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Fethullah Gulen

Please help this article achieve some sort of NPOV and stability; just go through the recent edits to get an understand of the kind of sanitization going on. I am having difficulties with philscirel (talk · contribs) and 76.181.224.82 (talk) Could someone check for sockpuppets? --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 15:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

If you have evidence of sockpuppetry, you can file a report at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. --BelovedFreak 11:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually the problem is very much ongoing. NPOV issues are widespread. --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 19:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

More Eyes please

Please could some other people have a look at Pushkin House. I'm in the middle of a content dispute which comes down to me placing a notability tag (more than once) and another user repeatedly removing it. I may very well be in the wrong and just not be reading the article properly but, I don't want to edit war or end up with WP:OWN accusations. I'm not planning on going back to the article again until a 3rd opinion can be obtained. Thank you. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

List of shopping malls in the Southern Hemisphere

Does anyone else think this article is somewhat pointless and probably unmaintainable ? CultureDrone (talk) 08:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment I agree that unless it is a list of notable shopping malls and that information is referenced properly that you are probably correct. Although bringing up more specific concerns on the talkpage of the article might be better (why you feel it is "somewhat pointless and probably unmaintainable" for example. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

• NOTE: The page has been proposed for deletion. Fleetflame 00:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Undeletion of article titled Consumer Protection Council, Rourkela

Stale

 – --BelovedFreak 12:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I had submitted an article titled Consumer Protection Council, Rourkela, on 13th July 08. I found that the same was deleted due to certain technical reasons.

At the outset, kindly note that I am not yet fully familiar with the existing system of submitting articles for Wikipedia, giving references, etc. I may be excused for that. But the fact that a self-sustaining voluntary consumer organisation, serving the community free of charges and still taking up some important issues and resolving them needs to be recorded in a prestigious on-line encyclopedia, is my humble opinion.

Hence when the article was deleted, I had given the perspective in which the whole thing needs consideration.

Then, as I understood, that the article will not be considered without proper references, I gave a list of references.

Still, I find that the undeletion is not taking place and I was advised to refer to WP:DR. From that page I found that requesting Editor's Assitance may be a way of resolving the present issue.

Please try to help me. Shall be obliged.(Firstindyan (talk) 13:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC))

Hi, I think you should have been directed to WP:DRV, which is where deletions can be reviewed. Another option would be to draft a new article in your userspace, perhaps at User:Firstindyan/sandbox and make sure you include some good references to establish that the council is notable. --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Help me improve the Mu Dynamics wiki page

Resolved

 – advice given. --BelovedFreak 12:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

We are seeing a notice on the Mu Dynamics wiki page that requests improvements -- and I think I have made them. Here is the note:

The introduction to this article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject.
Please help improve the article with a good introductory style.

Now that I think I have addressed these concerns, how can we get the notice removed? Are further changes needed?? I'm just trying to get along here.

Thanks! Tmaufer (talk) 00:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)tom

Hi, thanks for posting here. I've read the article twice, and I don't know what the company makes. I think it needs to be much more simple and more straightforward. Something like "Mu Dynamics was founded in 19xx by Mr. Y and Mr. Z. The company makes widgets and sprockets, and is developing a line of services to advise buyers on how best to use them. The company had revenues of $N million in 2007." I was going to edit the page but I realised I couldn't figure out what to write. Perhaps you could try to simplify it, and I'll keep an eye on it and offer some suggestions? Make sure to cite reliable sources. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 01:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Category change re: Scott Mutter

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 – Information has been added to article. --BelovedFreak 13:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Scott mutter was found dead on Mar 8 08 at his park ridge home. as a personal friend of his I have some info to add to his page once I learn how. In the meantime however changing categories is beyond me, if you would oblige, his obit appeared in the Chicago Tribune Mar 11 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcochronos (talk • contribs) 05:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. To start with, have a read of Wikipedia:Tutorial, Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Your first article which should help you with the basics. Bear in mind that as a friend of Scott Mutter, you have a conflict of interest. You can still edit the article but just make sure that everything is from a neutral point of view and has references to reliable sources. I can't find the article you mentioned online, so if you have access to it, please do amend the details accordingly. Make sure you include the details of the source you are using and don't worry if it's not perfect, we can help you afterwards. For the categories, at the bottom of the page you would delete [[Category:Living people]] and put [[Category:2008 deaths]]. If the date of birth is unknown, you would put [[Category:Year of birth missing]]. Come back here if you have problems. --BelovedFreak 12:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Photo Edward Wilkerson Jr

