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K2 Network

Hey Ryan, just inquiring about the status of the page editing we were speaking about on my talk page regarding the K2 Network entry. I'm not in any particular hurry, but I just wanted to make sure it hadn't slipped through the cracks. Hope all is well! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandamere (talk • contribs)

Dweller's nom

Yes, feel free to co-nom. I look forward to reading what you have to say about him. The Transhumanist   

Smile!

Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) has smiled at you! Smiles are good! and hopefully this one has made your day better. Why not smile at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend? Happy editing!

{{uw-uaa}}

Hi Ryan, just for a heads up I've moved your warning {{Uw-UAA}} -> {{uw-uaa}}, because we try to keep all warnings in lower case so as to minimise confusion, and I've posted them up in the correct places. Cheers muchly ^Khukri 14:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Story Part II

It was fun until Tellyaddict showed up and took over my training, he started getting too much into it, He started "showing me the ways of the Sysop" I started having fun on the word accociation game ant then Telly Drops me like a rock!, but the worst part Is still to come. . .

TO BE CONTINUED —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sethdoe92 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC).

User Talk: Acalamari.

Thanks for reverting that. I have virtually no idea why Sethdoe92 decided to do vandalize my talk page. The only contact I've had with him was when I asked him not to leave nonsense edit summaries. Acalamari 16:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

New image ...

... on your userpage is only awesome. I love it! :-) - Alison ☺ 16:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC) (jealous growl)

I second that! I'm still gasping for air afte the laugh :) Phaedriel - 17:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused: is it an image Ryan took? (Sorry if I'm sounding ignorant here.) Acalamari 17:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ha ha, why'd they flip you off? Nice!--Endo(Exo) 17:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Well explanation time, basically, before I was an admin, I had the Death By Gluten page speedied and lets say the band and their mates weren't too happy, hence the pic they took! To be fair, I didn't abide by WP:DENY, admins can take a look at the deleted DBG talk page - it's funny :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 18:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, that's what it is. Shame no one's done something like that for me...yet. :) Acalamari 18:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ohmigod, that's the funniest thing I've seen around here in a while! Excellent :D – Riana_ऋ 18:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Preview

File:Bitchstar.JPG

The Bitch Barnstar
This should give you a breif preview of the next part of the story
—Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 17:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately Seth's been blocked for a week - and I was looking forward to hearing partIII of his story :-( Ryan Postlethwaite 18:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

*sigh* - so I see. Still - there is always his talk page :) - Alison ☺ 18:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

On WP:AN/I, Luna Santin has put the "resolved" tag on the issue, which indeed, the issue has been resolved. Acalamari 19:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Miskin

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Miskin. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Miskin/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Miskin/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | ^{Blast him / Follow his steps} 17:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Boy!

That picture on your user page sure is swell! DBG is my favorite band in the world! Thanks for supporting their music, I made a fan page, and let me just tell you, I have made contact with thousands of fans from all parts of the globe. You're terrific! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.107.227.85 (talk • contribs)

• Another fan of yours, Ryan? :) - Alison ☺ 22:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Looks like it ;-) Thanks for keeping tabs on me Mr IP :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 22:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
  • How about it, Ryan? You're rapidly becoming an internet celebrity! Acalamari 22:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
    • I know, if you google my name you get thousands of hits now, before I came to wikipedia it used to be 7! :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 23:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Oh no! I think you misunderstood. I'm not a Ryan Postlethwaite fan so to speak...I searched DBG and was prompted to your website because of that amazing photo you have posted on your webpage. Sorry for the confusion! DBG is simply a stunning band, the best quality of music I've heard in my life, but Mr. Poslethwaite, you're pretty swell yourself being a fan of such a high quality of music! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.107.227.85 (talk • contribs)

Hey, silly billy!

