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Welcome!

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Brandon Keener article

Hi there. Can you be more specific about what information you want backed up? I added a new reference, but I'm not sure if it's for the information you were referring to. HortatoryOMG (talk) 22:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please forgive me, but I'm still confused. I have read the articles you suggested, and the WP:BLP says: "As of April 3, 2010, a new proposed deletion process was established, requiring all BLPs created after March 18, 2010 to have at least one reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article." I have done this. As for the movies listed, are you saying I'm meant to find a source for every movie on there? HortatoryOMG (talk) 22:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that.  :) So how exactly does one prove that he was in these games, TV shows, and movies? I mean, I have the liner notes from the Mass Effect games right here, but I can hardly scan those and upload the picture as a reference. There's got to be some way for actors to prove they were in something that's more acceptable than IMDB, and I'm not sure what it is. Every actor article I'm looking at cites IMDB, or has no citations. HortatoryOMG (talk) 22:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For example, would this work? HortatoryOMG (talk) 22:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate all your help! I've added several more references, from non-user-editable sites. Do they look okay to you, and are they enough to get the article out of the penalty box? If not, what else do you suggest? HortatoryOMG (talk) 22:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! I'll go see if I can find a Fort Smith ref. Thanks for your patience. HortatoryOMG (talk) 23:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning the article on John Jaffer Janardhanan

Please inform why this article was nominated for Articles for deletion. This tag was removed by User:qotsa37, who introduced that tag to this article.


Lost and Empire ?

What do you want? Please be specific there are legitimate news paper articles listed on the page, websites as well. I checked Wikipedia and they state News paper articles are legitimate, so I posted them. Will you please tell me what would make you happy and I will locate it if it I can. I am unsure what you are after, if you would just tell me, but be specific, it might help.

Kim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sholun (talk • contribs) 02:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: BIHARI LAL BODYBUILDER

Hello Everard Proudfoot, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of BIHARI LAL BODYBUILDER, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Blurpeace 18:47, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TFD

I am not being disruptive, TFD is. Where do I make a formal complaint about him?--81.100.215.14 (talk) 04:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What are you up to here Explain?

Why are you harassing me for? Did I do something to you? If you want to be a nice person and help out here than great, but if you’re here to just harass people by placing deletion notices on their articles for the heck of it, than you are simply vandalizing yourself. No other user dose this without an explanation, they will specify what sources they would like to see and try to work out a easy solution to fixing an article before slapping a deletion notice on someone’s hard work. I asked you what would justify a leganamate source and you never replied back, so I looked it up on winpekia and it stated legitimate news paper articles are considered legitimate source. I put up an article from News Paper which you vandalized by removing, this news paper organization has been in business for more than fifty years, so I do not understand what you are trying to do here, please explain. Do you work for Wikipedia? you spend an awful lot of time on here, I would like clarification of your status on this website, or are you some guy with nothing else better to do with your time? Kim —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.34.109.238 (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Answer

Right after you put up the deletion noticed on my articles the link was gone to the news paper I put up. At least I answer your questions. I still want to know what you feel would constitute legitimate, please answer and be specific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.34.109.238 (talk) 12:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Answer two

Trying to capitalize letter got deleted I am new here, less than a week. Do you have any credentials that you are a professional I am curious. I hope I am talking to someone who is a professional and not some child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.34.109.238 (talk) 12:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Answer and question

What reliable sources are available? Not just that the films exist, but that they meet the notability at Wikipedia:Notability (films). Everard Proudfoot (talk) 06:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I don’t remember classifying this in that category (Notability films). If I knew a way to redirect it I would. I see no button to do so. Do you have any Information on this procedure and I would gladly do it. Please help rather than attack me with delete notices. Kim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sholun (talk • contribs) 15:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phantom Redirects

Apologies for confusing the issue with Lost on Mars, et al. I didn't see that all of the director/producer articles were already deleted; I figured there was a production house or something still there to which we could redirect these articles. On the upside, though, at least the vandalism stopped. Thanks, UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 12:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Garko

Please assume good faith. It is a very far stretch to call that a "BLP violation." In fact, the link does support the claim. Click on the "Bio" tab and there is the information cited. Though this may be a bit cryptic (to some) the consensus at WP:WPBB is that it is a reliable source. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 05:33, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is fine but please realize that when someone comes out claiming that another editor committed BLP violation it can be very damaging to that person's reputation. I just feel that you could have given me the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was a simple mistake rather than throw around a pretty damaging term. Thank you. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 05:40, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your uploads

What are you planning on doing with all of those logos? Each and every one of them must have a fair use rationale which indicates which page you're planning on putting them on. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 05:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you looked at any of the logos, you would have noticed that they are the shoulder patches for various police departments. They will be incorporated into pages about each department.


