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Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question

Hello, The Banner! I'm Timtrent. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. Fiddle Faddle 17:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Poor translations

Regarding the AfD of 10th (Magdeburg) Hussars, I thought you would have known about WP:Pages needing translation into English, and that the second part of that page is poorly translated pages? I'll work on the Hussars article if I have time, but meanwhile have templated it and reported it there; please, if you find another very bad translation, do that so that those of us who work there are aware of it. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I did not know part two. The Banner talk 09:36, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:20, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 July 2014

No, I don't have to fix every template on a page I edit

Hi,

Sorry, your message is simply wrong. Me including a (widely used) template does not create an obligation for me to fix all the DABs and redirects in that template.

If this isn't obvious to you, then please find the rule that supports your theory.

WikiCleaner is a good tool but a poor master. Gronky (talk) 11:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Then I guess you also refused to clean up your own room as kid because there was no law giving your mother the right to demand that of you...
But it is quite common to clean up the mess you create. Not a law or policy, but just out of courtesy and cooperation. The Banner talk 11:15, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But I didn't create this mess. Why don't you talk to the contributors of that template? Or the contributors to the hundreds of other articles which include it? Or how about fixing it yourself if you think it's such a priority?
I clean up tonnes of stuff on Wikipedia. I fix syntax and when I sometimes find whole articles written in HTML I take the time to convert the whole thing to Wikipedia markup. I don't expect thanks for it, but I also don't expect accusations of making a mess based on someone relaying, without checking, the output of an automated tool with low intelligence.
(P.S. although it doesn't fit into the tone of our exchange, I'd just mention that Clare is indeed an absolutely lovely place. I went camping there as a kid and loved fishing during the day and the traditional music at night.)Gronky (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is a positive twist, as we can avoid a bitter dispute now. Is it unpolite to ask in what region you stayed? As you have seen, I live on top of the Willie Clancy Summer School. The Banner talk 12:14, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Doolin, up in the north of Clare. A whole week of pier-fishing and music. Most days we caught nothing but it was still fun somehow. I think we went in to Lisdoonvarna one or two nights. I hope tablet computers don't leave the next generation unable to appreciate that sort of thing. Gronky (talk) 12:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is a nice area. Another centre of traditional music. They are working now to extent the pier to improve traffic with the Aran Islands and commercial traffic. Perhaps an idea to start looking for your rod so you have it ready for a visit next year. But Doolin is changed... The Banner talk 13:12, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeh, everything is changing. I think if the majority of the tourists are in tents and caravans, rather than hotels, then it's still close enough to "my" Doolin. If not, then I'd have to look for a different spot in Clare or Kerry. I don't like being on the Aran Islands er is een kloof tussen de touristen en de bewoners. Ik voel me daar niet thuis, en dat is een onaangenaam gevoel in je eigen land te hebben. Ik zeg niet waar ik nu woon omdat mijn anonymiteit is me zeer kostbaar. Maar ja, nice to have met you. Gronky (talk) 14:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Input at FAC

Hello. I believe we haven't met before, but there's first time for everything. Since you've been on Wikipedia for quite some time, I was wondering if you can conduct a review on Thirteen, an FA candidate of a friend of mine? You can leave comments at the review page. Appreciate your time.--Retrohead (talk) 10:44, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just a short look because I don't like that style of music...
  1. What is the relevance of the release date 1 November, except that two albums were released on that date?
  2. Why is it mentioned twice that Andy Sneap was not available as producer?
I leave it with that, as I have no emotional connection or knowledge of that style of music. Sorry. The Banner talk 11:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mawazine xxxx setlists

No I'm not going to help you get around it by nominating 5 templates. You need to find someone who has had nothing whatsoever to do with any of this and ask for their opinion. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 11:33, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For starters, it is just one template... The Banner talk 11:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Go back and check again. Template:Mawazine 2009 setlists, Template:Mawazine 2011 setlists, Template:Mawazine 2012 setlists, Template:Mawazine 2013 setlists and Template:Mawazine 2014 setlists are all one off templates used on that page and no other. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 12:01, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And I just limited myself to the one found at "Templates with disambiguation links"... The Banner talk 12:07, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 06 August 2014

Hi The Banner,

I've finished. Robert4565 (talk) 23:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. At the last count we still had 205,881 links to disambiguation pages to solve (lowest score ever was 204,346 in June) but we started with nearly a million. So every link solved is a benefit. The Banner talk 23:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Disambiguator's Barnstar
The Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to Wikipedians who are prolific disambiguators.
Thank You for all the work you have done to repair and monitor pages with disambiguation links. It is much appreciated! Robert4565 (talk) 23:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. I really appreciate this. The Banner talk 23:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

UK Politics

I'm working on it. Don't worry --Jack Cox (talk) 00:19, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 August 2014

Please comment on Talk:ISO 8601

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Dear User "The Banner",

I really appreciate your work on Michelin star restaurants in the Netherlands. It is a superb source of data. Actually, together with a colleague, we would like to use this data for a research project. I have some additional questions related to the data and it would be great if we could get in contact about it. I have created the Wikipedia account "Researchguy11", but I am not sure if Wikipedia allows for communication and/or if you are interested in sharing your insights on Michelin star restaurants and your documentation efforts. If so, maybe you can write me on my "Researchguy11" page. Thanks and all the best! Researchguy11 (talk) 10:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Point of grammar

On Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Dorado Kitchen, you said "I'm inherently bias as I'm the person who wrote the article." You are not bias. Bias as a noun means a particular tendency or inclination, especially one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice. You are not the tendency. You may be subject to the tendency.

Bias as a verb means to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, especially unfairly which is what you appear to be trying to communicate has happened.

To be correct, you would say "I'm inherently biased.." using the past participle tense of the verb bias as the object of the verb "to-be" meaning you are subject to that partiality. A participle is a verb that modifies the noun. In this case, the verb is bias, and the noun is you.

Hope this helps. The Dissident Aggressor 16:37, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, that is not my text... The Banner talk 16:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Duh. My bad. <deliberate use of poor grammar> The Dissident Aggressor 16:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Banner talk 17:29, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of MJ Mohamed Iqbal Page

Dear Banner,

Mr. Iqbal is well known personality as well as Islamic scholar in UAE (In Dubai). Iqbal is living in Dubai serving to Tamil and Islamic Society in so many ways. I can prove by providing photographs, Unfortunately very few web links are available at this moment. He is a freelance writer and he had been written so many articles in different topics, and they were published in magazines, newspapers, tabloids etc.

Iqbal is deserve to be in Wikipedia. Please advise what I should do to put about him back to Wikipedia. Your advise is very much appreciated. Nm.imthiyas (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No one has a right on a Wikipedia article. Both times now you have failed to prove that mr. Iqbal is notable. That is the problem. The Banner talk 17:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In what way you are expecting to prove him? I really don't understand, Only web links can decide a persons notability? Nm.imthiyas (talk) 21:04, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cavern airfield

Hello, why did you nominate it for deletion? What is wrong? FFA P-16 (talk) 19:30, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Double text, no need for a separate article. You can read that on the nomination page. And I note this page on the Dutch Wikipedia: nl:Overleg gebruiker:FFA P-16/blockmsg The Banner talk 19:35, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But its not a dubble text. The cavern airfield was a project, it was not built. In this project the aircrat should start inside the mountain trough a tunnel like runway. the aircraft caverns (the article woh is said as dubble) are built and locatet on diffrend geographical locations. by aircraft caverns the aircrat did not start inside the caverns, the aircraft have to be pullet out by aircraft tugs and have to taxi to the runnway. FFA P-16 (talk) 19:43, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox musical artist

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The Signpost: 20 August 2014

Nitramrekcap: SPI

Following Drmies' advice at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive851#Enough is enough. I filed an SPI for the new IP emanation of the same: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nitramrekcap

The new IP is blocked already [1] --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit warring in organic food

Hi The Banner. This is to give you a friendly reminder that your recent reverts over at Organic food fall into edit warring when you ignore either requests to discuss content at the article talk page or discussions that have already taken place. It looks like you've been an editor long enough to know better, so I'll spare the links to relevant pages in the hopes that the behavior was just a temporary mishap in judgement. When editors are asking for content to be set aside for a moment for a breather so discussion can occur about resolving content discrepancies, it's not particularly helpful to stir things up with pointy reverts while not engaging in the discussion after being asked to do so. If you feel strongly about something, bring it to the talk page (and follow the discussion that's already occurred) rather than relying on reverting and edit summaries outside the discussion. Kingofaces43 (talk) 01:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am not edit warring and you know that. The fact that you guys remove everything what is positive is making the article POV, and you and friends are to blame for that. The Banner talk 09:11, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Continuing to revert while ignoring the article talk page after being repeatedly asked to bring concerns there is one of the very definitions of edit warring, not to mention disruptive. Positive or negative content has never been brought up for the issue being discussed, and it's quite difficult to say the content in question is either positive or negative. The wording and content itself are rather neutral. It's been an issue of sourcing as the current content being discussed doesn't have a source directly supporting it due to synthesis issues as multiple users have pointed out now. It seems like you might have some other ax to grind with your deleting positive content remark, so I highly suggest stepping back for a bit and look into what's actually being discussed at the article. Kingofaces43 (talk) 14:09, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You keep removing stuff and I have to step back? Are you kidding? You are now the one edit warring! The Banner talk 14:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the content as part of the ongoing discussion, especially WP:STATUSQUO. We're discussing the content, while you were reverting content without joining the conversation. So yes, I am asking you to step back and read the discussion (not leave) because of that. That is why I was reverting your reverts. The whole point of the article talk page is to discuss and come to consensus. Right now we have multiple editors pointing out a sourcing issue, and Redddbaron is at the very least discussing it without resorting to reverts. You weren't doing that. Ignoring that discussion is disruptive, and I've been trying to point out how the content issue can be remedied without disruptive editing. Just set the content aside temporarily and see how we can work on it in the talk page. That's all. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:37, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
First removal and then talking when reverted is no serious attempt to get consensus. The Banner talk 15:40, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
At this point all I can say is drop the pitchfork and read the actual talk page conversation and what I've explained to you. You're getting a very different idea of what's going on than what we're actually trying to do. Settle, read, and then discuss on the article talk page if you have something constructive to add. I can't offer much more help than that at this point. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:51, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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