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::::I came here because you broke 3RR. It's not my responsibility to intervene before you revert for the third time. It's your responsibility to know the rules and observe them. It's the same standard that I would be held to if our positions were reversed. Furthermore, as per [[WP:BURDEN]], "in some cases, editors may object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references". You were the one who removed two pieces of information that were a) reliably sourced and b) had been in the article for months. The only evidence you provided was an article that failed [[WP:RS]]. You are the one who made the change, so the burden falls to you to ptove that that information should be removed. Instead, you chose to edit war. [[User:Prisonermonkeys|Prisonermonkeys]] ([[User talk:Prisonermonkeys|talk]]) 06:19, 10 September 2017 (UTC) |
::::I came here because you broke 3RR. It's not my responsibility to intervene before you revert for the third time. It's your responsibility to know the rules and observe them. It's the same standard that I would be held to if our positions were reversed. Furthermore, as per [[WP:BURDEN]], "in some cases, editors may object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references". You were the one who removed two pieces of information that were a) reliably sourced and b) had been in the article for months. The only evidence you provided was an article that failed [[WP:RS]]. You are the one who made the change, so the burden falls to you to ptove that that information should be removed. Instead, you chose to edit war. [[User:Prisonermonkeys|Prisonermonkeys]] ([[User talk:Prisonermonkeys|talk]]) 06:19, 10 September 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::You came here because you hate me. Plain and simple. You've been the problem from the beginning, and your constant attempts to bolster your side even though you this case is clear is proof of it. [[User:GeoJoe1000|GeoJoe1000]] ([[User talk:GeoJoe1000|talk]]) 12:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC) |
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This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule.
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Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
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User:98.191.196.7 reported by User:Kansas Bear (Result: 1 week )
Just to name a few articles that have been disrupted, there are more:
Page: Racism in Saudi Arabia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Qatar and state-sponsored terrorism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Sooreh Hera (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Byzantine–Sasanian wars (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Azadbeh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: America at a Crossroads (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 98.191.196.7 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:multiple versions due to multiple articles being disrupted
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- For the article:America at a Crossroads
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [8]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: The IP in question has chosen not to use the talk page, no indication what their issue truly is.
Comments:
IP98.191.196.7 = IP72.198.49.108:
No sooner than IP72.198 was blocked until November, than IP98.191 began the exact same edits at America at the Crossroads and numerous other articles.
IP98.191, whilst busy disrupting articles, also has a history of personal attacks:
- removed trolling from account evading their block
- Kansas Bear vandalism preserving neutrality of article
- Kansas Bear vandalism preserving major neutrality of article
- KansasBear puppet account
IP72.198.49.108, also has a history of personal attacks:
- Undid revision 730809917 by LouisAragon (talk) you are garbage
- Undid revision 730757291 by LouisAragon (talk) Islamophobic edit violates policy of non-bias)
- Undid revision 731124117 by Kansas Bear (talk) Undoed vandalism, go bully someone your own status)
Editor Interaction Analyser for 98.191.196.7 & 72.198.49.108
Clearly this IP is not here to build an encyclopedia, any reversion of their edit(s) are met with personal attacks, trolling, etc. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 1 week Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:21, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
User:162.104.80.31 reported by User:Doug Weller (Result: Page protected)
- Page
- Identity Evropa (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- 162.104.80.31 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 05:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Fixed false content"
- 05:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Views */Deleted false information"
- 05:23, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Views */"
- 05:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* History */"
- 05:17, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Views */"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 05:31, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Identity Evropa. (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
Page protected. Semi-protected for one month by CambridgeBayWeather Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:19, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
User:50.123.198.38 reported by User:32.218.46.163 (Result: Semi)
Page: Gordon Hintz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 50.123.198.38 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [9]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [13]
Comments:
