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Spelling of name

I've always understood that her name is "Latoya" and not "La Toya". That's how it appears on her album covers.--190.96.58.41 (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is spelled as two words on her own publicity website. That's good enough for me. Krychek (talk) 15:49, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tito Jackson book

"She was also repeatedly molested by her father and brothers as confirmed in her brother Tito's book slated for an early 2008 release, entitled "Livin' Large"[4]"

I can't find any record of this book?

Yeh neither can I? Is it even a real book... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.121.179 (talk) 11:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"A Different World"

Just a clarification: La Toya was the fantasy of Ron Johnson, not Dwayne Wayne. Hillman heads will remember that Ron wanted a copy of La Toya's "Playboy" spread in the Hillman time capsule. 172.161.150.13 10:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's the problem with this article? I found it very helpful and interesting. --Jareth64 17:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is the list of singles overkill, or a good idea? Any thoughts? Jwrosenzweig 19:58, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

well, you're right... should I remove it? anyway, there'll be a new LaToya site (with full discography) online soon, when it'll be done I'll delete the singles here and put up a link to that site.

Removed single and album listings and created a discography page - she has enough albums and singles to deserve one. Rhythmnation2004 17:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"she stated that the allegations against Michael Jackson were true". Which particular allegations does this refer to? pomegranate 00:19, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

I ran into LaToya and met her for the first time this past weekend. She asked me my name, then introduced herself by saying, "I'm LaToya." I doubt she's changing her name, or she'd be introducing herself to new people with it.

She only used it when she sent the promo of her new song to radio stations. I don't think she'll continue using that nam

now that everyone knows Toy is LaToya.

This article is so hideously POV - whoever the fans of Latoya are that are editing it need to SERIOUSLY aquaint themselves with the rules and regulations of Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions but facts only, please. Also, let's be serious: the average man on the street thinks of Latoya Jackson as the cloying, less-talented sibling of Michael and Janet Jackson. I can only name on Latoya Jackson song - "Heart Don't Lie" - and that's because I saw it on a pop up video segment.

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:55, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

LaToya is a gay icon. Not to me, lol. 80.41.122.6 18:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect sales!

I would like the sales to be fixed on this page. It is grossly incorrect and should be fixed. 198.54.202.100 21:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why did my additions get deleted?

okay, I was playing a practical joke that I'm sorry for the first time. But... the second time, I was making the musical bio factual (sorry, LA TOYA is the cd with You're Gonna Get Rocked, NOT BAD GIRL) and yet it still gets deleted and reverted. WTF?

I am getting sick of everything I add getting deleted, same thing happened on the Streisand board when I added some information about her 70's and 80's albums, non-jokingly.

Wikipedia doesn't like "practical jokes".

Think Boy who cried wolf.

POV

There are a lot of assertions made in this article with no citations. They need to be added, ASAP, or I will come back within around a week and make major cuts and revisions to the article. Pacian 21:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article still needs a lot of cleanup

The cleanup template should not have been removed when there was no clean up done. The article does not follow many of Wikipedia's stlye guidelines. Individual years should not be linked to. "La Toya" should be refered to as "Jackson" throughout the entire article after the first mention of her full name. Only the first word in each heading should be capitalized unless proper nouns are present. The song titles in the discography should be placed in quotes. Also, the writing/grammar is very poor in many parts. For example: "La Toya was brought into the spotlight with her family after her father got the family to get together to perform several shows". And the article does need citiations. Somebody seems to have added {{Fact}} markers to the article, but they were removed. Articles need to cite sources. --Musicpvm 18:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I already added the citations that were needed. Some places said "Citation needed" when there is no possible way to provide one. And note to Musicpvm (or whatever your name is), if you are such the expert on the English language then why can't you correct the crap yourself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhythmnation2004 (talk • contribs)