Stale

 – no further response from Jmarren. --BelovedFreak 13:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Edward Wilkerson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have today tried to post a photo taken by family, i.e., no copywrite issues, only to find the site is protected. I don't understand this as I am the originator of his entry. What are the guidelines for protecting a site? Judith Marren —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmarren (talk • contribs) 18:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, could you give more details on what happened? The article doesn't appear to be protected. Did you try to upload a picture? Occasionally the database is locked as the database catches up with itself. (Or something.... not sure on the technical details...) This stops anyone from editing but doesn't usually last very long. Why don't you try again? --BelovedFreak 19:09, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) In trying to figure out what exactly it is you encountered that you refer to as "protected" (which has a very specific meaning here): the article Edward Wilkerson is not and has never been protected; your account is not and has never been blocked; you are autoconfirmed; and your previous image upload of File:Edward Wilkerson Jr.jpg was deleted in November 2007 under CSD I7, but has not been protected against re-creation. Given this, I hope you will return here and describe exactly what it is you encountered, what page or what action triggered the event you refer to to protected, and what it said. If you are referring to the image deletion, well, you can re-create the image but it will only be deleted again if you do not supply a valid license; release under a free license such as the GFDL or a valid fair use rationale. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:09, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Can I get some help understanding the policy regarding reverts and talk pages

Greg Land (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm working on references for the Controversy section of the page for Greg Land, and a user keeps deleting the section. I don't want to break the 3 reverts rule, but he is not using the talk page so I can't even have a basic conversation with him (he wrote an argument against the section existing on the page itself rather than the talk page).

I've shortened the section and I want to add more references to be sure the point is well-established, but I've already had a lot of edits in the last 2 days so I'm trying to avoid breaking rules about reverts and/or ending up in an edit war with 'scottfavor', what is the appropriate process? Jack Fool (talk) 00:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for coming here. Sometimes, it helps to allow a little time to pass. Once the heat of the moment has gone, things are a little clearer. I think you're familiar with WP:3RR, and reliable sources are always important. You might try posting a message at the other editor's talk page, too. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Help with a disruptive editor

Apparently

Resolved

 – Per posting user. Fleetflame 00:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm requesting assistance with User:Sbuxlover4 on repeated disruptive edits to SouthPark Mall (Charlotte, North Carolina), but more importantly for inappropriate behavior towards other editors (namely me). I already know about Request comment on users but I'm the only other editor involved so far so at very least I'd appreciate somebody else chiming in on the subject so it can go further if needed.

The basic overview can be found on the editor's talk page and on the article's talk page. For the shorter version...
1) Removing properly cited facts and replacing with alternate unsourced claim.
2) Then trying to cite a source than made no mention of the claim.
3) Then trying to cite a source that used the same wikipedia article as its source.
4) I politely explained the situation to Sbuxlover4 in private on their talk page.
5) My private explanation was ignored so I addressed the issue politely on the article's talk page too.
6) Sbuxlover4 has three times deleted half of the entire article. I admit this seems to be by accident due to bad editing. I explained how to preveiw (or at least checking what you did before leaving) and provided links to how to use ref tags, but again and again I was ignored.
7) Now it's getting to be personal attacks with him falsely accusing me of vandalism - twice - and on the article's public talk page rather than making such accusations in private on either my talk page or replying to my existing comments on his own talk page.
8) And after all this, today he edited the article AGAIN without citing a source. The changed facts may or may not be correct but we'll never know without sources.

He ignores all warnings, and now he's just flaming others (me) in public. Please help. I'm tired of dealing with this ____. Fife Club (talk) 16:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for posting here. I took a look at the edit history, and also at your talk pages, and it seems like you and Sbuxlover4 have straightened this out between you, which is of course the best possible outcome. For what it's worth, it seems likely that Sbuxlover4 just made a couple of mistakes. The account only has 50-odd edits, and the edits that "deleted half the article" seemed to have some messed-up ref tags. Annoying? Sure. Could have been avoided? Absolutely. Worth a big fuss? Depends on your point of view, I suppose. Thanks for showing sbuxlover4 some tips on refs and such. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

btw, you can create numbered bullets by starting each line with #. Happy editing, --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

It does appear to be settling down now. Thanks. Fife Club (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Question about University of San Francisco article

