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Sweden elections: the long series of dashes is causing line break problems on Safari mobile view. I suspect this is a browser bug, because playing with different sizes in Firefox desktop breaks correctly around the dashes. I think wbr will fix the Safari issue without changing the appearance for everyone else:
[[Sweden Democrats]]–<wbr/>[[Moderate Party|Moderates]]–<wbr/>[[Christian Democrats (Sweden)|Christian Democrats]]–<wbr/>[[Liberals (Sweden)|Liberals]]
Modest Genius talk 11:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done Could you please confirm that it fixes the issue, Modest Genius? Schwede66 00:09, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Alternatively reword to "the bloc consisting of the Sweden Democrats, Moderates, Christian Democrats, and Liberals..." I've not seen that long dashed construction in reliable sources.—Bagumba (talk) 01:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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... that the second-oldest church in the Diocese of Columbus, St. Mary of the Assumption (pictured), was named a minor basilica by Pope Francis on the vigil of the Assumption of Mary?
This church is from 1864. The Holy Cross Church (Columbus, Ohio) is from 1848, the Saint Patrick Church (Columbus, Ohio) is from 1853. No idea if there are others from this period, but the claim in the hook seems to be false (please don't change it to "third-oldest"). Fram (talk) 09:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- The talk page discussion agrees. I've removed "second oldest"; it may now read a bit boring. Ping @RoySmith, @Nheyob, @Maximilian775, @Hassocks5489 who have been involved with this in case they have better suggestions. —Kusma (talk) 10:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- So Maximilian775 knew and acknowledged in August that second-oldest was incorrect, but suggested an ALt1 with that very claim again in September? That's problematic. Fram (talk) 10:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies, I had missed the recent updates as I was on holiday and was unable to access WP fully on my phone. I see now that the "second-oldest" statement has been removed. The claim is attested in several of the sources, but evidently we have the clash between the church as a building – which is not the second oldest – and the church as an entity/worship community, for which the claim is valid. Admittedly I hadn't realised this when reviewing – apologies for that. Have to get back to work now, but let me think about this and add more later. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:58, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate please? I have no idea what you mean by the entity/worship community part: it isn't the second oldest building, it isn't the second oldest parish, and I have no idea what exactly it is the second oldest of then. Fram (talk) 12:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for not being clear. "Church" can refer to a physical building (as per the article Church (building)), which in this case dates from 1864, or to the congregation which worships at a particular location and which is often formally recognised, by way of (for example) holding charitable status, being legally registered as a place of worship, being a formal part of a named denomination etc., as a named entity. This sense is partly conveyed by the article Church (congregation). Unfortunately these terms are often used interchangeably. In this case, as far as I could see, all sources indicate that the Church as a formal entity was established in 1816 or 1817, and it appears to be this date which is used for the second-oldest claim. The church building is clearly not of that date. I must admit that whenever I read of a church being, say, the oldest in a particular place, I take "church" to mean the second sense of the word unless the church building is specifially mentioned. (The reference to parish adds further complications, because a Catholic parish can consist of one or more churches – in both senses of the word.) I haven't had a chance yet to review every source again since getting back from holiday, so I am I right in saying that the claim that the church is the second-oldest is not accurate in both senses of the word? Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- As the second part of the hook, the basilica, clearly references the building, so should the first part. A congregation is not made a basilica, a church building is. Fram (talk) 13:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for not being clear. "Church" can refer to a physical building (as per the article Church (building)), which in this case dates from 1864, or to the congregation which worships at a particular location and which is often formally recognised, by way of (for example) holding charitable status, being legally registered as a place of worship, being a formal part of a named denomination etc., as a named entity. This sense is partly conveyed by the article Church (congregation). Unfortunately these terms are often used interchangeably. In this case, as far as I could see, all sources indicate that the Church as a formal entity was established in 1816 or 1817, and it appears to be this date which is used for the second-oldest claim. The church building is clearly not of that date. I must admit that whenever I read of a church being, say, the oldest in a particular place, I take "church" to mean the second sense of the word unless the church building is specifially mentioned. (The reference to parish adds further complications, because a Catholic parish can consist of one or more churches – in both senses of the word.) I haven't had a chance yet to review every source again since getting back from holiday, so I am I right in saying that the claim that the church is the second-oldest is not accurate in both senses of the word? Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate please? I have no idea what you mean by the entity/worship community part: it isn't the second oldest building, it isn't the second oldest parish, and I have no idea what exactly it is the second oldest of then. Fram (talk) 12:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Excuse me, I'm a newer editor and mainly relied on user:hassocks5489 in regards to properly doing this DYK -- I had no intent to be deceptive. Maximilian775 (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Maximilian775: Welcome to the wonderful world of "You made a mistake!" We have all made mistakes at DYK over time. In a perfect world, those errors are caught in the nomination review, or otherwise before it gets on the main page. But, you see, the reviewers are also human, and so are the editors who point out the mistake. I wish you a happy and productive future at Wikipedia. — Maile (talk) 18:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, sorry, this one was on me not being thorough enough. Hopefully a suitable hook can be found, because this is a nicely written article. Happy to offer further thoughts on this, but please "ping" me so I am alerted. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Maximilian775: Welcome to the wonderful world of "You made a mistake!" We have all made mistakes at DYK over time. In a perfect world, those errors are caught in the nomination review, or otherwise before it gets on the main page. But, you see, the reviewers are also human, and so are the editors who point out the mistake. I wish you a happy and productive future at Wikipedia. — Maile (talk) 18:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies, I had missed the recent updates as I was on holiday and was unable to access WP fully on my phone. I see now that the "second-oldest" statement has been removed. The claim is attested in several of the sources, but evidently we have the clash between the church as a building – which is not the second oldest – and the church as an entity/worship community, for which the claim is valid. Admittedly I hadn't realised this when reviewing – apologies for that. Have to get back to work now, but let me think about this and add more later. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:58, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- So Maximilian775 knew and acknowledged in August that second-oldest was incorrect, but suggested an ALt1 with that very claim again in September? That's problematic. Fram (talk) 10:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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