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:Hello {{ping|Arapaima|p=,}} the article was created on WP-en on 14 October 2011 by [[User:Gautier lebon|Gautier lebon]][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meermin_slave_mutiny&oldid=455508814] – so, a little while after you were working on the French version! Maybe no coincidence... My first edit was on 28 January 2012.[https://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=Meermin_slave_mutiny] I have my own high-resolution JPEG copy of the 1760 plan for the ''Meermin'', as used by Jaco Boshoff, and it is described as a ''hoeker'' there. The sources used in the English article are also quite clear that the ''Meermin'' was a ''hoeker'',[http://www.vocsite.nl/schepen/detail.html?id=10670][http://www.earthexplorer.com/2009-11/Hunting_for_a_lost_ship.asp] with no mention that I can recall of a [[fluyt]]; and the Dutch article says it was a ''hoeker'' too.[https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meermin_(schip)] My French is very rusty, but I'll try to have a look at the French article... Cheers. [[User:Nortonius|Nortonius]] ([[User talk:Nortonius#top|talk]]) 12:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC) |
:Hello {{ping|Arapaima|p=,}} the article was created on WP-en on 14 October 2011 by [[User:Gautier lebon|Gautier lebon]][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meermin_slave_mutiny&oldid=455508814] – so, a little while after you were working on the French version! Maybe no coincidence... My first edit was on 28 January 2012.[https://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=Meermin_slave_mutiny] I have my own high-resolution JPEG copy of the 1760 plan for the ''Meermin'', as used by Jaco Boshoff, and it is described as a ''hoeker'' there. The sources used in the English article are also quite clear that the ''Meermin'' was a ''hoeker'',[http://www.vocsite.nl/schepen/detail.html?id=10670][http://www.earthexplorer.com/2009-11/Hunting_for_a_lost_ship.asp] with no mention that I can recall of a [[fluyt]]; and the Dutch article says it was a ''hoeker'' too.[https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meermin_(schip)] My French is very rusty, but I'll try to have a look at the French article... Cheers. [[User:Nortonius|Nortonius]] ([[User talk:Nortonius#top|talk]]) 12:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC) |
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::Indeed I started the article, but it has been much improved subsequently. I looked at the French version and it looks OK to me.--[[User:Gautier lebon|Gautier lebon]] ([[User talk:Gautier lebon|talk]]) 15:58, 18 February 2014 (UTC) |
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Lol…
Here A*****jm says "I am the professional writer of material on heritage subjects." Here they say that they "don't have access to a history library with up to date information." What's that I smell…? Nortonius (talk) 18:21, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
History of England
I am not sure what is going on here, but I've given this editor a 3RR warning and explained to him/her a few of the problems they've introduced. I've also suggested that as they don't seem to know about the subject they should edit something else. Thanks for your reverting that edit. Why they deleted sourced material and changed material that was sourced claiming it wasn't I'm not sure. They also comment about an agenda, whatever that is meant to mean. Dougweller (talk) 12:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update. They look like trouble to me: they've been "given clearance", and "you are instructed not to think the worst in others"! Oh dear... When someone who doesn't seem to know what they're talking about starts speaking of "agendas", I assume psychological projection: when I first saw that editor's edits, I suspected a creationist agenda – but then I do have some idea of what I'm talking about, I've got a certificate from one of those university thingies to prove it! ;) Who knows, though. Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 13:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Possible sock. Thanks for opening up the discussion at the talk page. Dougweller (talk) 13:39, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. Yes, I wondered about a sock, as they came from nowhere to edit that article – and communicate – aggressively. Nortonius (talk) 13:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- The human prehistory of England only began 5,000 years ago, we proved his point. I had been thinking about posting this there, but you're quite right about not feeding the trolls, @Dougweller. Nortonius (talk) 01:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hopefully bored and gone now. Dougweller (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, we can dare to hope! Nortonius (talk) 17:42, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Precious
unhate
Thank you, editor who tries to do the right thing (like beware of tigers) on scientific background, for quality articles such as All Saints' Church, Shuart, for knowing the quality of people, for a clear user page then and now, - you are an awesome Wikipedian, keep working to unhate!
Thank you Gerda, that's much appreciated. Nortonius (talk) 22:06, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for making me smile when digging a bit! Did you know that I wrote Sorrow recently, because of the pictured case? That was resolved, now we have the other. Click on "This" to match your user page "then" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, yes it's funny what you can find if you start digging! No I did not know that, nor do I remember seeing that picture before. I went to the van Gogh museum in Amsterdam in 1997, it was a very emotional experience. Looking at my user page "then", it seems nothing much has changed. Nortonius (talk) 22:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Right, "unhate" is slow, but worth trying. I received "this" "then" and keep it, did you know? I actually had Sorrow imported to German on a day remembering it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- There are many things I didn't know! And many more I shall probably never know. I did once receive an award for unhate.[1] But what I write is often just the kinder version of what I'm thinking. I think I've become a wikignome too, though I still have sporadic outbreaks of editing madness.[2] I don't think I'm interested in promoting a FA any more, but boredom makes me ponder a couple of GAs. Nortonius (talk) 15:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC) ps Thanks for making me look at All Saints' Church, Shuart again.[3]
Meermin article : who was the first ?
Hello Nortonius ! Browsing through the today's "On this day" rubric of WP en 1st page reminded me I had edited "Meermin", the french version of Meermin slave mutiny between 20 & 30 of september 2011, & had mumbled at that time : "How queer, the Brits haven't written anything in WP en about that ship...I'll have to do with that dutch article and the documentary I just watched on TV Arte, instead of quietly translating a WP en good article...". As I don't know how to look back in the "History" farther than the last 500 edits, you'd be very kind to point me who was the 1st editor (you, maybe, as for Meermin (VOC ship) ? ), & when he (or she ?) launched it. Maybe too you've cast a glance on the french article, so you can tell me what are the grossest among the blunders it certainly contains ?...I had asked a question ("fluitschip or hoeker ?") on the dutch talk page (the sources I got then said "fluitship"). Thanks a lot beforehand, t.y. I notice the blue gem Gerda has just kindly presented you with really looks like the Hope (ex Regent)...Wouldn't it be safer for you to pass it to some museum ? ;-) Arapaima (talk) 09:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello @Arapaima, the article was created on WP-en on 14 October 2011 by Gautier lebon[4] – so, a little while after you were working on the French version! Maybe no coincidence... My first edit was on 28 January 2012.[5] I have my own high-resolution JPEG copy of the 1760 plan for the Meermin, as used by Jaco Boshoff, and it is described as a hoeker there. The sources used in the English article are also quite clear that the Meermin was a hoeker,[6][7] with no mention that I can recall of a fluyt; and the Dutch article says it was a hoeker too.[8] My French is very rusty, but I'll try to have a look at the French article... Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed I started the article, but it has been much improved subsequently. I looked at the French version and it looks OK to me.--Gautier lebon (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2014 (UTC)