Because I don't feel like cleaning it up at the moment. I may later. Why do you think Wikipedia has cleanup templates? That is what they are used for. When somebody sees that an article is in need of cleanup, they can place the template at the top to alert others. They are not required to clean it up themselves. What do you mean "there is not possible way to provide" citations? You removed {{Fact}} templates in areas that definitely need citations. The article makes strong claims yet lacks any references. You seem to be unaware of Wikipedia's policies. Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources. If you lack the ability to search for sources, don't just remove all of them. You have already done so twice. [1] [2]. The second time with the ridiculous explanation "Some things don't need citations. Some things are clearly stated as being from La Toya's book." If the source is her book, then cite the book and the page number. Also, please sign your comments on talk pages. --Musicpvm 02:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Musicpvm, good response to User:Rhythmnation2004. I was wondering about something. I have been under the impression, perhaps mistaken, that individual years do need links. Whether that is especially or only on the first reference to that year, my understanding is unclear. If you could point me to an appropriate policy or guideline that shows me where I'm wrong, I would really appreciate it, especially if you were willing to place it on my talk page. I only request that because I have hundreds of pages on my watchlist, so its usefulness has been reduced to almost zero. Thanks in advance. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 07:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have started to clean up the article in an effort to make it sound more neutral and like an encyclopedia but would have no idea where to find more citations. I'm just editing the tone and grammar a bit so it flows better. - DT

I have also noted more citations are needed but do not know the code to point them out. I will later include a list here on which a source is needed. - DT

DT - The code for a citation needed is ^{[citation needed]}, for an unreferenced section is , and for an unferenced article is . - Cheers, Froid (talk) 08:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Much of this article still reads like a tell-all book, written from a single point of view. It should be rewritten from a neutral and objective point of view.Landroo (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

This article has been tagged for almost 6 months now, and I think it is time to add citations where they are needed. Can an administrator please point out exactly what needs citations? I will be happy to find the sources and add them, but I need to know where there is a citation needed. Thanks. Rhythmnation2004 17:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No Relations fan page

I removed the link to - The No Relations La Toya fansite because the website hasn't been updated in 2 years and is very poorly maintained. In addition, the Geocities ads on the side are extremely frustrating. Only one fan site needs to be listed, and that is the Church of La Toya, which has a links page and links to other fan sites, most of which are also poorly maintained. Rhythmnation2004 16:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation of revisions on 23:20, 26 March 2007

To begin with, user 74.99.219.28, "Just Wanna Dance" -WAS- in the top 20 dance singles, although I agree that the way it is currently phrased is more neutral. Singer and musician are separate on many other articles (see Marlon Jackson), and there is no Wikipedia policy stating that this is not acceptable. She did indeed win a Grammy, as Jimmy Cliff's album on which the track "Reggae Nights" appeared received a Grammy award for Songwriting. Since La Toya was a songwriter on this album, she is a rightful winner of that award just as much as any other contributing writer to that album. In addition, I have added in the fact that Jackson is a New York Times Bestselling author, as it is common knowledge that her memoir La Toya: Growing up in the Jackson Family sat on the top of the Best Sellers list for several weeks. You obviously have very little knowledge on the subject of La Toya Jackson, which is a good reason why you should try to not get involved with this page. I have seen in the past that you have continued to vandalize this page with the sole purpose of belittling La Toya Jackson or making her appear to be a less-legitimate musician, actress, author, and songwriter than she truly is. Please refrain from further revisions of the introduction paragraph or you will be reported to administration for repeated vandalism. However, I thank you for your attempted contribution and hope that you will find other ways to contribute to Wikipedia in the future, hopefully with legitimate sources as proof that your revisions are fact, and not your own biased opinions. Rhythmnation2004 23:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT: No, Jackson has *not* won a Grammy. Jimmy Cliff has won the Grammy, for an album which Jackson happens to have a co-writing credit on. Grammy awards for performance are not given to songwriters, they are given to the performer. No Grammy has been given to Jackson, as NARAS themselves will confirm; since the Grammys are their own awards, NARAS should qualify as a "legitimate source". Just because you feel that she *should* get a trophy, or assume that one has been given, for her song-writing co-credit does not make it so. (For an analogy, consider that when Oscars are handed out for Best Picture, they are given to the producer - not the guys named further down the credits.) To say that Jackson is a "Grammy-winning songwriter" is misinformation at best, a lie at worst, though I won't question your motivations. But she has definitely not won a Grammy in any category, certainly not for song-writing where she has not even been nominated. She *has* been nominated (but not won) in the Dance category, so if the article needs the word "Grammy" in it to legitimize her, the article can mention that. Overstating her accomplishments (or fabricating them outright) is no better than denigrating them. (CCC)