I spend a whole day making a new userpage for you, kiddo - it's not like I don't dedicate you time! ;) Tell you what: if you promise to send me a pic of your in a sober state (like you said you would!) you'll get your mail ;) Seriously, I was planning to write you today - and I do honor my promises! love you Ryan - you sure made me laugh :) Phaedriel - 23:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The only problem with me sending you a sober pic of me is that you might fall in love ;-) Ha!!! you've made me feel bad now about my user page!! Time to look through my pics!!! Ryan Postlethwaite 23:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Email time!? Ryan Postlethwaite 23:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Post drunken state!!!

.........And me with a hangover! Ryan Postlethwaite 23:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

We needn't worry about Phaedriel "falling in love" by the looks of it. You, on the other hand... – Steel 23:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

It's too late for me..... Ryan Postlethwaite 00:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I feel your pain :) - Alison ☺ 00:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I should mention that's after my 21st! Ryan Postlethwaite 00:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

(Be still my beating heart!!!!) Btw, is it me, or our Ryan kinda looks like Prince Harry in the first pic? ;) Phaedriel - 00:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Just for fun!

And just for fun, me and my friend Adele (Hot hot hot!) Ryan Postlethwaite 00:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this some plea for attention, Ryan? I'm telling you, I'm cutting you off! ;) I'm assuming she.. likes... being licked? Or she's had enough Jim Bean she doesn't care? David Fuchs ^{(talk / frog blast the vent core!)} 01:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Phaedriel wanted some pics! I think you can tell by the look on her face that she enjoys being licked by me ;-) Although I'm sure her boyfriend would have something else to say! Ryan Postlethwaite 01:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Now Ryan, when you say "the look on her face", do you mean Adele or Phaedriel? :) (Heh, heh, heh.) Acalamari 02:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No, no, no, this is all wrong. The RP I've become accustomed to is a drunk northerner with no lady friends. All this Adele business has shocked me to the core, not to mention the images where you appear to be ....semi-sober... GASP. I assume you have a helpline set up for Folks fooled into thinking that Ryan Postlethwaite was permanently wasted but, as it turns out, he's a regular kind-a-guy who licks girls (as required)....... That's it, I quit (for three days). The Rambling Man 18:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Good grief... WjBscribe 00:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we should have a caption competition.... WjBscribe 01:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

How about: "Ryan Postlethwaite when not on his administrative duties" (Okay, that's not brilliant.:)) Acalamari 02:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

EA mediation

I added a last minute request, could you please check it out?

PS The pics you have above are quite...interesting.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 01:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The pics are shocking! I've unprotected the esparanza page - please only add in the line you've suggested and let me know as soon as you've done it (i.e. in the next 10 minutes). Ryan Postlethwaite 01:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Feel free to make a grammatical change, now that I've added a new sentence. To me, it seems like I've disrupted the flow of the essay, but I can't pick out how. Tell me what you think.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 01:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I formated[1] and reprotected, let me know if that's OK. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ryan, the additional sentence is OK in its current position, where it doesn't disrupt the flow of the paragraph. I'm not quite content with the wording "deletion debate result" because to me, it sounds rather clunky and needlessly alliterative, but it's not a big concern. I'm more interested in the rest of the encyclopedia.

P.S. Have you considered using the picture with Adele on your userpage, with the caption, "I am a Wikipedia administrator."? Maybe it's best not to, but I wanted to make you laugh. --Kyoko 08:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, god! What are the 12-year-old editors going to say??? I'm 14, and we definitely do not have such experiences in high school. Then again, it would be something to laugh about whenever someone visits your userpage...--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 01:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Better yet, how about "A Wikipedia administrator at work."? --Kyoko 12:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/PalestineRemembered/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Srikeit 05:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

HeHe

Hi Ryan, looks like someone does not like me (massive lol)! Cheers! — The Sunshine Man 14:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Ha, I know, I was well looking forward tp part III, but I'm going to have to wait another week as he's blocked :-( Ryan Postlethwaite 18:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, on a serious note though he made adeath threat, I thought that was an offence which a user could be indef blocked for? Regards — The Sunshine Man 19:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Good wishes

Thank you... and for your kind support. --Dweller 15:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Boink!

