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==Vraag==
waar kan ik iets vinden over hoofdlettergebruik van de labels/titels? M.a.w. moet de term van b.v. 'land' (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6256) met hoofdletter of niet. Ik ging twijfelen en corrigeren omdat ik op (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55) las onder Verklaringen: ''Nederland is een Land in Europa''.

De korte beschrijving onder de titel moet zonder hoofdletter, dat is me wel duidelijk. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 14:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

:Hoi Michiel1972, zover ik weet hebben we hier op Wikidata daar niet echt een regel voor en is die er ook niet geweest sinds het begin van Wikidata. Je hebt natuurlijk wel talen zoals het Duits waar men ander hoofdlettergebruik heeft. Ik doe meestal als titel bij de eigenschappen zonder hoofdletters en de gewone items met hoofdletter. Met vriendelijke groet, '''[[User:Wiki13|<span style="color:#1E90FF; font-family:Arial">Wiki</span><span style="color:orange">13</span>]]''' <small><sub>[[User talk:Wiki13|<span style="color:#1E90FF">'''talk'''</span>]]</sub></small> 16:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Echt waardeloos dat al die termen met hoofdletters zijn geimporteerd, kan er geen bot draaien die op basis van de Engelse titel (eerste letter label) de Nederlandse titel eventueel aanpast zonder hoofdletter? Het staat allemaal erg slordig nu bij de 'Verklaringen'. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 18:13, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
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== Bot ==

Hallo Michiel,

ik heb [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1229&diff=14843565&oldid=11418688 dit] ongedaan gemaakt. Kan je ajb nakijken wat is misgegaan. Groeten uit Delft.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 06:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:Hoi, wat is er mis mee dan ?  De titel 'Don' behoeft een uitleg (description) vanwege de meerdere betekenissen. [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ([[User talk:RobotMichiel1972|talk]]) 07:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Don is een rivier, en Rusland is een land. Don is dus geen Rusland. In Rusland zijn meerdere Dons (deze is her verst meest belangrijk, maar toch). Er zijn ook andere riviers Don die zich niet in Rusland bevinden. Ik denk als je niet kan automatisch toevoegen "Rivier in Rusland", dan is dat best gewoon later handmatig doen.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 07:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
::: Uiteraard zijn uitgebreide (hand- /botmatige) beschrijvingen aan te bevelen, maar ik ben vooralsnog blij als elk item met meerdere betekenissen iets van een disamb beschrijving heeft om de zoekfunctie en andere wikidata toepassingen te vergemakkelijken. Nu heeft (had) vrijwel geen enkel item (met meerdere betekenissen) een toelichting.  Een uitgebreide beschrijving "een rivier in Rusland" is het doel, een eerste hint 'Rusland' een start. [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ([[User talk:RobotMichiel1972|talk]]) 19:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Vervangen van bestaande beschrijvingen ==

Hoi Michiel1972, ik kwam [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2673754&diff=prev&oldid=15372778 deze], [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q171206&diff=prev&oldid=15372737 deze] en  [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1814464&diff=prev&oldid=15404426 deze] bewerking tegen die RobotMichiel1972 heeft gemaakt. In alledrie de gevallen overschrijft je bot een bestaande omschrijvingswaarde. Dat is natuurlijk prima als het om verbeteringen gaat, maar dat lijkt me in genoemde voorbeelden toch niet het geval. Misschien is het dus verstandig je bot te leren om bestaande omschrijvingen over te slaan. Met vriendelijke groet, [[User:NormanB|NormanB]] ([[User talk:NormanB|talk]]) 22:26, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
:Vreemd, niet eerder gebeurt en uiteraard niet de bedoeling. Ik check er wel op namelijk. Ik ga even checken. [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ([[User talk:RobotMichiel1972|talk]]) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
::Fout gevonden. Dit overschrijven gebeurde alleen indien alleen een nl.wiki link aanwezig was en geen anderstalige iw. Gecorrigeerd. [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ([[User talk:RobotMichiel1972|talk]]) 22:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Super, thanks voor de snelle aktie. Hopelijk had je bot nog niet teveel "schade" aangericht. Kun je op een of andere manier nagaan of dat het geval is en dat zo nodig herstellen? Dat zou mooi zijn. Groeten, [[User:NormanB|NormanB]] ([[User talk:NormanB|talk]]) 02:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
::::[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property%3AP373&diff=18202576&oldid=18193192 Hier] gaat ook wat fout. Zou je trouwens niet je bot account willen gebruiken voor reacties? [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|talk]]) 20:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::Dat is geen fout, ik probeer consequent alle beschrijvingen zonder een hoofdletter aan te maken cq te corrigeren. Het was in dit geval een handmatige edit. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 21:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

== Bot edits ==

Hello, I have seen several times edits from [[ ‎RobotMichiel1972]] that do not seem to be bot-edits. To keep things clear,, could you use your normal account to make human edits ? Thanks. --[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|talk]]) 08:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

== Bot change of labels ==

Hi, please check your bot's code because it is changing labels incorrectly such as [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5064728&curid=4839942&diff=20231800&oldid=18501807 here]. Thanks, --[[User:Mark91|<span style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:blue">Mark91</span>]]'''''<small>[[User talk: Mark91|<span style="color:black;">it's my world</span>]]</small>''''' 08:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

== Bot Speed ==

Could you pleas look at [[Wikidata talk:Bots#Bot speed]] and maybe change your bot so it only makes one edit per second (60 edits/minute). --[[User:Sk!d|Sk!d]] ([[User talk:Sk!d|talk]]) 21:17, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I will try limit the number of edits to that rate. However I only operate my bot while I am online, so 12 hrs  a day. [[Special:Contributions/145.53.76.181|145.53.76.181]] 21:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you. There is also a new imitative to stop all bots until delay is to 0. See [[Wikidata_talk:Bots#bot_moratorium]] --[[User:Sk!d|Sk!d]] ([[User talk:Sk!d|talk]]) 20:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Oh..I just read this after stopped the bot for the night and restarted some jobs this morning.. Will stop soon again. [[Special:Contributions/139.63.60.122|139.63.60.122]] 08:54, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

== "Dutch" label when there is no Dutch article ==

Hi, could you perhaps have a look at [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4782796&curid=4570191&diff=26684490&oldid=16241694 this edit]? The bot adds a Dutch label, but there is no dutch article at all... Thanks. --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 12:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:yes I know, that is also what I want. A Dutch label is missing so I add one for pages I am sure the label name is identical to the English and German label. See also [[Help_talk:Label#No_page_in_English]]. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 13:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

==A new bot list==
Hi there! Per a request I have been working on a new informative bot list (that has secretly been hidden under the current list at [[Wikidata:List_of_bots]]. I think I am finished and it would be great if every botop (including you) could add your bot to the new list. I have added Addbot already and tried to make the template simple! Goodluck and if you have any problems get in touch on my talk page! '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">·Add§hore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="color:black;">T<small>alk</small> T<small>o</small> M<small>e</small>!</span>]]</sup> 20:21, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

== instance of -> subclass of ==

Hi Michiel, I notice your bot has been adding lots of claims involving the 'instance of' property (P31).  I figured I would point out [[Help:Basic membership properties]], which explains the difference between 'instance of' and the related 'subclass of' (P279) property.  

For example, the subject [[Q14931|hot water storage tank]] refers to a ''class'' of items, rather than an ''instance'' of a particular item, so the claim "hot water storage tank ''subclass of'' home appliance" is more correct than the claim ""hot water storage tank ''instance of'' home appliance".  An instance of a hot water storage tank would be the particular tank in your house that heats the water you yourself use -- the Wikipedia article covers all instances of hot water storage tanks, and thus [[Q1419245]] is a class.  The examples of the [[Property_talk:P31|P31 talk page]] and [[Property_talk:P279|P279 talk page]] also show the difference between those two properties.  

Would it be possible to incorporate that distinction into your bot when adding those properties?  Best, [[User:Emw|Emw]] ([[User talk:Emw|talk]]) 23:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
:Yesterday I processed http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Huishoudelijke_apparatuur in which most items are 'instances'. But you're right, the example of  'boiler'  is indeed more a class than an instance. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 07:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

== Swedish urban areas ==

I see your bot adding P131 in Swedish urban areas. That is lovely (since I will have less to do), but in some cases I have added a second and a third municipality in that property, since some of them is located in more than one. [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3272598&curid=3122024&diff=41396259&oldid=41396145 Here for example]. My source is the Census from 2010. I do not know how or if this will affect your use of it on nlwp, so I leave you this note here. -- [[User:Lavallen|Lavallen]] ([[Special:Block/Lavallen|block]]) 16:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

== Bot removing first/second level division claims ==

hi Michael, please stop your bots removal of these claims without consensus as to how to handle admin levels.  there is ongoing discussion on the country subdivision task force about this and the task force page is requesting these claims to be added.  I would eagerly enlist your bot to fix the claims to point to a good item vs. a category, but not simply remove claims undoing other people's work.  thank you!  [[User:Joshbaumgartner|Joshbaumgartner]] ([[User talk:Joshbaumgartner|talk]]) 22:33, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
:There is a discussion about using the concept of level of administrative division, but I think there is agreement project wide that we should only add the most specific claim possible.
:By the way, there is another edit by your bot that I do not agree with: I do not think using {{Q|47168}} as a type of administrative division is really appropriate, as US states are defined at the state, not the federal level. A county of Massachusetts does not have much in common with a county of California, so using state-specific items like {{Q|13212489}} seems more accurate. --[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|talk]]) 21:06, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
::I don't think we should remove applicable administrative levels. -- [[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0">&nbsp;<font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font>&nbsp;</span>]] <small>at</small> 06:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
::Besides that, nothing in [[Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972]] seems to authorize [[Special:Contributions/RobotMichiel1972]] to do that. -- [[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0">&nbsp;<font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font>&nbsp;</span>]] <small>at</small> 06:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
First of all, I did not remove ''applicable administrative levels''. I did remove inappropriate claims for items of individual Aghanistan districts that stated that a district was of administrative type "category:administrative level x". In case the claim was not a category item I would not touch it, although even then the claim should be done at the 'district of Afghanistan' item instead of the individual districts. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 08:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
:::This is the problem I have with your bot use: you aren't fixing, you are just removing.  If you had replaced claims of "category:administrative level x" with claims of "administrative level x", I would be commending your bot.  The claims that used "category:administrative level x" were good faith attempts to add this data.  As you know, those particular items were labeled only "administrative level x", so one would not readily know they were category items.  You re-labeled them as categories, which is great, but instead of using your bot to switch existing claims over to appropriate non-category items, you simply wiped out that work.  Also, I agree with [[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0">&nbsp;<font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font>&nbsp;</span>]] regarding authorization for this activity.  [[User:Joshbaumgartner|Joshbaumgartner]] ([[User talk:Joshbaumgartner|talk]]) 09:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
:With respect to the county's I am not sure if it is needed to specify 50 items that describe different "county of <state>" and use these as administrative type claim. Why is the generic "county of the USA" not sufficient? In Wikipedia we also do not have 50 different county infoboxes for each state. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 08:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC) 
::Counties are different between US states. In some cases they have extensive political powers, in some others they are just statistical entities. In Alaska and Louisiana, they are not even called "counties" though they are otherwise equivalent to counties in other states. Arguably, counties of Calfornia are as similar to counties of Massachusetts as to counties of England. That means that many, perhaps most, statements that are valid for "county (California)" and not for "county (Massachusetts)". We have some info about that in Wikipedia "list of" pages like [[:en:List of counties in California]], but cannot use list pages this way in Wikidata.--[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|talk]]) 09:31, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
:::This i why we on svwp use the word "huvudort" as a word to describe the "capital" in the infobox of a county in USA. There is as little claims as possible related to that word, compared to "huvudstad", "centralort" and "residensstad" that also can be translated "capital" in English. -- [[User:Lavallen|Lavallen]] ([[Special:Block/Lavallen|block]]) 10:05, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

== Qualifier "voormalige" ==
Hoi Michiel, er staat me bij dat jij ook geïnteresseerd bent in historische gegevens. Als dat klopt, wil ik je graag wijzen op mijn voorstel voor een qualifier "former / ehemalige / ancien(ne) / voormalige" die ik van de week [http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Qualifiers hier] heb aangemaakt. Op dit moment staat het voorstel helemaal onderaan op die pagina. Misschien wil jij ook een bijdrage leveren aan de discussie. Met vriendelijke groet, [[User:NormanB|NormanB]] ([[User talk:NormanB|talk]]) 20:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

== Level of subdivision ==

Why have you deleted a bunch of statements about {{Q|4057633}}? You should write comments while reverting. [[User:Infovarius|Infovarius]] ([[User talk:Infovarius|talk]]) 03:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

== Geopos in Norway ==

Please do ''NOT'' use other sources than the Norwegian Bokmål or Nynorsk Wikipedias for geopositions for locations in Norway, and also check and update your previous entries. Most of those positions are from reliable sources, including Statens Kartverk and Sentralt Stedsnavnregister, and other sources are inferior. That includes Dutch Wikipedia. Thanks. [[User:Jeblad|Jeblad]] ([[User talk:Jeblad|talk]]) 17:38, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
:Well, please add them before I or another bot will import these coordinates from other sources. [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ([[User talk:RobotMichiel1972|talk]]) 17:10, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

== [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ==

Would you please update your bot to avoid adding empty "{{datatype|commonsMedia}}" statements ({{diff||53264518||example}})? They are throwing lots of errors in [[Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P18]]. Thanks in advance, --<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Ricordisamoa|<span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span>]][[User talk:Ricordisamoa|<span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span>]]</span> 06:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
: done (some weeks ago). [[Special:Contributions/139.63.60.122|139.63.60.122]] 14:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Michel1972, ik zag je bot afgelopen weken bezig met het toevoegen van NL-iw op een groot aantal diersoorten. (Goed werk) Tegelijkertijd liet je de iw's op de NL-wiki staan (bijv. ''Aedes epactius''). Is daar een redden voor?--[[User:Joopwiki|Joopwiki]] ([[User talk:Joopwiki|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
:Hoi, ik heb dacht ik alleen maar labels toegevoegd, interwiki's doe ik meestal niet (ook niet weghalen uit nl.wiki). [[Special:Contributions/139.63.60.122|139.63.60.122]] 14:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

== Removing Selca is a village ==

Hi. Your bot [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1071662&diff=next&oldid=60808623 removed the statement that Selca is a village], and I was wondering why it did that. Because it is a village (and a municipality).
: yes, this is a wrong edit. Only wanted to remove 'village' claims in combination with P132 [[Special:Contributions/139.63.60.122|139.63.60.122]] 15:00, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
The same for [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q769612&diff=prev&oldid=60808745 Pucisca being a municipality].
: in my opinion it is redundant to use P31 because it is already claimed to be a municipality using P132. [[Special:Contributions/139.63.60.122|139.63.60.122]] 15:00, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Can you please explain? --[[User:Denny|Denny]] ([[User talk:Denny|talk]]) 10:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
: I'd rather say to remove the Croatian municipality than the Municipality. This way we can ask questions like "Give me all municipalities in Europe". If you want to get the Croatian municipalities, it can be asked for all Municipalities that are in Country:Croatia. What'd you think? Also, that redundancy doesn't hurt in a system that doesn't do logical reasoning... --[[User:Denny|Denny]] ([[User talk:Denny|talk]]) 16:56, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
::That question "Give me all municipalities in Europe" can still be answered since 'Croatian municipality' is a subclass of 'municipality'. I haven been processed already many countries that way, thus by specifying the most detailed item (e.g Dutch municipality, Danish .., German .., French municipality instead of a general 'municipality' claim. [[User:RobotMichiel1972|RobotMichiel1972]] ([[User talk:RobotMichiel1972|talk]]) 17:53, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
: Hmm, OK, if this is the way it is done in many places, I'll stick to that. Thanks for explaining! --[[User:Denny|Denny]] ([[User talk:Denny|talk]]) 20:10, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

== cat subclass of a particular category ==

Hi, I saw your note on IRC. We shouldn't do what you suggested, primarily 1) because that duplicates the category structure on the local wikis for no conceivable reason, and 2) a Category:Swedish people is not a subclass of Category:People but a subclass of category. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
:yes I agree. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 09:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== Bot weirdness ==
What was your bot doing [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14405870&action=history here]? While it (you?) also the undid the edits, the order it now all messed up... &mdash;''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 16:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Please have a look at [//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2266660&diff=57742056&oldid=35285485] -- [[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0">&nbsp;<font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font>&nbsp;</span>]] <small>at</small> 12:19, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
:That was me manual editing (and reverting myself afterwards). [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 09:41, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== Duplicating coordinates ==