I have been editing the University of San Francisco article a bit. Another user: Usfcastudent and I have a disagreement about how the article opening paragraph should read. I have outlined my position on the article's discussion page, written him on his discussion page. Requested comment from others, and finally tagged the article with the disputed label. Each time he reverts the article to his point of view without offering explanation on the page. This time he reverted away my dispute tag. What should I do? I don't want to escalate this into too much of a fight, but I am unclear about the correct step for proceeding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitamarine (talk • contribs) 01:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks like they've stopped editing now. There looks to be a conflict of interest with that other user based on their name. Dispute resolution is definitely the way to go; if they continue to refuse discussing, you might need to ask for help at WP:AN/I. Opening a case at the Mediation Cabal would be a good next step, though it won't be productive if they keep refusing to talk. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Adding website to Rickmansworth

Resolved

 – Andrew reposted the link. Fleetflame 00:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Rickmansworth (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello,

My husband tried to add a website to the Rickmansworth information page, but it was deleted by the administrator as it was cited as an act of vandalism. The website www.rickmansworthweb.co.uk is a news and information website which gives local community news and provides news from the police force, the local council and local businesses. The site has been a handy resource for us, as it has restaurant reviews, information on local sports clubs and schools, plus for young mothers the ability to find out about local classes in the area.

We are surprised why it has been cited as vandalism, as it is a very important resource for those of us who have found it.

If it could be reinstated we think a lot of other people would find it's information helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.73.101.7 (talk) 12:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, It does seem a little harsh to label that vandalism. I'll try re-adding it and we'll see if anyone challenges it. --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Guessing that because of the site address someone may have mistaken it for "spam" and labelled it wrong. I've had a look and it looks okay to me (just in case you wanted a second opinion). Jasynnash2 (talk) 16:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Much appreciated. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Requesting Editor Assistance (as 2nd step in dispute resolution)

A number of editors and I have been trying to post information to the Virginia Military Institute page. The information we are trying to post is from a neutral source, the US News and World Report college rankings for 2008. This information was first posted on 7 February 2008 by user:Pikepk1 with appropriate and full citations. In the intervening 166 days, it has been reverted 41 times. 38 of these times has been by user:Rillian who claims it is POV and who has bounced it against the WP:PRESTIGE guideline. On two separate occasions, user:Rillian has also violated WP:3RR in this edit war, first at 14:41, 19 February 2008 and then again at 16:46, 22 April 2008.

Obviously, we disagree. The current state of argument/discussion/dispute is posted on an administator's talk page at: User_talk:El_C#Virginia_Military_Institute and on the Talk page Talk:Virginia Military Institute. The former link has some history on the dispute, including a reversion history. Talk:Virginia Military Institute/Archive 4#Rankings has some archived historical discussion on this topic between two of the parties. The administrator user:El_C has fully protected the Virginia Military Institute page and asked the parties to go back to the Talk:Virginia Military Institute for further discussion. Since this has not worked in the past, I would like to move up the dispute resolution ladder of WP:DR and ask for Editor Assistance in this dispute.

Thank you.

98.204.199.179 (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for posting here. Looks like you did the right thing by stating your position at the talk page. I'd suggest you allow a couple of days at least for any other interested parties to express an opinion. Who knows, some discussion might lead to a mutually agreed outcome. I realise you'd like to make this happen quickly, but there is no deadline! I'll add the page to my watchlist. Let's revisit it in a few days' time. --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

NPOV in Egor Lavrov article?

I am looking for help in dispute resolution for edits pertaining to an individual's article (Egor Lavrov). Although the edits I made were to approach NPOV, it appears as though every edit has been reverted by the creator of the page. Any recommendations for negotiation to convince the individual that these are not attempts to vandalize the article would be appreciated. special4k4 (talk) 14:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks for posting here. It looks like User:Registrator1 has been showing some WP:OWN-ish behaviour. It also looks like the page could do with some better support for its notability. I'll drop a note on Registrator1's talk page and we'll see if that helps. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Make sure you don't remove the references, though. In this edit, you did some fact tagging and removed some external links, but I think the information needing sourced was in some of those. I changed the tag to {{nofootnotes}}. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:20, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Can't correct error on a protected page

High Lane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The entry for 'High Lane' ssays the village is on the Peak Forest canal. It isn't. It isits on the Macclesfield Canal (the Peak Forest canal is a few miles away). I've tried to edit the page but it is protected and I just go round in circles trying to work out how to correct the entry. Help ! Henry Keswick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henry Keswick (talk • contribs) 14:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'm guessing that you're referring to High Lane? It's not protected, in the sense used here which means that only admins can edit it. I don't see any edits to it under your user name, although you might have edited it without logging in. Perhaps you could come back here with a bit more information about what you tried to do and what happened? --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Whitstable

Resolved

 – Fleetflame 00:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I quried the Wikipedia article about the Kent town of Whitstable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitstable

I found the page to have been rendered unintelligible by some sort of vandlism or graffiti. I do not know how to repair it. Please assist.

