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*A pinch of [[DDT]]
*A pinch of [[DDT]]
| prep = Stir the DDT into the gin and serve
| prep = Stir the DDT into the gin and serve
| notes = DDT is not very soluble in gin, so only a small quantity will dissolve. DDT has been [[DDT#Effects on human health|linked]] to various health problems in humans.<ref name=Eskenazi2009>{{
| notes = DDT is not very soluble in gin, so only a small quantity will dissolve. DDT has been [[DDT#Effects on human health|linked]] to various health problems in humans.<ref name="Eskenazi2009">{{Cite journal |last=Eskenazi |first=Brenda |date=May 4, 2009 |title=The Pine River Statement: Human Health Consequences of DDT Use |journal=[[Environmental Health Perspectives]] |volume=117 |issue=9 |pages=1359–1367 |doi=10.1289/ehp.11748 |pmc=2737010 |pmid=19750098}}</ref>
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The '''Mickey Slim''' was a drink claimed to have been consumed by some in the United States in the 1940s or 1950s.<ref name="Delicious world">{{cite web|title=Mickey Slim: Delicious World of Cocktail|url=http://cocktails.gourmetrecipe.com/cocktails-with-gin-mickey-slim_l54|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140412005453/http://cocktails.gourmetrecipe.com/cocktails-with-gin-mickey-slim_l54|url-status=dead|archive-date=April 12, 2014|website=zcocktails|access-date=June 7, 2012}}</ref>{{better source |reason=That whole website is a dead link and the archive shows it was not a very substantial article. It was only 4 sentences long, and it cites The Dedalus Book of Absinthe (already cited in this article) as its real source of information. |date=December 2022}} According to the 2001 book ''The Dedalus Book of Absinthe'',<ref>{{cite book |title=The Dedalus Book of Absinthe|first=Phil |last=Baker |publisher=Dedalus|year=2001|isbn=1-873982-94-1}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last=Lezard|first=Nicholas|author-link=Nicholas Lezard|title=In a green shade|url=https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/dec/15/historybooks.highereducation2|newspaper=The Guardian|date=December 15, 2001|access-date=February 4, 2019}}</ref> it was made by combining [[gin]] with a pinch of [[DDT]] (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane), an insecticide that would later be banned in most countries; consumers of this concoction reportedly claimed that its effects were similar to [[absinthe]].{{citation needed |date=December 2022}}
The '''Mickey Slim''' was a drink claimed to have been consumed by some in the United States in the 1940s or 1950s.<ref name="Delicious world">{{Cite web |title=Mickey Slim: Delicious World of Cocktail |url=http://cocktails.gourmetrecipe.com/cocktails-with-gin-mickey-slim_l54 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140412005453/http://cocktails.gourmetrecipe.com/cocktails-with-gin-mickey-slim_l54 |archive-date=April 12, 2014 |access-date=June 7, 2012 |website=zcocktails}}</ref>{{better source |reason=That whole website is a dead link and the archive shows it was not a very substantial article. It was only 4 sentences long, and it cites The Dedalus Book of Absinthe (already cited in this article) as its real source of information. |date=December 2022}} According to the 2001 book ''The Dedalus Book of Absinthe'',<ref>{{Cite book |last=Baker |first=Phil |title=The Dedalus Book of Absinthe |publisher=Dedalus |year=2001 |isbn=1-873982-94-1}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news |last=Lezard |first=Nicholas |author-link=Nicholas Lezard |date=December 15, 2001 |title=In a green shade |work=The Guardian |url=https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/dec/15/historybooks.highereducation2 |access-date=February 4, 2019}}</ref> it was made by combining [[gin]] with a pinch of [[DDT]] (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane), an insecticide that would later be banned in most countries; consumers of this concoction reportedly claimed that its effects were similar to [[absinthe]].{{citation needed |date=December 2022}}


Due to lack of documentary evidence, it has been questioned whether this is a modern urban legend rather than a historical reality.<ref>{{cite web|title=The Myth of the Mickey Slim|url=http://www.microkhan.com/2010/06/09/the-myth-of-the-mickey-slim/|first=Brendan|last=Koerner|author-link=Brendan I. Koerner|date=June 9, 2010|access-date=January 28, 2012}}</ref>
Due to a lack of documentary evidence, it has been questioned whether this is a modern urban legend rather than a historical reality.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Koerner |first=Brendan |author-link=Brendan I. Koerner |date=June 9, 2010 |title=The Myth of the Mickey Slim |url=http://www.microkhan.com/2010/06/09/the-myth-of-the-mickey-slim/ |access-date=January 28, 2012}}</ref> As of January 2023, the earliest reference on [[Newspapers.com]] to the drink is in the television listing for a 1992 episode of ''[[Pandora's Box (British TV series)|Pandora's Box]]'', a BBC documentary series.<ref>{{cite news |title=Thursday |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/116800154/earliest-reference-to-the-mickey-slim/ |access-date=19 January 2023 |work=The Observer |date=28 June 1992 |location=London UK |format=Newspapers.com}}</ref>


This beverage should not be confused with the knockout drink known as the [[Mickey Finn (drugs)|Mickey Finn]].
This beverage should not be confused with the knockout drink known as the [[Mickey Finn (drugs)|Mickey Finn]].


