Talk:Charles Rocket

"I'd like to know who fucking did it" sounds wrong, it sounds like "i'd like to know who the fuck did it" http://www.zebrality.com/article.php?article_id=11351

http://www.zebrality.com/media/2005/rocket.wmv

Looking for a source

Note that TVtome.com says that the F-word incident occurred during a sketch. Anyone got another source?

I'm looking at the Yahoo link for eonline and SNL -- it's in there under "get cast secrets" link, which takes you to http://yahoo.eonline.com/On/Tales/Shows/Snl/index2.html

I saw the episode, I have the episode. It was in the goodnights, not a sketch. There ya go :-) And by the way, Charles Rocket isn't dead. (As far as I know. One of his castmates thinks that just a rumor.)

I'm afraid that the news disagrees with you: Ex-'SNL' Comedian's Death Ruled a Suicide I've always been disappointed that Charles Rocket's work was not more appreciated.

What Kind of Suicide is That?

Am I the only one who finds it odd that a person would commit suicide by cutting his own throat?

I wonder if he owed someone influential a lot of money...Kaz 02:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

to what end such speculation? unless you have some facts, why speculate in this regard? perhaps he had marital problems. perhaps he was recently diagnosed with cancer and chose to leave of his own volition. perhaps he was suffering some form of madness. perhaps many, many things. the reason he chose to kill himself by slitting his throat, and the reason he chose to kill himself at all, may be things we will never know. and really - are they any of our business? Anastrophe 09:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

>>Perhaps it was a horrible shaving accident!

That stuff about "a field near his home" is wrong; according to his sister, it was his own yard.

---Warning - not for the fainthearted---

It is definatley possible to commit suicide by cutting your own throat.( there were several cases I read about, in Victorian England ages, before I heard about Charlie Rocket)

My info came from 2 sources ( who I will not disclose). Charlie used 2 box cutters ( stanley knives) 1 for each side of his throat. He got these from his toolbox which was kept in the main barn on his land. He walked out & went into a lush area & well you can figure out the rest.

I have also read on the internet that everything was found with him & that's why it was ruled a suicide quickly.

This shows his desperation. He was pushed over the edge. He was due to have gone to film the Saturday Night Live 80's documentary a few hours after his body was found. Coincidence - no way man...

Before i got all my info i had so many doubts as to his suicide but when i found out some things the evidence told me I was wrong & that it was suicide.yasmin YasminAnjum 01:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

What is up with the Tribute?

That last paragraph about the Tribute during the SNL Anniversary show is extremely vague. Anyone know enough about it to clear it up?

---If you're referring to the fact that it wasn't even shown on certain affiliate stations, I too would appreciate verification of this. It aired on the Canadian broadcast I saw of it, and given that it was part of the SNL show, I assume it was a mandatory part of the broadcast. It seems highly unlikely that certain affiliates of the show or of NBC would opt not broadcast it, and I cannot find any verification of this. If someone knows about this, please state so explicitly. Wencer 06:59, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

(IchBin 17:39, 25 December 2005 (UTC)) Took out dated CNN coverage link. Article was not found.

thingie

this sentence: that his style on Weekend Update was evidently later adapted by Dennis Miller.)

is it supposed to be adapted, or adopted? If adopted its self-explanatory, but if adapted, then adapted in what way?

I meant adopted.

Cleanup?

I removed the hastily added poem that seemed to just be dropped in there at random and removed the cleanup tag along with it since I presume that it why it was tagged in the first place. If the article had a legitimate reason aside from that for being tagged then someone can retag it at their liberty. 65.145.213.126 05:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

photo in infobox

Whenever I put a photo in biography infobox the photo expands and becomes stretched out and fuzzy, is there any way I can fix this? Registered User 92

• Nevermind, I found a way. Registered User 92

Law & Order: Criminal Intent Appearance

In his last television appearance (Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Season 3, Episode 13) he portrayed 'Donny DePalma', a suicidal bank robber who hatches an elaborate scheme to commit suicide-by-cop because he's avoiding a slow, painful death by prostate cancer. At one point toward the end of the episode, he utters the words: "It's not true; I'm not suicidal!" Does anyone think this is enough of an interesting coincidence to mention in the article? - jibegod 03:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

During the filming of this episode not only did Charlie Rocket suffer with a finger injury to his middle finger of his left hand ( not part of the storyline ) he was also suffering from untreated depression.