You've got your mail, Sire! I know you're pretty busy with the ArbCom case, so I don't wish to interrupt you - but hey, you've earned it! ;) Ttyl sweetie. - Phaedriel - 15:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm well excited now :-) I haven't checked my mail today! I'll check it when I get home. I'll try not to take as long as last time to respond! :-P Ryan Postlethwaite 16:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

CHU Clerk

Yes Ryan. I do have a problem - you posted your request on the actual page and not the talk page. :) --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's go Yankees!) 23:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK no-one has ever "applied" - you just muck in. All help greatly appreciated - especially for picking up those involved in arbcomm type stuff. Secretlondon 23:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Cheers guys, I just didn't want to infringe on anyones territory! (Sorry for posting on the main page (I was sure I was on the talk page)!) Ryan Postlethwaite 23:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely, totally informal. Just add your name to Wikipedia:Changing username/Assistance which also contains the basics on how to help out. Feel free to ask me any questions... WjBscribe 00:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks WJB, what I think I'll do is just roam around for a few days and see what you guys add. Is there any templates I should know about? I've already seen {{clerknote}}. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

If you want to help at WP:CHU/U, see {{CUU}}. Also look at the templates on the assistance page. --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's go Yankees!) 00:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, the other templates worth noting are:

• For renames: There are a few shortcut templates though you can write your own message if you prefer:
  • Where the account request is left by a different user: {{CHU|notused|name of account that was used}}
  • Where username is already taken: {{CHU|taken|name of requested account}}
  • Where the username is taken but can be usurped (established users only): {{CHU|usurp|name of requested account}}
• For usurpation: {{CUU}} which has the parameters: contribs=yes/no logs=yes/no email=yes/no notified=yes/no

Bureaucrats tag requests with {{done}} or {{notdone}}, allowing the Bot to put them in the right archive. And to answer a couple of questions that usually come up:

1. You can notify accounts of a usurpation request if the user forgets to do it themselves with {{subst:usurpation requested}}
2. If someone requests a usurpation of an account that isn't taken at WP:CHU/U, you can move it to WP:CHU (adding it with the right template for a simple rename) - no need to make them do it themselves.

Right, that just about covers everything. Simple really :) WjBscribe 00:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I'm impressed - talk about efficiency! Thanks a lot for going to the trouble in showing me the templates - I've always wondered how the pages look so well run! As I said, I'm going to stand and watch for a few days so I understand everything that goes on, comment where I can - I just don't want to mess it all up. Thanks again for all your help, it's far more than I expected. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks from Cecropia

Thanks for the congrats! I expect to enjoy interacting with the community again and pushing that there button. ;-) That is, after my adminning finger gets oiled up! Cheers, Cecropia 04:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

"Too generic"?

Please see 88 (number) and revisit WP:RFCN#JBAK88. -- Ben ^TALK/_HIST 05:59, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

		Dweller's RfA Nominator Award
		Thank you to my three original nominators for their kind faith in me. I've already started getting everything wrong, so feel free to point out my horrendous errors. RfA was far less gruesome than I expected, thanks to your lies fullsome praise of me. I am mopped. Vandals look out. Thank you. PS When did you guys meet up... and which one is you? --Dweller 09:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)}}

Usurpations

In regards to this message here, basically you're saying that the name was created[2], but never in use? Usurpations is like I can still use an account that was never in use, correct? So all I have to do is write this on my talk page: {{subst:usurp|Sesshomaru|I'm anonymous}}? Does this mean I can keep all my contributions and not have the name "I'm anonymous" redirect? That article is a bit confusing for me to interpret, even more so is the term "usurpation". ~I'm anonymous 23:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand. I've done it where you told me to go. What do I have to do now? Create an e-mail address? ~I'm anonymous

That's fine. I can wait a week. Nothing to it. ;} ~I'm anonymous

Sethdoe92

It's up to you. Like it says on the top of my talk page, feel free to revert my admin action as long as it wasn't an overturning of yours. Mangojuice^talk 23:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Account?

