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Technical requests

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@Raladic - Doesn't look like the move from Christine and the Queens to Rahim Redcar was discussed either, or it least discussed in a proper RM. Looks like there is an open Rm on this topic now though. estar8806 (talk) ★ 05:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't in RM, but was discussed at Talk:Christine_and_the_Queens#Naming the talk page, and that BOLD move was in line with our policies on using the latest self-identification per MOS:GENDERID, whereas the current title by someone who moved it back (and misgendering the BLP in the process of doing so) is now in opposition of that, which is why once I had an understanding of what happened (I was alerted to the page through a note at WT:LGBTQ+) I then filed this RM/TR since the RM should be speedy closed under WP:RMEC per WP:SNOW since the move to the current title was done in error and opposition of our guidelines on identity. Raladic (talk) 05:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contested technical requests

Do not insert new requests in this section. Only move requests here if the requested move has been contested.
WP:BLP1E / WP:BIO1E applies. The article is about a murder case and its appeals. The case is notable but the alleged perpetrator is not. He would be unknown if he was not convicted of murdering his daughter. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:44, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, a move discussion should be required. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why isn't he notable? How is this different from Rodney Reed, or Hank Skinner, or any of the hundreds of articles in Category:Prisoners sentenced to death by United States jurisdictions? 162 etc. (talk) 01:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One problem here is that the title "Robert Roberson case" may not match article naming conventions, though I am not sure if there is a standard in the Manual of Style. (The closest I can find is MOS:CONVICTEDFELON which has no decisive rule.) Possible precedents include Conviction of Michael Shields or Roman Polanski sexual abuse case. Perhaps this article could be simply moved so the title parallels one of those. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another possible precedent is Parker–Hulme murder case. I have no objection to Robert Roberson murder case, although it seems vague about whether Roberson was the alleged murder victim or the alleged murderer. Other possibilities could be Murder conviction and appeals of Robert Roberson and the simpler Murder conviction of Robert Roberson. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest opening a full discussion on this since there are other singers with the name Jade, be it with or without their surname/family name. – robertsky (talk) 02:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not a bad idea tbh. Among the bevy of other Jades on that given name article page, several of them are also singers. One should thoroughly check on AllMusic and/or Genius to be sure none of them ever went mononymously.
For the time being, until a full discussion occurs and/or consensus, w/e…what I'd recommend is, immediately following her birthdate in the lede, having it say "known mononymously as Jade" or words to that effect. That's fairly customary. --Cinemaniac86TalkStalk 13:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This will be a spicy RM and is in no way uncontroversial. She has been known as her full name for her entire career except for the last few months when she's released, what, three songs? RachelTensions (talk) 05:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the closest "big" article example we have in a similar situation would be Brandy Norwood who is very widely known just as "Brandy" but also recognized as "Brandy Norwood". We leave her article at her full name because the last name serves as a natural disambiguation between all the other "Brandy" articles. There's been umpteen proposals over the years to move her to Brandy (singer) and they've all failed because it just doesn't make sense. RachelTensions (talk) 05:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's a whole bunch of other schools part of NYU with all of their respective article titles also using the full "New York University x" (New York University Tisch School of the Arts, New York University College of Arts & Science, New York University Graduate School of Arts and Science, New York University Stern School of Business, New York University Rory Meyers College of Nursing, New York University Institute of Fine Arts, New York University School of Law, New York University College of Dentistry, New York University School of Professional Studies, New York University Tandon School of Engineering, New York University Silver School of Social Work) in the title. So this should probably be a full WP:RM discussion for all of those together, rather than one being different to the others per our policy on WP:CONSISTENT article titles. Raladic (talk) 03:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think a redirect, with the alternate name being bolded in the lede as its "AKA ______" name would be sufficient. I concur with @Raladic that all of the NYU sub-colleges' article names need to retain consistency with one another. So if you're insisting upon this alteration, IMO, you're insisting upon this alteration for ALL of them. I'm sure that's not the one and only in which the school's online presence refers to NYU in short form to condense space and/or be less overwhelming. --Cinemaniac86TalkStalk 15:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having those two albums in a single article is awkward, especially because both made the charts and received their own pro reviews. The first might be better categorized as an original film score, while the second is a more traditional "songs used in the film" type of soundtrack. If each album is notable in its own right (and they appear to be), then each should have its own article. Consider an article split instead. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Second the article splitting. --Cinemaniac86TalkStalk 15:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The separate albums already have incoming redirects, Judas and the Black Messiah (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) and Judas and the Black Messiah: The Inspired Album -- which would leave what to do with the current name -- redirecting back to Judas and the Black Messiah#Music and linking to the two new articles there would be the proper solution -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Doomsdayer520 and Cinemaniac86: one of you want to open a split discussion on the talk page? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ModernDaySlavery See WP:CONCISE. C F A 💬 00:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mystyle48 Is there any discussions of this confusion you are saying occurred? It appears the article has existed since 2006 at the current title and you just created the new redirect. We prefer short titles per WP:CONCISE and use longer redirects unless there is a strong case for why the longer title is required. Raladic (talk) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primary topic grabs are often controversial. Nanyang, Henan, is a city of 10 million people. I wonder if there is some political agenda behind this request. The editor has few edits, which seem mostly related to the contested topic of Taiwan. (But the user is familiar enough with Wikipedia markup to use an unusual customized signature.) —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's also possible the "?" is a character that our wiki won't render or our browsers won't display, I don't know what Mediawiki's limitations are, but that's not super relevant. I would second that this should be discussed given the context, just to make sure we don't have to move this multiple times and cause disruption or confusion. ASUKITE 15:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's an ordinary question mark – I checked the character code. I continue to doubt the user's constructiveness. The user's first edit was to say "As the username says, I won't tell u anything! Hahaha😈" and to put a big clown face and question mark on their user page. Their second edit was an RM request for Taiwan Area (which seems to have been appropriate, as it was successful after discussion). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The region stretches from Yunnan Province to Singapore (north to south) and from Myanmar (Burma) to Vietnam (west to east), while the city is only the city. Nanyang, Henan is not that well known in English context because people use Chinese more commonly when referring to it, while the region is referred more in English-speaking countries like Singapore and Malaysia. ?8 (talk) 16:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think it's not a good idea to investigate the request originator instead of discussing the request itself. ?8 (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if there is some political agenda behind this request. I'd avoid casting aspersions like this... just comment on the merits of the move. RachelTensions (talk) 01:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Donttellu8 You can open a requested move discussion by clicking the "discuss" button above, filling in your rationale and clicking publish. The instructions for requesting multiple pages can be found at Template:Requested move#Multiple related move requests ASUKITE 15:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tstcikhthys1 Given that the DAB page appears to have people with either of the two spellings, this is definitely not uncontroversial. Recommend a full RM discussion. Raladic (talk) 21:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tazelaar Contesting as this likely needs a discussion to move forward. This wiki prefers English titles when possible, and we use the WP:COMMONNAME which is the name reported by majority of sources (again, preferably English sources, which are typically going to favor an English translation) - as for the translation, if the official translation is incorrect, it might be borderline editorializing if we try to correct it unless the correction we go with is also supported by majority of RS. At the very least, we would need to see sources or evidence of which title is the common name to move forward (and that would be most productive in a discussion where editors can bring forward opposing evidence that may have been missed.) ASUKITE 14:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I concede that the content of the translation is a circumstantial argument, but an argument nonetheless. Tazelaar (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another circumstantial argument is that: "El patrón del mal" is a better recognisable title. Pablo Escobar was a drug lord, so the title could be used normally in a sentence. "El patrón del mal" is a unique title, more distinguishing from the "Pablo Escobar" article and Google results. Tazelaar (talk) 13:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Closed Limelike Curves The ANI should be closed before we move this, or we should have a discussion, given how complex the situation is compared to the types of moves we typically do here. (Also noting that while the ANI doesn't affect or reference this move in particular, it is a similar topic to what is being discussed presently) ASUKITE 15:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jean-de-Nivelle This could be controversial as the term 16-bit is used for computing and even the hat note right now points to 16-bit (disambiguation) so a full RM including the DAB page may be in order. I’d actually almost say that the ambiguous term redirect of 16bit maybe also should point to the dab page or the primary topic of 16-bit computing. Raladic (talk) 13:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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