Talk:Dimebag Darrell

Date of Death

The date of death for Darrell Abbott was Wednesday 8 December 2004. This can be verified by dozens of news articles. Stop changing the date to 9 December 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.107.254 (talk) 04:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

William Grim

I entered some information about the article written by William Grim and referenced it to the article hosted on www.maximummetal.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.111.11.82 (talk) 09:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

ok... it was deleted with no explanation I feel that seeming as it is an article on dimebags death it should be included in this article about Dimebag, I would also like to know why the other thing I added was removed which was adding that 'aesthetics of hate' the song by machine head is about the aforementioned article because, well it is and is not actually about dimebag —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.112.156 (talk) 23:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Rita Haney

nope she sure wasnt,the were neighbors as kids and 'longtime friends' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.49.98 (talk) 19:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

They were never married but were together almost since they first met each other and she has taken his name. Her name is Rita Haney-Abbot. I find this site incredibly irksome. It's worse than a book encylopedia, imformation is ommitted when the majority dislikes it or doesn't consider it worthy info. Rita IS worthy info! She was with Dime all of his life and til the end of it. This is like Matt Heafy being a Kelly Clarkson fan, it was up there and cited but his fanboys didn't like the truth. Grow up and accept this pillar of knowledge between your thighs of ignorance. Add Rita and leave her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.5.132 (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

yep,i agree,i just wanted to say they werent 'leagally married',its obvioius to the real fans what there relationship was,i dont think anybody is disputing that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.49.98 (talk) 19:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Dimebag Murdered

Yeah, that's what I've been reading..what a loss to the metal world. Another band member dead, too Someone walked onto stage & started shooting....he's also dead 5 dead, 2 injured---1 critical You can read article updated 45 min ago.....nbc4i.com

He's gone, I'm near Detroit and the cops were talking about it on the police bands.

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its a sad truth and a realety that we all have to face up to

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this is the shocking video report of that night, please note this is quite shocking

Local news story

http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3983630/detail.html

(It's true.)

RIP

I cant believe hes dead, Its incredible, We will never forget him. I believe either bob zilla or pat lachman died with him, since they are close on stage.

Suggestions on messageboards that it's a publicity stunt, though I'm unconvinced TBH. It seems unlikely so many news agencies would be fooled

This really needs a revert. It currently contains a bio of Dave Mustaine Tom k&e 13:55, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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dimebag is an isperation to the way that i play, i own the dean dime o flage model and it rocks.

bobzilla couldent have been killed since he was a guest at namm 2007 and there has been allot of storys about pat making a new band!

i do beleve that 3 other pepole were killed but i think that it would be obseen to just decide that it was any of the band members!

if you hear anything about vinnies or pats new bands could u post it on here or e mail me at j_talbot05@hotmail.co.uk

Not just Dimebag was killed

Is the death of the two audience members any less important? I suppose it doesen't matter if you die and your not famous. Only stars get into heaven. Sorry Dimebag, you deserved better.

I hope it's clear that Wikipedia is a work of reference, and the other individuals, though their deaths were just as tragic, are not notable for individual inclusion. Wikipedia is not a general obituary file. --Dhartung | Talk 14:06, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You might want to note tho that Nathan Bray (one othe audience members who got shot) ran to the stage after Dimebag fell and tried to perform CPR, and got also shot. A martyr. // Gargaj 13:00, 2004 Dec 12 (UTC)

Photos of those involved in the shooting

Pix have been posted on the NBC website. I don't know what restrictions are on use of these images, but here are the links:

Nathan Gale http://images.ibsys.com/2004/1209/3984911_200X150.jpg (this is a photo from 'myspace',if you search for 'nathan gale' this will be the 10th result,he has no friends except 'tom' and the last login is Jul 5, 2006 2:26 PM ,very doubtfull that it was/is his account since it was accessed afetr his death.know what i mean?) Officer James D. Niggemeyer http://images.ibsys.com/2004/1209/3985007_200X150.jpg

Erin Halk http://images.ibsys.com/2004/1209/3985283_200X150.jpg

TimothyPilgrim 20:28, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

These are wire service images or digitizations and are not republishable under the Wikipedia license terms. They should not be used in the article. --Dhartung | Talk 14:07, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Killer dead too?

Didn't a police officer shoot and kill the gunman? If so, how is his picture posted above? Something is wrong

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The police officer did shoot and kill the gunman...if you think about it, his picture was taken before that happened.