== Effects of consumption of DDT by humans ==
== Effects of consumption of DDT by humans ==
In a 2009 study, DDT was [[DDT#Effects on human health|linked]] to various health problems in humans.<ref name=Eskenazi2009/> However, the negative health effects on humans have not always been apparent. ''[[Time Magazine]]'', reported on August 1, 1971, that Pest Control Executive Robert Loibl and his wife Louise start breakfast with a 10 mg capsule of DDT to demonstrate its safety, doing so for three months in front of witnesses.<ref>{{cite news|url=https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/119818354/|title=DDT diet|via=Newspapers.com| date=June 11, 1971| newspaper=[[Arizona Republic]]| location=[[Phoenix, Arizona]]}}</ref> The well-known British entomologist [[Kenneth Mellanby]] often ate small amounts of DDT during his 40 years of lectures. On p.&nbsp;75 of his 1992 book ''The DDT Story'', Mellanby famously wrote:
In a 2009 study, DDT was [[DDT#Effects on human health|linked]] to various health problems in humans.<ref name=Eskenazi2009/> However, the negative health effects on humans have not always been apparent. ''[[Time Magazine]]'', reported on August 1, 1971, that Pest Control Executive Robert Loibl and his wife Louise start breakfast with a 10 mg capsule of DDT to demonstrate its safety, doing so for three months in front of witnesses.<ref>{{Cite news |date=June 11, 1971 |title=DDT diet |work=[[Arizona Republic]] |location=[[Phoenix, Arizona]] |url=https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/119818354/ |via=Newspapers.com}}</ref> The well-known British entomologist [[Kenneth Mellanby]] often ate small amounts of DDT during his 40 years of lectures. On p.&nbsp;75 of his 1992 book ''The DDT Story'', Mellanby famously wrote:
{{Quote|[The] consumption of smaller doses in the milligram range appears to be quite harmless. I know that I myself, when lecturing about DDT during the years immediately after World War II, frequently consumed a substantial pinch of DDT, to the consternation of the audience, but with no apparent harm to myself, either then or during the next 40 years.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3532273.stm Battle over anti-malaria chemical] Richard Black, BBC News, March 4, 2004.</ref><ref>[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/4264030/DDT-is-safe-just-ask-the-professor-who-ate-it-for-40-years.html DDT is safe: just ask the professor who ate it for 40 years] Terence Kealey, UK Telegraph, 19 Jul 2001</ref>}}
{{Quote|[The] consumption of smaller doses in the milligram range appears to be quite harmless. I know that I myself, when lecturing about DDT during the years immediately after World War II, frequently consumed a substantial pinch of DDT, to the consternation of the audience, but with no apparent harm to myself, either then or during the next 40 years.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Black |first=Richard |date=March 4, 2004 |title=Battle over anti-malaria chemical |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3532273.stm |website=BBC News}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Kealey |first=Terence |date=19 Jul 2001 |title=DDT is safe: just ask the professor who ate it for 40 years |url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/4264030/DDT-is-safe-just-ask-the-professor-who-ate-it-for-40-years.html |website=UK Telegraph}}</ref>}}
The entomologist [[J. Gordon Edwards (entomologist and mountaineer)|Gordon Edwards]] also frequently demonstrated DDT consumption, and he appeared in the September 1971 edition of ''[[Esquire magazine]]'' doing so. None of them reported any psychoactive effects of their consumption of DDT.
The entomologist [[J. Gordon Edwards (entomologist and mountaineer)|Gordon Edwards]] also frequently demonstrated DDT consumption, and he appeared in the September 1971 edition of ''[[Esquire magazine]]'' doing so. None of them reported any psychoactive effects of their consumption of DDT.


There have been no reports of this tasteless chemical having any psychoactive effects. The comparison to absinthe basically does not indicate any effect at all (aside that of the alcohol in the cocktail), since the assumed psychedelic effect of absinthe, that is, the effect of the chemical [[thujone]], has in recent times been revealed to be close to non-existent.<ref name = "sap_absinthism">{{cite journal |doi=10.1186/1747-597X-1-14 |year=2006 |last1=Padosch |first1=Stephan A |last2=Lachenmeier |first2=Dirk W |last3=Kröner |first3=Lars U |title=Absinthism: a fictitious 19th century syndrome with present impact |journal=Substance Abuse Treatment, Prevention, and Policy |volume=1 |page=14|pmid=16722551 |pmc=1475830 }}</ref>
There have been no reports of this tasteless chemical having any psychoactive effects. The comparison to absinthe basically does not indicate any effect at all (aside from that of the alcohol in the cocktail), since the assumed psychedelic effect of absinthe, that is, the effect of the chemical [[thujone]], has in recent times been revealed to be close to non-existent.<ref name="sap_absinthism">{{Cite journal |last1=Padosch |first1=Stephan A |last2=Lachenmeier |first2=Dirk W |last3=Kröner |first3=Lars U |year=2006 |title=Absinthism: a fictitious 19th century syndrome with present impact |journal=Substance Abuse Treatment, Prevention, and Policy |volume=1 |page=14 |doi=10.1186/1747-597X-1-14 |pmc=1475830 |pmid=16722551 |doi-access=free }}</ref>