Why don't you join the community and get an account?! :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 00:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. However, I have already created my account in January 2007 and I have already joined the community in 2006 as 68.111.92.229 (my IP address prior to an IP change that occurred in April 2007). 68.5.224.107 01:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

CHU/U

Just so you know Ryan, if the request meets all the things that a request usually has (can be usurped, has been notified, no e-mail), you can just use {{CUU}} with no parameters. --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's go Yankees!) 14:23, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I see, thanks for letting me know - there's quite a lot to remember - just let me know whenever I mess up! Ryan Postlethwaite 14:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

RFARB

Hi Ryan. I added a blocked user to the parties for that rfarb request: Neo-Jay (talk · contribs). Can you please watchlist his talk page so you can move any statements over. Thanks. Viridae^Talk 16:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again

Cheers for the reverts to my talk page. And for having such an amusing talk page yourself! Will (aka Wimt) 16:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

about WP:UAA

you removed a report telling account wasn't created, I got the data from the IRC bot:

<pgkbot> New user (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%24%24%24Fo%27toWN_goON%24%24%24) created. Block (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Blockip/%24%24%24Fo%27toWN_goON%24%24%24)

So it seems to have been created, perhaps there are some hcaracter problem in some translation somewhere. _→AzaToth 18:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

You have mail...

...email, that is ~ Anthøny 22:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

......and you've got mail back! Ryan Postlethwaite 22:17, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

*repeats self* ~ Anthøny 22:34, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Really? I'm quite flattered! I think Husond is already quite busy with Magnus, so I would like it if you coached me (if it's alright with you). *Cremepuff222* 22:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I just thought that I'd let you know I'm done with the first task! I used to have a habit to check out AfD at least once a day, but I've grown out of that... I'll try to get back into AfD (as well as the other XfDs) more often. *Cremepuff222* 23:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sysop?

May I ask, did you give up your adminship when you left? If you did, may I respectively request that you ask for it back. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:27, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I did. You may request all you like, but I can't have it back without an RfA – Gurch 23:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what controversial circumstances you left over, admitidely there was the Qzx stuff, but you weren't abusing multiple accounts and many users wanted to nom you for that account. Are you interested in being an admin again? Ryan Postlethwaite 23:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

No, the Qxz stuff happened after I left. Er, the first time. I started a new account precisely because I wanted to get away from adminship (which is why I refused all offers of nomination). Then I left again. This account seems to be controversial enough now that nobody would offer to nominate me anyway... at least, that's what I thought, until just now. I ran an unauthorised deletion bot last November, and made a lot of inappropriate blocks that were overturned, among other things. Oh, and I used IRC, so I must be an evil scheming bastard. Look, none of that matters, at the end of the day I've been contributing to this project for 19 months, I've made god knows how many edits, I was an administrator for six months and I do not wish to be one again. I am quite capable of contributing usefully without adminship, and I don't think you can argue I haven't done enough for the project. Adminship is not compulsory and I have nothing to gain from it. Is that really so difficult to understand? – Gurch 23:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I totally understand all the reasons you've given above, you are certainly doing an excellent job just the way you are now, personally, I think you should be an admin - but I'm not going to attempt to force anything on you. Just keep plugging away as you have been because it's very much appreciated (oh - I agree that because you use IRC you are an evil scheming bastard!). Just remember, that whenever anyone gets pissed off at you - that you most certainly have contributed more than them! Ryan Postlethwaite 23:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. My reward for four hours' work fixing redirects seems to be accusations that I am running an unauthorised bot. Not really appreciation. But surely the flood of meaningless barnstars I get for dealing with vandalism counts, you say? No, it doesn't. Especially not when I'm blocked for 24 hours for doing so. Oh, and accused of running an unauthorised bot again – Gurch 00:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