- Result: Semiprotected two months. Copyright and BLP issues. Consider working this out on the talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 01:28, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
User:Shamsul Islam Author reported by User:Kautilya3 (Result: Blocked indefinitely)
- Page
- Shehla Rashid Shora (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Shamsul Islam Author (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- Consecutive edits made from 22:52, 8 September 2017 (UTC) to 22:57, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- Consecutive edits made from 22:10, 8 September 2017 (UTC) to 22:28, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- 22:10, 8 September 2017 (UTC) ""
- 22:13, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Life and education */"
- 22:16, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Life and education */"
- 22:16, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Life and education */"
- 22:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC) ""
- 22:27, 8 September 2017 (UTC) ""
- 22:28, 8 September 2017 (UTC) ""
- Consecutive edits made from 20:16, 8 September 2017 (UTC) to 20:47, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- 13:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC) ""
- Consecutive edits made from 12:30, 8 September 2017 (UTC) to 12:36, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 12:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Shehla Rashid Shora. (TW)"
- 13:11, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Shehla Rashid Shora. (TW)"
- 13:13, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* September 2017 */ Reply"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
This user is basically clueless and obsessive about this page. And this is probably a throw-away account too because he is masquerading as a well-known author, with whom he has no connection at all. Kautilya3 (talk) 23:05, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- The editor's silliness has expanded to Swati Chaturvedi.[14][15][16]. Lourdes 01:22, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
- Never mind; blocked indefinitely by SpacemanSpiff. Lourdes 07:22, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
User:RevertSJW reported by User:Darkness Shines (Result: Blocked)
- Page
- Merle Dixon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- RevertSJW (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 23:52, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 799637274 by DSmurf (talk)"
- 22:54, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Revert edit bot"
- 22:50, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "OK try this without controversial language"
- 21:19, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Opinion piece from Slate is not a source"
- 07:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC) ""racist" and "misogynist" require discriminatory actions. Merle didn't really act such. Undid revision 799461277 by 65.126.152.254 (talk)"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 21:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Caution: Removal of content, blanking on Merle Dixon. (TW)"
- 22:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Merle Dixon. (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- 21:28, 8 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Rv, why */ new section"
- Comments:
User has reverted a sixth time. [17] Darkness Shines (talk) 23:58, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours Materialscientist (talk) 00:13, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
User:Boopy troopy reported by User:Doug Weller (Result: Blocked)
- Page
- Denialism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Boopy troopy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 20:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 799767912 by North Shoreman (talk) look at the sources given"
- 18:22, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 799765351 by Theroadislong (talk) the qualifier is neccessary. These are not psychologists, just some random scientific organisations."
- 18:17, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 799764320 by Home Lander (talk) just look at the sources already there."
- 18:15, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Evolution */"
- 17:47, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Evolution */ per source"
- 17:43, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "/* Evolution */"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 18:11, 9 September 2017 (UTC) "Welcome to Wikipedia! (TW)"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
- Blocked – for a period of 48 hours Ian.thomson (talk) 22:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
User:Tarook97 reported by User:Pinkbeast (Result: Blocked)
Page: Morocco (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Tarook97 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [18] (first insertion of challenged material)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- [19] first revert, not part of a formal 3RR violation (although it's only an hour ahead of comprising one with the next three reverts)
- [20] second, at 21:22 8 Sept
- [21] third, 07:22 9 Sept
- [22] fourth, 15:11 9 Sept
- [23] fifth, 21:10 9 Sept and hence within 24 hours of second, third, and fourth reverts.
- [24] sixth, 22:20 9 Sept
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [25]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Regrettably not. We are in the usual situation with Tarook97 where every other editor with eyes on the page appears to agree the material being reverted is well cited and warrants inclusion. Since I have also never known them to be persuaded of anything in a talk page discussion, it seems a bit redundant.
Comments:
Here is Tarook97's last trip (one of a series) to ANEW, where they had also violated 3RR, but were not blocked.
- It seems attempts to lead for a discussion and a general agreement for Soupforone's additions in the talk page is seen a 'edit warring' by Pinkbeast. Soupforone presented WP:Conflicting sources and my edits were to restore the section to status ante and discuss the issue in the talk page. Tarook97 (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 1 week Ian.thomson (talk) 22:55, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
User:Jayymach15 reported by User:Location (Result: Blocked)
Page: Fred Hampton (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Jayymach15 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: diff, link
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: diff
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff, diff
Comments:
Although the first edit is technically outside the 24 hour window, the editor has been reverted by multiple editors and refuses to discuss on the article talk page or his/her user page. Location (talk) 03:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked – 24 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 04:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
User:GeoJoe1000 reported by User:Prisonermonkeys (Result: )
Page: 2018 FIA Formula One World Championship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: GeoJoe1000 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [26]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [31]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: No attempt made on article talk page
Comments:
I have started a section on the talk page for this issue (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2018_FIA_Formula_One_World_Championship), but User:Prisonermonkeys has refused to use it so far. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:26, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Your last edit on the page was made at 04:13. You created that space on the talk page at 04:15. Given that your edit history reveals multiple conflicts with a variety of editors and a history of aggressive editing, how can you expect anyone to accept that you made every reasonable attempt to resolve the issue when you only attempted after you broke 3RR? Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:32, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- I apologize for Prisonermonkeys, as this is simply a personal issue on our parts. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:34, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- It's not personal at all. You made no attempt to discuss the issue with other editors and you broke 3RR. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:37, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- I have actually reverted my previous edit in trying to work collaboratively with Prisonermonkeys. This is clearly personal now. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
This is clearly an appeal to motive—you're trying to distract from the fact that you broke 3RR by trying to call my motives into question. It's not going to work. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Prisonermonkeys has still refused to work collaboratively on the page in question. I apologize on behalf of both of us for wasting precious time here. There is no further issue here. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- The issue is that you clearly broke 3RR and now you think you can talk your way out of it. That's exactly what you did last time you were the subject of an ANI for your behaviour. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:48, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Prisonermonkeys has still refused to work collaboratively on the page in question. I apologize on behalf of both of us for wasting precious time here. There is no further issue here. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- This is simply your revenge for not getting your way last time. Again, this issue has already been resolved (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2018_FIA_Formula_One_World_Championship&oldid=799837401). GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
No, it's not revenge. And no, it hasn't been resolved because that's not your call to make. The issue is that you were edit-warring. You broke WP:3RR by reverting a page three times in the space of 24 hours. That's why I posted here. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- And you tried to resolve nothing yourself, even though I was willing to go back and fix something (per your suggestion) I incorrectly changed. Your constant posting here suggests personal motivation considering I have only tried to facilitate discussion and make corrections despite your attempts to do the contrary. Rather than looking to improve the page in question, you are here attacking me in a blatant attempt to get rid of me in any way possible. You are doing Wikipedia a disservice.GeoJoe1000 (talk) 04:58, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- I am not attacking you. You clearly broke 3RR. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 05:35, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- You are correct, and that's why I realized my mistake and tried to talk things out. You care more about me than the page. If I "clearly" broke 3RR, then it would seem unnecessary to link other conflicts we've had or lie about other aggressive editing unless you simply have a grudge. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 05:36, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Would you like to explain why you came here before starting a discussion on the article talk page? GeoJoe1000 (talk) 05:52, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- I came here because you broke 3RR. It's not my responsibility to intervene before you revert for the third time. It's your responsibility to know the rules and observe them. It's the same standard that I would be held to if our positions were reversed. Furthermore, as per WP:BURDEN, "in some cases, editors may object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references". You were the one who removed two pieces of information that were a) reliably sourced and b) had been in the article for months. The only evidence you provided was an article that failed WP:RS. You are the one who made the change, so the burden falls to you to ptove that that information should be removed. Instead, you chose to edit war. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:19, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- You came here because you hate me. Plain and simple. You've been the problem from the beginning, and your constant attempts to bolster your side even though you this case is clear is proof of it. GeoJoe1000 (talk) 12:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)