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*If further evidence of Auslondonder's ineptitude is needed, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/White_Cross_Army this]. I'm not well enough to keep much of an eye on things at the moment but some people certainly should because F&W completely misread what was going on above and elsewhere. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush#top|talk]]) 04:44, 18 November 2015 (UTC) |
*If further evidence of Auslondonder's ineptitude is needed, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/White_Cross_Army this]. I'm not well enough to keep much of an eye on things at the moment but some people certainly should because F&W completely misread what was going on above and elsewhere. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush#top|talk]]) 04:44, 18 November 2015 (UTC) |
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:*Wow indeed. I'm rather surprised [[User:Ritchie333|Ritchie333]], who closed the AfD as snow keep and mentioned [[WP:NPA]], didn't even warn AusLondonder for his deplorable input there. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 09:09, 18 November 2015 (UTC). |
:*Wow indeed. I'm rather surprised [[User:Ritchie333|Ritchie333]], who closed the AfD as snow keep and mentioned [[WP:NPA]], didn't even warn AusLondonder for his deplorable input there. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 09:09, 18 November 2015 (UTC). |
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::*From my experience, if you make any personal comment when closing an AfD, it comes back to haunt you and leads to [[WP:NPA2|everyone pointing their finger at each other]]. Anyway, Sitush is a good editor with numerous wads of featured content under his belt and service beyond the call of duty in dealing with notorious Indian sockfarms, so an unblock sounds good to me. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 09:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC) |
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From what I can tell, this one might be somewhat in your ballpark,maybe more yours than mine. The group is also called the "Dalit Sikhs," apparently, because most or all of the membership seems to maybe arise from the chamar caste. I am going to try to gather together such information as I can find relating to it later this week, but I would definitely welcome any input from someone who knows something about caste issues. John Carter (talk) 01:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
When it is time to go
When ArbCom cuts huge chunks of evidence, hats reasonable dissent, abandons some well-established procedures without public discussion, and fails to add obvious people to the case list (Jimbo, EvergreenFir, Kevin Gorman, Gamaliel etc) then things are bad. When it is also apparent that the WMF-hosted GG-l mailing list and presumably its private offshoots are attempting to organise en bloc voting in the forthcoming ArbCom elections, and when Wales and his arselicking acolytes are totally incapable of respecting common courtesies such as right to reply at the Alternate Village Pump. And when The Signpost becomes little more than an organ for the social engineering hippy bollocks that is Friendly Space ...
Well, it is probably time to go. - Sitush (talk) 13:24, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- ...Which is exactly what they want so, no. Courage mon brave! don't let them drive you away. Richerman (talk) 13:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- We've been there before Sitush [1]. --regentspark (comment) 13:43, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. I honestly appreciate all you've done. — Ched : ? 05:15, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Arb Enforcement 2 is as bad as any case I have seen. The evidence sections seem to be dominated by opinions, save maybe four sections with diffs...but even those are laced with embedded critique. I think we all know what the outcome will be.--MONGO 07:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Banning policy amendment request
The request for amendment of the banning-policy case has been archived at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy#Amendment request: Banning Policy (November 2015). For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 23:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
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The article Meena
A lot of disruption like removal of sourced contents, addition of unsourced/poorly sourced contents has been done. I know that you worked a lot for this article, so thought to inform. Regards.--MahenSingha (Talk) 19:03, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Please find new logic at Talk:Meena for your entertainment.--MahenSingha (Talk) 20:04, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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Check
Could you check this? --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:57, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
- No, sorry. I'm not well and I have almost zero interest in WP right now. WT:INB is your friend. - Sitush (talk) 01:41, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- I am VERY sorry to see this. I do wish the best of health ASAP. Best, — Ched : ? 19:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Extending my good wishes too -- Clem Rutter (talk) 20:06, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- From me too, after surgery, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- I am VERY sorry to see this. I do wish the best of health ASAP. Best, — Ched : ? 19:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Hypocrisy
See this - “I am a big advocate of freedom: freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of thought” - Jimmy Wales, Founder of Wikipedia [sic] and Chairman of JWF". Advocate when it suits him, obviously, but this is the same guy who objects to people using the word "hysterical" on his talk page because some doltheads think it is a sexist term and he likes bandwagons. I see no reason why this man should be treated any differently on Wikipedia to any other "contributor", content-oriented or otherwise. But even in the latest ArbCom balls-up he seems to be accorded special status, and his toxic influence at WP conferences etc knows no bounds. It is freedom when it suits him, not freedom per se. That makes him human, perhaps, but we really do need to end this cult of personality here and that has to start at the top. - Sitush (talk) 01:40, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- The "hysterical" word is an odd case because context matters. I often use the word to refer to the level of comedic value in a work of art, which is generally acceptable. However, because of its sexist historical baggage, it is less acceptable to refer to a person, usually a woman, as "hysterical". I know, it's confusing, but just remember "funny" is okay, but describing a woman as hysterical is not. Viriditas (talk) 10:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Your opinion is not one I recognise as being valid in the UK. Is this yet more US-centric systemic bias? - Sitush (talk) 05:07, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