From what I remember you got blocked for being incicil when you were leaving, you also had been editing just about non stop for 24 hour periods without a break - it sounded like you were annoyed at the way wikipedia was working. Your vandalism work was amazing, I remember a couple of weeks ago you were reporting users to AIV every couple of minutes - in the end, I didn't need to check them out to know they should be blocked. What I'm saying is that you work is appreciated, some people will get annoyed with you - like in the thread above, they just don't realise the speed you work at. When you start getting questioned for making wrong descisions, that's when you need to worry. I envy your dedication to the project, I wish more people could be like you because in about a week, everything would be sorted, we'd have no backlogs and everything would run smoothly. You need to understand that people will get pissed off, they always do, but it's more jelousy than anything. You should be proud of the flood of barnstars you got - it's shows how much you are appreciated. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I do wish people would stop repeating that "he left because he'd been editing for 24 hours" thing. I can't remember who said it, but apparently people like mindlessly propagating such things, and nobody cares to actually go check my contributions that day. Anyway, I wasn't referring to that block, I was referring to this one. Which was incorrect and swiftly reversed, but I still had to suffer the indignity of an autoblock and a line in the block log.

Anyway, you also seem to have forgotten I was an administrator long before Qxz ever existed. And had resigned before he existed, too. Please do not try to pin my refusal of adminship on anything that happened to Qxz because by the time I created it, I'd already made up my mind. After resigning adminship I left in a perfectly civil manner; I'd simply had enough. That was in January. Qxz's departure, on the other hand, was provoked. I didn't handle it well but the point is the two events are not related – Gurch 00:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

new pic on userpage

Nice!!! That is HILARIOUS.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 23:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I took kyoko's advice for a caption - it's even making me laugh! Ryan Postlethwaite 00:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Is that your girlfriend?--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 00:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I wish! Ryan Postlethwaite 00:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

LMAO! Even better would have been: Administrator Ryan Postlethwaite: always at your feet! Phaedriel - 00:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, you've got todays wikipedian, I'm going to have caption of the week!!! I can see your suggestion coming up next! Ryan Postlethwaite 00:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

If you do have a caption of the week, consider "Ryan Postlethwaite: Wikipedia administrator catering to your worldly needs" :) --Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 00:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm happy you liked my suggestion. Here's another caption you might enjoy: "One of the lesser known duties of a Wikipedia administrator." --Kyoko 12:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

That might offend one of the other admins...--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 13:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Heh I doubt it. How about something along the lines of "Ryan cleaning out another backlog"? Will (aka Wimt) 14:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Let me rephrase: "That's not part of an administrator's duties!" --Kyoko 15:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

RFARB

Per your statement on RFARB, that is exactly what I was trying to achieve with the third afd before it was so unceremoniously closed. I would be incredibly happy to get an afd for that article that ran full term and was closed by an uninvolved admin - it came to arbitration because certain members of the community point blank refused to let that happen. Viridae^Talk 00:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

This is what I don't get with this case, what was the problem with letting the AfD run it's full course? The same thing happened with the Brandt case and we all know what went on then. We need to sort this one out as a community in a few days time (per my statement) - the arbitration case has just turned into a bitch fight - if it gets accepted I'm not looking forward to seeing the workshop. Any suggestions of how we could get this sorted? I really don't know where to go from here to stop it going to arbitration. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:04, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thats the problem, I have no idea where to go from here. My only suggestion would be an arbcom mandated afd - but I don't know wether they would do that. An afd that is forced to be opened and more importantly remain open by the arbitration commitee could stop this issue coming to fully blown arbitration. You could then have it closed by a member of the committee, simply somone respected to determine consensus - not someone that that would force their own views. But as I said, I think it is unlikely this will occur, and I find it even more likely that in the current state, anything like an RFC would have any effect - possibly inflame things further. I simply want to see the community discuss this articles merits like adults without interference from people pushing an agenda. I would then like to see any discussion closed at an appropriate time (and in this situation an appropriate time is 5 days or more from when the afd is opened) by a totally impartial member of the community. Thats why I opened the third afd (consensus in the DRV clearly showed that people were unhappy with the previous afds) and thats why I was so pissed off that it was closed early, after running so smoothly. I can't understand why people seem to think IAR is greater than common sense. Previous incidents have shown that the more people try to force discussion to go away, when there is a large subset of the community that is unhappy with that, the more it will come back. Law of unintended consequences. Viridae^Talk 01:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :-)

But remember: Don't drink and drive coach! ;-) Regards, Húsönd 01:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Your work with other users

Ryan, I'd like to commend you for your work in communicating with other users in tight spots- specifically Gurch and BuickCenturyDriver. You've done a fantastic job in attempting to work out the problems with the users while both assuming good faith and calling a spade a spade. Keep it up. Teke^talk 04:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to second that, actually, and add to the list User:Betacommand - although that didn't end up the way I think you hoped it would - you objected, strongly, to him losing his bit - you handled it well and admirably throughout. Many of us who supported your RFA have watched with pride. Philippe 05:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

PalestineRemembered

Hi Ryan, I notice that you have proposed a principle that CSN should only enforce a ban if it reaches consensus, and a finding that consensus was not reached. As you are probably aware, PR currently has an effective block, and is under threat of being instantly banned if edits outside the RfArb. This has already caused problems, when such an edit (which was in the spirit of the block), resulted in him being temporarily banned again (this has been remedied).

Who should we talk to to have his current "parole" lifted? Blocks are not meant to be punitive, and he is yet to see any evidence of any wrong-doing since his last block. The current block is affecting his ability to defend against any claims that might come up in the RfArb. Mark Chovain 09:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

In reference to this motion in the PR RfArb: I'm a little flaky on the process (I know, not good for an advocate ;)). Is it enough for you to pass the motion, or does PR need to wait for something else to happen before he can edit? Mark Chovain 13:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Cheers.

Hey Ryan, Thanks for the nomination, the kind words, the support, and the final thanks for my RfA. Oh the nominator might have been drunk but the nominee was drunk in accepting. But in all seriousness, you've done alot of work in promoting the adminship is no big deal argument and hopefully one day in the near future RfA will be seen to be exactly that. I have my first nom looking to pass hopefully tomorrow, and have a few more in my sights, but I think you should have a serious look at Gracenotes and twist his arm a bit. Any way thanks again, and if you need owt you know where I am. Cheers ^Khukri 16:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank-You

Thank You for closing my RfA

Booksworm ^{Talk to me!} 14:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Story Part III

After Tellyaddict drops me like a stone, I thought it could'nt get any worse, it did, Ryan here, Blocked me!!!! out of it, I learned something, Never Trust An Admin Who Advertizes Their Drunkness!

TO BE CONTINUEDseriously
—Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 19:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

K2 Network

No worries at all on the delay, and good luck on your exams. :) I've made some additions to the site including links to news articles. Just let me know when you have the time available to have a look, and we'll go from there. Thank you again for your help with all of this.

Xandamere 23:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thanks!

I'd like to thank you formally for the support you gave me both before and during my RfA - It really helped to know at the start that you thought that I would make a good administrator. I'll try to live up to that expectation. Thank you. Nihiltres(t.c.s) 17:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll make sure to use this well.

Thanks!

Thanks for the revert on my userpage. And while on wikibreak no less. Keep fighting the good fight, and best of luck with the finals. --TeaDrinker 18:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Skoolz Out 4 Summur!

I Just graduated from middle school last friday!!!!

Look Out 9^TH grade!!!!—Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 18:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

PR Advocacy

No, I'm not operating as part of AMA. I've got a breif explanation of my advocacy on my User page. PR was on my watch-list since I was involved in resolving a minor dispute (not involving him) that had erupted on his page during one of his blocks - I saw the discussion, and decided to get involved. Apart from dealing with an advocate in the Abu Ali/Brilliance debate (one of the editors had an AMA assigned advocate), I've never had anything to do with the AMA. Mark Chovain 21:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

To answer the first half of your question, I see my role as advocate is to offer PR independent advice (offwiki), and generally assist him in presenting his arguments to the RfArb. Mark Chovain 21:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

This isn't something I've had a chance to give much thought, so here's a brain-dump. I see it more as being a temporary "buddy" than being a lawyer. I suppose there are similarities to being a lawyer. The biggest differences I can think of are:

