Talk:Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Skip to table of contents

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7: 21 days

Discussions on this page often lead to previous arguments being restated. Please read recent comments, look in the archives, and review the FAQ before commenting.

view · edit

Frequently asked questions

Q: Why does the article state Kennedy "is known for advocating anti-vaccine misinformation"?

A: There is a consensus that numerous reliable sources describe Kennedy as promoting anti-vaccine misinformation. This wording is the result of a 2023 RfC.

Q: Why does article state that Kennedy advocates "public health–related conspiracy theories"?

A: Consensus is that multiple, independent, reliable sources describe Kennedy as an advocate and/or promoter of conspiracy theories. This wording is the result of a 2023 RfC.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people, which has been designated as a contentious topic.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to pseudoscience and fringe science, which is a contentious topic. Please consult the procedures and edit carefully.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles, which is a contentious topic. Please consult the procedures and edit carefully.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to COVID-19, broadly construed, which is a contentious topic. Please consult the procedures and edit carefully.

There have been attempts to recruit editors of specific viewpoints to this article. If you've come here in response to such recruitment, please review the relevant Wikipedia policy on recruitment of editors, as well as the neutral point of view policy. Disputes on Wikipedia are resolved by consensus, not by majority vote.

The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.

Other talk page banners

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Arts and Entertainment / Politics and Government / Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Autism Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Autism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of all aspects of autism and autistic culture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AutismWikipedia:WikiProject AutismTemplate:WikiProject AutismAutism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Christianity: Catholicism Low‑importance

	Christianity portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Christianity, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Christianity on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChristianityWikipedia:WikiProject ChristianityTemplate:WikiProject ChristianityChristianity articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Catholic Church portal This article is supported by WikiProject Catholicism (assessed as Low-importance).

COVID-19 Low‑importance

	COVID-19 portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject COVID-19, a project to coordinate efforts to improve all COVID-19-related articles. If you would like to help, you are invited to join and to participate in project discussions.COVID-19Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19Template:WikiProject COVID-19COVID-19 articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Law Low‑importance

	Law portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.LawWikipedia:WikiProject LawTemplate:WikiProject Lawlaw articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

New York (state) Low‑importance

	New York (state) portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York (state), a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of New York on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York (state)Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state)Template:WikiProject New York (state)New York (state) articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Politics: American Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force (assessed as Low-importance).

United States: Massachusetts / Presidential elections Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Massachusetts portal This article is supported by WikiProject Massachusetts (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject U.S. presidential elections (assessed as Low-importance).

Skepticism Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Skepticism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of science, pseudoscience, pseudohistory and skepticism related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SkepticismWikipedia:WikiProject SkepticismTemplate:WikiProject SkepticismSkepticism articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Virginia: University of Virginia Low‑importance

	Virginia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Virginia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Virginia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.VirginiaWikipedia:WikiProject VirginiaTemplate:WikiProject VirginiaVirginia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject University of Virginia (assessed as Low-importance).

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 8 times. The weeks in which this happened:

The Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see WP:COIRESPONSE.

Jordanbakernyc (talk · contribs) has been paid by Team Kennedy on behalf of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Their editing has included contributions to this article. Disclosed here.

"Misinformation" adjective should be removed

the vaccine is a topic of contention. Sources cited n this entry tend to lean toward pro vaccine and politically left opinion. To blanket state that he is a proponent of "misinformation" is biased opinion, not fact. He and his family are vaccinated. The fact that he has stated that all vaccines should be carefully tested or that he questions potential vaccine risks is not misinformation. It's a difference of opinion. Shame on you Wikipedia for allowing real misinformation from your contributors. This is not supposed to be a forum to slander people based on political bias. Bkintz (talk) 10:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read the FAQ at the top of this Talk page. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And the article it links to is unbalanced, and written like propaganda. J.P.Dill (talk) 10:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is "the article it links to"? Regarding "balanced": please read WP:FALSEBALANCE. We do not give equal time to obvious falsehoods, even if they are not obvious to User:J.P.Dill. --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anti Vaccine is false

