talk) 22:58, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but that just isn't what happened. I tried to incorporate your references and pretty much all of your text here but I altered it to actually reflect what the references state (not exclusively Jamaican) and removed what they don't (the aforementioned absence of any reference claiming the name "Jamaican fricassee chicken".) I explained on your talk page and I used edit summaries which explained exactly what my edit entailed. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 23:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Indefinitely blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
User:Jmsrobinson reported by User:Intforce (Result: )
Page: Microsoft Azure (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Jmsrobinson (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 11:55, 16 September 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1175643763 by Intforce (talk) Pleae, read WP:STATUSQUO do not revert until a consensus is reached. I already added the suggested tag."
- 11:45, 16 September 2023 (UTC) "Moving to section"
- 07:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1175543272 by Intforce (talk) Please, do not censor this. Let's discuss it on the talk page first."
- 13:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC) "Undid revision 1175434268 by 69.89.53.221 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Jmsrobinson has been repeatedly been attempting, presumably first as an IP user, and now with an account, to add problematic material to Microsoft Azure, ignoring concerns made on the talk page. intforce (talk) 12:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- You started censoring this before reaching a consensus. I already requested a third party opinion. Jmsrobinson (talk) 12:05, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
User:Rolf716 reported by User:Dekema (Result: )
Page: Proposed expansion of the Buffalo Metro Rail (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Rolf716 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [34]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [38]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [39]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]
Comments:
Hello, I'm reporting a relatively newer user who appears to have an active focus on adding WP:UNDUE weight about opposition to the Proposed expansion of the Buffalo Metro Rail. I can tell you that there's an anti-expansion activist group that recently sprung up along the proposed route, so I'm not surprised to see that someone wants to contribute this to the article, but relative to the amount of information of the topic, it should not take up half of the lede. It should be in its own section. At this point the user has also asked someone to intervene against me, for whatever that's worth. It's not that serious of an issue. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- As you completely removed all references, shows your intent to censor relevant information. Rolf716 (talk) 14:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC)