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Below is a list of general topics to get started. Feel free to list specific issues, workshops, resolutions, you would like to discuss one way or another.

This is a brainstorm page for the program of the 2010 chapters meeting in Berlin. For a successful meeting it is very important to have a schedule that covers most of the topics that are considered important to discuss by the chapters and/or WMF. Therefore I hope that you will all be giving input on which topics you find important or you think others will find important! You are welcomed to give your input on this page. Please also indicate if you think it is important to have certain Wikimedia Staff/Board members present at those topics. You might get some inspiration at the program of last year: [1] , [2].

Please indicate the topics that you think would be best discussed at the meeting. Usually this would be topics which are hard to discuss over email or online, or discussions/misunderstandings that are already taking a long time and that could use some extra inspiration.

There are only three days planned for this meeting, and therefore it might be that your topic does not make it to the agenda, or that it is combined with another. However, don't let that be a limiting factor to you to suggest topics! Also, please indicate if you prefer a certain broad type of sessions.


Program Brainstorm

General

  • example: I would like to have a lot of discussions/presentations/Q&A
  • Board & chapters round table discussion meeting
Not sure where that fits. I think that the chapters meeting should address as few topics as possible, but on a larger scale. Last year, we never really came to any workable conclusion of anything. This year, I think that the meeting should focus on one big topic (for example: international organisational development strategy) and not on many little ones. In any case, topics like fundraising or communications should be left for more focused meetings such as the fundraising summit. The idea is to take advantage of the presence of all chapters to get at least one thing done, rather than many not done at all. notafish }<';> 21:39, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Although I wasn't there last year, I think we would benefit from a vision session, discussing the overall relationship between the chapters and the Foundation. Given what has happened since then with both the aborted Chapters Agreement revision and the elongated Fundraising Agreement discussions, we could do with having a good "setting the scene" discussion to start with. AndrewRT 22:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Topics

Case study by, e.g. WMDE/WMFR/WMPL? AndrewRT 22:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Volunteer recruitment / retention
  • Cultural partnerships
Case study - GLAM-WIKI by WMAU? Wiki Loves Art by WMNL?
How about "Wikimedia Usability: Working with the chapters" as a title? AndrewRT 22:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Who did you have in mind? AndrewRT 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikimedia organisational charter
Huh? AndrewRT 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Difficulties the formed chapters are facing; Morgand536 13:14, 2/27/2010 (UTC+8)
Such as? Topic should focus on a particular issue. AndrewRT 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The roles of chapters for the China/India issue; Morgand536 13:14, 2/27/2010 (UTC+8)
What's the China/India issue? I know of issues in China and India, but they are different issues... --Tango 22:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, actually i mean China OR India issue, in the Strategy Planning or WMF, they may already have some common grounds or even some actionable tasks or proposals that the chapters can do, the meetup is a very good chance for all the chapters to see anything that we can help on those issue, especially for the chapters near China or India. Morgand536 12:03, 2/28/2010 (UTC+8)
Sorry I still don't understand - who help whom? Existing chapters help future chapters? AndrewRT 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Committee meetings

  • ...

Session for wannabe chapters

  • There are a lot of people that want to form chapters but aren't quite there yet and probably won't be invited to the meeting (they weren't last year). It would be good to invite them to one afternoon session where existing chapters will give talks on how they got set up, problems faced and how they were resolved, etc. and then they could come to the bar with everyone in the evening and chat to people and get to know people from chapters and what is going on in the world of chapters. Hopefully the WMF would fund their expenses. (This proposal was formed during a meeting between me and Frank Schulenburg.) --Tango 23:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I personally would like to leave this one to Wikimania, I would like to leave this meet up exclusive for those approved chapters.-- ※   JéRRy   ┼   雨雨   ※  16:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • That is a possible alternative, but I would rather not lose an afternoon of Wikimania. --Tango 16:49, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Reviewing the situation in Buenos Aires, I think the inter-chapters issue, and those question from Chapters wannabe, can totally support a full day for chapters in Wikimania, ahead or after the main proceeding. -- ※   JéRRy   ┼   雨雨   ※  19:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yes, it certainly could, but that makes Wikimania very long and more difficult to attend (getting time off work, etc.). --Tango 19:53, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • I agree with Yuyu. This is better done during Wikimania. Experience says that it can be done, it does not take a whole day (even if it might be better to have real space in the program for it), and the informal atmosphere of Wikimania is more suited to this kind of meetings, not to mention that inviting people for an afternoon to Berlin when there is nothing else Wikimedia to do is a bit counter-productive, when on the contrary, inviting them to Wikimania makes them even more involved in the community and give them something "else" than just present their chapter-to-be. notafish }<';> 21:42, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Ok, those arguments make sense. It makes we wonder, though, why last year there were so many issues with proto-chapters wanting to come and not being allowed (I can think of at least 2 such chapters, I think there were more). Do they feel that Wikimania isn't enough or do we just need to schedule such a meeting as part of Wikimania rather than hoping it will happen organically? Perhaps we need to ask some proto-chapters. --Tango 22:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See talk page for discussion.

Strategy

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