Talk:Carmen Rodríguez

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Plan

The following is our plan for the creation and development of the article on Carmen Rodriguez. 1. Our aim is to create a comprehensive, detailed and accurate article on Carmen Rodriguez. Our ultimate goal is to reach the Featured Article status. 2. Thus far, we plan on going over the following items regarding Carmen Rodriguez. Biography, which will focus on 1) early life, origins 2) family 3) education and degrees 4) the importance of religion 5) immigration to canada 6) current jobs and works-in-progress

Influences on her literary work

Literary Works. In this section we plan on either including a short summary of each work, or a link to already existing articles on her works.

Awards and Recognitions

3. The work will be split up between us in the following manner: mstmaurice will do parts 1-3 of the biography, while exclamationpoint will take care of sections 4-6 of the biography. The remainder of the sections which are shorter will be worked on jointly.

4. exclamationpoint has located an email address for Carmen Rodriguez. We hope to be able to contact her to get an interview or information, or at least to correct false information.

- This article is part of a class project at the University of British Columbia. More information can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NRG

--Mstmaurice (talk) 19:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You guys are making great progress here! I'll tidy up a little later, and help format the references. But a quick look suggests that this is basically ready for DYK right now! --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 00:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help everyone. Everything's going according to plan so far - but we definitely need more sources. I've emailed the creator of the website which wasn't so reliable in order to get information about the legitimacy of the interview with the author, hopefully that yields something. The next step now is some more research into reliable sources. The article also needs some organization and a lot of reviewing in terms of the writing - but I suppose we can worry about that after we have our information. --Mstmaurice (talk) 06:36, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! I'm planning on emailing Rodriguez tomorrow and to send her a link to this page so she could check it out/to talk about maybe interviewing her in person. I suppose that in writing an article about Rodriguez, the most reliable source would be Rodriguez herself. Also, I would be interested in adding some pictures, could someone help me with this? As well, some of the quotes I have been referring to have been on the back cover/author's page/introduction of Rodriguez's books. How do I cite these if they do not have page numbers? Thank you all very much! --Exclamationpoint (talk) 03:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good call about the pictures - I have no clue how to do that but I'll look into it. We could include a portrait, and some pictures of book covers, etc. as we go on. --Mstmaurice (talk) 08:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures are tricky, unless you get them from Rodriguez yourself. I think that fairly soon, once you've developed the article a little more, you can show it to her. You've done a great job so far! --08:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Unreliable source

One of the recently added refs looks unreliable: this one is just a home page, and so self-published. The interview itself might be reliable if we can find it in another source, but I don't think this page is usable as it stands. Mike Christie (talk) 01:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've emailed the creator of the page to get more information and see if there are legitimate credentials regarding the interview, hopefully I hear back soon! --Mstmaurice (talk) 06:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More generally, you guys are going to have to look for some reliable sources here. Which means, basically, print sources. I'm not entirely sure how much there will be on Rodriguez, so you'll probably need to chase down every last one. (We'll be talking about sources in class on Friday.) --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 16:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibility for Did you know?

Not quite sure how the process goes... but I was thinking we could do something like did you know... that Carmen Rodriguez published many of her works in both English and Spanish? What sets her apart is that she was also the one responsible for their translation. --Mstmaurice (talk) 18:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be an excellent hook; it's a quite unusual fact about her, so that would be very suitable for DYK. Mike Christie (talk) 18:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What Mike said. You'll see I just added Chicano literature to T:TDYK. You'll want to add yours here and then watchlist the page as other editors go over what you've contributed, checking that it fits the rules. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 21:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just added the article here. We'll keep an eye on it. --Mstmaurice (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good job! Yes, check in from time to time to see if anyone has any queries about it. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is great, and not as hard as I thought it would be. Hopefully we can contact Carmen Rodriguez herself soon! Thanks for all the help! --Exclamationpoint (talk) 03:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

getting rid of {{fact}} tags for DYK

Guys:

Apparently a DYK is supposed to have no {{fact}} tags. We need to get rid of the ones that are here. The two offending sentences are:

Carmen Rodriguez describes herself as a writer as being "committed, hardworking, disciplined".

Where does this quotation come from? I had a quick look earlier, and couldn't find it. We need a source, with page number etc.

Rodriguez describes her experience during the coup as an overnight change. Chileans felt a complete lack of freedom and democracy almost instantly. During the incident, many of her friends were jailed or killed.

Ditto here. Where does this information come from? We need a citation. Let's do this today. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 00:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey team,

I'm going to delete these sentences temporarily, or at least until we find out if they are from a reliable source or not (currently waiting for the website's owner to contact us). Thanks. --Exclamationpoint (talk) 00:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good work guys! looks like we got it. on to the next step! --24.84.59.200 (talk) 02:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]