Your uploads

You know what? Fine. I don't care. I was trying to be helpful by giving you a warning, but you don't care, you just want to assume bad faith on my part. So, just let all of your copyright violating images get deleted. Enjoy. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 06:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After doing this for five years ya think maybe I actually know what I'm doing?

Article you tagged for deletion

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Mala Gaonkar

Not exactly, but will be edited. Thanks.--0ukieu (talk) 23:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Irish stripper.JPG

You're welcome. I do a good deal of image deletion, so I likely encounter these templates more than you do. Nyttend (talk) 01:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AFD of CompTIA + Acronyms --> CSD

The article contains copyright infringement, and has been nominated for deletion under CSD G12. You can check the talk page for details. --ANowlin: talk 04:02, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Rollbacker

Hi. I've been looking over your contributions and you certainly seem to do good work here. I've gone ahead and issued you rollback rights. Please be careful with the privilege - it can be easily lost. I recommend you carefully read up on the what you should do and should not do with rollback, then practice here before using it. I'm confident you'll use it wisely. If for some reason you don't want it, let me know and I'll revert.

You may wish to display {{User rollback}} on your user page. Happy editing. Toddst1 (talk) 04:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not big brother, but I did want to follow up, to see how you were doing with Rollback. From what I can tell, so far, so good. You may be interested in adding WP:TW to your toolbox. It will automate many of the things it looks like you're doing. Most serious vandal fighters use it. Like rollback, you need to be careful using it. Best of luck, and keep up the good work. Toddst1 (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shiraz Ahmed

Hi, thanks for letting me know. I have deleted it as a recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion and salted it again. I'll salt the redirect from where I moved it as well. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed just like an ordinary move for me. Probably because I have admin permissions, I guess, so the message doesn't come up. Well spotted though. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, ordinarily when you edit the article space directly, there is the red notice but I moved it from Shiraz Ahmed The Financial Daily PFUJ to Shiraz Ahmed and never noticed a thing. I shall have to do some testing in my user space. :-) --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

Make sure not to break WP:3RR on James Stacy FinalRapture - † ☪ 02:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep you're right I haven't read that in a bit and forgot the specifics. FinalRapture - † ☪ 02:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coleman

See the talk page. I seen that after I did a quick google search. People are so quick to revert and disregard sites. Since when is People and TV Guide not "good sources". Mike Allen 02:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monsignor Bonner High School

I've semi-protected it for a month; of course I protected The Wrong Version - thanks for catching that! JohnCD (talk)

Thinking it over, and looking at the history, I decided a more drastic clean-up would be useful - see here for what I have done. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:41, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there.

In regards to the autobiography of Joshua Helgason what is the issue? All information is accurate, factual. Please help me perfect this.

Thank you kindly.

--PEACELOVEROCKNRLL (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I found newspaper articles, namely in 'The Georgia Straight' and in 'The Spirt of Vancouver'. Working with producer Bob Rock is mentioned in the Spirit of Vancouver article and The Sessions winning the battle of the bands "Emergenza" is mentioned in both articles.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PEACELOVEROCKNRLL (talk • contribs) 21:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yoshinori Watanabe

OK. Given that aricle appears to be factually accurate - there are a lot of relevant Google hits - who is it attacking? It may well qualify for deletion under WP:AfD, but not as an attack page. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 22:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a thread on Phil Bridger. As I have said there, the article may well qualify for WP:AfD deletion. As it appears to be factual it is not an attack; the need for references in WP:BLP only relates to articles recently created. And I am now going to bed. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 22:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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how some one can get admin power

hi dear. nice time. can u tell me how some one can get admin Power in wiki. plz ur short answer is required

Kharasan (talk) 23:18, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

Hi, I've started a discussion regarding changes to be made to the Homosexuality article and I would appreciate your input. Talk:Homosexuality#Splitting_and_revision_of_article.

Thanks,

Pdorion (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I've not gotten objections on the talk page, and as I've received no objections from major contributors tot hat page, I am going forward with the revision of the article.

Pdorion (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined

Adam R. Vareika definitely does not fall under db-hoax. I have changed it to db-a7, because I found almost no coverage of him at all. —fetch·comms 00:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely feasible. It is certainly not a blatant and obvious hoax (db-hoax only applies to articles saying things like "Matt is turned into a cow one day and lived atop Mount Everest for two years"). Did you bother checking the sources given, as unreliable as they are? This seems to show that he at least exists, as does this. See also Google and this. Of course, he doesn't appear to be notable in any forseeable way, but he's not a hoax. —fetch·comms 00:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Claims should be taken with common sense. It's a poorly sourced BLP, to boot; those claims aren't backed up nor do they actually make him notable--Barack Obama's doctor isn't notable, for example. —fetch·comms 00:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hyperbole != hoax. But oh well. —fetch·comms 00:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings and thanks...