• A lawyer is someone who knows the rules so well that they know how to bend them. I pointed out in my original email to PR offering to advocate for him that I really don't know the rules well. I'm really just trying to guide him through the process, and learn it as I go. I have no plan to bend the rules.
• A lawyer is someone who is retained by a client to represent them, no matter what. (They represent people regardless of their innocence). While it's no secret that PR and I don't see eye to eye on politics, I wouldn't have offered to take on this role had I not thought he was being treated unfairly. If PR pisses me off during the RfArb, I'll be out of there. If he were to exploit my efforts (if he were to do something stupid now that the block is lifted), I'd be out of there.
• I don't really represent him, either. I'll speak on his behalf if I know his thoughts on a matter and he can't comment for whatever reason (time zone differences, normally), but ultimately, his word is gospel over mine in the RfArb.

The similarities?

• I'm try not to get personally involved in the debate (I admit I let the whole ongoing block thing get to me a bit though, and let off a bit of steam).
• As a related note, if I see an editor make a good point against him, I'm not going to suddenly jump in and say, "Yeah, excellent point, lets ban him!" I'll take that point to him, and we'll discuss how that should affect his arguments. There's a certain expectation from PR that I'm on his side.
• I'll let him know if he's done something that I think is going to work against him. I'm not sure that it's really a similarity with a lawyer, but I'll put it here anyway, because this is a brain dump :).
• I am more experienced than him as an editor, and have been on the better side of the process throughout my time as an editor. I hope that he can gain from my experience and knowledge. I don't think PR would make a good advocate for this reason, just as lawyers tend not to be people with shady pasts.

It's as much a lawyer role as is your friend's when you meet up in a pub to discuss a great idea you've had, or discuss a problem you've had. The only difference is that he knew nothing of me, and I knew little of him when we started this arrangement.

PR could have tried to get through this with his wikifriends, but the problem with wikifriendships is that they become ingrained, and everyone knows it. For 90% of the editors in that discussion we already know which side they're going to support and it's so easy for me to dismiss your perfectly valid points because "you reverted my change on Thursday, and put something in its place that I disagree with" (hypothetically ;)). The same thing will still happen to me ("Your point sucks because you're sticking up for someone with a different POV to me"), but I'm just that little step removed. What is a real shame, is that some administrators, those who have been deemed by the community to be exemplary editors, and have been entrusted with the ability to indirectly influence content through careful application of the mop are doing it too. But I digress...

Unlike real life friends, Wikifriends feed off each other, and become little more than yes-people - they become an unbreakable ball of goo that careers to the nearest end of the false dichotomy that is wikipedia debate. As his advocate, I get to give PR a fresh viewpoint, and get to have mine tested. At the end of the day, we'll both go our separate ways, and we'll hopefully have changed equally.

I was also starting to see similarities with solicitors, but thankfully, that's over now ;). Mark Chovain 22:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I just had a revelation: A lawyer is a lawyer because that's what they do. AMA was full of lawyers. They practised wiki-law - that's what they did. Once this RfArb is over, I'll go back to editing. Now you've made me late for work ;). Mark Chovain 23:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canadian Royal Family (second nom)

Hi, I noticed you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canadian Royal Family (second nom) as redirect to Monarchy in Canada. I was not involved in that discussion, but I noticed that the redirect has since been changed to redirect to Royal Family of Canada which appears to be a recreation of the deleted content from Canadian Royal Family. I wondered if you would mind taking a look; I do not wish to revert anything myself as I may not be acquainted with all the relevant facts and debates. Thanks CIreland 22:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Arrghhh, thankyou for that - I didn't notice it. I've sorted it all out now, and eft a warning for the user that recreated the article. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bugging you, but the same content is also here: Royal family of Canada with different capitalization of the article name. I would have put a speedy G4 tag on it, but the AFD debate was differently named so it may not be easy for another admin to find the debate. CIreland 00:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Good day may I ask you a question?How do I create an acount,thank you sir have a lovely day-24.123.38.215 22:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Well