Yes, the killer was killed. The picture was taken beforehand

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Yep, blew the motherfucker's head off! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.201.28 (talk) 03:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

vinnie paul

Was he the hostage or the gunman? The article is unclear, and I don't want to edit it since I have no clue myself.[[User:GregNorc|GregNorc|Talk]]

Vinnie Paul *may* have been the hostage, but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else.

Obvioulsy Vinnie Paul, being a band member and already on-stage was not the gunman, plus the gunman is NAMED in the article. Selphie 11:12, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)**

For the record, Vinne Paul is Darrell's brother

Please find a source that the hostage was Vinnie Paul. Saying "the hostage may or may not have been Vinnie Paul" is just pointless. Saying "some sources report that the hostage was Vinnie Paul" is okay if you can give a source, but so far I have found zero newspaper articles saying that was the case, but I've found a few that specifically say "audience member hostage". — [[User:Flamurai|flamurai^TM]] 12:34, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

I can't remember where said it - its been over a week since i read it but it ws eitehr nbc4i in America or the BBC. or it might have been someone else!! Selphie 12:50, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC) **

There were reports at first that another band member was killed, and most of the speculation was that it was Vinnie Paul. In the end, it seems Vinnie was escorted off the stage before any harm could come to him. Possibly due to Jeff Thompson's efforts. No one else in the band was harmed. Early reports may have suggested otherwise. THe hostage was an audience member. MrHate 23:50, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

How the hell could Vinnie be the gunman?? Its like saying Steven Hawkings was the gunman..! Hail DIMEBAG DARRELL

Vinnie Paul was not the hostage. John "Kat" Brooks was

John Lennon

Does it really matter that it was the anniversary of John Lennon's death? I mean, I know he was important and everything but there's probably nothing in it other than coincidence.

Selphie 11:09, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)**

You're right. It's distracting and has nothing to do with this tragedy. I'm deleting it. --JamesB3 12:26, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I included it because it's an interesting piece of information that IS related. Both incidents were the murder, no, more like execution, of a highly respected musician because of a derranged person. They were both targeted, not killed in a random fashion, and on the same date. I'm re-including it. TimothyPilgrim 14:46, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

I don't want to get into any kind of spat of deleting and reverting...I still don't think the item fits, but my main problem was the wording of the article implied there was a deliberate connection between the 2 murders. I changed the wording of your revision to make sure people know there was no connection beyond the date. --JamesB3 15:31, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm cool with that. TimothyPilgrim 18:05, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

It's a notable coincidence (e.g. music magazines and websites will in future mark Dec. 8 for both persons). But it's awkward and distracting inline, so I moved it to a footnote following the style in Wikipedia:Footnote. --Dhartung | Talk 14:02, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't think the date of Lennon's death is even relevent. Dimebag was killed on the anniversary of lots of things. As there is no connection, I feel it should be removed. Sanguinus 20:04, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There is a connection: both musicians were murdered by fans. That's rare enough that it merits inclusion. --Dhartung | Talk 19:57, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• I think we should mention that it was on the same day as the Lennon murder. Dimebag's assailant may have chosen the day because of its significance. The Columbine High School massacre article contains speculation about why April 20th was chosen, yet there is no evidence that the date was chosen for any particular reason. Kingturtle 20:57, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• • I agree with TimothyPilgrim and Kingturtle's reasons about why the coincidence of dates should be mentioned in this article. What is the purpose of the Note 1 and "#fn_1_back" anchor currently preceeding this sentence? ~leif ☺ _HELO 19:40, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

• The note (although I didn't put it there, I can't sort it myself) should actually refer to the last sentance, that is an extra piece of information saying John Lennonn was killed o nte same day also. It's not a major piece of information relating to this article now, is it?

• The bit of information concerning the anniversary of John Lennon's death is slightly relavent, but is only incidental to the main article. The footnote approach was in keeping with Wikipedia style, however, since some people object, I am going to try a whole new approach.

• that looks pretty good Selphie 09:28, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC) **

• What happened to Darrell and Lennon is related. They were both musicians, murdered by deranged "fans" and on the same day. The Lennon connection should be included. (Same with putting Darrell's connection on Lennon's wiki bio).

• Who is this john lemmonn you speak of?

The Iconoclast

"William Grim, a conservative writer for The Iconoclast, made an article applauding Abbott's death and spoke negatively about heavy metal and its "sub-human" followers. This was immediately met with criticism, not only from the heavy metal community, but from outsiders."

I think this little editorial comment at the end is a little inappropriate, as well as unencyclopaedic. Especially considering the article in question was in fact, a satire... not the malicious document from hell that everyone seems to be making it out to be.