Greetings Everard Proudfoot – thanks for keeping an eye out. IOU1. Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 00:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Adam R. Vareika

An article that you have been involved in editing, Adam R. Vareika, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam R. Vareika. Thank you.

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John Canon

Hold your fire on the John Canon article for a bit, will ya? I'm in the middle of working on it. Also, I'm an autoreviewer, so I know full well what the notability requirements are.--GrapedApe (talk) 05:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Digvijay Singh

The last edit by IP has enhanced the career part which has improved the article.I agree with your reverting earlier edits.Those were vandalism. I do not think it is Digjijay Singh himself editing the article, may be his assistant. He is in USA these days and as IP address is from Texas so he may have time to read wikiedia there and getting it edited from his assistant/friend. Thanks again Shyamsunder (talk) 22:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey :)

Thanks for a help, it was helpful :)--Nvlado (talk) 22:55, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've answer on your questions. Sorry if a made some mistake, English isn't my mother tounge, but I wish to learn it perfectly by using English Wikipedia--Nvlado (talk) 23:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know that :D, that's because I've learned a German, not an English, in my high school as primarily language.--Nvlado (talk) 06:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

June 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia! I am glad to see you are interested in discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages such as Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous are for discussion related to improving the article, not general discussion about the topic. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. McDoobAU93 (talk) 14:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A fair request ... this comment does not help answer the poster's question and appeared to be meant either (a) as humor or (b) as a political statement. As such, it is not really appropriate for inclusion. For additional information, please see WP:SOAP. I hope this answers your question. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 22:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twinkle

I see you are patrolling new articles. You should consider using Twinkle. This will make your life much easier. (It will also mark your tagged pages as patrolled, helping other editors.) Let me know if you have questions. Good work. — Timneu22 · talk 19:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, Twinkle looks awfully complicated.  :) Everard Proudfoot (talk) 19:07, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your smiley looks a bit like sarcasm so I can't tell... but just go to Special:Preferences, the gadgets, then check Twinkle. You'll see new tabs next to edit/history/blah that will make your life happy! — Timneu22 · talk 19:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll look it over. I wasn't being sarcastic, just friendly.  :) Everard Proudfoot (talk) 19:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well in any case I knew you weren't being mean sarcastic but funny sarcastic, so it's all good. — Timneu22 · talk 19:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dallas Elementary School

Is linking the article to the Paulding County, Georgia article which includes a list of schools not enough? Or should I link it to the Paulding County School District Article? GT (talk) 19:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then why is Mcclure in Paulding County allowed without noting awards or alumni? GT (talk) 22:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

...for the catch. :) It just takes a while some times to get to the refs... the templates should be updated to read something like "Don't forget to add references as you add text; don't leave it until the end!" instead of the current bite-y "Your work is about to be deleted!" –SJ+ 21:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Loretta Lynn Politics

Interesting.I didn't know about that link, but I believe she was a supporter of George HW Bush. I know that she also supported Jimmy Carter's presidential campaign, so in general she seems to show a preference toward southern politicians. Davemcarlson (talk) 01:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pike (fashion)

As far as I am aware, he is not. Anyways, there are no outside sources since the style is not famous at the moment. However, you amy delete the page if you want, even though I am not pulling a hoax. I'd understand that at the moment with the given information it does not meet the current requirements. Sorry for any inconveniences. Wisdomsticks (talk) 17:42, 18 June 2010

Delinking

I've removing links to well-known countries and associated nationalities in line with WP:OVERLINK. In particular "... avoid cluttering the page with obvious, redundant and useless links" and "avoid linking terms whose meaning can be understood by most readers of the English Wikipedia, including plain English words, the names of major geographic features and locations ...". Do you have a specific concern about an edit I've made that may have breached these guidelines? Colonies Chris (talk) 22:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the country/nationality that's obvious, it's the link. I'm not removing the fact, just the link. Colonies Chris (talk) 22:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It appears your disagreement is not with me but with the Manual of Style. I suggest you take it up there. Colonies Chris (talk) 23:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My defense

Hi there, PROUDFOOT, VASCO from Portugal,

In my defense, i'll say the following: this "user", Zombie433, engages in - brace yourself - appalling English, overlinking, etc, etc. He has been asked to change his ways repeatedly (please check his talk page and check also mine to see the replies i have been getting about this chap), and what does he do? Removes messages the minute they arrive in his talkpage, WITHOUT answering (this includes being warned about creating unreferences BLP, he does not care, he removes those too, treating WP like a personal website!)