And I notice that the gender gap bloc have now turned up at the ArbCom noms - Gorman, Gorilla, Keilana etc. Bollocks to them: go do your politicising in a political arena, not here. - Sitush (talk) 16:46, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Personal attacks
Please don't repeat a personal attack of the kind you just made at Talk:International reactions to the November 2015 Paris attacks. I redacted the beginning of your comment. Fences&Windows 00:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Do you think I give [redacted]? Have you seen the PAs aimed at me beforehand? - Sitush (talk) 00:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I was responding to an immediate clear attack. If you were having issues with civility and other using attacking you, you should have used dispute resolution and not escalated. I have blocked you for 24 hours to avoid disruption to that talk page, which is fraught enough already. Fences&Windows 01:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Why was Sitush's comment redacted? "a fucking shit" is a pretty innocuous expression on its own merits, and compared to the acceptable standards on wiki becomes even more so. In addition Sitush, being blocked, needs to vent. Redacting his phrase adds insult to injury. Why treat such a veteran editor with such heavy-handed contempt? Dr. K. 03:11, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- No response from F&W, I see. I'm not surprised: I've never held them in much regard. I'm tempted to restore the redaction, which was not a personal attack. If you don't like my occasionally colourful use of language here, F&W, then go sing kumbaya someplace else. - Sitush (talk) 05:11, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
- Tut tut. Where was F&W's moral crusade at this time? - Sitush (talk) 08:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
wow
ya just really can't make this stuff up. Damn, I really do appreciate you and all the other folks who actually did put out content. Thanks Sitush. — Ched : ? 01:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Sitush was frustrated and swore. But I can't see where he repeated any personal attacks after Fences and windows warned him, so how could he be regarded as "disruptive"? Was the block a punishment? Or perhaps the real reason was Sitush's subsequent comment, "Admins are not gods". Was this the disruptive "personal attack"? --Epipelagic (talk) 02:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- We are now terminally into the twilight of the serious content builder on Wikipedia, that's one thing that is sure. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:07, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- The other thing that's sure is that the admins on Wikipedia are now gods. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I have unblocked. There must be some mistake, as the user had not repeated any personal attack (or indeed edited the page in question again) after being warned. Surely no admin would block merely over insufficient deference versus themselves? Bishonen | talk 04:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC).
- Would not the upcoming arbiter of that be the great admin grandee Kudpung? Would he not disagree with you? --Epipelagic (talk) 04:28, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- I couldn't say. A single arbitrator isn't actually the arbiter of anything much. And what makes you think Kudpung would necessarily disagree, or that he will necessarily get in? In any case, you should support Drmies for arbcom, to make sure there's plenty of pushback against any and all "great admin grandees" (not saying Kudpung is one). Bishonen | talk 10:41, 16 November 2015 (UTC).
- Would not the upcoming arbiter of that be the great admin grandee Kudpung? Would he not disagree with you? --Epipelagic (talk) 04:28, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- What an extraordinary decision, User:Bishonen, to, outside of any appeals process or discussion with the blocking admin (User:Fences and windows) unilaterally overturn a block. Here are the countless examples of personal abuse by Sitush because of a content dispute at International reactions to the November 2015 Paris attacks:
- Calling me a dimwit on my talkpage and "fucking stupid"
- Telling User:Fences and windows to "fuck off" when they posted a polite note here and responding "Do you think I give a fucking shit"
- Calling me clueless, telling me to "fuck off" and calling my writing style atrocious.
- Threatening me at my talkpage
- Reverting me at International reactions to the November 2015 Paris attacks by using an edit summary of "stop being a twat and find a reliable source - this one is useless" - source being referred to as useless is Deutsche Welle
- Calling me a dimwit here
Why did you unblock unilaterally outside of proper process? AusLondonder (talk) 16:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- See WP:NOTBURO. To be fair, AusLondoner, you do come across as pretty clueless a lot of the time. This doesn't excuse Sitush's loss of temper, but it does explain it to some degree. When someone with a clue encounters someone with no idea what we are trying to do on this project, but who nevertheless has a lot of time to sink into messing things up, it takes a lot of discipline to walk away. Not everyone has that discipline. I'm sure you will continue to provoke reactions like this as long as your poor behaviour continues, AusLondoner. --John (talk) 22:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't aware but it appears that I was blocked sometime in the last 24 hours. All that would appear to prove is that Fences and windows was somewhat myopic when it comes to the big picture. A prominent part of that big picture, aside from the obvious cluelessness of Auslondonder, is the notice at the top of this very page. I also mentioned somewhere in that palaver that I was doped on morphine and was going to bed. The block came after that, I think, because I certainly didn't see it. D'oh. - Sitush (talk) 00:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- If further evidence of Auslondonder's ineptitude is needed, see this. I'm not well enough to keep much of an eye on things at the moment but some people certainly should because F&W completely misread what was going on above and elsewhere. - Sitush (talk) 04:44, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
- Wow indeed. I'm rather surprised Ritchie333, who closed the AfD as snow keep and mentioned WP:NPA, didn't even warn AusLondonder for his deplorable input there. Bishonen | talk 09:09, 18 November 2015 (UTC).
- From my experience, if you make any personal comment when closing an AfD, it comes back to haunt you and leads to everyone pointing their finger at each other. Anyway, Sitush is a good editor with numerous wads of featured content under his belt and service beyond the call of duty in dealing with notorious Indian sockfarms, so an unblock sounds good to me. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC)