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Question from Dman1423 (23:13, 24 October 2024)

i hate isochrone --Dman1423 (talk) 23:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dman1423. Please only use the "ask a question" feature to ask questions. Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Quick favor to ask

Hello, I saw you on the list of recently active admins. Would you mind handling an edit request? I'd like to get this process started before the demands of life steal me away from wikipedia. GrayStorm(Complaints Dept.|My Contribs.) 04:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GrayStorm: I have tagged the page. Please create the MFD page shortly :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Ironically, I had to step away from my computer for a few minutes after that. Funny how life is sometimes :) GrayStorm(Complaints Dept.|My Contribs.) 04:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adamantine topic ban

Hi HouseBlaster. Just a heads up that sanctions can be appealed anytime at AN (not just after six months). Assuming that this was a sanction under WP:CASTE, you should probably also log it there. RegentsPark (comment) 16:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it is a community sanction, rather than a purely admin-imposed sanction thus it can be placed only at WP:EDRC which was already done by HouseBlaster. Dympies (talk) 16:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will correct the record regarding appeal time – thank you! I do not think this is a WP:CASTE sanction (even though it covers the same thing). Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:28, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category for Discussion :American people who self-identify as being of Native American descent

Hi there,

I saw the discussion at Categories for Discussion regarding "American People Who Self-identify as being of Native American Descent" was just closed.

It looks like people were still voting at the time the discussion was closed as no consensus. I think relisting it again would likely create clearer consensus. Would you consider reopening the discussion? Whitewolfdog1 (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Whitewolfdog1! I am not going to relist that discussion. It was already relisted twice, and per WP:RELIST In general, a discussion should not be relisted more than twice. Discussions on Wikipedia usually last a week; this one was open for a month. People had enough time to weigh in. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't mention WP:NONDEF, which is relevant in this instance because most of those added to this category (and its subcategories) neither mention this in their ledes or verify that there's no evidence for their heritage. And WP: ABOUTSELF would surely justify the generic "American people of Native American heritage" instead? Because the "self-ID" categories themselves state that this is for people who can't prove they're NA (which I doubt most subjects have said about themselves).
You also ignored the stronger issues of WP:CATV and WP:POVCAT. Was there any reason you missed those arguments out?
Despite more policy-based arguments supporting deletion, your "no consensus" close serves the purpose of siding with the less policy based (and fewer) !votes to keep the category.
There's simply no way to verify the majority of subjects in the way this category demands that isn't WP:OR, because most RSes don't discuss this issue in a way that's defining, verifiable and notable for the individuals themselves. There's also a risk this becomes a stick for people to beat others with, or to push a POV about persons they dislike.
The category itself is inherently non-neutral, much like "trans-identified male" and similar terms. See WP:SCAREQUOTES and WP:QUOTEPOV, which explain that there are multiple ways to distance from a claim in a way that raises suspicion about the person making it, and that these can make those statements not neutral. For BLPs, this is particularly problematic. Lewisguile (talk) 19:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The point of a close is to summarize the key points of a discussion, not every argument that was made. The BLP argument was by far the most common thing mentioned by supporters of deleting the category, so that is what I focused on in the closing statement.

As for the other PAGs you cite: The defining argument was rebutted by Yuchitown. That is evidence the intersection is defining – and that would need to be rebutted. To make a successful WP:CATV argument for deletion (and not merely purging), you need to show that it is impossible to source. No such showing was made. (And nobody made a CATV argument for purging.) If a particular article should not belong in the category, that is not a reason to delete the entire tree. Finally, WP:POVCAT: A good deal of editors think that there is nothing negative about self-ID. There wasn't really any PAGs to go off of when making the determination about which side of the neutrality question is stronger. Taken together, I closed it as no consensus.

Obviously, you disagree with that assessment. You have my blessing to take this to WP:DRV; I will not be overturning my close. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, apologies if my prior message came off blunt—it was late and on a re-read, I think it could be read as more direct than I wanted it to be.
As for WP:CATV, this was raised as an issue in the discussions. If the category were purged, it would be eligible for speedy deletion anyway; if most things in the category fail WP:CATV, then the category is dubious at best and that's another argument for just deleting it.
However, I can see we're not going to agree here so I will hop on over to the deletion review thread and add my thoughts there instead. Have a good weekend. Lewisguile (talk) 09:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I requested deletion review linked below. Whitewolfdog1 (talk) 22:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closure in the archives