I have taken it upon myself to try and minimize his actions because he adds very little (he also has been told to stop over-categorizing articles, he DOES NOT, and he adds ZERO references in English - of the hundreds he does add, i admit that). I also noticed he has received several barnstars and stuff (no i'm not jealous!), and does not have the minimum courtesy to thank people for those.

All in all, again i fight the vandal (in this case, the people who refuse to comply with elementary rules of cooperation) and get scolded (fair enough, i'll admit not your - deliberate - intention, as it's the first time you write to me); OK, i won't revert his addition again, but can i at least be allowed to compose the overlinking and the appalling English?

Attentively, sorry for any incovenience - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 03:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BLPPROD -- only with no sources.

Hello, Please be aware that WP:BLPPROD is only for articles with no sources... Thanks Hobit (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fair enough, but a reference for one such claim is enough, not all claims. That is certainly there. Hobit (talk) 18:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • A) if you feel something there is contentious and unsourced, please feel free to remove it, but that's not a reason to delete the article, let alone apply a stick prod. B) The award nomination is certainly reliable. C) If you feel this should be deleted, I'd suggest an AfD nomination. I think he meets WP:N but I'm fairly generous that way, so it might be worth doing. Hobit (talk) 18:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's a RS. It may or may not prove useful in AfD toward WP:N, but it certainly meets the requirements of WP:RS. Keep in mind even primary or really poor sources are enough to ward off a sticky prod. WP:BLPPROD is, at least at the moment, only for unsourced articles. Hobit (talk) 18:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Education

Truthfully, I have little idea about the school. I just saw that the db-org tag specifically said that it does not apply to schools. Thanks, Gabithefirst (talk) 22:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you

Thank you for defending me. I did not start an edit war, and when I tried to explain my reasons they just got deleted with sarcastic and aggressive comments. Fortunately now we have settled the thing, I guess. FateForger (talk) 23:23, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it is me again. I hope not to disturb you. Since you seem to know pretty well how these things work, are there any rules for creating edit summaries in my own User:talk page? If there are, could you please tell me about them in case I'd like to change my page in the future? Thank you in advance FateForger (talk) 00:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Everard Proudfoot,

I am glad that you went through and changed the 3 External links I added to Apple product pages: iBook, Power Mac G5, & iPhone 4. I am happy, because this now gives me a chance to discuss the chance to add relevant and useful content to multiple Wikipedia articles with a reputable Wikipedia editor.

I assumed that there would be some form of conflict of interest issue that would arise in adding linking to sections of iFixit's website, especially since I am employed by iFixit. However, I read through the Wikipedia: FAQ/Organizations Page and noticed this piece of information: "If the link is relevant, helpful and informative and should otherwise be included". I made a post on the talk page, justifying my reasons for including the external link. I also added links to both offline and online news/media sources that promote the user-friendly, Wikipedia-style content on our site.

You removed the external links I added under the premise of "spam". I would like to state that the inclusion of my site's content only enhances the current content on those articles. I would be extremely happy if you could spend a few minutes looking through some of the repair guides for the repair manuals on the iBook, Power Mac G5, & iPhone 4. I feel that these pages fit under the category of being "relevant, helpful, and informative" and should be included.

I do apologize for not putting a message on the discussion page for the Power Mac G5, mentioning my affiliation with iFixit. I did do this on my other two edits however.

I would greatly appreciate your input on the matter.

Straife (talk) 23:53, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page-blanking

Thanks for pointing out what I had done. No, I certainly didn't intend to remove all the previous content, and I am not sure how I did it. Will be more careful in future. Thanks again. Grafen (talk) 07:44, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

as you can see probably, i am new to wikipedia so don't exactly know how to use it. so saying, all the information given in the haber yoonis article is as much the only proven truth there is out there about somali clans since somali people aren't prone to write things down. how do you think this history should be written down? i am open to suggestions. we are a clan of over 8 million people world wide and do indeed deserve our own page. in fact, i think every clan deserves their own page as our traditions, history and even language at times are different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatimamadar (talk • contribs) 21:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

how? especially, when all the somali people have left is word of mouth? if that is the criteria for publishing new articles to wikipedia concerning countries that have been in a war zone for the last hundered years then so much else needs to be removed. my sources are word of mouth from a handful of old people left who remember anything from the old country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatimamadar (talk • contribs) 21:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

unfortunately no. as i said, somalis are more word of mouth people. so unless i write a book and than come back to post a page i don't see how else to do it. sorry about restoring the old article. i was saddened to see it gone.

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