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Wiki Commons lists the attached stained illustration as being in honor of Andrew Mellon. <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Stained_glass_windows_of_the_Washington_National_Cathedral#/media/File:Stain_Glass_Andrew_Mellon.JPG.> I doesn't look much like it belongs with either of them, from what I can see. |
Wiki Commons lists the attached stained illustration as being in honor of Andrew Mellon. <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Stained_glass_windows_of_the_Washington_National_Cathedral#/media/File:Stain_Glass_Andrew_Mellon.JPG.> I doesn't look much like it belongs with either of them, from what I can see. |
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I can't locate any other source, but thought you should know. |
I can't locate any other source, but thought you should know. |
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==Inflation?== |
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Currently we have "During the last 18 years of his life, he gave away around $350 million (roughly $5.5 billion in 2021)". If I look at the Minneapolis Fed's CPI figures (https://www.minneapolisfed.org/about-us/monetary-policy/inflation-calculator/consumer-price-index-1913-) I see 1914 (towards the end of the 18 year period) with a CPI of 10.0 and 2021 at 271.0 - which would make his $350 million into $9.5 billion in 2021. Which seems a lot more realistic and in my view probably an underestimate. [[User:Cross Reference|Cross Reference]] ([[User talk:Cross Reference|talk]]) 17:11, 8 April 2023 (UTC) |
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== Not American == |
== Not American == |
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:@[[User:77.197.126.86|77.197.126.86]] nope [[User:Matteow101|Matteow101]] ([[User talk:Matteow101|talk]]) 14:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
:@[[User:77.197.126.86|77.197.126.86]] nope [[User:Matteow101|Matteow101]] ([[User talk:Matteow101|talk]]) 14:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2023 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Andrew Carnegie|answered=yes}} |
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Change introduction: "Andrew Carnegie was an American...." |
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"Andrew Carnegie was a Scottish..." |
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He was not American, he was Scottish. |
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This must be changed to correct this most basic fact as to his nationality. [[User:Jimbobajob|Jimbobajob]] ([[User talk:Jimbobajob|talk]]) 16:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:bojo1498|<span style="color:#6b17be">(bojo)</span>]]<span style="color:#400d72">(they/them)</span>[[User talk:bojo1498|<span style="color:#200639;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 16:45, 10 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::Reliable source being the very same Wikipedia page, where it states : Place of birth Dunfermline, Scotland. |
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::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie [[User:Jimbobajob|Jimbobajob]] ([[User talk:Jimbobajob|talk]]) 16:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2023 == |
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::Sadly, this must be some sort of modern American thinking, which is at odds with the rest of the English speaking world. [[User:Jimbobajob|Jimbobajob]] ([[User talk:Jimbobajob|talk]]) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC) |
::Sadly, this must be some sort of modern American thinking, which is at odds with the rest of the English speaking world. [[User:Jimbobajob|Jimbobajob]] ([[User talk:Jimbobajob|talk]]) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::If you object to the policy, you should raise the issue on the policy's talk page. For this specific case, you should also provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that claim Carnegie identified himself as a Scotsman. [[User:Liu1126|Liu1126]] ([[User talk:Liu1126|talk]]) 16:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
:::If you object to the policy, you should raise the issue on the policy's talk page. For this specific case, you should also provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that claim Carnegie identified himself as a Scotsman. [[User:Liu1126|Liu1126]] ([[User talk:Liu1126|talk]]) 16:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== David Nasaw Citations == |
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For the David Nasaw citations, there are pages that go up to the thousands, but "Andrew Carnegie" by David Nasaw only has around 900 page. I think clarification on these citations would be helpful! [[User:Probscheatin|Probscheatin]] ([[User talk:Probscheatin|talk]]) 21:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2023 == |
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Early Life
[edit]Changed a sentenced that said slavery was referred to as "the peculiar institution" as a euphemism from its apologists. It was actually a neutral term, and "peculiar" was used in the sense that it was only common in one particular region of the United States, namely the South.
--Michael Hollinger-- I could find no external corroboration for a 5 yr. old Andrew Carnegie killing Piedmont Morgan. Could someone cite a reference for that?
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[edit]Wiki Commons lists the attached stained illustration as being in honor of Andrew Mellon. <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Stained_glass_windows_of_the_Washington_National_Cathedral#/media/File:Stain_Glass_Andrew_Mellon.JPG.> I doesn't look much like it belongs with either of them, from what I can see. I can't locate any other source, but thought you should know.
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[edit]Andrew was born and raised in Scotland to Scottish parents and only move to America when he was 13-14, he’s not Scottish-American just Scottish. 77.197.126.86 (talk) 05:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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Change factually incorrect nationality in first lines of the entry.
"Andrew Carnegie was an American..."
To
"Andrew Carnegie was a Scottish...."
He was Scottish, born in Scotland to Scottish parents.
Sources: Wikipedia (stated place of birth)
Carnegie.org: https://www.carnegie.org/interactives/foundersstory/#!/ Jimbobajob (talk) 10:23, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: Per MOS:NATIONALITY we use the nation a person was affiliated with when they were notable Cannolis (talk) 10:27, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- That is a most backwards and unconventional manner in which to describe a person's nationality. Carnegie himself identified as a Scotsman, since he was 'a Scotsman'. An individual's nationality does not change by dint of geographical location or indeed wheresoever they forged a career. To claim otherwise is thoroughly disingenuous.
- Sadly, this must be some sort of modern American thinking, which is at odds with the rest of the English speaking world. Jimbobajob (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- If you object to the policy, you should raise the issue on the policy's talk page. For this specific case, you should also provide reliable sources that claim Carnegie identified himself as a Scotsman. Liu1126 (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change: American to Scottish 46.64.82.210 (talk) 15:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: Per MOS:NATIONALITY, we should use the country he was resident in when he became notable. Liu1126 (talk) 16:12, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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