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A fact from Annie M.G. Schmidt appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 July 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Annie M. G. Schmidt, the "queen of Dutch children's literature," euthanized herself a day after her 84th birthday?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2009/July.

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Euthanasia

I have removed the bit about suicide, as I could not find sources for it. On the talk page for the dutch article, there has been debate about possible euthanasia or suicide, but the conclusions are hard to verify independently and the suicide part has already been deleted from the dutch article as well. --PXE-M0F 09:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's legit, and now sourced. Newspapers at the time did not report on that very much (they mostly said "heart failure") and perhaps relied on common knowledge--which is what the Dutch Wikipedia generally seems to do. Drmies (talk) 21:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is "euthanasized herself" the trendy PC word for suicide, or is there difference between the two? She is still included in the "writers who committed suicide" category. – Alensha ^talk 13:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. She committed suicide, and this statement of fact is what should be in the article. I have never come across the verb "to euthanise" and, in any case, "suicide" is more accurate for those who choose to kill themselves. The suicide article even hints that, in this case, euthanisia would be the wrong term to use. I am being bold and changing the article. Bazza (talk) 14:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was afraid to change it b/c I don't know how Dutch law defines euthanasia, I only know it's legal there. – Alensha ^talk 14:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

partly continued below (#Lead). --P64 (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I switched this article to using the nicer inline referencing system. More information about the references can still be found on the old page, Talk:Annie M. G. Schmidt/sources. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 20:18, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Andersen Award

Previously we said here that she won the Hans Christian Andersen Award for Jip and Janneke (not mentioned in that book article). As I understand it, this sometimes-called little Nobel Prize was a book award like the Nobel Prize for Literature only in 1956-58-60. Since then it is a "body of work" award. So I have replaced the coverage here.

"now" see A Wrinkle in Time#Notes for more information including source. I plan "soon" to cover this in our award article. --P64 (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

(This is the second of two new sections.)

I moved some biographical material from the lead to section 2 where it is now the third paragraph:

Her final book, Wat Ik Nog Weet, a book of childhood memories, appeared in 1992. She used euthanasia a day after her 84th birthday[14] (with a combination of pills and alcohol[15]) and was buried in Amsterdam.

I replicated some material from section 2 where it now begins the fourth paragraph, in the lead where it is now the fourth paragraph:

By the time she died in 1995 (of heart failure caused by suicide), she was an icon of the Dutch literary world, and even her death—peaceful, in the company of her friends and family—continues to be referenced in the Dutch media and played an important role in discussions of euthanasia.[10]

The latter seems to me what belongs in the lead, not factual details but meaning. It is now repeated verbatim in section 2, Career.

P.S. Sections 2 to 5 should be reconsidered, or section 2 should simply be expanded, to provide more chronological account of life. --P64 (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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