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Do Not Delete!

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Please do not delete this page. I think it is a great reference for American Idols past, and I visit frequently for information. How can this page be improved to meet Wikipedia standards? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.83.195.74 (talk) 15:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources?

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Nothing in this article is sourced. Wikipedia demands verifiability. In a few days, I am going to remove any sales figures that remain unsourced. After that, I will remove unsourced RIAA certs. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 19:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Currently on the charts

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Why was the yellow highlighting removed for current singles still on the charts. I think that kept the page more organized and easy to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.83.195.74 (talk) 21:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable?

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99% of these are not associated with American Idol - they happen to be songs recorded by finalists of the show after leaving it. The title is misleading and this article seems rather questionable - why would these songs be any more notable than a song recorded by an artist who did not appear on the show? As time goes on this list is going to be completely out of control. This really isn't supposed to be a news source or fan page for American Idol watchers. - eo (talk) 21:36, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Changes in respect to the AfD

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I made some changes in respect to the current AfD and the reasoning is too long for the edit summary, so I am describing them here. First off, I removed all singles not directly related to American Idol, so it leaves only the coronation songs, performances from American Idol, songs from the American Idol CDs or group performances from the show. All of these songs are directly related to American Idol and belong here. The other songs are just off-shoots of American Idol and belong in articles about the songs/albums/artists. Secondly, I removed the number of weeks column because it is not notable and very hard to find reliable sources. Lastly, I removed the overview sections since they covered more than the Hot 100 charts and included songs I removed in my first point. Obviously the next thing needed is to source the peak position numbers and find some sources for sales numbers of songs missing that information. Hopefully this will be seen as a legitimate offshoot of the American Idol article and since that article is already too big at 102,261 bytes that adding back 11,644 bytes is too much for that article to handle. Aspects (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on sourcing the peak positions. Kayeloh (talk) 19:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Should Idol Gives Back singles remain on the list (Kelly's "Up to the Mountain"; Carrie's "I'll Stand by You" and "Praying for Time")?Kayeloh (talk) 20:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I must say that when I originally made the "American Idol Hot 100 Singles" addition to the American Idol page (which was later made into its own page), the intent was not to exclusively include songs that were only directly associated with the television series, but, like the Top-selling American Idol alumni page, to showcase the success of American Idol contestants as artists. Perhaps the list would still be intact had it been named "Hot 100 Singles by American Idol Contestants" instead? If I make such a page, will that end up getting chopped up as well?dbone828 (talk) 11:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It was a useful page, the page now as it is is useless. Those who are interested in the chart position of AI singles would want to look at all the singles from alumni, few people are interested in just the coronation songs alone. The sales figures given for songs performed on AI are practically worthless, since iTunes does not give out sales figures for songs sold during the competition, the figures given are only a tiny fraction of what's actually sold. For example, David Cook's Billie Jean and Always Be My Baby went to number one on iTunes, suggesting each of them sold a few hundred thousand at the least, and are likely to have gone gold possibly even platinum, certainly not the measly figures given on that page. Utterly pointless to give such figures and not give any explanation. I'd say do make a new page that gives all the Hot 100 singles bt American Idol contestant, that'll be the only useful one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.86.102.149 (talk) 02:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Crush"

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The highest-ranking debut single release of any American Idol contestant. I don't see it but maybe there's a reason? -- Banjeboi 15:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See the section above about the changes I made in respect to the AfD. These were concerns brought up by the Delete votes that I thought would change their vote if I made. We will need to come up with a consensus here about how we want this article to look. As to "Crush", wouldn't the coronation songs of the winners and runner-ups be considered their debut singles? ("A Moment Like This", "This Is the Night", "I Believe", "Inside Your Heaven" (Underwood) and "Do I Make You Proud" all reached number one and "Inside Your Heaven" (Bice) tied "Crush" and reached number two.) Aspects (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's debut or entry into the chart was the highest although others may have surpassed the ranking. -- Banjeboi 03:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Clay Aiken's "This Is The Night" debuted at #1 on the Hot 100. AllDone (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

My preceding comment must be corrected. The single "This Is The Night" was not the "A" side of that 2 song single release even though it is a commonly held belief that it was Clay's coronation single. Bridge Over Troubled Water was the "A" side and is the song that was certified Gold and later Platinum by the RIAA. [1] and is the song that debuted at #1 on the Hot 100 AllDone (talk) 21:34, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this was a Double A side single and while RIAA lists "Bridge Over Troubled Water" as being certified, Billboard lists "This Is the Night" as being the #1 single. [2] As a fan of American Idol I cannot think of one person I have talked to on message boards that would not consider "This Is the Night" as Clay Aiken's coronation single. Aspects (talk) 22:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Dates need fixing

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The dates for chart entry should be the date of the chart, not when the chart is released. The chart date is usually around a week and a half after the chart is released for historical reason.Hzh (talk) 15:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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