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The Bubonic plague - Removed an inaccurate map of the Black Death...
I removed the following map:
It is inaccurate. The plague did not start in southern Russia, but in China years before 1347. See: Black Death page.
List of notable Sami people
Renée Zellweger is featured prominently, yet her Sami connections is that her mother "possibly" has some ancestry. That's about as thin a connection as it gets, and is not worthy of Wikipedia's standards. Surely we can find a better example than her.
"Wikipedia's standards". You mean, "high standards?" That's a joke if there ever was one. Just read this article. _____________________________________
Yes this entire article need revising. I added a comment below asking that they at least get the basic facts right. That should be easy, since other parts depend on your perspective, opinion and might even have political consequences.
The claim of 30,000 Sami's in the USA is absurd, the actual number might be a few thousand descendants total. And no number mentioned for Canada? I am personally aware of some families there, not related to me, yet I got first hand information of one who travelled over to find his migrated relatives.
Link to The Encyclopaedia of Saami Culture
I would like to add a link to The Encyclopaedia of Saami Culture (SENC). Although so far there is but one random link (to the Saami Council) available, the page warns me to be cautious about adding new links. I am proposing SENC because it is a result of scientific research and the single authors are professionals in their respective fields. The quality of most single articles is therefore very good. SENC is multilingual, but most articles have an English version. The site is hosted by the University of Helsinki. --Michael.riessler (talk) 17:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
This article is not correct
This article is not correct, it has no sources, it is a result of sloppy editing. Vyvek (talk) 12:03, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- It (or parts of it) has sources but handles them, shall we say, freely. Misreadings and unjustified conclusions. And the History section deals almost exclusively with present-day Norway, so editors from other areas or with a wider perspective would be welcome. 151.177.62.193 (talk) 12:59, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- And bad sources needing replacement, I forgot. 151.177.62.193 (talk) 14:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- The reason sources are handled "freely" is POV-pushing by a small number of Finnish editors, trying to rewrite history. This article is just peripheral to them but the claim I noticed you remove about "Lapp" allegedly having a Finnish origin fits in with their larger objective, claiming that virtually all of Scandinavia originally was populated by Finnish-speakers, and that Germanic languages derive from Finnish. Claims that are ridiculous to most sane people but are believed to be true by quite a few people in Finland. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 16:37, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Well, what I removed was an unsupported claim that the form "Lapp" occurred in older Finnish. Apart from the lack of support, the lack of final vowel would also have been very un-Finnish. But probably the whole section is difficult to understand in addition to badly researched (and I haven't got the time to devote...).
- As for "fennomaniacs", or any other -maniacs, sad to hear that they are here too. Part of it, I suppose, is the problem that if you're interested in something, you're more likely to be biased too. And in a "narrow" area of interest, there may not be enough sensible people with time to spare to outweigh that.
- Some system where professional academics and advanced students, editing under their own names, could "adopt" subjects and articles within their area of expertise, might come in very handy. If they could find the time... 151.177.62.193 (talk) 14:44, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- The reason sources are handled "freely" is POV-pushing by a small number of Finnish editors, trying to rewrite history. This article is just peripheral to them but the claim I noticed you remove about "Lapp" allegedly having a Finnish origin fits in with their larger objective, claiming that virtually all of Scandinavia originally was populated by Finnish-speakers, and that Germanic languages derive from Finnish. Claims that are ridiculous to most sane people but are believed to be true by quite a few people in Finland. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 16:37, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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Etymology is a MESS
I don't even know where to begin. That section makes about as much sense as putting an etymology section in an article about African Americans and then describing the history of the word n*i*g*g*e*r.. Not to mention that the sections is utterly LOADED with ridiculously obvious contradictions. If I had time... Unfortunately I do not. 71.235.188.9 (talk) 10:58, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
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