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::I know. I just thought asking my questions up front might help more than waiting until you'd be done. Also, if you do have on-line resources in English, French, German, Italian, or Spanish, I could help, too. However, I can't read Asian languages :-( [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 13:32, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
::I know. I just thought asking my questions up front might help more than waiting until you'd be done. Also, if you do have on-line resources in English, French, German, Italian, or Spanish, I could help, too. However, I can't read Asian languages :-( [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 13:32, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

::As it is, lots of people are interested in other topics, like anime and technology staff, that there are many site with those informations. But I haven't seen a site that has a detailed information on even a modern Japanese kitchen. There is a Japaese saying that "A kitchen is a woman's castle" and it seems no one had ever even tried going inside it. A Japanese kitchen outwardly resembles an American or Europian kitchen so people probably said, "Oh, the only difference is the rice cooker." and forgot about it.

::Well, even anime and manga is actually helpful in studying Japanese kitchens. If you had a friend who is an anime otaku, ask him to let you see several anime like [[Doraemon]], [[Sazaesan]], and [[Card Captor Sakura]] where average Japanese homes can be seen and check when they were released. Changes are very intersting. [[User:Revth|Revth]] 16:29, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)


:On the how this article should be named, do change it to something more in line with other articles. I had planned on the original title as only a temporary one. [[User:Revth|Revth]] 13:28, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
:On the how this article should be named, do change it to something more in line with other articles. I had planned on the original title as only a temporary one. [[User:Revth|Revth]] 13:28, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:29, 22 July 2004

Revth, I realize that this is work in progress. Nevertheless, some questions and suggestions:

  1. The sayings should probably go into their own section. I find mentioning them in the introductory paragraph a bit distracting.
I think it's needed there as it seems from materials I collected to write this article that both "Kamado" and "Daidokoro" was used together right up to Meiji and sometime after that. Still writing so I might move it down. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. Can the timing be made a bit more precise? The Jomon period is pretty large... And can we put some rough year indications after all the Japanese periods, please? For someone (like me) who doesn't know what timespan these periods encompass the text doesn't give a clear idea of when which developments occurred.
Done. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. "As the stoves became more sophisticated..." leaves me wondering in what way they did become more sophisticated.
It should have been "safer" and now it is. I'm looking for a picture or a drawing that I can add to better explain that. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. Did I get the Asaido description right? It seems to me that it's some kind of early biological filter, and that water had to flow through it in order to get filtered.
"Water flowed onto an asaido from nearby spring" is how I belive it was so that is probably correct. The problem is, I have never seen an Asaido myself even in a drawing and not exactly sure what that is. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. What do you mean by the "fringe" of a Kakekanahe? Were these somehow hung into holes? Is "fringe" actually the right word, or did you mean a "rim"?
It may be a "rim". Well, imagine a saucer type UFO and the bottome of a "Kakekanahe" is shaped like that. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. What is a Takigi?
The description was added, and I think I will later move this list into something like "List of Historic Cooking Tools" because I think this is not exactly about the kitchen. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. Are you going to cover different kitchen styles? Such as e.g. a hashiri moto in a Kyoto machiya? The fact that part of the corridor serves as a kitchen appears quite noteworthy to me. (Yes, I realize that this is a later period than what you've covered so far.)
Yes, it will come just after what I wrote today. Revth 15:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  1. The naming of the article is a bit non-standard (missing blank). How about moving it to Kitchen (Japan) or even Japanese kitchen?

Lupo 13:00, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

This is in a very rough draft and I'm not exactly sure how each facts should be stated or even presented yet. Informations will be added and they would be reorganized. So please wait a little bit more ;) Revth 13:25, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I know. I just thought asking my questions up front might help more than waiting until you'd be done. Also, if you do have on-line resources in English, French, German, Italian, or Spanish, I could help, too. However, I can't read Asian languages :-( Lupo 13:32, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
As it is, lots of people are interested in other topics, like anime and technology staff, that there are many site with those informations. But I haven't seen a site that has a detailed information on even a modern Japanese kitchen. There is a Japaese saying that "A kitchen is a woman's castle" and it seems no one had ever even tried going inside it. A Japanese kitchen outwardly resembles an American or Europian kitchen so people probably said, "Oh, the only difference is the rice cooker." and forgot about it.
Well, even anime and manga is actually helpful in studying Japanese kitchens. If you had a friend who is an anime otaku, ask him to let you see several anime like Doraemon, Sazaesan, and Card Captor Sakura where average Japanese homes can be seen and check when they were released. Changes are very intersting. Revth 16:29, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
On the how this article should be named, do change it to something more in line with other articles. I had planned on the original title as only a temporary one. Revth 13:28, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Ok. Moved it to Japanese kitchen, with both the aforementioned links as redirects. Lupo 14:08, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thanks! But I was really surprised to see the redirect when I hit the save page button :) Revth 15:05, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)