I'll give you a hint ;). (Just don't tell anyone else, that is why I didn't use page move.) --AnonGuy 23:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Ha! And what an excellent username it is, too. Plus ca changes, plus c'est la meme chose ... :) - Alison ☺ 23:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Sock account

Oops, I forgot I can ask you for help... Thanks! *Cremepuff222* 00:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Royal family of Canada

I was maintaing another article to keep a record of the information somewhere. I certainly hope the cited content you've now completely deleted all record of can be recovered. --G2bambino 00:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Canadian Royal Family. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. G2bambino 00:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the deletion log, Samuel Blanning had found last year that a merge had occurred, so we need at least some of the history back for GFDL purposes. Can you correct this? GRBerry 01:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring the history. I will not alter the redirect. --G2bambino 15:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

You obviously know about the ANI discussion that you started. The issue has come back to DRV solely for discussion of the redirect. I opened it as a separate discussion, to keep it separate from opinions involving the need to restore the GFDL history. GRBerry 17:23, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, cheers for the notification, I just corrected the AfD link in the template. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Is it really Boswell ?

This is your adoptee Chemical Engineer from Thornbury speaking. For some reason I haven't been able to log in since I got a message about the strenght of my password. My password was weak as .... I could create a new identity. Any ideas? Regards The real Boswell, 58.107.202.74 09:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

moved from Zsinj's talk page

I disagree. Dropping the banhammer on newbies too quickly is bad enough (did you see Radiant's note about username blocks?), but blocking an established contributor unfairly is about the WORST thing an administrator can do, short of revealing deleted/privy information. Improper page deletions are easily undone and practically invisible; overzealous page protection is irritating to editors but temporary. But improper blocks have the real potential to drive off contributors (luckily/unluckily, jeff is too hard-headed to be driven off that easily) and is not easily fixed by saying "oops, sorry". I'm not saying he can't EVER be an administrator, but whether he actually made the choice on his own or allowed himself to be talked into it on IRC, it shows a stunning lack of judgment. -- nae'blis 16:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Well the username blocks was a little worrying, but I've got to say that the username policy isn't the most clear cut policy we've got. I agree that blocking Jeff was bad, really bad in fact - but I don't believe why we should be calling for his head so quickly. I don't get how this is so different from any other time an admin blocks someone completely out of process, they don't get shot for it, the get a slap on the wrist and that's it. I just can't agree that someone should be made to resign due to one poor descision that was probably backed up by others somewhere. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Story Part IV

this is a different story, it's part of the first draft for Mixed Nuts

                   "Mixed Nuts"

                        BLANK SCREEN

                        TY (VO)
    I used to think that this was a normal life, but now I know better.

                        CUT TO INT. A TEENAGE BOY'S BED - MORNING

TY BRUSH is lying in his bed asleep, holding a PEICE OF COQUINA in his hand.
His mom, FRAN, comes in through the door.

                        FRAN
                      (sternly and loudly)
  Get Up!

Ty rolls around in his bed.

                         TY
  Okay, (whispering) not.

                         FRAN
  I heard that buster!

                         MONTAGE INT. HOUSE
Ty gets up, takes a shower, dries off, takes allergy meds, gets dressed,
helps his brother put on his shoes, relaxes.

                          INT. HOUSE
Ty is relaxing when he hears a BEEP. he grabs his stuff, and gets on the bus.

—Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 19:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Did User:24.136.230.38 ever say what his account was now? I agree with him being admin material, and would be swift to support him </random> Anyway, any idea on how to find out?--Whstchy 20:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Insensitive

I think your comments on PalestineRemembered (talk · contribs)'s talk page were quite rude and insensitive: [3] Don't you think that it is normal for someone who was blocked for over a week for doing nothing blockable would be interested in getting an explanation for that? How exactly do his comments on the page of an arbcomm opened to deal with the false accusation against him constitute "trolling"? I think you owe him an apology. Tiamut 23:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

No I don't, he's just causing a stir now. By all means he can attempt to show on the workshop or evidence page that the block was unfair, whilst editing the encyclopedia, not just kick up a fuss. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)