(1/3): Actually, I and others who've looked at the site think that the author meant what he wrote - that he was using humor to make a point AGAINST heavy metal.

look, the article is obviously a parody -- and furthermore this kind of thing wouldn't be encyclopedic information anyway... nobody looking for information on "dimebag darrell" would be enriched in any way by reading this. so i'm deleting it.--Bangadrian 03:11, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sure, I can buy the non-encyclopedic argument. Just saying that just because it's humorous doesn't mean its message wasn't intended.

I don't think it should be included, but I do want to say that it most certainly was not satire. They guy is just a dick. BrainRotMenacer 09:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Musical influences

Musical influences are listed twice in this article Pogue 06:28, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC) William Grim is obviously some sort of uneducated bafoon. Ridiculing Dimebag Darrel's death is not only immoral, but down right Disgusting! Dimebag Darrel was not only a monumental influence on heavy metal, but on all the people he touched and inspired. He was a true musician and his music will live on forever for the sole reason that he was a tremendous musician and a inspiring human being.

Anyone else remember Dime talking about Blues Saraceno as a major influence? Abbott mentioned this in a Guitar for the Practicing Musician article circa 1995. It seems like this should be included in musical influences--Dime wore a plaid patch tattoo in honor of the guy.

quote: "... and later influenced guitar idols such as Joe Satriani." What nonsense is that?? It´s wishful thinking or spin to me. This needs to be removed!!--84.203.1.127 00:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Too Much Focus On Killing

I've noticed that the section on Dimebag Darrell's killing is easily the largest. This doesn't seem right to me.

I realise there are separate pages about Pantera and Damageoplan, but I still think the page should be mostly about his life and music.

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Why ? maybe cause the shooting was a massive and hard shock for the metal community, and even if wikipedia musn't be an emotional encyclopedia, it is necessary to show how people react to learning this (really) bad news. (sorry for my poor english, i'm working on it) [Klem] 90.5.31.134 18:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Musicians of the Political Right stub

Could someone please verify this? Thanks, --Danteferno 23:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't really think it belongs. Muya 03:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Dean Guitars

Dean is not out of buisiness...

YEAH I HAVE ONE

• They were. 64.90.217.245 03:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• • yea,but not anymore(and their cst service is horrid) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.49.98 (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Guitar Tuning- too much credit given to Dimebag

Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath was tuning his guitar down to C# as early as 1971 when recording the 'Master of Reality' album, which gave him his doom-laden guitar sound. I don't think its fair to promote Dimebag as popularising this practice, Iommi has been far more influential than Dimebag in the rock world. Listen to 'Into the Void'- heavy as hell! Pantera covered a couple of Sabbath tracks, which highlights that band's influence.

Good point. I'm rewording it. --Rp81 17:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Roger Caron

A Google search reveals Roger Caron to be a gun nut who actually thinks it's appropriate to bring legal firearms to metal shows. The possibility of accident at a show as rowdy as this one is extraordinary, and most people wouldn't go to concerts (especially metal concerts, for God's sake) if other attendees were carrying. The paragraph he (or some other bozo) included is disgusting, irrelevant, and totally wrong, and guess what I just did to it? SluggoOne 18:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Your delete is inconsistent with the NPOV. Gale's rampage was ended when Niggemeyer brought a legal firearm into the show and used it lawfully - the Franklin County grand jury cited in the article commended him. Clearly the prohibition on illegal firearms didn't work in this case - only the bad guy had one until police arrived. The deleted paragraph was factual and cited it's sources - you deleted it because you wanted to censor ideas that conflict with your own. Why suppress cited facts? Caron's disarmament is an important part of the course of events and one that unfortunately has been omitted or suppressed from traditional media outlets. :Marknoble 19:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

1) "Helplessly" adds a completely biased POV. 2) Niggemeyer didn't prove the "no firearms rule" was a bad idea, because he only attended the show after Gale started shooting. Had he attended the show as a fan instead of an on-duty police officer, he would not have been allowed to bring in his police-issue shotgun; hence, Caron was not unfairly treated compared to Niggemeyer, as you seen to imply. 3) Again, it's worth pointing out that the only firsthand source of the paragraph is Caron himself, who honestly thinks it appropriate to bring firearms to metal concerts. Nobody who was there backs up his claim that he could have killed Gale, and his amateur gun enthusiast nature seems to work against that claim.