==See also==
==See also==
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[[Category:DDT]]
[[Category:DDT]]

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Not to be confused with the Mickey Finn.
Mickey Slim
Cocktail
TypeCocktail
Base spirit
Commonly used ingredients
PreparationStir the DDT into the gin and serve
NotesDDT is not very soluble in gin, so only a small quantity will dissolve. DDT has been linked to various health problems in humans.[1]

The Mickey Slim was a drink claimed to have been consumed by some in the United States in the 1940s or 1950s.[2][better source needed] According to the 2001 book The Dedalus Book of Absinthe,[3][4] it was made by combining gin with a pinch of DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane), an insecticide that would later be banned in most countries; consumers of this concoction reportedly claimed that its effects were similar to absinthe.[citation needed]

Due to a lack of documentary evidence, it has been questioned whether this is a modern urban legend rather than a historical reality.[5] As of January 2023, the earliest reference on Newspapers.com to the drink is in the television listing for a 1992 episode of Pandora's Box, a BBC documentary series.[6]

This beverage should not be confused with the knockout drink known as the Mickey Finn.

Effects of consumption of DDT by humans

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In a 2009 study, DDT was linked to various health problems in humans.[1] However, the negative health effects on humans have not always been apparent. Time Magazine, reported on August 1, 1971, that Pest Control Executive Robert Loibl and his wife Louise start breakfast with a 10 mg capsule of DDT to demonstrate its safety, doing so for three months in front of witnesses.[7] The well-known British entomologist Kenneth Mellanby often ate small amounts of DDT during his 40 years of lectures. On p. 75 of his 1992 book The DDT Story, Mellanby famously wrote:

[The] consumption of smaller doses in the milligram range appears to be quite harmless. I know that I myself, when lecturing about DDT during the years immediately after World War II, frequently consumed a substantial pinch of DDT, to the consternation of the audience, but with no apparent harm to myself, either then or during the next 40 years.[8][9]

The entomologist Gordon Edwards also frequently demonstrated DDT consumption, and he appeared in the September 1971 edition of Esquire magazine doing so. None of them reported any psychoactive effects of their consumption of DDT.

There have been no reports of this tasteless chemical having any psychoactive effects. The comparison to absinthe basically does not indicate any effect at all (aside from that of the alcohol in the cocktail), since the assumed psychedelic effect of absinthe, that is, the effect of the chemical thujone, has in recent times been revealed to be close to non-existent.[10]

See also

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Notes

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  1. ^ a b Eskenazi, Brenda (May 4, 2009). "The Pine River Statement: Human Health Consequences of DDT Use". Environmental Health Perspectives. 117 (9): 1359–1367. doi:10.1289/ehp.11748. PMC 2737010. PMID 19750098.
  2. ^ "Mickey Slim: Delicious World of Cocktail". zcocktails. Archived from the original on April 12, 2014. Retrieved June 7, 2012.
  3. ^ Baker, Phil (2001). The Dedalus Book of Absinthe. Dedalus. ISBN 1-873982-94-1.
  4. ^ Lezard, Nicholas (December 15, 2001). "In a green shade". The Guardian. Retrieved February 4, 2019.
  5. ^ Koerner, Brendan (June 9, 2010). "The Myth of the Mickey Slim". Retrieved January 28, 2012.
  6. ^ "Thursday" (Newspapers.com). The Observer. London UK. 28 June 1992. Retrieved 19 January 2023.
  7. ^ "DDT diet". Arizona Republic. Phoenix, Arizona. June 11, 1971 – via Newspapers.com.
  8. ^ Black, Richard (March 4, 2004). "Battle over anti-malaria chemical". BBC News.
  9. ^ Kealey, Terence (19 Jul 2001). "DDT is safe: just ask the professor who ate it for 40 years". UK Telegraph.
  10. ^ Padosch, Stephan A; Lachenmeier, Dirk W; Kröner, Lars U (2006). "Absinthism: a fictitious 19th century syndrome with present impact". Substance Abuse Treatment, Prevention, and Policy. 1: 14. doi:10.1186/1747-597X-1-14. PMC 1475830. PMID 16722551.

Further reading

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