Subject matter is reliably sourced, nothing else to discuss. Zaathras (talk) 15:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RFK Jr told Congress that he has followed the vaccine schedule and is fully vaccinated with the exception of Covid which he believes needs to be held to the same scrutiny that the other vaccines are held to. It is extremely misleading to say he is anti-vax when he and his family have had their vaccinations. 24.40.228.32 (talk) 04:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read the FAQ at the top of this Talk page. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:34, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous poster is correct. You are simply wrong, Hob Gadling. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuQ8Bv330C0 — Foxtrot1296 (talk) 06:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Things like this have been discussed a thousand times before; please see the FAQ. — Czello ^(music) 07:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And they will be discussed a thousand times more. The FAQ isn't responding to questions or criticism by individual commenters, it is designed to evade them. Same goes for catchphrases like "contentious topic" or "consensus." Because of this, many of my friends, acquaintances and I have come to the conclusion that Wikipedia can't be trusted for political, contemporary or societal topics. 2003:C1:CF21:521B:F420:2A2:3785:1E8E (talk) 03:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus is how Wikipedia works. You can challenge the existing consensus, but you'll have to bring new arguments that address what's already been agreed. — Czello ^(music) 07:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

kennedy is not anti-vax nor is he racist. This is blatantly false and is spreading misinformation. 2600:1014:B137:3A4A:5CF1:AEFF:FEDB:427C (talk) 18:14, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that anti-vaccine is false and including it in the profile seems strikingly against NPOV — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.37.101.22 (talk)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 October 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

change the following ->

"Since 2005, Kennedy has promoted anti-vaccine misinformation[8] and public-health conspiracy theories,[9] including the scientifically disproven claim of a causal link between vaccines and autism. The preservative Kennedy bases his claims on has not been used in childhood vaccines since 2001.[10] Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, he has emerged as a leading proponent of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation in the United States.[11][1] Many of his often false public health claims have targeted prominent figures such as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Joe Biden. He has written books including The Real Anthony Fauci (2021) and A Letter to Liberals (2022)."

Into the following ->

"Since 2005, Kennedy has promoted anti-vaccine and public-health information, including the claim of a causal link between vaccines and autism. Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, he has emerged as a leading opponent of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation in the United States.[11][1] Many of his public health claims have targeted prominent figures such as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Joe Biden. He has written books including The Real Anthony Fauci (2021) and A Letter to Liberals (2022)." 161.52.190.39 (talk) 09:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. — Czello ^(music) 09:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

check the dates please, make no sense

On August 29, 2020, Kennedy appeared as a speaker at a partially violent demonstration in Berlin where populist groups called for an end to restrictions caused by COVID-19. His YouTube account was removed in late September 2021 for breaking the company's new policies on vaccine misinformation. 73.131.186.20 (talk) 21:41, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does not make sense about those dates? --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 November 2024

Asked and answered. Zaathras (talk) 22:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Delete Anti vaccine and conspiracy theorist. It is not accurate and it most certainly should not be in the introductory sentence. 2601:58B:C600:1A40:64AD:5F9C:6E6D:A1F6 (talk) 07:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. Those are his most important attributes, they are accurate and well-sourced. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a political opinion and the sources are articles in magazines based on opinions. "Anti vaccine" suggests he opposes all vaccines and that is NOT factual. "Conspiracy theorist" is an empty accusation to frame him. Stop your misinformation. Trump has won and the reign of medical fascism is over. 2A0D:3344:8D2:9100:BC09:AB38:7A7B:343B (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This is blatantly biased and needs serious reformation.

See FAQ #1 and #2 above. Zaathras (talk) 22:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Kennedy is not a conspiracy theorist nor is he antivaccine. He is just for better regulation of vaccines. 199.254.158.246 (talk) 17:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See every other discussion we've had about this on this page and in the archives. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of them deal with the issue that Wikipedia is a source of misinformation in this. Clearly in the number of reactions there is absolutely no consensus. 2A0D:3344:8D2:9100:BC09:AB38:7A7B:343B (talk) 22:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 November 2024 (2)

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Just wanted to change “is a candidate” to “was” 2601:19A:4300:50D0:3CEC:106E:66BE:B97C (talk) 23:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to have been completed already. Zaathras (talk) 00:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kennedy is not a conspiracy theorist

Kennedy is not a conspiracy theorist 60.240.137.52 (talk) 10:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]