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Ahhh the white clean space

Always good to see the archive boxes are there on the first day of the calendrical JarrahTree 08:00, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JarrahTree: Hehehe yep, I try to keep to that ... Graham87 (talk) 08:02, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question

(before off to singing in an evensong): Did you have to block a user a few hours into their career here without a conversation with them? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Yes, editors like this are almost always up to no good; see this archived section. Also, they've been around for a lot longer than a few hours, which raises suspicions even further. Have fun with the singing! Graham87 (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Esme Timbery

On 9 October 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Esme Timbery, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Step hen 00:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Taj El-Din Hilaly

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Audio and video launcher accessibility

Hi Graham, User:TheDJ here. I've been thinking about how the audio and video player are represented in the page before they are launched and I am considering making several minor changes. I'm reaching out to several people to ask if they would like to compare the before and after. If you have the time I'd love to get your input and thoughs as well. I have created the page User:TheDJ/accessibility tests with descriptions of each change, followed by several headings, each with a specific style of how a player can currently be embedded. I have also added VoiceOver transcriptions below each example of cursoring and descending into the elements. I have deployed my changes for the exact same page on the patchdemo host to compare. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@TheDJ: Hey, as for your numbered points: I agree with #1, the second one is probably a good idea (I was thinking that "lenght" might be a better word, but maybe not because it's more ambiguous), for point 3 I think brevity is better, and points 4–5 I don't have any opinion on. Re the instances where the VoiceOver transcription has the caption before the media button, that isn't the case for either JAWS or NVDA (i.e. the media button is displayed before the caption). Also, JAWS does slightly odd things with the play button in Chrome (it reads an extra "pl" before the button when navigating by arrow keys, and when navigating to the previous/next button it reads the surrounding text, not just the button label ... but the last two examples in that page don't have so many problems like that). Chrome-based browsers are usually best with JAWS these days but they sure can do weird things sometimes. Graham87 (talk) 02:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Graham. "The instances where the VoiceOver transcription has the caption before the media button". It's because the caption counts as the label for the figure, and VoiceOver thus reads it three times, respectively: begin region, caption itself, end of region. This transcription assumes you descend into the region however. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article '1959 in Australia'

Just a minor criticism of your summary for your recent edit on the subject page, which is "mass changes without consensus". The unconfirmed editor that made the edit you reverted only added two categories, which doesn't come anywhere near the concept of "mass changes". A more considered summary would have been better. Having said that, I would have reverted the same edit because the added categories are already included via the parent category. Junglenut |Talk 10:52, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Junglenut: The IP's contributions show that it made 958 changes in the space of ten hours (not counting its first edit); if that doesn't qualify as mass changes, nothing does. Graham87 (talk) 11:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But thanks for your message anyway; checking your contribs alerted me to 112.164.78.172, who did the same sort of thing. If you see this kind of editing again, please let me know. Graham87 (talk) 12:10, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies Graham, I only saw the single edit as that page is on my watchlist. Junglenut |Talk 22:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Junglenut: No worries. It's always a good idea to check an editor's contributions if you see a bad edit like that. They may well have made other edits that need to be dealt with. For IPV6 ranges (i.e. longer IP addresses), I'd very much advise checking the /64 range of the IP. Graham87 (talk) 02:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October music

The October pic shows yellow-brown leaves looking down on a river, and the 2 October pics show a river (Lahn) with many yellow flowers reflected in it, Jerusalem artichoke. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music keeps track of "my" music and memories, and just today I have a juxtaposition of music performed by the two church choirs in town, one I sang in and one where I listened, to music about love, evening and night. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, it's a place that inspired me, musings if you have time. The related image looks from a grass area under high trees into a meadow in sunlight in the distance, and on the grass are four abstract stone sculptures, taller than broad, like abstracted characters. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A Romanian woman composer is today's topic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I thought of Brian Bouldton today, and his ways to compromise. - Enjoy your vacation, - I'm also away, Ibiza, more pics to come, but too tired after church (pictured on my talk), hiking and paella. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of sibling pairs

Hi Graham87. I noticed your recent edit at List of sibling pairs. That article actually contains many entries composed of more than two people. Back in October 2021, I started a discussion on the article's talk page questioning whether all the non-pairs should be removed, or whether the article should be renamed/rescoped to include groups of more than two. Or something else. You may (or may not) care to add your thoughts to the discussion. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 09:34, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DH85868993: I didn't know that ... interesting quandary! I've put in my two cents there. Graham87 (talk) 11:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Odd block