(email removed per policy)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.204.230 (talk) 15:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I took a look and it seems OK now. Vandalism is usually fixed quickly. If you're still seeing a problem then please post again. Thanks, --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

problem with another editor

ScienceApologist is deleting the content, references, and images from the process equation article because they were placed there by me [1]. He dislikes my edits on Talk:WP:Fringe and is trying to retaliate. Need some assistance with the article.

Another example of his non-constructive edit is here[2] where he put back the invalid link, only because valid one was placed by me.

Lakinekaki (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for posting here. I can see what ScienceApologist is doing, but beyond edit summaries I don't know why. Please add more info to your post if you can show that you know why, otherwise it looks like you might not be assuming good faith. On the first diff you cited, you hadd added some text about creating 'bios' or 'infinitation', neither of which make sense there. The rest of your edit might or might not have been useful, but you don't help your case there. On the second diff the url did look like it might not work, and ScienceApologist used an edit summary describing your edit as good faith. You then reverted, with a somewhat confrontational edit summary, and that version stands. Please try to assume good faith, and realise that we can all make mistakes. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Huh?! What are you referring to here with 'infinitation'? I was quoting cited articles. Whether it makes sense or not to readers is another issue. Scienceapologist used false statements in edit summaries to justify deletion of the content on process equation article[3], and when he realized that didn't work, he switched to ad hominem arguments. In second case, SA didn't test URL, but had actually assumed a bad faith and that I would place 'messed up' URL and had reverted my edit without bothering to click on the link and see where it links to. He also started editing few other articles that he saw in my contributions list -- therefore he finds some interest in my edits, and somehow his edits tend to be deletions, often with no explanation or with false excuses. Lakinekaki (talk) 22:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, this edit appears to be ScienceApologist's first reversion of you in that article, and you added the words 'bios' and 'infinitation'. Whether or not it makes sense to readers is a huge, core, issue; if your editing doesn't make sense to readers then what value does it have? As for the url, it looks like a good faith error to me. Such things happen. As for the rest of your accusations, I'm not going to go searching for examples to support you. You'll need to cite specifics. --AndrewHowse (talk) 23:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

You really expect to understand a mathematical article from edit difference, without looking at images[4], and references that were deleted[5] along with words 'bios' and 'infinitation'? Lakinekaki (talk) 23:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

No, nor did I do that. All I'm suggesting is that if your edits use made-up words then they'll probably be reverted. --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

My edits don't use made-up words. If you read the cited papers, you would find those words there. I am confused why you offered to 'help' when you are not really trying to? SA first deleted the reference where those words were used, and than he deleted those words. You are attributing 'making this up' to me without even bothering to read the article and its references. Thanks but no thanks for your help. Lakinekaki (talk) 00:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I guess I don't think it would be useful to other readers. Happy editing, --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't think that, for example, today's featured article is useful to me, nor other readers, but I don't go there to delete stuff I don't like. Lakinekaki (talk) 00:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

A different user is now reinstating ScienceApologist's edits, with the summary "general fixes". Could be a sockpuppet or meatpuppet. I don't remotely understand the subject of this article, so I can't really give an outside opinion of the diagrams. I'd recommend the Mediation Cabal or Mediation Committee. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Mobile Caller ID

it exists, the information is on my talk page.

I am fully disclaiming that i represent the entity that owns the patent.

I have posted the relevant information on my talk page.

Please add the relevant information at your discretion to the CallerId wiki page.

Thank you

MCCSteve (talk) 19:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for posting here. Is there anything that establishes the notability of the invention? Y'know, non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable sources? Thanks. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Legal threat

Resolved

 – Per here; user has been blocked for six months. Fleetflame 01:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Editor:

I seek assistance with a messgage left on my talk page. I have been watching and editing the article on the band Blessid Union of Souls for a little while. I was made aware by another user in April that two founders of the band each had a group using the same name, both with an online presence. In April 2008 we reached a comprimise edit that mentioned both group's claim. I have since been keeping both claims in tact on the artcile as various parties tried to assert one groups claim over the other. In light of no real vailidation to either side's claim I thought it best to mention both groups, which claim in separate websites to be touring as Blessid Union of Souls.

