Talk:John the Baptist

John the Baptist did not die in 36.

I have changed it to something else, if you disagree, go ahead and revert, but please explain to me how a possible range for John the Baptist's death is 36, which is a couple of years after Jesus' death? Fringe theory, no?

It is not a "fringe theory" as both International Review of Biblical Studies Brill Academic and Encyclopædia Britannica online meet the Wikipedia:Reliable sources requirements. Ironically, the Chronology of Jesus article has far better references for its AD 30 and AD 36 range (4 references) than the Jesus Christ article itself (one reference)--174.99.238.22 (talk) 22:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Direct descendant of Samuel

Yes, that Samuel, who annointed Saul, David, and who knows what. Luke 1.5 says: "There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zechariah, of the course of Abia". I've mapped the whole bloody genealogy of the whole bloody Bible, and guess what. There is only 1 abia, and of significance. So this instead being some random throwaway line is actualy making the connection between Samuel and John the Baptiast, re-creating the annointing of David for Jesus, of course on the sidenote proving the Bible is entirely fictional. And yes, if you use this tidbit, you have to reference ME now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB88:370C:1480:5523:7C6:8948:49D (talk) 19:13, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Mark does connect John to Elijah

John’s camel hair clothing and leather belt are specifically included in Mark 1:6 to show him as the successor to Elijah, who wore the same garb in 2 Kings 1:18. We should correct the sentence that states Mark is silent on the parallel. Assuming the relevant passages are a sufficient source? 2603:8080:1601:7D90:F127:E09:131C:761E (talk) 18:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

John the Baptist born November 12, 7 BC & died 27 AD

I tweaked the article to... John the Baptist "b. Nov. 12, 7 BC/12.11.747 AUC/20 Heshvan 3755 HC}}<ref]Luke 1:36 indicates that John was born about six months before Jesus b. April 17, 6 BC/17.4.748 AUC/29 Nisan 3755 HC, L. Morris, "John The Baptist", ed. Geoffrey W Bromiley, The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Revised (Wm. B. Eerdmans, 1938–1958), 1108, M. Molnar, "The Star of Bethlehem: The Legcy of the Magi, 1999</ref]... d. 27 AD". 2601:583:681:8430:642C:408:6DD0:D00F (talk) 14:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

That is only one source. Other sources suggest far later dates for John the Baptist's death. Besides a 27 AD death date would have made it impossible for John the Baptist to have been alive in "the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar" (Luke 3:1) which is 29 or 30 AD.--174.99.238.22 (talk) 03:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes: it is ridiculous to give firm and precise dates for either. Johnbod (talk) 18:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

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John the Baptist is not related to islam and the prophet jousph son of Jacob is a completely deferent issue 102.61.195.131 (talk) 19:47, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Understanding Jesus’ Saying Related to John the Baptist Logically

I have failed finding a source which explains logically (based on human’s logic) the very clear saying of Jesus {Matthew 11:11} “Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.”

Please correct me if the way I understood this saying is not logical. It happened that I used to be a rational independent man since I was teen (when I realized my independent existence). I am 74 now. I mean; for my own knowledge only, I used to look for the natural truths, scientific if related to the material world (limited by time and space) and personal if related to the spiritual realm (not limited by time-space). By doing this, I was able not to see a naive confused man whenever I look at a mirror.

Jesus, in this saying, confirmed clearly that John the Baptist is the greatest Jewish Prophet. But what was the main mission of this greatest Prophet? It was to prepare the Jewish people for the arrival of Jesus among them. This implies that the main mission of all previous Jewish Prophets cannot be greater than of John the Baptist (always based on this saying). And, at the arrival of Jesus, this mission was fulfilled for good, right? Therefore, the Jewish teachings became, after Jesus’ arrival, much like the school teachings without which one couldn’t continue to join a university and be professional in a certain field. And, at best, his schoolbooks join his good souvenirs since he, the professional, can no longer see them as scientific references at work. By the way, some school teachings had to be made ‘incomplete’, if not ‘wrong’, to help the kids learn science in steps (on request, many examples could be presented). Also, Judaism, inspired from Heaven, was very important though for the ancient ‘kids of humanity’ only (our past ancestors). In fact, Jesus message that focuses on God’s Unconditional Love towards all others, good and evil, updated the Jewish teachings and let most of them be irrelevant, if not obsolete (this is also clear in some other Jesus’ sayings).

I am afraid that, in general, saying a truth hurts some people in the least. But I have no intention to hurt anyone’s feelings. So, I understand fully if this truth should also be hidden (removed from this page). After all, “When in Rome, do what the Romans do”. KerimF (talk) 09:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

"There hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist" does not mean "the greatest." While it certainly means there was no one greater, it also means that he was the equal of the greatest (if you are doing comparisons). Darlig 🎸 ^{Talk to me} 22:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)