Let's play a game. It's called "Every time one of us notices our changes reversed, we'll reverse them again." SluggoOne 16:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

1) Could he help? Nope. Why? He had been disarmed. The comment adds no bias. Omitting any mention of the facts and censoring them *does* introduce bias.

2) I never said Niggemeyer had anything to do with "no firearms". I did point out that when a good guy with a gun arrived, the attack was abruptly ended. If the good guy already there had been armed, the death/injury toll may have been reduced. Shotguns are not allowed under CCW law, nor are they a good firearm for use in crowds, so it's silly to even suggest that Niggemeyer would have brought it with him off-duty. Had Niggemeyer carried his sidearm concealed in an off-duty capacity, he would have been breaking the law - so while Caron was treated equally, banning either of them from carrying wouldn't have reduced the casualties.

3) Dispatch reporter Goodenow confirmed Carons story as required by the Dispatch editorial staff. Your assertions that the only source is Caron and that nobody backs his claim are baseless and unsupported. I am aware of others who were there that night and assert that Caron was indeed physically in a position that he may have been able to intervene. I also know that the state does not issue CHL licenses to people who cannot demonstrate proficiency with a firearm. There's no such thing as an "amateur gun enthusiast", so that can't possibly be a factor.

Rather than get into a reversion war, why not use the talk page to develop a line or two that accurately represents the fact in a way that you feel is unbiased? Marknoble 13:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I think a lot of the issue here is not whether Caron was where he was - there seems to be adequate sources to support that - but the contention that he could have prevented the incident. Personally, without a much better source, I don't think the paragraph as it was is warranted, especially as it uses emotive words like "helpless". Marknoble's right, though - try to develop a compromise rather than just reverting each other. Perhaps make light of the controversy. --Scott Wilson 18:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, I'm not asserting that Caron could have prevented the incident, only that an opportunity to lessen the magnitude of the carnage was prevented. Caron was there and had the training to intervene if only the law hadn't disarmed him. Marknoble 15:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

But do you have a source that says that? Otherwise, it's original research. --Scott Wilson 12:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

A source that says that Caron was trained to intervene? In order to obtain a CCW license in Ohio, all applicants must "physically demonstrate competency" before a license is issued. [2] The Dispatch verified that Caron was licensed. Do we need a source on Officer Niggemeyer's training too? Marknoble 21:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if this is even still an issue, but the only reason I can see to include a statement about Roger Caron is to promote the idea that guns should be allowed in concerts, which has no place in this article.--LifeEnemy 13:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

remaining silent throughout the shooting

According to the external link at the bottom of the page this is incorrect, as it states;

"Gale reportedly pinned Brooks to the floor and the stage technician said that he could feel the gun pressed against head, while the attacker shouted "Don't move, don't move." " 67.5.159.173 05:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

So correct it. 71.252.220.32 12:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is it neccecery to include whatever criticism people had on his technichal abillities???

Back of the head?

This page says Gale was shot in the back of the head, Nathan Gale says he was shot in the face and cites a Behind the Music episode (which isn't easy to check, and sounds bogus since BTM isn't the kind of show normally playing unedited footage of people getting shot).

Can anyone verify either, or should that aspect simply be edited out? Riotgear 09:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a question about this too, the article says not only was he shot in the back of his head but that it happened five times. Five rounds at point blank range could very well destroy dis head. Keep in mind when a gun is fired it ejects hot gas, usually as a flame called a muzzle flash. This not only causes burns but also has a concussive force associated that increases as with the caliber. Without getting too gory, if that is true then there isn't any way possible for a nurse in the audience to give him CPR. One needs a mouth to receive mouth to mouth, which is what the P in CPR means. (Cardio = Heart Pulmonary = Lungs Resuscitation = you perform those functions for a victim by doing chest compressions and breathing into their lungs for those who don't want to link.)

I think this article out to be changed to describe events closer to described on Nathan Gale. Since he was on stage, in the middle of a set, it's easy to imagine him being shot in the face. Given the environment (most concerts aren't well lit, fans occasionally rush the stage, and he was probably busy performing) I doubt Dimebag turned around as a reaction to the gun, he probably didn't know what was going on if he got the first bullet. Also, and more importantly, the Gale article seems well referenced. Anynobody 11:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

origin of nickname

The article should explain how he got his nickname. The name is somewhat confusing b/c from what I understand Darrell was neither a pothead nor a dealer.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 23:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You understand dimebag was never a pothead? oh boy

Hail the Leaf!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.65.136.162 (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I think its still a good idea to add where his nickname came from. It says that it used to be "Diamond Darrell" and then changed it to dimebag in the early 90s. Was this to get away from the "glam" metal image or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.236.56 (talk) 19:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

i dont know how he got it either,but 'Diamond Darrell' is the credit on the 'cowboys from hell' cd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.49.98 (talk) 19:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

i think hes called dimebag cuz as a kid he could only afford to buy pot ten bucks at a time (a dimebag)♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 06:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Technical Abilities

The article criticizes Dimebag for showing little technical knowledge in some areas...unfairly I think. Here's a vid of him playing all sorts of stuff even before Pantera hit it big...if you can play Spanish Fly, you have _amazing_ tapping ability, which is something the article criticizes him for. Anyway, something to think about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbehbt_yLpo

Technical Abilites

I deleted a paragraph here about some of the "criticism" he recieves for not using certain technical abilities. This does strike me as appropriate Encyclopedia information to compare his technical ability to other guitarists and state random people's opinions, such as how some of his solos are "filler". This just does not belong here. I left the other stuff though like his unique tuning, because it outlines a style of guitar playing he utilized and embodies actual information rather than a bunch of random opinions. Of course, the rest of this section could be disputed as well, but that's up to the rest of you. I just deleted what I thought wasn't necessary.

I suppose the writer had in mind, though I haven't read the piece in some time, the people that tout Dimebag as the greatest guitarist to have ever lived. Though he was a good guitarist, this is simply not true. But I don't see how it's necessary to include the idea that there were Pantera songs that had solos for the sake of having solos. That's pretty common in metal, or rock music of any kind. 68.107.196.211 18:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Dimebags solo's were incredibly inventive. I loved them and would never consider them filler. Portillo (talk) 10:12, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

song

was there a song written about dimebags death that praised the murderer, i saw it somewhere but am unsure if it was a credible source as to add it here

A/B'd?

"According to an interview with Dino Cazares then of Fear Factory Dime told him that during the recording of Reinventing the Steel he A/B'd his guitar tone with Dino's (incidentally during the making of Fear Factory's Demanufacture Cazares A/B'd his guitar tone against that of Vulgar Display of Power)."

What does A/B'd mean? I doubt I'm the only one clueless as to what it means. BrainRotMenacer 05:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It should be removed unless someone can define.

Musicmanship

This section looks copied from somewhere. It states, "These and another contest prize, his first Randall Amplifier, are the 2 staples of his style and sound." Using the present tense. Also, it already has a cite needed tag on this section. Unless we can get some references for this section soon, and then tidy up the wording, I suggest we delete it. I know Dime had stated on many occasions that his Dean and Randall are his main sound, but before his death he switched to Krank amps. I have seen videos with Dime talking and stating these facts on Youtube. If I can use these as sources, I'll make the changes myself. If we can merge this into other parts of the article, that would be much cleaner. 172.141.126.112 05:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Washburn Dimebag Models

Anyone know where to find information on Dimebags Washburn models?

Rock walk

The article says that Dimebag Darrell's name is on the Rock Walk. Well .... I don't see any sources for that, and the RockWalk.com site shows many names ... but not his!

Can anyone verify this? Angel Of Wisdom 21:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

yes sir i can..and i will...enjoy

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/video_news/vinnie_paul_ace_zakk_ian_king_all_show_for_dimebag_rockwalk_induction.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.49.98 (talk) 19:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Tributes to Abbott

I recently discover the band "Crucified Barbara"[[3]] , they made a song in their first album called "I need a Cowboy from Hell" [4], I think there could be a link with the Pantera's fifth album "Cowboy from Hell"[[5]] (kind a coincidence, isn't it ?), and the album was released only few months after the shooting. I think we could add it, that's only 1 line about a tribute, not a whole "fan" paragraph. [Klem] 90.5.31.134 18:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

disrespecting the dime/with that respecting him

personally in my opionoin anyone who deletes or puts false info on the page is disrespecting dimebag darrell. and a wasy it seems scott ian from anthrax pays tribute bye dyin his goatie red —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.60.122 (talk) 04:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Janick Gers as an influence?

I can understand Adrian Smith and Dave Murray (of Iron Maiden) being influential to Dime. But Janick Gers? He has only been in Maiden since 1990, by which time Pantera had released Cowboys From Hell, and his style had been pretty much established (although it changed over the next few albums, Janick could hardly be considered responsible.) Unless Dimebag was a huge Gillan fan while Janick was in the band, Janick hadn't done a whole lot of notable guitar work before joining Maiden. Is it possible that someone read that Dimebag was influenced by Iron Maiden and thought "let's just put all of the guitarists in there" without realizing it? Matt d84 (talk) 17:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Funeral and burial

There's a lot in VH-1's About the Music Pantera show on the attendees, party, Eddie Van Halen putting his famed guitar in the coffin, etc. This could be added to the article, if someone has the tape or more details. 70.124.89.184 (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't explicitly say that Gale was killed

Unless I'm missing something, the "Death" section doesn't actually say that Niggemeyer's shots proved fatal. Maybe that's obvious to people who know the situation, or who know guns, but a lot of readers won't.

(Incidentally, also in that section, in the absence of mind-reading how do we know that Gale didn't see Niggemeyer? Surely the best we can say is that he didn't react as though he had.) 81.158.2.229 (talk) 23:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Ignorance.

I just saw the Pantera: Behind the Music on VH1 and came to Dimebag's page for more information. What an artist.

In any case, I'm disturbed by the editing of the neutralizing officer's name to include variations of the word 'nigger,' which has been emphacized and, in some cases, bolded. I admittedly don't know much about this topic, but I highly doubt its integrity as a result. I've never posted a comment on Wikipedia before, but I suggest someone fix this immediately.

Good day.

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Tribute songs.

How is Hatebreed's Last Breath a tribute song when it was written seven years before he died? 75.179.3.77 (talk) 04:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC) Exactly why I removed any uncited tribute listings. Provide a citation if you want to add a tribute song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.131.125.50 (talk) 20:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Birth Date

His Birthdate is August 20th. I have visited the gravesite at Moore Funeral Home in Arlington to confirm this. Someone please change it to the correct date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zammy63 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

You are right. Some people seem to find it funny changing dates around, but it has been fixed now. Erzsébet Báthory_{(talk|contr.)} 23:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

20th August, 1966 - 8th December, 2004 202.65.136.162 (talk) 00:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)Dean

January 2010 issue of Revolver Magazine

The January 2010 issue of Revolver Magazine is loaded with interviews from the remaining band members of Pantera on Dimebag and creating Vulgar Display Of Power. It also comes loaded with Pantera memorabilia and rare photos from the Pantera vault.

Am I the only one who thinks this passage, with the repeated use of "loaded," sounds more like an ad for the magazine than an objective encyclopedia description? Jaltcoh (talk) 02:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism in the Early Years section?

It seems as if theres a fair amount of vandalism in the Early Years section here (one comment including the phrase "Gay Camp").

File:Dimbag Abbott .jpg Nominated for Deletion

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Megadeth - was he invited or did he just audition?

I'm not the expert but I thought he simply auditioned for the band and was not formally invited as a member. Could someone maybe come up with a citation for that? UselessToRemain (talk) 12:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Nope, he was called up by Dave Mustaine after Dave heard Power Metal in '88. Dave was pretty impressed with his playing and wanted him to join Megadeth, but Dimebag said he wouldnt join without Vinnie Paul. Dave already had Nick Menza on drums so he had no use for Vinnie Paul. Dimebag bragged about it for a few weeks around people who came by and talked to him in the clubs. The only thing i mentioned that was ever released to the public about this was what Dave said in the Behind the Music for Pantera. That being said, IMO Megadeth wouldve sounded damn ridiculous with Dimebag, and im glad he stuck with Pantera.

Bad place to put this sentence....

This is placed right after the article mentions that Gale was met shotgun pellets: "Two fans administered CPR until paramedics arrived, but were unable to revive him and he was pronounced dead at the scene."

I think this is a bad place to mention this. Who were the fans adminerstering CPR on? Darrell or others? I doubt they would do CPR on Gale but again this sentence is said right after it mentions his face getting shot. Heyfunboy (talk) 04:18, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

John Lennon

I have re-added the fact that this shooting happened on the same day as John Lennon's, but in 2004. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 05:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

: Sorry my mistake it was either John Lennon's birthday or assassination. John Lennon's assassination is December 2nd, his birthday was December 8th. Just the John Lennon note of significance re-added please can we have a vote or at least a small talk about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 23:52, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Rounds of ammunition citation

This dispute has NRA written all over it. Here you go. http://www.policeone.com/investigations/articles/120109-Ohio-police-release-report-on-chaotic-concert-murder/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.202.209.64 (talk) 20:21, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

2015 grave vandalism

@Smuckola: reverted my edits claiming that the February 28, 2015 grave vandalism is a hoax. This incident has been published on several reputable news sites. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)