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Saif al-Dawla

Clashes reported [1] in the park in the southern part of Saif al-Dawla http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.185100&lon=37.127609&z=15&m=b The southern section of Saif al-Dawla should go red and/or olive. Paolowalter (talk) 11:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Are the clashes ongoing? It wouldn't be worth it to make the changes for something that happened overnight. Moester101 (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Same report say ashrafiya is under army control ,it should red too — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.44.118.168 (talk) 11:11, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most of Ashrafiya is already red, the northwestern section is yellow because other reliable sources mentioned it as YPG controlled. Moester101 (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

From the pro-opp site [syriadirect.org/rss/1432-syria-direct-news-update-6-11-2014] the rebels want to launch an attack to Sheikh Saeed to liberate it. Therefore, at least a large part of the district in in SAA hands. Please change accordingly.

Paolowalter (talk) 21:53, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It takes more than being non-biased to make a source reliable. Syria Direct seems to be confused about geography, claiming Aziza is south of Sheikh Said. Also, there is no army base in Aziza, like this source claims, which suggests weak fact checking. For this, the source is suspect when it comes to reliability.--41.76.208.114 (talk) 06:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]


SyrianPerspective map, June 12

New map from the pro-Assad side. Esn (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The biggest differences I see with regards to our own map's borders is that they claim that SAA controls eastern al-Rashidin (which is probably true) and Sheikh Lutfi (which is definitely false) while also claiming attacks on Halak and Layramoun (which I haven't seen proof of yet). On the other hand, they admit FSA advancment on al-Aziza, and FSA control of northern Ramouseh (which is shown on our map as olive, and they also show the buildings north of Sheikh Maqsood (just below the northern highway) as FSA controlled. The only unbiased edit I can do with this map is the last part I mentioned, which is make area north of Sheikh Maqsood green. Moester101 (talk) 07:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I'm not seeing this map correctly, but is it not showing parts of Jdeydah and Khaldiyeh districts as contested?--41.50.7.111 (talk) 07:01, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bustan al-Qasr

Clashes took place between the two sides in Bustan al-Qasr.SOHR Hanibal911 (talk) 10:29, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And also please update this map on based of this map Hanibal911 (talk) 10:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kallaseh

Pro opposition source said that rebels of al-Mujahideen Army targeted military bases of the pro-Assad forces in Kallaseh neighbourhood in the city of Aleppo, using heavy artillery. al-Mujahideen Army fighters targeted gatherings of the pro-regime forces in the Fire Department in Kallaseh neighbourhood.source Hanibal911 (talk) 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Military Research Center

It has fallen. Only YouTube and Twitter at the moment, but the mainstream media should catch up soon.--197.111.223.228 (talk) 20:41, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

News confirmed: http://eaworldview.com/2014/08/syria-daily-civilian-death-toll-spikes-125-killed-sunday/ --197.171.76.160 (talk) 06:45, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also rebels are entering al-Assad Suburb in Hamdaniya[2][3][4] Time to finally update this long stalemated map! Moester101 (talk) 20:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to the military research center claim, youtube and twitter are forbidden as sources on Wikipedia (you did not even provide the links) and eaworldview is a heavily pro-opposition site which has already been banned per talk at the main map of the Syrian war as a source, unless it reports on government advances. Also, as far as I can see, eaworld view is also basing its report on a rebel propaganda video (not really reliable). Otherwise, feel free to make the area near the academy contested, seems that has been confirmed by SOHR. EkoGraf (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Military Academy

A neutral source [5] has surfaced stating the attack on the military academy was catastrophically repelled so please do not make further attempts to colour the area as contested. Thank you! EkoGraf (talk) 13:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One more source saying the same http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/11/235982/moderate-rebels-face-worsening.html.Paolowalter (talk) 17:34, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The same source states that Haidariah is government controlled. The area where fighting is going mentioned in the source on is likely to be that between Hanano and Owaja (See map http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=36.252649&lon=37.199879&z=15&m=b&permpoly=105540).Paolowalter (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the west, the rebels made a push last week to capture the city’s military academy, the major government-held installation in the city’s western quadrant. But attack, however, ended in catastrophe, exposing the rebels to repeated attacks from the air, even at night, that made it impossible to move men and weapons freely. Also government already controls, the industrial zone and the al Haidariah district in the city’s northeast. Ledger-EnquirerCharlotte ObserverThe TelegraphSun HeraldVC StarMcClatchly DCIdaho StatesmanMiami Herald I think that no one will say that it is not reliable sources. Hanibal911 (talk) 19:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kalasseh

The source http://aranews.net/2014/07/islamic-rebels-attack-pro-assad-forces-aleppo-killing-five/ (thanks to Hanibal911) reports that SAA control all or part of Kalasseh neighborood, that is shown full green in the map. It must become at least partially red.Paolowalter (talk) 20:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This info fits with the map https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsi8_1ACMAMCpc0.jpg:large that provides a picture quite different from the one from this map. It confirms that Bustan al Qasr is almost completely under SAA control. It should be used tp update our map.Paolowalter (talk) 20:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I already showed the flaws of Hanibal's source in my previous comment. As for the accuracy of PBS's map, the fact that they painted the Umayyad mosque and areas just south of the citadel (especially palace of justice) as red shows you how much these people know about the situation in Aleppo... Moester101 (talk) 04:40, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]