In one scene he looks fine, his hair is combed back & quiet black & he has no finger injury but in the next scene which is literally moments later in the story line - his face looks fuller, his hair is loose & much greyer & he has a bandage on his finger.

I am satisfied that around the same time as filming this episode Charlie got so depressed that on a website he wrote the following words " Does anybody know who I am anymore"

He wrote other stuff in the same week this episode was 1st aired in the US, this shows he was severely depressed. Coincidence - I think not

Entries are:

Does anybody know who I am anymore? Posted by: Charles Rocket | December 29, 2003 at 02:39 PM

I was also in Dances With Wolves and It's Pat. Posted by: Charles Rocket | December 30, 2003 at 09:04 AM

I like this song. Posted by: charles rocket | January 08, 2004 at 08:56 AM

Me too. I usually look to your blog for my emotional needs. Recently, though, I've been getting my emotional hugs from a bottle of Cognac. If my career dies because of my temper issues, trust me, you'll be the first to know. Posted by: Charles Rocket | February 20, 2004 at 02:25 PM

you will find them on this website:

http://jumbledpileofperson.typepad.com/jmsr/2003/12/back_in_the_sad.html & http://jumbledpileofperson.typepad.com/jmsr/2004/02/nuttin_for_chri.html & http://jumbledpileofperson.typepad.com/jmsr/2004/01/seventeen_by_th.html

( i'm trying to be neutral here but I can't - believe me when I say I was shocked to find them & i verified they were his because of what was going on in his life around that time & secondly by chkg the email addresses linked - they dont exist)

The way he acted in this part is no coincidence - he got it from deep inside himself. yasmin YasminAnjum 00:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

see above. I further add the dates in which Charlie Rocket took part in filming the Law & Order episode. They were from 22nd December 2003 to 14th January 2004. I got these from a co-executive producer that worked on Criminal Intent. The evidence tells me the man was ill in real life. & In the dance sequence with Margi he looks so different to how he looks in the final interview sequence - bearing in mind the storyline is over only a few days - how can someone change so much in a few days? YasminAnjum 19:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Edited out Michael O'Donahue reference

Death is not a race, and the fact that Charles Rocket was the oldest SNL cast member at the time of his death is fact enough. He didn't "beat" Mr. O'Donahue. For that matter, O'Donahue DID beat him by dying chronologically earlier than him! Sorry for the spelling mistakes, if any. -Jkazoo 08:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

This article looks like fan memorial page.

I put the NPOV tag. --Spikelee 05:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

• I don't mind the NPOV tag, because looking at it today, it was a goddamn hatefest.

1. I'm not a fan, but the guy worked, and kept working. He could not have done so if it was as awful as previous editors made out.
2. The article DEFINITELY needs more citations, if only to ward off edit wars.
3. The Suicide section was written by a ghoul; not even to newspaper death announcement standards.
4. The filmography was missing notable work, and some was deliberately delinked.
5. The box office duds (voiceover in Titan A.E., and his supporting role in Fathers' Day) simply could not have been his fault - the wording blamed him explicitly. I hope it's better now.

--Lexein 03:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

• Man, was that rough. Anyways, did some edits, to address POV. --Lexein 20:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Lexein, needs citations. Specifically, there are direct quotations and no clear sources. Additionally, I removed the "POV" tag (it is not an NPOV tag). The use here is the definition of "Drive-by tagging" which is expressly forbidden on WP:NPOV_dispute. It needs work, and I support the work being done. There are some MINOR issues with POV, but nothing warranting the POV tag. Further use of this tag should adhere to WP:NPOV_dispute guidelines specifically "address the issues on the talk page, pointing to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies." (man I used specific a lot there) DocGratis 14:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Death - order

This sentence in the obit is continuing to be edit-warred:

"Rocket is the oldest deceased SNL castmember (two years older at death than Michael O'Donoghue), the first deceased SNL castmember who did not work under Lorne Michaels, and the first Weekend Update anchor to pass away."

I've moved it here for discussion. There seems to be some joy for some editors in chronicling the exact order of die-off for participants in any popular entertainment medium. I don't understand it, but I've noticed it. --Lexein 20:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)