Hi Graham87, just checking that the block at User_talk:Jefferyjaff was intended? Best, CMD (talk) 05:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: Yeah it was ... but it was probably too harsh so I've undone it (though I still have reservations about this user's editing ... see their talk page). I was reminded of them because of a recent edit to List of virus genera on my watchlist, which is only on there because they edited it (in this case to try to remove vandalism). Graham87 (talk) 06:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Graham, I wasn't aware of their previous edits. Perhaps a younger user, rather than/in addition to an English proficiency consideration. CMD (talk) 06:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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November music

Hevenu shalom aleichem is my story today. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC) I forgot to explain that the November image shows the berries of the American bittersweet, looking pretty - first yellow berries, which open to expose red ones within, and the four yellow shells remain for a great contrast - but the climber can "kill" the plants it strangles, and the berries are poisonous for humans. I took the image during the 2022 edition of a traditional trip in November, then to New York State to see friends, and in 2023 just returned from Ibiza and Madrid. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Now pics from the short trip to Aachen. My story today is about my song of defiance, - it was a great pleasure to hear it performed today! The line "Ich steh hier und singe" (I stand here and sing) is in the movement with the music pictured, which begins with "Trotz -- Trotz -- Trotz", sounding much tougher than "defiance" ;) - in this YouTube it's at 4:55. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:09, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More, if you like: today I have three items on the Main page, almost too much of a good thing! Bach's amazing cantata with the unusual scale, first performed 300 years ago OTD, the nun for the prostitutes, and Schumann's wedding gift for Clara. Also first day of vacation pics uploaded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:58, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I began another day of vacation pics - we celebrate the birthday of a friend who wrote quite a book about the compositions of a man who will turn 300 soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is a DYK hook from 13 years ago OTD: about the great music at one of my churches. Mozart's Requiem to come on Sunday, coupled with Arvo Pärt's Da pacem Domine, - I guess you might come if it was a bit closer. Perhaps watch the video of our last production, our first on yt, ever. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Re Da pacem Domine: everything I've heard involving Jordi Savall has been amazing in some way, and this is no exception. I'd never heard that piece before! Graham87 (talk) 02:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - User Talk:Gerda Arendt#Mozart Requiem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today: in memoriam Jerome Kohl who said (In Freundschaft): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quick one

Hello again

I reverted to my last edit that was deleted by you on the Oxytocin article. I assumed it was OK to do so since you performed it as part of the mass-revert you conducted but please correct me if I'm wrong! Sunshine SRA (talk) 22:18, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sunshine SRA: Not a problem. Graham87 (talk) 02:13, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great, cheers ShamsiSide.up (talk) 00:02, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Open Knowledge Association accounts

Hi! I have a question about an account you recently blocked, Alemedicen (talk · contribs). I've run across several of these accounts, with nearly identical user pages ("I receive a stipend from the Open Knowledge Association..."). Should all of these be reported and blocked, or does it depend on the behavior of the individual user? If they should be reported, where is the correct place to do that? —ShelfSkewed Talk 18:08, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ShelfSkewed: I'd say it depends on the behaviour of each account, but probably a wider discussion of this sort of thing somewhere wouldn't go astray. I don't really have the time/energy to start or lead one at the moment though. Graham87 (talk) 07:05, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Thanks for the feedback. —ShelfSkewed Talk 07:21, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ShelfSkewed: Actually it turns out I was mentioned in exactly such a wider discussion at the conflict of interest noticeboard. Graham87 (talk) 07:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Stars and Stripes Forever

I saw The Stars and Stripes Forever show up in the New Page Reviewer log, and saw that you had been moving it and its disambiguation around earlier today. Just out of curiosity, could you explain what was going on with it and what you did? I've already marked it as reviewed, I just am wondering what was going on. Thanks, Bensci54 (talk) 17:55, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bensci54: Thanks for marking it as reviewed. It needed a history merge mostly because of this cut-and-paste move. Graham87 (talk) 01:17, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Coronary Stenting and the DES Pages - A merger proposal.

Both articles are now about cardiac stenting - and PCI. I took the DES article on as a personal project and it has been fleshed out to include PCI and I have also attempted to follow best practices in the layout and structure for a GA type of article.

I am exploring how to merge the articles, they are so very similar but the DES article is I think a child of the CS article.

Just testing the waters - I think they can be rolled into one document - within the GA framework as described on the DES article tp.

Your name was on one or the other articles , and you are an experienced editor - so just politely reaching out.