Hi HB. I appreciate your diligence in making this closure, but I believe it may have been a misreading of consensus. That discussion is marked by a total absence of uninvolved input; every last !vote is from people involved in the same disputes, with positions based on whether they agree or disagree with Adamantine123. I don't think that is sufficient basis for a community sanction. I believe letting the thread die is the better course - a more structured complaint can always be brought to AE, as the dispute is within a CT. Failing that, I believe "no consensus" is the appropriate outcome, or possibly resuscitating the thread for more input. Are you open to revisiting this? For the record, I've been in several disputes with people who !voted on either side of that, but I'm not involved on the caste dispute specifically or - I believe - with respect to Adamantine123. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[Acknowledging I have seen this; I have to go pick up a family member momentarily, and will respond in full in within ~2 hours.] HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This made absolutely zero sense. There was a clear cut consensus to topic ban Adamantine123 for his misconduct and the proposal stayed there long enough for the community to judge whether the proposal is correct or wrong. Most editors who participated in the thread never interacted with Adamantine123. It is also senseless to imagine that anyone was supposed to be going to WP:ARE over Adamantine's misconduct on ANI given such reports are rejected elsewhere per forum shopping.Dympies (talk) 18:25, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Vanamonde93. I closed the thread after a request at WP:CR (which I now see was filed by the person who opened the thread). I would be happy to re-list the discussion for further input from outside voices. (And apologies for the delay in responding.) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, a relisting would be much appreciated. I will endeavor to provide some input - I think that would only be fair. No apologies required. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Repetition of the same POV-pushing in the same caste article by User:Dympies for which they were topic banned. HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Category:American people who self-identify as being of Native American descent

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:American people who self-identify as being of Native American descent. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Whitewolfdog1 (talk) 22:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Eisenheim10 (07:31, 27 October 2024)

Hello HouseBlaster, i’m here to learn new things, thank you for being my mentor. --Eisenheim10 (talk) 07:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Eisenheim10! Let me know if you need any help, and I will be more than happy to assist :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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--Aneesjameel (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Aneesjameel! Do you have any questions about editing Wikipedia? HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Unless you sent me a second email, I responded earlier, HistoryofIran. Still am not planning to take action until the matter is resolved. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ops, it went under spam, my bad. Bit ironic since I used to advise loads of customers to be aware of that during my time in customer service. Best. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories to be merged

Regarding this Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_17#Category:Ugandan_dermatologists. Who actually merges the cats (and deletes the old cats)? LibStar (talk) 23:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LibStar! It appears I forgot to list that discussion at WP:CFDW. I will do so now. Thanks for the reminder :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. LibStar (talk) 23:43, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the drive!

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Fix a random page lacking sources

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Question from Kristi Rock (16:02, 2 November 2024)

Hello there! I am trying to write an article or bio about a family friend and I am a little confused. I start the page on my user page correct under write an article where the cursor blinks? It tells you to start in "the box", is this the box? Then it tells me to name in article and makes it sound as if I am suppose to change my user name? Any help is greatly appreciated. --Kristi Rock (talk) 16:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page is located at User:Kristi Rock, not User:Joseph Lee Lambert. However, because this person is a family friend, you have a conflict of interest. You need to follow the steps to disclose your conflict of interest. And, if we are being honest, most editors (myself included) would recommend that you find something else to edit about. Conflict of interest editing is a very big problem on Wikipedia, and we spend untold hours cleaning up after such editors. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Lokpali (18:26, 3 November 2024)

Hello,

When will the pages I created be patrolled? I created many pages but only 1 is patrolled. --Lokpali (talk) 18:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Lokpali! There is a very large backlog of pages needing to be patrolled; there is no specific order in which pages are reviewed. You can read more about the process at WP:NPP, but many articles take months to get reviewed. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:35, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from HomelessProphet1929 (04:17, 4 November 2024)

How do I add an info box, like the ones in the articles for countries? Thanks. --HomelessProphet1929 (talk) 04:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HomelessProphet1929: using the visual editor, you can follow the directions at Help:VisualEditor#Editing templates (infoboxes are templates). Let me know if you need help choosing which infobox template to use! Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Force-feeding victims

Hey, HouseBlaster,

I was going to tag this category CSD C1 but, within seconds, you filled it with articles. How did you categorize these articles so fast? I assume you used some editing tool or was it a template you used? Always curious on how to edit more efficiently. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 02:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz! I used Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot to facilitate the move from Category:Force-feeding to the people category. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, HouseBlaster. I've looked at Cat-a-lot several times over the years I've been editing but I found it too complicated to jump into. But I assume that this is also how some CFD closures are handled that aren't handled by a bot? Maybe I'll spend the time this week trying to figure it out. I've never gotten the hang of AWB either. Liz Read! Talk! 03:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is how I do most CFD closes which do not need the bot (usually because you only need to merge some entries). I found it fairly easy to learn; the documentation at Commons is really helpful. It can be a little buggy at times (it was built to handle files), but it gets the job done the vast majority of the time. I am happy to help with questions if you have them :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I've contributed to tagging a lot of buildings into the demolition category on the understanding they were deliberately demolished. I completely disagree with the consensus that was reached at that discussion, but now it's closed, I'm one user and am unable to overturn it on my own. My suggestion would be to have a category for buildings that were demolished and another for buildings that were destroyed. I only noticed because of my watch list.

What do you recommend here? Could I start a new CfD? SportingFlyer T·C 05:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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