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::That's clear signs of disruptiveness and screams our canvassing on all levels. The user has said that they had no intentions to have the article deleted, and yet they nominated it - contradictory or what? The AFD was a clear snowball consensus to keep, and despite that, the user appears to be unable to drop the stick and get on with editing articles. They probably won't cease until they finally get the article deleted. Although saying that, as long as people remember what was noted at the AFD, then the user is just pursuing a losing argument. [[User:Wesley Mouse|<font color="DarkSlateBlue" face="Tahoma">'''Wesley'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Wesley_Mouse|<font color="OrangeRed">☀</font>]][[User talk:Wesley Mouse|<font color="SaddleBrown" face="Tahoma">'''''Mouse'''''</font>]] 14:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
::That's clear signs of disruptiveness and screams our canvassing on all levels. The user has said that they had no intentions to have the article deleted, and yet they nominated it - contradictory or what? The AFD was a clear snowball consensus to keep, and despite that, the user appears to be unable to drop the stick and get on with editing articles. They probably won't cease until they finally get the article deleted. Although saying that, as long as people remember what was noted at the AFD, then the user is just pursuing a losing argument. [[User:Wesley Mouse|<font color="DarkSlateBlue" face="Tahoma">'''Wesley'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Wesley_Mouse|<font color="OrangeRed">☀</font>]][[User talk:Wesley Mouse|<font color="SaddleBrown" face="Tahoma">'''''Mouse'''''</font>]] 14:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes the user seems unwilling to move on and just respect the Keep consensus. Instead trying the "back door" for it to be deleted. Yes Wesley there is no chance of it to be deleted, clear community consensus for Keep and WP:MUSIC backs the article up. Yes if the disruptiveness continues we should report it. But let's hope the user sees reason and moves on ASAP.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 14:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes the user seems unwilling to move on and just respect the Keep consensus. Instead trying the "back door" for it to be deleted. Yes Wesley there is no chance of it to be deleted, clear community consensus for Keep and WP:MUSIC backs the article up. Yes if the disruptiveness continues we should report it. But let's hope the user sees reason and moves on ASAP.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 14:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Perhaps you could leave a message on the users talk page explaining the situation in a honest way. So the user realizes that canvassing and disruptive behaviour only lead's to blocking in the end.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 14:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Revision as of 14:35, 10 June 2012

User:Wesley Mouse/Offline

Any idea as to why my signature is messing up?

I followed a tutorial to edit it.

The 'Cathair' should be bold and Dark Green - linking to User Page, and the 'awr' non-bold and ForestGreen - linking to Talk page, and the cross should be Red and bold leading to my contributions. I presume I have coded all correctly in HTML. It just will not change colour. Thanks.

Cathairawr 19:56, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) HTML isn't international friendly: ya gotta use "color", not "colour".  ;) Writ Keeper 20:08, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Writ for dealing with this on. Much appreciated. WesleyMouse 10:48, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I award Wesley Mouse this barnstar for continuing to make fine contributions to Wikipedia despite having to deal with personal difficulties and then being put on trial by other users in twenty-four hours of hell. Wesley, your work is still greatly appreciated, so keep it up! CT Cooper · talk 19:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I'm not overloading you with awards, but I thought your recent contributions combined with your recent difficulties deserved a barnstar in itself. I have to say I was happy and somewhat relieved that you just got-up and carried on after your recent block. CT Cooper · talk 19:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh thank you ever so much, keep the awards coming. One can never receive too many awards; they are a good moral booster. WesleyMouse 13:29, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

General Eurovision Chat

Hey, just thought of asking around for theories as to why Ireland and the United Kingdom done so well pre-21st-century, and have suddenly went downhill, any ideas?

Cathairawr 14:34, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, I'll have to be cautious here, just in case anyone notices that a forum discussion is taking place here, as it is frowned upon due to some guidance at WP:NOTFORUM. In answer to your question though, I don't think there are any suspicious theories really. Ireland did well in 2011 (8th place) and the UK has done well too 5th (2009) and 11th (2011). This year was unfortunate for the UK in all honesty, a weak ballad performing first, which then got itself lost with the 25 powerful and memorable songs which followed it. Look at Hungary this year. Their song was well linked across Europe, but due to an early running order it too got lost in the plethora of entries which followed. Sweden was an obvious winner from the start, and I even predicted it would win from the moment it won Melodifestivalen earlier in the year. WesleyMouse 14:55, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input, and thanks a lot for that page, had no idea there was such page stating what Wikipedia was and was not. Yeah, I suppose you are right, Euphoria was an excellent performance.