Thoughts, ideas, how to?

Kind regards - Dr. BeingObjective (talk) 14:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BeingObjective: I have no idea because I know nothing about this topic. Asking random editors who've only made minor edits on their user talk pages, as you've done a few times, is borderline disruptive. I've never made any edits to the Percutaneous coronary intervention or Drug-eluting stent pages and my last edit to the Coronary stent page was in 2019, but I've edited the Coronary artery bypass surgery page recently. You also formatted your message in a highly non-standard way, leading me to initially reply in the wrong place. In particular, though it's not relevant to this page, any level two sections without signatures (as you generated in your edit to me) will not be archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. Graham87 (talk) 15:44, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fully understood Graham. I will leave you in peace.

Yup - BeingObjective (talk) 16:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Godfrey

Hi Graham87, I just came across a mass deletion of maintenance templates here, and noted that you've had a long term interest in attempting to keep the bio in order. Frankly, I think there are too many sectional templates, but the content in question is controversial and has been there a long time, and it wouldn't hurt to start culling the unsourced stuff. But there's so much. If I take a scalpel to the article, the edits may be misinterpreted as disruptive. Any thoughts you have will be greatly appreciated. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:39, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I actually know almost nothing about Arthur Godfrey; the fact that his article is on my watchlist is just a holdover from my early days of editing Wikipedia when I'd watch any page that vaguely interested me and when Wikipedia didn't insist that content be referenced to inline citations. I took most of those pages off my watchlist but kept Godfrey's on there because of this. It turns out most of the current content was added a few days after I started editing the page. I don't believe in deleting old content like this just because it's unsourced ... but if it's problematic in other ways, go ahead and remove it. Or if a coherent article can still be made strictly using sourced content, that works too ... Graham87 (talk) 04:06, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I get it. I have no agenda there, just noticing that a lot of the content has been unsourced for more than a decade, and reads like a show business gossip/narrative ("Behind the scenes." "The firings continue"--really? For an encyclopedia?). Even if the La Rosa section were adequately sourced it looks WP:UNDUE. At any rate, I may bring this to the article talk page, or ping a couple of other veterans who are good with this sort of thing. Thanks for replying, and cheers, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:34, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK that works. I've read the text far too much to really be able to evaluate it objectively ... fresh perspectives are always good. Graham87 (talk) 04:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Help with finding ways for blind people to contribute

Hello. I am Nikos Likomitros, one of the main members in the Greek community. I am planning, and had a meeting for this yesterday, to do an outreach activity for blind people in Greece, the first of it's kind in Greece. However, one of the things that they asked me, and insisted, both sighted and blind people that were there, was how Wikipedia editing is accessible for blind people. I hope you can provide me help with this, as an expert on this field.

I admire you greatly for what you have been doing years now in Wikimedia projects. NikosLikomitros (talk) 13:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@NikosLikomitros: Thanks very much for the kind words. There are some tips for getting started for blind editors at m:WikiBlind User Group, though the group itself is relatively dormant, which you can adapt to the Greek Wikipedia. In particular, the CAPTCHA for creating an account would be a major problem (but you or another admin could help them bypass that ... be sure to give them the confirmed user right so they don't get the CAPTCHA in their initial edits. Graham87 (talk) 14:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You worth it. Would you suggest me any tools for this? Or methods? NikosLikomitros (talk) 17:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December music

Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl (mentioned in November) said something wise on Copland's talk. Thank you for the news about your trip, - I was travelling myself, and slow to respond. - The December image is as bright as can be, a tree in interesting shapes of frost needles, in sunshine against a sky that is partly cloudy, bottom left, but mostly deep blue. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 I admire you greatly for what you have been doing years now in Wikimedia projects. [[User:NikosLikomitros|NikosLikomitros]] ([[User talk:NikosLikomitros|talk]]) 13:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 :{{replyto|NikosLikomitros}} Thanks very much for the kind words. There are some tips for getting started for blind editors at [[m:WikiBlind User Group]], though the group itself is relatively dormant, which you can adapt to the Greek Wikipedia. In particular, the CAPTCHA for creating an account would be a major problem (but you or another admin could help them bypass that ... be sure to give them the confirmed user right so they don't get the CAPTCHA in their initial edits. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87#top|talk]]) 14:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
+::You worth it. Would you suggest me any tools for this? Or methods? [[User:NikosLikomitros|NikosLikomitros]] ([[User talk:NikosLikomitros|talk]]) 17:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 == December music ==