User talk:Vanished user lt94ma34le12

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This is NOT a pro-"Palestinian" or pro-"Israeli" issue this is a mater of a genocide of a people. I'm NOT even going to bother there is a clear and obvious propaganda campaign by the editors: Oncenawhile, Malik Shabazz, and Zero to cover up these historical massacres that can be consolidated as a genocide of the Old Yishuv shame on those editors and shame on you for your support/complicity. If those massacres should not be mentioned in the "Palestinian" article then the Holocaust should be removed from the German people article. Really shame on you. You're no different then the Iranians that deny the Holocaust or the Turks that deny the Armenian genocide. DionysosElysees (talk) 13:24, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

It is a pleasure to work with the co-editors you mentioned, Oncenawhile, Zero, and especially Malik Shabazz, and it is quite satisfying that this feeling is not unrequited. Do refrain from aspersing their good characters, and limit your criticism to myself.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 12:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Again

Hi Ankh, just to say I have no hard feelings about the AE, and hope we can move on collaboratively together.

Could you satisfy my curiosity and let me know whether you've edited wikipedia before your account was opened in January? According to this and this, you've made 1,800 edits in 3 months vs my 2,700 edits in 2 years, but you know seem to understand the dispute procedures of wikipedia much better than I do! Oncenawhile (talk) 21:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I have been impressed by the way you have handled this matter, and I acknowledge that I may have filed my expeditious report prematurely. (I was frustrated at the sudden regression to a previous version, which seemed to disregard our talk page discussions) As you have previously stated, we did appear to share a constructive working relationship, and I hope to collaborate with you in the future. Perhaps you are less privy to the dispute procedures because of your usual agreeable editorial style!
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 22:11, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks Ankh. I should also say that I respect your discworld-inspired choice of name.

Yours still curiously, Oncenawhile (talk) 22:35, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

The Discworld novels are an excellent foil to the weighty tomes I am periodically forced to peruse, and I esteem them so highly that I have decided to captitalise their title with a Capital 'D'. I can go on and on and extol their virtues, but I fear the credible risk of soapboxing on my talkpage.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 12:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Following me around?

How do you explain this revert? You don't seem to have edited this article and all of a sudden you come and revert me. You don't even leave a message on the talk page.VR _talk 23:35, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

This article relates to Antisemitism, Zionism and radical Islam, a heady concoction that I am incorrigibly attracted to. I am editing this article in spite of your lugubrious presence, not because of it, and re-encountering your customary truculence will not dampen my editorial ardor. I fiercely contest your megalomaniacal ravings that I am tracking your activity and request you refrain from maculating my talk page with gratuitous hostile messages.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 00:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand Wikipedia:Disruptive user, if you think that the above message makes me one. And did you just make three personal attacks against me in one post: "your lugubrious presence", "your customary truculence", "your megalomaniacal ravings" ? Given your previous violations of WP:NPA, might I suggest politeness?VR _talk 04:59, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Another user seems to also be concerned about you showing up at articles you've never edited before and reverting someone whom you're known to have disputes with.VR _talk 05:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Since you mention my familiar interlocutor, Mr Dlv999, allow me to reminisce about our first trilateral encounter. It occurred at Talk:2012 Midi-Pyrénées shootings, when my good friend decided to pop by and share his sagacious views, unfortunately at odds with my own. This unsolicited visit prompted an uninvolved editor to leave these remarks. It appears that Dlv999 and I both share the habit of turning up at each others doorstep uninvited, (an illusion no doubt, due to shared interest) much to the surprise of the other, and chuntering about our "content disagreements". With regards to yourself, our interests tangentially overlap, and in the few instances when they manifestly do, I would assume good faith instead of deciding upon Wikihounding.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 09:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Ankh, you can use all the flowery language that you want but the fact remains, turning up in an article that you have not edited before and reverting an editor with whom you have a history of disagreement, without any attempt to engage with the ongoing talk page discussion or even an edit summary is problematic editing. You should just acknowledge it and take it into account in your future behavior. On a more general note, I don't have any problem with you reviewing my edit history, but if you are going to contribute to an article you should do it in the proper manner. Dlv999 (talk) 09:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Aha! Speak of the devil! Let me switch on the kettle and see if I can rustle up some comestibles, while we engage in jovial nattering, and disapprove of each others editing habits. I am certain this will prove to be a most cathartic experience and I suggest we similarly reconvene at a future date. I assure you that my editorial lapses that exasperate you so, are highly atypical and I hope you consider the kind words that my companions have said about me.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 09:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Jocular forms of address

Greetings, AnkhMorpork. You've referred to me as "Babe", "Hun", and "M'dear" on the Zeitoun talk page. I don't doubt that you mean that in a pleasantly jocular, bantering way, but taken together with your userbox disclosing your feelings for Nishidani, it's kind of creeping me out, to be perfectly direct. I'm a man, and am probably around the age of your parents, so show greater respect for your elders, young 'un. ;-) I hope you won't object: I've removed all such pleasantries from the page, as I'd rather other users not come to an erroneous conclusion as to my gender, or as to the nature of our relationship, either. I'll get back to dicussion with you there in a day or two, btw. Cheers,  – OhioStandard (talk) 09:36, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Well if you wanna play hard to get, that's fine with me.Ankh.Morpork 09:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

See, now, this last comment might very well seem funny to me if we knew each other, and it were said in person, so tone of voice and facial expression could be used to communicate which of many possible meanings you intended. I did see your post to my talk, and I usually appreciate humour that's intentionally outrageous, but there's not enough history or context between us for me to be able to interpret comments like this unambiguously. I'm wondering, for example, if you might prefer male company for your intimate encounters. I'm not asking, and it would be perfectly fine if you do, of course, although that would be at odds with my own choice: There's the ambiguity, you see. As it is, I'm inclined to reply, "Don't be familiar. We haven't kept pigs together."

Since we seem to be getting to know one another, though, you can find an example of the sort of humour I favour, by clicking on the final "really bad turnover accident" link in this thread about an autobiography of some wild child who bounced around the "metal" music scene in Los Angeles as a band groupie, I gather. I also like most anything by Monty Python; most of the I/P articles' talk pages remind me of this sketch, for example.

That said, I've been meaning to suggest Erich Fromm's book, The Fear of Freedom to you; I think you'd enjoy it. I read it when I was your age, exactly, and it was like lightning from a clear sky to me; I ended up reading most of Fromm's other books, as well. It's about the individual's choices when confronted with authoritarian environments, and it's presented in the context of the rise of Nazi power in Germany. If you're interested in the effects of authoritarianism on individuals' freedom of thought and action, there's also an utterly fascinating book called, Are We All Nazis? that deals with the same subject against the backdrop of the famous Milgram experiments.

Both books are very relevant to Zeitoun, imo, and to any situation in which people act in ways they'd otherwise abhor, except for orders from above. I wonder whether you've heard of the My Lai Massacre that took place during American's war with North Vietnam? It was in the news for months, and just shocked everyone extremely, when I was a young kid. We all thought at the time that it was an isolated incident, an aberration. It wasn't though. Years later, it was disclosed that the U.S. government could have investigated dozens or even hundreds of other very similar incidents, but they squelched the inquiry. In retrospect, and based on what I've read in the intervening years, I've come to the view that such behaviour by armies is almost unexceptional, that it occurs much more often than is contemporaneously disclosed. Cheers,  – OhioStandard (talk) 11:36, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Your suggested reading material seems very appropriate; I am fascinated by social psychological experiments and analysis and I have previously ruminated upon the findings of the Stanford prison experiment, Milgram experiment and the disturbing Bystander effect which was cited in regard to the case of Ilan Halimi which profoundly affected me at the time (and probably still does). I have edited several highly emotive topics and perhaps this affected gaiety (e.t.p) is my method of detachment. I shall moderate my communications with you to a more bland and less excitable tone pursuant to your very reasonable and composed response.Ankh.Morpork 12:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, we all need some way to keep the obscenity at arm's length. I remember reading that gallows humour has a measurable physiological benefit, for example, that it boosts the immune system's T-cell counts and lowers stress hormone levels, although only for the person who perpetrates it, interestingly.

Glad to hear you're already well read in the area, though, but do give The Fear of Freedom a try when you're able. As an interesting side-note, it presents one of the clearest explanations I'm aware of for the puzzling draw that S&M evidently has for so many people, or of one important aspect of that draw, rather. Fromm explains Hitler's appeal as a kind of masochism, and that explanation seems to me to apply to the word in its usual sense in the vernacular, as well.

I remember the Ilan Halimi case; the angels must weep at the things our species is capable of. If I were the Deity, I'd think hard about reaching for that "deluge" lever again, whatever colourful tokens I'd left in the sky after the last time I'd used it. I've posted a reply for you here, btw. --OhioStandard (talk) 02:51, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Rochdale

Apologies, almost advised you into revert war territory. I'm sure we can redraft a suitable inclusion on the talk page. Keristrasza (talk) 22:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

The redraft has already been proposed twice...it is difficult to know which problems I am seeking to obviate when none have been clearly articulated.Ankh.Morpork 22:05, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Nang Award

DBigXray has given you a LOLipop! This horrible pun and delicious candy promotes WikiLove and tells the world how low you will stoop for the sake of humor. Spread WikiLove by giving someone else a lollipop, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

For the Nang Sock award, couldn't stop LOLing at that, how did you spot the image for this ? . -- ÐℬigXЯaɣ 16:41, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Spread the unrelenting joy of lollipops by adding {{subst:Lollipop}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!

Thank you for my first award. As to the image, I like personalizing awards, user boxes etc and thought that picture was very suitable!Ankh.Morpork 16:46, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Cool, the creativity in that image selection was awesome. keep it up, regards-- ÐℬigXЯaɣ 16:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "British Pakistanis". Thank you. -- altetendekrabbe  18:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Needy Holocaust survivors—disgraceful

Israel: Here's the nasty little country's treatment of its Holocaust survivors:

"I want the Germans to know where the money they gave Israel went," he said angrily. "I want the Germans to know that Israel took the money we should have received. I want them to answer one question: Where did our money go?"
http://www.haaretz.com/news/survivors-protest-makes-foreign-journalists-gasp-security-vanish-1.226913

Where did it go? Do you even care?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-state-funding-of-holocaust-victims-foundation-drops-for-third-year-1.424483
http://www.timesofisrael.com/survivors-stipends-slashed-before-holocaust-remembrance-day/
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I can only hypothesise where the money went. Perhaps it went to building the Yad Vashem facility to educate people like Mahmoud Abbas that the holocaust actually happened. Perhaps it went to ensuring that there such an existential threat will never reoccur, and was used as part of their defense program. Maybe it helped fund the cost of regular elections that are a cornerstone in any democratic country. But I'll stop speculating because I'm sure the country's free press will be better suited in tackling this issue and identifying other failings in Israel, so that accountabilty and improvement can take place.Ankh.Morpork 02:15, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Free press! That's what I said! Luke 19 Verse 27 (talk) 07:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Good job!

Thanks for your contribution to ward against vandalism in Jessica Sanchez article as you did with this edit. I look forward to working with you. - SyncSeth (talk) 03:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Iloveandrea

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Congratulations, from STiki!

	The Anti-Vandalism + STiki Barnstar
	Congratulations, AnkhMorpork! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contribution to Wikipedia at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and Orphan Wiki (talk) 09:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I also celebrate your use of the tool. Luke 19 Verse 27 (talk) 23:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Its a pity it doesn't have a 'tool' removal function too.Ankh.Morpork 23:13, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I reconsidered your comment and the person writing it, and I now realise its sexual connotations. Seeing as I have an immature sense of humour, I find that comment mildy amusing. Note that it thanks for my contributions "at-large".Ankh.Morpork 23:36, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I've been accused of vandalism before, but I would never do such a thing. I'm just trying to spread love. If by sex, you mean love, then yes there is a sex connatation to that tool comment. It is a love-tool, right? Luke 19 Verse 27 (talk) 00:19, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep going

I see the filth is out in force today at the Paki article them pedos are desperate to hide the fact that there culture is all about raping be strong brother Europe is awakening to this Islamic filth and we shall rid it with fire!