On July 23rd, 2008 I recieved an unsigned comment stating the following:

"NeuGye,

First off, would you be so kind as to please provide your full name.

Secondly, I/We appreciate your patronage and your attempts to document a profile of the band's (Blessid Union of Souls) history as you perceive it. However, you, as well as Mr. Jeff Pence, now find yourselves in violation of Federal Service Marks, as well as Federal Trademark, agreements. You asked for 1 reason, however, I can give you many reasons ($15,000) why you should not involve yourself in this present lawsuit. If you feel obligated to continue, then we will have no choice but to also file suit against you.

As far as we are concerned, there is nothing further to discuss. We changed our Wikipedia site to tell the truth and to not slander anyone. If you would like to go further with this, then be assured that this will be handled swiftly and strongly.

buosmgnt"

I now wish to seek assistance in how to procede. I am simply editing a wikipedia article to keep a neutral tone in light of no evidence to settle the dispute. I have posted comments at various points to this effect and have added comments on the talk page. Assuming my talk page was not vandalized by some fifteen year old in Ohio, I wish to ask someone else to get involved or at least be made aware of the situation. Thank you NeuGye (talk) 04:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The policy says "Legal threats should be reported to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or an administrator." Make sure you include a link to his diff and your diff that instigated the threat in your report assuming those are the right links. There is no need to copy the text of the threat into the noticeboard as the diff links should be sufficient. If you don't get a reasonable response, please come back here for help. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 05:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, cool. Now that you've made your report, continue to discuss any contentious changes with the other editors on the talk page to come to a consensus with all involved parties. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 06:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

How to include company information in an article

Dear Sir/Madam,

I created the article title “IAPsolutions (former DCI)” including company information and this was deleted. However, I have seen very similar articles (e.g. “Buongiorno”) in the Wikipedia, and I don’t really understand the difference between these two articles and why mine was deleted.

Could you please clarify this ?

Best regards --Qswi3021 (talk) 10:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for posting here. It looks like IAPsolutions (former DCI) was deleted twice, once for being advertising and once for making no assertion of notability. I can't see the deleted content, so I'm going to guess that it didn't make clear why the company is notable, and perhaps didn't have sufficient reliable sources. Please read the guidelines linked, if you haven't already, and then decide if the topic really is sufficiently notable to be included. If you think it is, then try to modify the content so that it meets the guidelines and then post it again. Feel free to leave another message here if you need help. --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Copying to Wiktionary

I've noticed that there are a number of articles in Wikipedia tagged as needing copying to Wiktionary (i.e. those in Category:Copy to Wiktionary. There seems to be a backlog, which is where I'm confused. I know there is a manual process to move articles (Help:Transwiki), but I thought the tag initiated some sort of automatic move, and didn't require further intervention (other than cleaning up/deleting the transwikied articles). Have I misunderstood the process, or is there a problem with the Wikipedia -> Wiktionary transwiki ? CultureDrone (talk) 11:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

That's what I thought as well. After all, the template says "automated". Template talk:Copy to Wiktionary seems to suggest that User:CopyToWiktionaryBot does this. It sure does look broken- no contributions from it since 6 May 2008. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 22:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Moshe Dovid Tendler

Moshe David Tendler (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have a long running feud with someone who is likely a Tendler student or family member. My opponent seeks to canonize him and continually deletes my request for sources (Which, had his claim regarding Tendler receiving ordination [smichah] from some of the great sages of the past generation been true, it would have been stated in an abundance of places.) Instead of posting a source, he deletes my request for a citation. He continually post the content of particular Tendler responsa was is not germane to the profile, and is in fact a commercial for hods.org which has no place in the biography. This person wishes to paint Dr. Tendler as the sucessor to his father in law and continually deletes this fact as well as my 2 references to Igros Moshe, where Reb Moshe forbids the translation of his responsa. I posted a link to a website, that link gets deleted as well. If you look in the history, you'll see that I have commented on the modus operandi of this editor who has a serious aversion to the truth. He cannot be banned because he signs on a single time, edits Tendler, than deletes his profile. I have documented all of my statements, all I want is the truth to be told. Wikipedia is not supposed to be science fiction.pikipiki (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