Please see [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q179240&diff=63775522&oldid=63775405], [http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q264778&diff=63757376&oldid=63757288]. More such errors can be found on [[Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P625#"Single value" violations]]. — [[User:Ivan A. Krestinin|Ivan A. Krestinin]] ([[User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin|talk]]) 05:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
: I do not add duplicates. This was because of coincidence of 2 differnt bots inserting at the same time instant.. :
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(huidig | vorige) 4 aug 2013 04:06‎ RobotMichiel1972 (Overleg | bijdragen)‎ . . (6.292 bytes) (+139)‎ . . (‎Referentie instellen) (ongedaan maken)
(huidig | vorige) 4 aug 2013 04:06‎ RobotMichiel1972 (Overleg | bijdragen)‎ . . (6.153 bytes) (+348)‎ . . (‎Claim aangemaakt:  Property:P625) (ongedaan maken) (opnieuw instellen)
(huidig | vorige) 4 aug 2013 04:06‎ Addbot (Overleg | bijdragen)‎ . . (5.805 bytes) (+139)‎ . . (‎Referentie instellen) (ongedaan maken) (opnieuw instellen)
(huidig | vorige) 4 aug 2013 04:06‎ Addbot (Overleg | bijdragen)‎ . . (5.666 bytes) (+382)‎ . . (‎Claim aangemaakt:  Property:P625) (ongedaan maken) (opnieuw instellen)
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:[[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|talk]]) 09:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:: RobotMichiel1972`s edit was made after Addbot. So RobotMichiel1972 does not detect edit conflict. — [[User:Ivan A. Krestinin|Ivan A. Krestinin]] ([[User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin|talk]]) 21:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

== Wikipedia/Wikimedia category ==

I know, but I use "Automatic addition" which has still Wiki''p''edia category in it. I think I can be bold and change this for the future (Wikipedia --> Wikimedia), but we also need to change (possibly by bot) the old descriptions. --[[User:Sannita|Sannita]] - <small>''[[User talk:Sannita|not just another it.wiki sysop]]''</small> 10:42, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

== Q499359 ==

I reverted your bot in {{Q|499359}}. Hammarö gemeente is located ''on'' a group of islands, it ''is'' not an island. This in the same way as the Republic of Iceland ''is'' not an island, it's a republic, a nation. -- [[User:Lavallen|Lavallen]] ([[User talk:Lavallen|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 05:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
:The Dutch wiki [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammar%C3%B6 article] contains the category 'island', (no separate article island/municipality) so that's why. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 11:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
::The Swedish article is in "Kategori:Kommuner som saknar fastland", so the sv-article tells the same thing, but it does not make it to an "instance of island(s)". -- [[User:Lavallen|Lavallen]] ([[User talk:Lavallen|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 12:29, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

== merge ==

please when you merge two item use the merge tool and check merge to lowes item and request for deletion, thanks --[[User:Rippitippi|Rippitippi]] ([[User talk:Rippitippi|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 21:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

== NTA and VLACC authority control proposals ==

Hi! I could see that you are a user from nl.Wikipedia. Can you please support the following proposals:
# [[Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control#NTA]]
# [[Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control#VLACC]]
# others (if interested)
Can you please post in the nl.Wikipedia community portal / chat about these proposals?<br />

Thanks in advance! Regards [[User:לערי ריינהארט|לערי ריינהארט]] ([[User talk:לערי ריינהארט|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 14:41, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

== Streepje ==

Beste Michiel,

Op 24 september heb je de naam van het item [[Q14204246]] gewijzigd van "Wikimedia-projectpagina" in "Wikimedia projectpagina". Ik vraag me af waarom je een juiste spelling hebt vervangen door een onjuiste. In het Nederlands worden samenstellingen aan elkaar geschreven, al dan niet met koppelstreepje. Dit geldt ook als een van de elementen van de samenstelling een naam is. Bovendien vraag ik me af waarom je de voorbeelden hebt geschrapt, de beschrijvingen in het Engels, Frans en Russisch hebben die voorbeelden immers ook. Groeten, [[User:Bever|Bever]] ([[User talk:Bever|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 00:49, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
:geen problemen met een tussenstreepje, maar op soortgelijke pagina's werd de wijziging niet doorgevoerd. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 08:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Bot ==

Your bot [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3025367&diff=85101920&oldid=71826565 adds] a link to the [[Q299262|disambiguation page]]. Correct, please. --[[User:Art-top|Art-top]] ([[User talk:Art-top|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 08:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
* I corrected it. Thank you. --[[User:Art-top|Art-top]] ([[User talk:Art-top|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
**It was a disamb page due to the entry in the French wikipedia the bot was processing. Sorry. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 08:46, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Aansluitingen en coordinaten ==

Hallo Michiel, sinds kort hebben wij op de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Coördinaten_niet_op_Wikidata deze categorie]. Zoals je ziet zijn het gelijk veel aansluitingen aan het begin van de lijst. Is het mogelijk om deze te importeren? Alvast bedankt, [[User:Sjoerddebruin|<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" color="#325186">'''Sjoerd de Bruin'''</font>]] [[User talk:Sjoerddebruin|<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" color="#325186"><small>(talk)</small></font>]]  20:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
:Veel van die artikelen in deze categorie hebben geen wikidata-pagina, zie bv https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aansluiting_Deutsch_Evem&action=info
::Hm, jammer. Hopelijk gaat iemand die ook importeren... [[User:Sjoerddebruin|<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" color="#325186">'''Sjoerd de Bruin'''</font>]] [[User talk:Sjoerddebruin|<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" color="#325186"><small>(talk)</small></font>]]  20:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Als het goed is hebben ze nu allemaal een item. Zou je ze kunnen importeren? [[User:Sjoerddebruin|<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" color="#325186">'''Sjoerd de Bruin'''</font>]] [[User talk:Sjoerddebruin|<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" color="#325186"><small>(talk)</small></font>]]  19:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

=={{p|1134}}==

The property that you asked is done. --[[User:Fralambert|Fralambert]] ([[User talk:Fralambert|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 03:22, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 10:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

== P81 ==

Regarding your opinion on P81:
:If that is the case, what would connecting line (P81) be used as a qualifier for? (edit: Ah, I see, it will be used for {{P|197}};also see below)
:I had not known of the usage of part of {{P|361}} in my short duration here, so forgive me if that is the norm. However, while part of {{P|361}} can be used for many purposes beyond the field of railways, connecting line {{P|81}} seems to be more specific, and seems to be created expressly for usage within the railway community. I had also actually intended for the usage of part of {{P|361}} with regard to a sub-section of a main line (such as Tōkaidō Line (JR East) being a part of Tōkaidō Main Line, as specified in the Japanese Wikipedia); precedent to that, "instance of" was used. --Wanderer28 (talk) 12:40, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
::I've thought this over, and concluded that there is indeed not much problem with using part of {{P|361}} either. connecting line {{P|81}}, I assume, would be used as a qualifier for adjacent station {{P|197}}, though I find it weird if we were to use connecting line {{P|81}} only for qualifier when it's placed in the Railways section of the List of Properties (but that's my personal opinion). --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 09:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I don't mind changing, but a with a little searching I found that {{P|81}} is used in statements (rather than/along with) qualifiers in other countries such as Germany, Singapore, and Japan. Maybe we should bring this up to the Railway task force and see if they can set a standard. --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 09:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Yea, I see that for some countries P81 is not used as qualifier but as statement itself...(which is against the discussion on the talk page in my opinion)  However, I used P361 for the stations in Netherlands, France, Spain and other countries. I don't mind if you keep using P81 the way you do, but at least do not remove P361 since the statement is correct. More general rules /guidelines for the use of these properties with railway stations is desirable otherwise we will introduce duplicate statements at the end.. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 09:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::I've undid all the deletions to your statements, as far as I can remember/find in my log; if there are any more please go ahead (and apologies for not noticing those). We'll leave both on until the Railway task force has an answer on this. --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 12:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::A discussion has been started regarding this at the [[Wikidata_talk:Railways_task_force#Using "connecting line" or "part of" in statements|Railways task force]]. --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 23:55, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

== Coördinaten ==

Hallo Michiel1972, Omdat je maar weinig op nl-wiki actief bent schrijf ik maar hier. Enkele weken geleden kaartte een gebruiker op nl-wiki aan dat in een aantal coördinaten de Engelstalige labels N/E/S/W of de de afkortingen van de windrichtingen (N/O/Z/W) werden gebruikt wat niet zou kloppen. De afkortingen voor de noorderbreedte, zuiderbreedte, oosterlengte en westerlengte zijn volgens het Kadaster en enkele woordenboeken respectievelijk NB, ZB, OL en WL. Ik ben zelf door de jaren heen erg laks geweest met deze afkortingen, heb vanalles gebruikt zonder me goed te realiseren wat ik daar deed en kopieerde vooral de coördinatentool. Nu dit op nl-wiki is aangekaart, betrouwbare en zorgvuldige bronnen NB/ZB/OL/WL zie gebruiken, lijkt mij dat de meest correcte keuze. Sommige gebruikers willen echter een optie om hierop af te wijken. Tegelijkertijd met deze discussie zijn we steeds meer tot de ontdekking gekomen welke problemen Sjabloon:Coördinaten heeft en het plan is nu om dat sjabloon op de overgebleven plekken om te bouwen naar [[:nl:Sjabloon:Coor title dms]]. Het verschil daartussen is vooral dat de underscores op de meeste plekken een pipe worden en de te tonen tekst rechtsboven automatisch door het sjabloon worden ingevuld met toepassing van NB/ZB/OL/WL. Waarom schrijf ik hier nu? Je hebt ooit met een bot een grote serie van plaatsen in de Verenigde Staten aangemaakt, waarop je het verouderde sjabloon Coördinaten had ingevoegd met gebruikmaking van de labels N en W. Mijn vraag is nu, heb je doelbewust gekozen voor N en W? Of heb je maar gewoon die letters genomen zonder er echt bij stil te staan welke coördinatenlabels er gebruikt zouden moeten worden in het Nederlands taalgebied?

Ik heb voor een aantal andere gebruikers op hun artikelen het sjabloon al omgezet naar Coor title dms en het is de bedoeling dat dit voor alle andere invoegingen van het sjabloon Coördinaten ook gaat gebeuren. Mijn vraag is nu, vind je het oke als ik met mijn bot dit oude coördinatensjabloon al omzet waarbij de N en W voortaan dan getoond zullen gaan worden als NB en WL? Graag verneem ik je reactie. [[User:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[User talk:Romaine|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 15:20, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:Hoi, ik heb geen specifieke voorkeur voor het tonen van (N/O/Z/W) of (NB/ZB/OL/WL). In de onderwatercode van de sjablonen overigens wel een voorkeur voor N/E/S/W. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 10:10, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
::Ja, in de onderwatercode blijft het hetzelfde. Waar het om gaat is wat er rechtsboven getoond wordt. Vind je het goed als ik het sjabloon vast op de door jou (en jouw bot) aangemaakte artikelen ombouw en daar de standaardwaarde laat tonen rechtsbovenaan de pagina? [[User:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[User talk:Romaine|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 16:26, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Geen probleem, ga je gang. (Wanneer is de tijd rijp om de coördinaten op te halen vanuit wikidata)? [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 11:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

==template==
Hi, you should not make a claim where the Q item is a template {{Q|14336524}}, use {{Q|Q384862}}. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 11:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks, I thought {{Q|14336524}} was {{Q|Q384862}} at first. Will revise for the other stations too (So far I think only Shinjuku and another one on the Chuo Line is affected). --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 12:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

==Operator==
In my opinion operator={{Q|247782}} is an incorrect claim since the item describes a metro system and not an organization. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 12:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:Do you think I should use {{Q|1377135}} instead? I had doubts when I inputted {{Q|247782}} too. Also, any suggestions on, for consistency, a more appropriate item in place of {{Q|682894}}? --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 12:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::Scratch that, I think we can leave {{Q|682894}} as it is. Just might need to change the description for {{Q|682894}} a bit to show it's [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%8B%E9%89%84 the company's name]. --[[User:Wanderer28|Wanderer28]] ([[User talk:Wanderer28|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 12:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

== {{q|Q1972676}} ==

a list is no {{q|192110}}, see also {{q|1469799}}--[[User:Oursana|Oursana]] ([[User talk:Oursana|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 13:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:Hi, you say it is a list, but when I look at the Dutch wiki it is not a list but an article. That's why I remove the 'list'-claim. A list claim is only valid when all interwiki's do show a clear list, please not only look at en.wiki. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 13:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::Secondly, the item can be used as subclass of {{q|192110}}. Some painting articles can then have the claim {{P|31}} {{q|1972676}} - although you may have edit the label slightly (remove  'list of') [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 13:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I would separated the German Wikimedia-list. Regards--[[User:Oursana|Oursana]] ([[User talk:Oursana|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 14:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

== Q515 for French communes ==

Hi,

When and why do your robot add P31 = Q515 on french communes ? « Q515 » doesn't really exist in France and there is no clear definition. Do you plan to add {{Q|515}} on all the {{Q|484170}} ? Or just some of them ? (and which ones ?)

Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 10:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
:Hi, yes there is no clear definition of {{Q|515}} other than "permanent settlement larger than a town, generally with a population of at least tens of thousands" so for big places with more than (say 100.000) inhabitants everyone could use this statement to describe that an item is not only a municipality but also a city. Similar we could use {{Q|532}} or {{Q|3957}} or {{Q|Q896881}} or {{Q|5084}} to describe the item. But for now I do not have further bot plans to do so. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 10:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
::Ok so you put a limit at 100.000 inhabitants, why not.
::I've launched a discussion about {{Q|515}} since the french label seems wrong to me (and that's why I'm so confused). Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 11:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

== Precision of coordinates ==

Hi, could you explain algorithm used for precision calculation? For example: [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q629049&diff=62993022&oldid=51571480]. Wikipedia has coordinates [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ham,_Somme&action=edit "latitude = 49.7472, longitude = 3.0736"]. Precession 0.001 was set up by your bot. Why not 0.0001? — [[User:Ivan A. Krestinin|Ivan A. Krestinin]] ([[User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin|talk]]) 20:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
:For this example, a French commune, I would say that even 0.001 is too much precision. In almost al cases (places, municipalities, buildings) 0.001 is sufficient. Although to be certain I used 0.0001 precision for buildings/monuments. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 20:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
:: Ok, so you use fixed precision for every object class. My bot uses another approach based on number of digits. Negative side of different algorithms is problems for merge tool. The tool can not merge values imported by different bots: [[Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P625#"Single value" violations]]. So it is better use some common algorithm. Also please see idea of one user: [[Обсуждение участника:Ivan A. Krestinin/Архив#Incorrect coordinates in Spanish municipalities]]. — [[User:Ivan A. Krestinin|Ivan A. Krestinin]] ([[User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin|talk]]) 20:49, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

== Coordinates of peoples ==

Hi, please do not add coordinates to human items directly ([https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q454667&diff=142481343&oldid=131655720 edit1], [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2351869&diff=142807543&oldid=133954518 edit2]). Please use {{P|625}} as qualifier for another appropriate property, for example {{P|119}}. Also see {{tl|Constraint:Conflicts with}} on [[Property talk:P625]] for another cases. Please remove already added invalid properties. — [[User:Ivan A. Krestinin|Ivan A. Krestinin]] ([[User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin|talk]]) 17:26, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

== Coordinates of companies ==

Hi, please do not add coordinates to company items directly. Please use {{P|625}} as qualifier for another appropriate property, mostly {{P|159}}. If there is already {{P|625}} as qualifier {{P|159}}, it is not needed to add anything. Also see {{tl|Constraint:Conflicts with}} on [[Property talk:P625]] for another cases. Please remove already added invalid properties. --[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:49, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

== [[Q15727490]] ==

Just so you know, [[Q15727490|an item you created]] has been depopulated of language links. It appears the editor has, in doing so, reverted some edits you made to [[Q581641]] in February separating out article links into two items. Hope this notification helps. Cheers. [[User:Delusion23|<font color="green">'''Del</font><big><sub><font color="black">♉</font></sub></big><font color="green">sion'''</font><font color="black">'''23'''</font>]] [[User talk:Delusion23|<font color="green">(talk)</font>]] 00:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

== en label ==

Hi! https://www.wikidata.org/?diff=108785151&oldid=108785083#top makes no sense for other languages see [[:es:La Habana Vieja#Ciudades_hermanadas]]. gangLeri [[User:לערי ריינהארט|לערי ריינהארט]] ([[User talk:לערי ריינהארט|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:29, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:I did not wanted to create a seperate item "Old Havana and its Fortification System" because most of the heritage site is covered in the article "Old Havana". [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

== Adding interwiki to Wikidata via pywikipedia ==

How to add interwiki from sh wikipedia to Wikidata via pywikipedia? --'''[[User:Kolega2357|Kolega2357]] ([[User talk:Kolega2357|talk]])''' 01:17, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


== First names ==

Hello Michiel,

At [[Wikidata:Property_proposal/Person#Family_name_identical_to_this_first_name|Propery proposal]], I suggested a way to link items for first names with those for family names. It might make it easier to get this in order. I thought this might interest you. Feel free to comment there.

BTW, I added descriptions for male/female given names to a version of [[User:Jura1/autoedit.js|autoedit]]. A bit cumbersome to do this 1-by-1. Maybe later, once the general state of the items is better, we can find a way to do all 13000 items at once ;) --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 09:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

== Please don't add instance of itself ==

Hello. It seems that your bot is adding statements that an item is an instance of itself, or subclass of itself.  For example {{Q|1032264}} was set to be an instance of itself. [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1032264&diff=176227007&oldid=176224851].  Can you fix your bot to check and make sure that it is not adding an instance of or subclass of where the value is the same item?  [[User:Jefft0|Jefft0]] ([[User talk:Jefft0|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:35, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

== Tustumena ==

Yes, the location was a script error, I mismanadged my columns before transferring to QuickStatements, I'm correcting that right now. The event location should still be in the edition item, because the race changed location some years (so it should be in the principal item with qualifiers for beginning/end and in the edition items (but never have for value "Tustumena 200", I agree)).

For part of/instance of, that could work, but then how do you manage items like {{Q|18645144}}? it's not an instance of {{Q|11968958}} which isn't a class. You would use {{Q|18645144}} {{p|361}} {{Q|11968958}} {{p|31}} {{Q|649930}}?--[[User:Harmonia Amanda|Harmonia Amanda]] ([[User talk:Harmonia Amanda|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{ping|Harmonia Amanda}}. First some questions, why is {{Q|17772307}} labelled Finnmarksløpet 2012 while the interwiki goes to Finnmarksløpet 2011? Same issue for {{Q|Q18645144}}, why is it part of Finnmarksløpet 2011? Shouldn't be 2012? Anyway, the approach using 'part of' in {{Q|Q18645144}} looks correct. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
::Hmm {{Q|17772307}} was labelled correctly in French so I probably didn't see the error in english. Actually, there is no problem with {{Q|18645144}} but there is one with {{Q|11968958}} (incorrect label in english). I'll verify all english labels. I corrected yesterday the Iditarod and Yukon Quest <part of> into <instance of>. I'll verify that all went well today. Thanks! --[[User:Harmonia Amanda|Harmonia Amanda]] ([[User talk:Harmonia Amanda|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:57, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

== Schilderijen ==

Hoi Michiel1972, ik zie dat je [//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3505014&curid=3337634&diff=185124168&oldid=181314023 beschrijvingen bij schilderijen] aan het toevoegen bent. Zou je die bot eens over [//tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A3305213%5D%20AND%20NOCLAIM%5B195%5D paintings without a collection] kunnen laten draaien? Zitten een hoop false-positives in die lijst en een bot update zorgt ervoor dat die opnieuw ingelezen worden. Slaan we mooi twee vliegen in één klap. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

== Removed claim: instance of (P31): Rijksmonument (Q916333) ==

Hello, it seems that you are removing the claim: instance of (P31): Rijksmonument (Q916333) ... in many items.  Why?  The items in question that I have seen have the property P359, and [[Property_talk:P359]] clearly states that its domain are indeed ''instances'' of Rijksmonument (Q916333). For example, [[Q17293505]] and [[Q17293261]] have no other instance-of, and for example [[Q17294941]] is an instance-of a 'neck gable building', but that is a general class of building, and so it should have instance of Rijksmonument (Q916333) as well, if I understand correctly. [[User:Johansen.fred|Fred Johansen]] ([[User talk:Johansen.fred|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
:Hi, items that describe monuments should have a {{P|1435}}. The P31 should be used to indicate what type of monument (house, statue, lock, etc) it in fact is. As far is I can see this approach is followed in Canadian and France monuments also. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

::That's fine, but then there's still an inconsistency between the approach you describe, and the Domain that's given in the property (Domain: Instances of Rijksmonument (Q916333)). If you agree, I suggest that you change the [[Property talk:P359]] and then in your edit give the grounds that you have for that change. [[User:Johansen.fred|Fred Johansen]] ([[User talk:Johansen.fred|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:00, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

== Rijksmonument complex ==

Hoi Michiel1972, ik zie dat je lekker bezig bent met de Rijksmonumenten. Gebruik je een beetje recente dataset? Ik had nog een punt openstaan wat jij wellicht ook leuk vindt om te doen: Rijksmonument complexen aanmaken en deze linken met de Rijksmonumenten. Neem bijvoorbeeld {{Q|2278595}}, dat is een complex met nummertje [http://monumentenregister.cultureelerfgoed.nl/php/main.php?cAction=search&cOffset=1&cLimit=25&oOrder=ASC&cSubmit=1&sCompMonNr=339207 339207]. De bijbehorende Rijksmonumenten zouden gekoppeld moeten worden via {{P|361}} en weer terug op het complex via {{P|527}}. Veel complexen zijn nog niet aangemaakt hier op Wikidata. Zin om dit op te pakken? [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:46, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

== Bloemendaal aan zee ==
[[File:BAG_woonplaatsen_-_Gemeente_Bloemendaal.png|thumb]]
{{Q|16831671}} ligt niet in Bloemendaal aan zee, maar in Bloemendaal. Zou je dit willen aanpassen? Is waarschijnlijk met een heel setje foutgegaan. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:14, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:is ontstaan doordat BAG code 2654 in {{Q|2695652}} staat terwijl dat dus Bloemendaal moet zijn. Omdat {{Q|9908}} plaats en gemeente omschrijft is P131 als claim voldoende en zal ik P276 verwijderen. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:16, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
::Dank je! Wil het een beetje vlotten met de Rijksmonumenten? Ben een tijdje weg geweest dus ben wel benieuwd hoe het ermee staat. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:25, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

== Acteur/Actrice ==

Jij hebt bij [[Q259663|Julianne Nicholson]] met je bot de omschrijving Amerikaans acteur toegevoegd. Ze is alleen geen acteur, maar een actrice. Kan je bij het toevoegen van beschrijvingen ook op het geslacht letten, dus bij vrouwen actrice of zangeres in plaats van acteur of zanger? [[User:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[User talk:Mbch331|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:Keuze voor acteur als omschrijving is bewust gedaan. Item acteur heeft ook als label 'acteur', en de Nederlandse wikipedia categorie ook. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:12, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
::Voor categorisatie is een onderscheid tussen man en vrouw niet nodig, maar voor een vrije omschrijving wel. De baan van een vrouwelijk persoon is tenslotte niet acteur, maar actrice. (Prijzen worden ook apart uitgedeeld voor mannen en vrouwen.) [[User:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[User talk:Mbch331|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:19, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
::: Niet mee eens, zie ook het eerste voorbeeld op http://taaladvies.net/taal/advies/vraag/886/vrouwelijke_beroepsnamen/ ('' Vraag: Mag een vrouw zichzelf coördinator noemen, of is alleen coördinatrice juist? Antwoord: Beide vormen zijn mogelijk. Op dit gebied gelden geen vaste voorschriften; iedereen kan dus in principe zijn eigen voorkeur volgen''). Consequent de mannelijke benaming volgen zoals de wikipedia-categorieen leek mij het meest voor de hand liggen, en is niet onjuist om het beroep van iemand mee aan te duiden. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:31, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

== [[Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972 2]] ==

was approved.--[[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:28, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

== Please ==

Do not use {{P|276}} for street or similar is only for current position of a movable object revert your edit please --[[User:Rippitippi|Rippitippi]] ([[User talk:Rippitippi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
:Hoi Michiel, zie [[Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard#Incorrect_propriety]]. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:09, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

== De Wacht ==

Hallo Michiel, je hebt een item aangemaakt voor de straat [[Q19011490|De Wacht]]. Er is ook al een item voor [[Q2258388|de gelijknamige buurtschap]]. Deze buurtschap bestaat precies uit die ene straat. Dienen deze items dan naast elkaar te blijven bestaan? [[User:Dinsdagskind|Dinsdagskind]] ([[User talk:Dinsdagskind|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:43, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

== Bot  ==

In [[Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972 2|your bot request]] you said that would have added  {{P|31}}, {{P|131}}, {{P|281}}, {{P|625}}, but there are a lot of items without these properties. Can you check? Some example: [[Q18968450]], [[Q18968451]], [[Q18968455]]. --[[User:ValterVB|ValterVB]] ([[User talk:ValterVB|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:56, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

== Invullingen gewenst ==

Hallo Michiel1972, Ik zie dat je bot een hoop items over straten aanmaakt. Misschien was je het al van plan en is mijn bericht voorbarig, maar zou je voor alle items ook minstens voor het Engels een label kunnen invullen (is zelfde als Nederlands) en en een beschrijving kunnen invullen voor het Engels. Ik probeerde namelijk de lijst van ontbrekende labels en omschrijvingen af te werken, zowel Nederlands als Engels, maar die is overspoeld door straten zonder labels en beschrijvingen. Dank alvast! [[User:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[User talk:Romaine|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

== Empty items ==

Hey. Your bot is creating many empty items, see [[Q19322538]], [[Q19322710]], [[Q19322757]], [[Q19322714]]. Many more you find on [[User:Pasleim/Items for deletion/Almost empty]]. --[[User:Pasleim|Pasleim]] ([[User talk:Pasleim|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

== Wikinews ==

Hoi Michiel, vooralsnog alleen een vraag, ik denk dat jij het antwoord wel weet: op WikiNews staan heel veel artikelen met een bijna leeg (automatisch aangemaakt) wikidata-entry. Ik vul die nu met de hand minimalistisch aan, zodat ze 3+ properties krijgen, maar volgens mij zouden de eerste drie automatisch aangemaakt kunnen worden? Dat zou mij veel stompzinnig monnikenwerk schelen. Zie voor een voorbeeld: [[Q17884659]], waar {{P|31}}, {{P|577}} en {{P|407}} redelijk eenduidig op het wikinews-artikel staan. Is zoiets eenvoudig te doen, of kan ik het beter elders vragen? [[User:Edoderoo|Edoderoo]] ([[User talk:Edoderoo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:28, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

== Dutch streets ==

I'm concerned that [[Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972_2]] had little discussion or community consensus, for a 240,000-item import and a precedent for several magnitudes more than that. I suggest you pause the job - which I appreciate is a good-faith effort - while that [[Wikidata:Project chat#An item for every street?|discussion takes place]] in a more prominent venue. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 21:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:@[[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]] and others:  please show your opinion on [[Wikidata_talk:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RobotMichiel1972_2]]. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:24, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

== Street items ==

Hi, I like your bot creating all these street items, but I am not convinced it is a good idea to add {{p|969}}. Afaik, the idea behing p969 was mostly to have some fallback solution to provide an address when no item about the street was available. On the other hand I think you could use {{p|1448}} or ({{p|1705}}) for the street name, and also set the English (and French, and German..) label to the same value as the Dutch label. -[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
:Yes, P1488 would be helpful. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 11:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
::I don't know if you have read this message, but I really think the bot should not be adding {{p|969}} to items about street. That does not really make sense. --[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== Note ==

You have already created several items for streets starting with Z. You should not do that twice.--[[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:27, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== {{Q|17342544}} ==

Die heb ik ooit met veel tijd en moeite uit elkaar getrokken en netjes in verschillende items ingedeeld. Weet je zeker dat je dat allemaal in één iem wilt stoppen? [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
:Item https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1964485&oldid=209138981 stond in de lijst van 'onjuiste/ontbrekende RM' (wel monumentstatus rijksmonument en geen id), samenvoegen met 17342544 (gehele complex) leek me logisch, ook vanwege inhoud nl artikel (beschrijft complex, niet alleen gebouw A). [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
::enne..ik kan nog heel wat hulp gebruiken om [[User:RobotMichiel1972/Items_zonder_rijksmonumentnummer]] op te schonen. In mijn eentje gaat het nog een jaar duren om alle rijksmonument-duplicaten zonder nummer te mergen met de rijksmonument items die ooit geautomatiseerd zijn aangemaakt door jouw. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

== Erroneous infobox data havesting ==

Hi, it seems that [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q948178&diff=214687346&oldid=206276997 this] comes from wrong infobox data harvesting (El Mañana is mentionned in the ref inside the infobox parameter, but it is clearly not the architect of the building) I have seen this error before, so I suppose that it comes from some bot software or something, if you could warn its maintainers ;)... --[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:01, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

== [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13561342&curid=15236205&diff=220821631&oldid=148099359 diff] ==

I think this is wrong. Please check your semiautomatic edits thoroughly. &nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:FelixReimann|Felix&nbsp;Reimann]] ([[User talk:FelixReimann|talk]]) 12:14, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
:Dutch label was wrong. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:35, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

== Niet handig ==

Hallo Michiel1972, Ik zie dat je vanochtend een hele serie artikelen van nl-wiki op Wikidata hebt gezet. Sorry, maar dat is niet handig en helpt alleen maar van de regen in de drup. Al weken zijn we hard bezig om alle nl-wiki-artikelen aan Wikidata toe te voegen met alle minimale verklaringen die er voor een onderwerp minstens nodig zijn. Dit doen we op basis van de lijst van ongekoppelde items. Als gebruikers massaal dan artikelen op Wikidata gaan plempen, raken wij het overzicht kwijt en staat er te weinig verklaringen om effectief iets met deze items te kunnen doen. Niet voor niets hebben we maanden geleden gevraagd aan alle bots om geen artikelen meer vanaf nl-wiki te importeren, omdat dit niet helpt om deze artikelen kwalitatief op Wikidata te krijgen. Nu kunnen we de bende die hier veroorzaakt is weer opruimen... [[User:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[User talk:Romaine|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
:  ''Niet voor niets hebben we maanden geleden gevraagd aan alle bots om geen artikelen meer vanaf nl-wiki te importeren'' daar weet ik niets van. Verder weet ik niet of de itemcreator van http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/creator.html als bot kan worden aangemerkt. Deze gebruik ik regelmatig, voor verschillende talen. En uiteraard is het geen kwade opzet om 'jullie' (ons?) project te dwarsbomen door het aanmaken van missende wikidata-items. mvg [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

== wrong claim architect (P84) ==

Can you check the following edits [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18397019&type=revision&diff=213644664&oldid=185672939] [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2614892&type=revision&diff=213638974&oldid=210927591] where the claim {{P|84}} was added to an {{p|31}} {{Q|5}}.

== references for streets ==

I noticed a lot of items related to streets added to wikidata with general reference to {{Q| Q18916547}} but no specific reference. Does each of these streets have a url? If so could you add a {{P|973}} statement to each street so they have proper references that can be used to check the data? [[User:Filceolaire|Joe Filceolaire]] ([[User talk:Filceolaire|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
:No, no specific url is available per street. Data with all streets can be downloaded using the url in {{Q| Q18916547}}. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:40, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

== WTA = women's tennis -- ATP = men's tennis ==

Hello Michiel1972,

on 30 nov 2014 16:35 your bot contributed to:
* {{Q|3353488}}
* {{Q|3353484}}
* {{Q|3353482}}
* {{Q|3353487}}
* {{Q|3353490}}
* {{Q|3353491}}
* {{Q|1759542}}
* {{Q|2603083}}
* {{Q|2880442}}
* {{Q|513973}}
* {{Q|4144837}}
* {{Q|15690495}}
the property: {{P|31}} {{Q|299402}}.

What was your intention by doing that?

I have taken the liberty to take those away, as they are obviously wrong.

Kind regards, [[User:Vinkje83|Vinkje83]] ([[User talk:Vinkje83|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:44, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
:Oops. Happened due to manually processing the tree ATP in french wiki, but category https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Tournoi_de_tennis_de_Doha included both ATP and WTP which I probably didn't noticed. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

== Most frequent .. 2010 ==
Hi Michiel1972,

I added a quote to the statement as these items tend to get merged and it's not always clear what it refers to. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 17:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
:Hi, I am preparing an import of the frequency for the first given name in the Netherlands. I'll try to add that claim also. But see many popular names are missing (Noortje, Inge, Janny, Mirthe,..) so try to fix that first. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:17, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
::I thought I created them all ;)  -- Naming did change since the 1930s.
::I was thinking about linking diminutives to their unabridged version (in P31 with qualifier "of"; there is an incomplete list at [[wiktionary:Appendix:Dutch diminutives of given names|Wiktionary]]), but then I figured it might be easier to do by a native Dutch speaker. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 09:39, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Another thing: would you have an easy way to move (or re-add) the 8 on [http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/?language=en&project=wikipedia&category=&depth=12&wdq=claim%5B793%3A21644845%5D%20and%20claim%5B31%3A202444%2C31%3A11879590%2C31%3A12308941%2C31%3A3409032%5D%20and%20claim%5B31%3A4167410%2C31%3A101352%5D&pagepile=&statementlist=&run=Run&mode_manual=or&mode_cat=or&mode_wdq=not&mode_find=or&chunk_size=10] to items that are for given names only, e.g. [[Q3194383]] instead of [[Q1158550]]. I did a few manually and it's not as quick as moving sitelinks ;) --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 11:07, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

== Using ship type as P31 ==

Hi, I noticed that the number of [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P289&action=history constraint violations on "vessel class"] increased sharply today; it originates from your bot adding ship types as {{P|289}}.  Vessel classes have [[Wikidata:WikiProject_Ships/Properties#Ship_classes|a stricter definition]] and cannot bear a ship type as their values: ship types like {{Q|11229656}} rather have to be used as the value for {{P|31}}, see [[Wikidata:WikiProject_Ships/Properties#Ship_types]].  You may also have a look at [[Property_talk:P289]] and at [[Wikidata:WikiProject Ships/Classification]].

Do you have the means to fix these recent changes?  There seem to be over a thousand {{Q|11229656}} in that situation.  Let me know, please.  Cheers ---- '' [[User:Laddo|LaddΩ]]''  [[User_talk:Laddo|''<small>chat </small>'';)]] 14:05, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
:Hi, I don't understand the problem. Just tried to put a valid general P31 and its more detailed ship class P289. (Same approach is used for books, computergames, etc using genre). You can not expect me to read all wikiprojects in detail.. You may correct my edits, I just populated https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Navios_da_Classe_Landing_Ship_Tank because of missing P31. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:28, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Maybe explain it me using {{Q|10386256}}. P31 is 'ship' , that is a correct claim right? Then P289 indicates what type (or class) ship, thus a LST. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:41, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
: Here, I added the right stuff in {{Q|10386256}}, based on http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/12132.html.  The confusion originates from the Portuguese Wikipedia itself: on [[:pt:USS LST-1072]], they used template attribute "classe" to indicate LST, when they should have used "tipo".  I will try to fix it myself, then.  ---- '' [[User:Laddo|LaddΩ]]''  [[User_talk:Laddo|''<small>chat </small>'';)]] 18:10, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

== Removing P31:Q649434 ==

{{Q|649434}} is really not good combination with {{P|31}} ({{P|1435}} is much better), so i can agree with removing it in a case, where there is another {{P|31}}. But I am not sure if it is good to remove it in a case, when it is only one {{P31}} (like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q753515&curid=708919&diff=287124006&oldid=256062628 here]). --[[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

== Bot ==

Is there really the ned to put in Dutch ''Western Australia, Australia'' against a whole lot of articles that have Western Australia as an adequate qualifier?

It seems redundant from an outsiders point of view.  You may have a good explanation.  [[User:JarrahTree|JarrahTree]] ([[User talk:JarrahTree|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
:Short descriptions are useful for searching items. Without description, a user can not see that the item is in Western Australia, unless the user opens the complete page and can read all claims. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
::Descriptions from Wikidata are nowadays used by the mobile app. They better don't be blank, and as descriptive as we can get them! [[User:Edoderoo|Edoderoo]] ([[User talk:Edoderoo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

== Schools in Kent United Kingdom ==

Your bot is crawling around secondary schools in Kent- putting inaccurate information into NL. I have a lot of sympathy, because the titles of the schools in Kent are designed to confuse parents. Kent evaded the instruction to change its antiquated selective model to the comprehensive model in 1968, by deciding to run a comparative test before doing the full change. It created two full comprehensive schools in remote aras and a segregated all-ability school. All its Secondary Modern Schools it renamed High Schools (the name used by comprehensive schools in the rest of England.) One grammar school is called a Maths School, the rest are called Grammar Schools. I hope you are following!
The Catholic Church would have none of this rubbish- it announced that all its secondary school would become full comprehensive schools. However Kent Grammar schools encouraged all bright students in the 3 comprehensive schools and the Catholic sector to transfer to the Grammar schools- thus creaming off their top students. The Comprehensive school became creamed-comprehensives. Kent High schools were failing, so were forced to become Academies and another name change. If I were having children now- I would be teaching them Nederlands- so they can bail out and go to a secondary school and university in the Netherlands. Good luck in explaining that to your bot. Other counties to avoid are Buckinghamshire Lincolnshire and Cheshire who have similar Neanderthal systems- but use a different terminology- High school in Cheshire is a Grammar school mainly.--[[User:ClemRutter|ClemRutter]] ([[User talk:ClemRutter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
:Hi! My bot intends to provide a very short summary for many items, and focusses on Dutch readers. It uses esisting claims ('is a' -> 'high school') to add this description. So in case the claims are not correct, the added summary will be incorrect.. Best thing to do is to change the -according to your knowledge- wrong claims for schools. I have not enough knowledge about the school system in the UK to do this. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

==bot: descriptions and locations (wrong)==
Hello, i found that your bot added some wrong nl descriptions like here [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21226667&diff=292168418&oldid=275601312]. Problem: it only adds the first P131 statement as location info into the description, but this can be very misleading. Same at [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21226805&diff=292168423&oldid=263258148]. maybe you can look into it and find a better solution for such bot-made descriptions? [[User:Holger1959|Holger1959]] ([[User talk:Holger1959|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:36, 15 January 2016 (UTC) PS: this problem obviously exists now for many nature reserve items (and maybe others too), another example [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q21421294&diff=prev&oldid=292168285]. [[User:Holger1959|Holger1959]] ([[User talk:Holger1959|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
:Hi, not really wrong but incomplete, yes. But as I do not find it useful to mention all administrative regions in the summarizing description, I changed the bot so in case more than one claims for P131 are found, the first region/municpality will not be added in the description but only the country.  [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
::Thank you for partly changing your bot. can you change its behaviour for other properties (especially P17 and p31) with more than one statement too? see examples [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1747379&diff=prev&oldid=292209147 "forgotten" country/Netherlands] or [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1702823&diff=292138190&oldid=284855775 "Natura 2000-gebied" for a national park] (not completely wrong, but obviously not the best description).
::For the german nature reserve items i have checked about 1000 bot edits, and corrected about 300 misleading descriptions, see my [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Holger1959&offset=20160116101734&limit=300&target=Holger1959 contributions] (took me some hours, not yet finished, I only went back to [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/RobotMichiel1972&dir=prev&offset=20160115085551&target=RobotMichiel1972 2016-01-15 09:55]). This ratio (ca 1/3) is normal for protected areas in Germany, where many areas are located in more than one municipality or district. On Wikipedia there are about 10.000 German protected area articles in total (the majority has Wikidata items already). But this is important not only for German items: misleading descriptions now exist for other country items too, see eg. [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7476048&diff=292139338&oldid=239698298 Moerputten/NL] with 's-Hertogenbosch not included (i only noticed some of these cases when clicking on an other country item by accident, therefore i cant tell how many may be affected).
::Suggestion: please , in general, do not let your bot add descriptions from any property with more than one statement, when only one random or the first statement will be used. such items are better left for human handling i think.
::An other problem to think about (not specific for your bot, but for all fully or half-automated descriptions) is that we still have many false (i mean: 100 % wrong!) location statements in geographic items. For german items i can tell that especially P131 statements using one of the 16 german states are often wrong (eg. P131=Hesse, when P131=Thuringia would be correct). i know nothing about the reasons, but i observed that it is often the result of wrong edits by a number of tools or other bots from 2014 and early 2015, which have not been corrected yet. If now again bots use these wrong statements to add descriptions, errors will duplicate even more. And unfortunately, the potential for corrections is low: most humans editing german items are, naturally, germans. They usually use german interface (the only other language they often see is default English), therefore such wrong descriptions (here: Dutch for German items) probably tend to stay very long.
::Question: can you maybe make a list of potentially affected items edited by your bot? (items since you started with these descriptions; subset: items with 2 or more statementes for properties)
::PS: i think automated descriptions can generally be good and helpful, especially when they are really "safe" to add and when they are not too "stupid" (like those very short ones like "human" we have seen recently). We should only be aware of and try to avoid error sources. [[User:Holger1959|Holger1959]] ([[User talk:Holger1959|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

== Disambiguations and first names ==

Hi Michiel1972,

As you edit quite a lot of disambiguation items, I would be glad to have your input on [[Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Names#Revise_.22How_to_clean_up_a_given_name_item.22]] ? <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 19:06, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

== Incorrect nl descriptions ==

The bot is adding a lot of Dutch descriptions for plant families. This is no problem in cases like the Sapotaceae ("geslacht uit de familie Sapotaceae"), but it does give a problem for cases like the heifamilie: [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q44867&diff=prev&oldid=315160996 "geslacht uit de familie heifamilie"]. I don't know anything about bot programming, but perhaps you can put in a rule that the bot omits "familie" if the family name ends in "familie"? --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:39, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
:yes, this happened sometimes. I changed the text format now in the bot as proposed. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:36, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

== p2502 ==

Can you pls propose equivalent property for "Reservation" (Seat reserved for specific caste)? I thought "classified" can be more fit to use. thanks. --[[User:Mdmahir|Mdmahir]] ([[User talk:Mdmahir|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:18, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

== Listed buildings in Denmark ==

Where did you get the information for [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3529963&diff=270320383&oldid=260463694 this edit]? I cannot find it. &mdash; [[User:Fnielsen|Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen)]] ([[User talk:Fnielsen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

== Merge or not ? ==

Hi,

I see you created {{Q|18762207}} but is this item really needed or could it be merge with {{Q|15072800}} ? (I must say I can't tell the difference between this two items).

Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:46, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
==Louis Jacques Thénard==
Hoi Michiel, kan je even kijken of je bot goed werkt? Ik zag deze editː https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q327722&direction=next&oldid=185799893. Deze man was chemicus, niet politicus namelijk. Met vriendelijke groet, ̴̴̴̴̴
:hoi, een oude edit uit 2015. En ook toen stond onder P106 dat de man politicus was. Uiteraard is chemicus beter, maar dat weet een bot niet. [[User:Michiel1972|Michiel1972]] ([[User talk:Michiel1972|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:40, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
ːOké, je bot werkt goed dan. Groeten, ̴̴ELLYWA (tildes werken niet??)

== Erroneous statement ==

Hi, see [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q11745224&type=revision&diff=214322658&oldid=149977494 this diff]. I reverted it. [[User:Danmichaelo|Danmichaelo]] ([[User talk:Danmichaelo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:54, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

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== Herstel van haakjestoevoeging ==

Hallo Michiel,

door bewerkingen zoals [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q523726&type=revision&diff=13688392&oldid=11596005 deze] is helaas de situatie ontstaan dat op {{Q|330022}} bij de verklaring {{P|527}} een lange lijst met identieke labels (Australian Open 2009) wordt getoond. Een bezoeker die wil doorklikken naar een specifiek onderdeel (zeg: gemengd dubbelspel) heeft geen idee op welke hij moet klikken.

Zou jouw bot dit op alle jaargangen van alle grandslamtoernooien ongedaan kunnen maken? Ik ben even begonnen om dit met de hand te herstellen, maar dat is een mer à boire.

Bij voorbaat dank, [[User:Vinkje83|Vinkje83]] ([[User talk:Vinkje83|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:52, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:{{ping|Vinkje83}} [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q782532&diff=prev&oldid=348170479 dit soort bewerkingen] zijn niet de bedoeling. Onderscheid tussen concepten wordt gedaan in de beschrijving, niet in het label. Zie [[Help:Label]] en [[Help:Description]] voor meer informatie. Zou je Michiel z'n bewerkingen niet meer terug willen draaien? De interface van Wikidata is meer ontworpen voor de bewerker dan voor de lezer. Externe tools zoals [https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q330022&lang=en deze] en het gebruik van Wikidata op Wikipedia zouden een beter beeld moeten geven. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:32, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
::Multichill, je zou gelijk hebben als er 1 wikidata-item was voor een grandslam-toernooi, maar er is er 1 voor iedere pagina die wordt aangemaakt, en een voor het hele toernooi (waar ook een pagina voor wordt aangemaakt). Nu zijn er minstens zes items per grandslamtoernooi, en kun je aan de titel niet meer zien wat-wat-is. [[User:Edoderoo|Edoderoo]] ([[User talk:Edoderoo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:11, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
::Even op IRC zitten sparren: volgens mij is het een misverstand vanwege de haakjes in de titel. Daardoor lijkt het een soort doorverwijsconstructie geworden, en die kent WikiData niet, omdat labels niet uniek hoeven te zijn. Een betere titel wordt dan zonder haakjes, iets als ''Damesdubbel Roland Garros 2009''. [[User:Edoderoo|Edoderoo]] ([[User talk:Edoderoo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:38, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Ik zie dat de Fransen dat inderdaad ook zo doen (voorbeeld: [[:fr:Simple dames de l'Open d'Australie 2009]]. Persoonlijk vind ik dat een detaillering niet voorop zou moeten staan, maar volgen op de hoofdbenaming, zoals bij de Duitsers ([[:de:Australian Open 2009/Dameneinzel]]), Engelsen ([[:en:2009 Australian Open – Women's Singles]]) en Italianen ([[:it:Australian Open 2009 - Singolare femminile]]). Ook [[:es:Anexo:Abierto de Australia 2009 (individual femenino)|de Spanjaarden]] zetten het erachter, maar dan weer met een haakjesuitdrukking die in het wikidata-label helaas vaak is verdwenen. [[User:Vinkje83|Vinkje83]] ([[User talk:Vinkje83|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

== Wrong coordinates ==

Hi,

Your bot added two wrong coordinates on {{Q|19317443}} and {{Q|19354152}}, I removed the coordinates in France (obvioulsy wrong for streets in the Netherlands), could you check it please ?

Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

== P625 ==

Hi Michiel1972, i saw your bot making [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q10023&diff=52930799&oldid=52124747 this edit]. I am interesting in how the 60" contained in the longitude got into WD. What format is required by WD-API? Did your bot used 52°23'60"N? Does WD accept such values? I am asking because on some Wikipedias the local templates complain about seconds/minutes>=60. Thank you for any hint, --[[User:Aschroet|Aschroet]] ([[User talk:Aschroet|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:55, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

== 5 (JJ Cale album) ==

Hi Michiel.

On the article in English about the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_(J._J._Cale_album) album 5 by JJ Cale], the link to the page in Swedish does not correspond and goes to [[:sv:5 (musikalbum)|5 (musikalbum)]], which redirects to the number 5 which is [[:sv:5 (tal)|5 (tal)]]. There is an existing article in Swedish about the album titled [[:sv:5 (album av J.J. Cale)|5 (album av J.J. Cale)]]. Can you fix it, please ? Let me know. [[User:Hypuxylun|Hypuxylun]] ([[User talk:Hypuxylun|talk]]) 15:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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== Geographic feature on sports club ==

Hi, I dont really understand making {{Q|847017}} a subclass of {{Q|618123}} - please could you explain? Wouldnt a sports venue be referenced via a different property than subclass? [[User:Pauljmackay|Pauljmackay]] ([[User talk:Pauljmackay|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:49, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

== Twee straten ==

Beste Michel, zou je twee straten willen aanmaken. Het gaat om de Rumphiusstraat en de Tweede Coehoornstraat in Amsterdam. Ze liggen op de Oostelijke Eilanden. Beide straten zouden weleens geen postcode kunnen hebben. De Rumphiusstraat kent geen enkele bebouwing, de 2e Coehoornstraat wel, maar dat gebouw staat genoteerd als Blankenstraat 2. Rumphiusstraat is er al op de nl, de 2e Coehoorn binnenkort. Alvast bedankt,[[User:Ceescamel|Ceescamel]] ([[User talk:Ceescamel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:27, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

== disambig problem ==

I reverted https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1280433&diff=212495522&oldid=211364427 as it linked to disambig. Maybe you are able to fix this problem? [[User:Mateusz Konieczny|Mateusz Konieczny]] ([[User talk:Mateusz Konieczny|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:10, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

== Bot: incorrect country ==

Hi! Your bot [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1397551&type=revision&diff=184349902&oldid=169380743 added Vietnam] as a country to a Chinese item. Not sure where it got that idea from, but it's best to check why it did that. Cheers! [[User:NMaia|NMaia]] ([[User talk:NMaia|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:58, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

== Streets and "shares border with" (P47) == 

Hi Michiel, 

{{Q|19514409}} came up on [[Wikidata:WikiProject Random|WikiProject Random]]. Interesting to have all these items on streets in the NL. Similar to streets in Paris (e.g. [[Q3450470#P47]]), I added {{P|47}} there to indicate the streets it intersects with. 

If you have the data available, maybe would want to add the same for other similar items. --- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 10:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

== Farah Diba/[[Q164111|Farah Pahlavi]] ==

Hi Michiel, on 6 Jan 2015 your Bot did a change on [[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q164111&diff=186391526&oldid=184040840 Farah Pahlavi]]. Why did the Bot think this person is an Amerikaans auteur? And did the bot make the same mistake on other artikels? [[User:MatthijsWiki|MatthijsWiki]] ([[User talk:MatthijsWiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

== polygon, hoe? ==

Beste Michiel1972,
De gemeente Den Haag heeft de [https://data.overheid.nl/dataset/gemeentelijkemonumenten shapefile] met polygonen vrijgegeven van hun gemeentelijke monumenten. Bij Rijksmonumenten zie ik op Commons in de infobox voor bijvoorbeeld {{Q|18812984}} zo'n polygon, maar ik begrijp niet hoe dat aan het Wikidata is gekoppeld. Weet jij hoe dit kan? --[[User:1Veertje|1Veertje]] ([[User talk:1Veertje|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:42, 6 September 2020 (UTC)