Cathairawr 16:40, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Permission for User page

Hello, now I am somewhat beginning to be active on Wikipedia, I am trying to create a user page. I understand basic Wikipedia coding, however when it comes to HTML on User pages, I'm basically blind as a bat - I know the odd Colour changing and Bold type of techniques. Anyway down to main point. Would it be okay, if I copied a bit of your code (your navigator containing Olympic countdowns)? I am able to spot where to change things in a code, as in what to replace etc. However, to create a code, I have no idea whatsoever. Cathairawr 17:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By all means, yes. Although you will need to delete the part about being a volunteer at the Olympic Games, which is there as I shall be at working at the games this summer. WesleyMouse 17:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for giving me permission to copy part of your user page! :) Cathairawr 17:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

June 2012

Before removing a category from an article, as you did to Template:Eurovision Song Contest 2012, please make sure that the subject of the article no longer belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories should only be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. WesleyMouse 14:57, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly sorry for my English. This is wrong

You look:

Languages

Türkçe:(Template)
Հայերեն:(Template)
Français:Article
Кыргызча:Article

‪:Norsk‬:Article

Português:Article
Русский:Article
Suomi:Article
Svenska:Article
Türkçe:Article
Українська:Article
All eurovision 2012 songs pages have same wrong.
Esc2003 (talk) 15:11, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You may think it is wrong, but a WikiBot added the categories in the first place. If a bot added them, then they would be correct. These bots add new categories over a period of time, and when instructed by the project of the relevant language projects. So in time, each of the languages will add their category to the template too. No need to rush, patience is a virtue. WesleyMouse 15:15, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The English language version of the template Template:Eurovision Song Contest 2012 has been adapted into 2 other languages (tr:Şablon:2012 Eurovision Şarkı Yarışması şarkıları and hy:Կաղապար:Եվրատեսիլ 2012 երգի մրցույթ) and incorporated onto those respective Wiki projects. The language translation has nothing to do with articles. WesleyMouse 15:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Protection requests

Your ESC 2013 protection request has been answered with one month of semi-protection. That may do for now, since we are still experiencing the wave of activity following the 2012 Contest and things may yet calm down a little. I dealt with your earlier JESC 2012 protection request as I haven't edited that article much at all, and I feared nobody would answer it. I thought protection to December was overkill at this point, but I gave a month. CT Cooper · talk 04:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 1 month for JESC might be logical after what I've found on the internet. Seems the deadline has been extended to 29 June, as the EBU are 4-short of the 11-minimum requirement for the contest to take place. A decision whether to cancel the contest will be made on that June date. Malta and Cyprus are definite no-no; Italy and San Marino are no debuts; Serbia and Romania have announced they won't return; and Lithuania/Moldova haven't made their minds up either way yet. But the only sources that mention all this is Eurovoix.com and Janelaesc.com; both of which appeared in that list the EBU published months ago. WesleyMouse 04:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I'm not hugely into the Junior Contest, but it will be a real shame if it goes the same was as the Eurovision Dance Contest. I hope the EBU find enough participants. CT Cooper · talk 04:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 04 June 2012

Project Eurovision RFC discussion reminder

WikiProject Eurovision: This is a reminder to all members of Project Eurovision, that there is still an ongoing RfC discussion taking place at the project talk page. It is vital that everyone participates in this discussion, as it concerns the future manual of style and article layout in regards to Eurovision Song Contest by Year and Junior Eurovision Song Contest by Year articles. This is your ideal opportunity to contribute suggestions and ideas on a major issue, which will reflect on the way these articles will be written in future. Thank You! EdwardsBot (talk) 14:14, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eldar and Nigar PROD

I think you have misunderstood my intention with that post. I fully agree with you that both their individual articles and the duo article should be kept. But in my opinion if the user still think that either the separate articles or the duo articles should be up for AfD, then I think its more logical to nominate the separate articles. Even though I believe that both the articles would be kept and so would the duo-article. So I am in no way in favour of deletion otherwise I would not have removed the PROD.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:28, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments at RfC

I have commented, you did a good job standardizing WP:ESC's articles, it was about time! Cheers. Kosm1fent 19:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fanx, I do like to try my best, even if I do doubt myself at times. Comments like that emphasis that I am doing something for the better. WesleyMouse 19:25, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
for successful defence of Ell&Nikki Zymurgy (talk) 09:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you ever so gladly. This sure did come as quite a surprise. I only did what I felt needed to be done, and that was to save an article from being deleted. Its just a shame the nominee couldn't comprehend the number of people who wanted to save the article, and still attempted to canvass different rules to try and get people to change their votes. WesleyMouse 10:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one for you to ponder over

Hi, yes I appreciate that. Yes perhaps a mention that Esctoday.com has made it clear that no new countries are likely to enter the contest any time soon because of membership issues or being outside the EBU Area. Perhaps stating that repeated inclusions of countries such as Kazakhstan, Kosovo and Qatar in the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 article without proper sources of EBU membership could be seen as vandalism. Just a suggestion.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion concerning Ell & Nikki are ongoing here, Wikipedia talk:Notability (music). Also I have made a request that the Ell & Nikki article is fully protected until consensus has been reached. --BabbaQ (talk) 14:16, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's clear signs of disruptiveness and screams our canvassing on all levels. The user has said that they had no intentions to have the article deleted, and yet they nominated it - contradictory or what? The AFD was a clear snowball consensus to keep, and despite that, the user appears to be unable to drop the stick and get on with editing articles. They probably won't cease until they finally get the article deleted. Although saying that, as long as people remember what was noted at the AFD, then the user is just pursuing a losing argument. WesleyMouse 14:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes the user seems unwilling to move on and just respect the Keep consensus. Instead trying the "back door" for it to be deleted. Yes Wesley there is no chance of it to be deleted, clear community consensus for Keep and WP:MUSIC backs the article up. Yes if the disruptiveness continues we should report it. But let's hope the user sees reason and moves on ASAP.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you could leave a message on the users talk page explaining the situation in a honest way. So the user realizes that canvassing and disruptive behaviour only lead's to blocking in the end.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]