And neither is it supposed to provide you, or anyone else, with a soap box. If you want to call the subject of an article a liar, you're probably better off not editing the article at all. Also refrain from characterizing your opponent as seeking to canonize the article subject, and stop making tendentious speeches (such as this) on the article's talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 09:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I have edited User:Pikipiki's post above to remove unsourced contentious material per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Please read that policy before making any other statements about living people. As for the article, you might want to try a request for comment to get other editors involved who may have knowledge in the field. Or the talkpages of relevant Wikiprojects such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism.--BelovedFreak 12:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Sargasso

i am giving up on Wikipedia. I have tried to add articles that would be of interest to other users, but they are being deleted before I can even contest them on the talk pages. these are also being deleted.

No wonder Wikipedia is so innacurate - your 'administrators' are rubbish!!!

Sfcpres (talk) 14:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Sorry you feel that way. One way of addressing your concern would be to ask an admin to move the deleted content to your sandbox, at User:Sfcpres/sandbox and work on the page there. If you decide to do that, then please come back here and let us know; we can advise you on how to meet the standards at Wikipedia. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

NPOV thing

I don't really know how to do it, but this article reads like a love letter to the person the article is about. Sounds like the POV of one of his staffers or something. Just wanted to bring it to attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Yee —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.212.234 (talk) 20:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to our attention; I'll look into it, and I'm sure the others will too. In the future, you can place the {{POV_check}} template on any article (don't forget to discuss on the talk page!) and someone will check its neutrality. Fleetflame 01:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• NOTE: Leland Yee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Fleetflame 01:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Branded Concept Development

I am trying to post an article about my company Branded Concept Development, but the past three times I've tried its been deleted. I changed a bunch of the content to make it more Wikipedia friendly; however, now its been deleted again and I can't even make the page again. What should I do?

Smr47 (talk) 23:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Spencer

• NOTE: See Deletion Log. Fleetflame 01:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, it looks like the article was deleted several times because various editors believed it was being used to advertise your company. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and not an advertising service. Articles need references to independent third party reliable sources. The article also needs to show how its subject is notable. I would recommend you have a good read around Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines. HOWEVER, because you are trying to write an article about your company, you have a clear conflict of interest. Editors are strongly discouraged from creating articles about themselves, their companies or things they are personally involved in. You should wait for someone else to decide that the company is notable enough to need an article. Why don't you look around Wikipedia and edit some other articles about things that interest you? --BelovedFreak 09:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Articles "Miss Pakistan World" and Sonia Ahmed

Dear Editor,

In the past two months there has been a deletion of two articles: "Miss Pakistan World" and Sonia Ahmed Both articles were written well and with nuetraliuty but some USERS kept on refering to controversies which were not a major part of the event.

Can you please do something about these two articles.

Thanks --Sonisona (talk) 08:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

If you think that deletion was improper, you can appeal it at Wikipedia:Deletion review. -- Hoary (talk) 09:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

adding external links

Hello, I am looking for 2 wiki-answers. Yesterday i added some expertises or studies by religious scholars in PDF to a wiki-article on Dianetics, but today they weren't there anymore. Could you explain this to me?

What can i do sothat they stay?

Thx, Taodeptus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taodeptus (talk • contribs) 17:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you and another editor or editors have differing opinions on this. It appears that you made some changes, the other(s) made further changes, and now you seem to have reinstated some of your earlier changes. There might be more history to it, but that seems to be the recent history. It would be better to bring this up at Talk:Dianetics and reach consensus there before making changes to the article. That usually results in an enduring improvement and avoids edit wars. Please consider that this can be a contentious topic, and that your relatively narrow editing focus will imply to some editors that you have a particular agenda. I don't suggest that you do have an agenda, only that you should tread cautiously. Happy editing, --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Posting dispute

Wikipedia - You are incorrect. You claim to uphold a neutral point of view, yet you outright celebrate and promote the artists of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride attraction, and you then celebrate and promote the Pirates of the Caribbean movie, but you refuse to follow through with the artist Royce Mathew and his lawsuit in regards to the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. A lawsuit against the Walt Disney Company was filed in United States Federal Court and it was in regards to Pirates of the Caribbean movie. This story was feature all over the world. GOOGLE it. Royce Mathew is also listed on IMDB.com website, which IMDB is listed on Wikipedia itself. The story of the lawsuit is important news and is factual. You call the additional history/facts posting to the Pirates of the Caribbean listing as "vandalism", which is completely wrong on Wikipedia part. To be neutral and present the facts surrounding Pirates of the Caribbean movie and such, you must include this important matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneysuit (talk • contribs) 19:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability, a wikipedia policy that all articles must follow. The website www.disneylawsuit.com does not meet our standards for a reliable source, which is why your edits have been reverted. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 19:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

After less than 24 hours of edits, Disneysuit (talk · contribs) has been blocked indefinitely for disruption and threats. See this section at WP:ANI for more details. —Whoville (talk) 01:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

You Should Go Ahead

I created a stub for this music artist several months ago and added two clear references to show verifiability. The current edit does not follow wiki guidelines (references were deleted, there is no internal linking, and material added is not attributed). Not exactly a sockpuppet edit, and unfortunately the edit was made by an anonymous user, but I am concerned that someone with a vested interest in the band may have edited the page. What's best to do in this case? Altlusa (talk) 20:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I believe you're referring to this edit. This is a clear copyright violation of their myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/ysga). I undid that copyright violation and added a warning to their user talk page. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 20:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Misquoting

Someone has put in a couple of references, changing slightly the name of the page being linked to. It's not really a big problem where it appears (and I can tell you where this is), but my question is general. Is there a rule on Wikipedia about not changing a direct quote or the title of a linked article? One might say there shouldn't be a need for such a rule, but it would be good to be able to point to it, if it exists. Thank you. (I'll watch this page.) --Hordaland (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Could you clarify please what you're identifying? It seems that you're describing something more subtle than vandalism, but I'm not sure I understand. Thanks! --AndrewHowse (talk) 22:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

OK. I wouldn't even call it vandalism, just a user who would prefer that the rest of the world should use terminology approved by him/her.

See: MOSMED, Talk page, discussion at allopathic. See also, if desired, more discussion on the Talk page of Comparison of MD and DO in the United States.

We figure that there must have been formulated a rule about this kind of thing?

(I'm now going to be "away from the computer" for some hours. Isn't that how one says one is going to bed? It's well past midnight here. G'nite.) --Hordaland (talk) 22:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Mel Gussow article - apparent family edits, now real-estate promotion

Could someone please take a look at Mel Gussow and Talk:Mel Gussow. This article about a journalist who died three years ago has a history going back to at least 5 September 2007 of what I would call a slow-motion edit war between apparent family members who each have a favorite version of Mom's maiden name, Grandma and Grandpa's first name, Dad's middle name, Dad's religion and an opinion on whether or not a brother or an earlier marriage should be mentioned; and don't mind reverting away several months of legitimate edits to get it.

More recently, in assaying a general restoration and cleanup, I removed a real-estate company link that gave the family's street address in NYC when the subject died, calling it not relevant. Now editor User:66.108.95.8 has four times added the link back in, along with another link to a second real estate company, both supporting a new (and freshly invented, as far as I can tell) claim that Gussow owned and operated a real-estate agency as well as writing for the New York Times. I have reverted three of these and warned the editor on his talk page with {{welcomespam}}, a personalized message, and most recently {{uw-spam3}}. I am now out of reverts and would appreciate someone else taking a look at this. Thanks. --CliffC (talk) 05:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The First Sex

A colleague of mine recently asked me to help lend my expertise in archaeology and anthropology to the Wiki article The Firt Sex, about the book "The First Sex."

I went to the article and tried to add several referenced statements, bib. references, and a picture.

Much of what I wrote was deleted, often with no explanation. At least one accurate statement was repeatedly changed into a grossly, laughably inaccurate statement (I'd say I tried to change this statement back to its accurate form at least half a dozen times).

Although my picture was clearly related to the content of the article, it was deleted again and again. And even though a note at the beginning of the article said the article needed a picture, those who deleted my picture did not replace it with anything. (Today I notice that note is gone -- along with the note saying the article is in dispute)

My bibliographic references -- most of them from university presses, or other highly respected publishing companies -- were deleted again and again.

A direct quote about the book, by a well-known and well-thought-of author, was deleted with no explanation -- again several times.

Frankly, the entire experience was a nightmare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Athana (talk • contribs) 11:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Darwin Frank

Please see Darwin Frank. The history of this article is confusing and looks like a lot of nonsense, but I'm not sure how to get it deleted, if that's what should happen.