Image

Rhythmnation2004 (talk · contribs) insists that Image:Latoyatile.jpg is a proper image for this page. The image is a tile print that the user made himself of Jackson. In my opinion it looks almost nothing like her and has no place on this page. Does anyone else have thoughts on it? Metros 17:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I intend no offense or incivility when I say this, but simply honesty: That picture looks as much like a sock puppet as it does La Toya Jackson. If it doesn't actually reflect the subject of the article, it doesn't belong. Bladestorm 17:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment - I added a self-created representation that should be suitable until this debate is settled! 99DBSIMLR 17:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, about that...Please see WP:POINT. Metros 17:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Metros continues to abuse admin powers by removing all listed awards and achievements from the La Toya Jackson article, despite the fact that all of the more obscure awards were properly sourced and the other ones were common knowledge (such as, La Toya Jackson provinging background vocals on Michael Jackson's Thriller (album), which can not be proven other than a scan of the album's inlay). Metros' rationale behind this was that images of the awards themselves, which were the sources given, were not acceptable. I asked Metros to show me which Wikipedia policy stated this, and he refused, probably because there isn't any. In addition, Metros went so far as to say that some of the awards were not notable and not worthy of being referenced on the article, including, but not limited to, such prestigious awards as tributes from U.S. congress, the NAACP Medal of Freedom, and a recognition certificate from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, among other things.

This is not the first time that Metros has used his personal hatred towards the subject of the article to belittle her by removing any part of the article that glorifies her achievements. This violates the Wikipedia policy of Neutral point of view, a policy which Metros constantly quotes. Rhythmnation2004 19:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Rhythmnation2004, this isn't really an article request for comment as far as I can tell, this appears to be a request for comment on my actions. A request for comment for articles should talk about the issue (i.e. are Imageshack images reliable sources) and not on people's actions. For user requests for comments see WP:RFC/USER. Metros 20:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to User:Metros. No, this is a request for comment on the unjustified removal of valued content from this article. Please stop trying to run me around in circles to get this issue resolved. You have already refused mediation, this issue has been thrown off the Admin's noticeboard, and I am using this as a last result. This is a request for comment on this article, and the request remains. Rhythmnation2004 20:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is forum shopping. You didn't get what you wanted at WP:ANI, where it was clearly explained that what Metros did was not "abusing admin powers", yet you are making the same complaints here. So this is a clearly incorrect complaint, previously posted at another forum, now reposted in an incorrect forum here. Please stop it. Fram 12:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Metros' abuse of admin powers is NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS REQUEST FOR COMMENT. This request for comment was created to discuss the unjustified removal of properly sourced awards and achievements from the La Toya Jackson article. Please stop trying to change the subject; it's obvious that you are only trying to keep me running around to the point of exaustion in the hopes that I will drop it. Rhythmnation2004 13:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then why does this RfC start with you railing against my continued abuse of admin powers? RfCs are supposed to be neutral. They are supposed to present the broad view of the topic at hand, not one side's complaint. A statement like "Comments are requested on the reliability of the sources given in the awards and achievements section" is more appropriate than "Metros is removing this information and he did a bunch of other bad things." Metros 13:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm amazed that responding to the first six words of your initial RfC statement is explained as "trying to change the subject". But if I ignore your wrong claims about Metros and the fact that this is the wrong forum for them, I still have to say that images are usually (and in this case as well) not reliable sources. If an award, recognition, medal, ... is truly important, there have to be a number of independent reliable media (newspapers, magazines, ...) that have reported about it. This may require some searching, but that is the burden of the one wanting to include such claims. Poorly sourced claims, especially about living persons, may be removed by other editors. Fram 18:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I am completely ignoring any response from Metros and Fram. There is NO Wikipedia policy that states that images can not be used as sources. A photograph of the award is the best proof possible that the award exists. Rhythmnation2004 19:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Certain awards that need to be noted

La Toya's appearances in music videos, such as "L.A. Is My Lady" and "Say Say Say" do not require sources, as anyone can watch the videos and see this for themselves. Yet, these references were removed.
La Toya's status as resident performer of the Moulin Rouge does not require a source, as thousands of people saw it themselves and also, a soundtrack was released. See Formidable.
La Toya provided background vocals on Michael Jackson's Thriller (album). This does not require a source as anyone can open the album's inlay and see that La Toya is listed as one of the backing vocalists.

It is blatantly obvious that the user that removed all of these awards and other achievements is attempting to make La Toya Jackson look like a joke, by only providing two sourced achievements in the article.Rhythmnation2004 20:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is blatantly obvious that the user who has removed them believes that your so-called "common knowledge" statements are not "common knowledge" statements. Metros 20:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Despite the fact that I just proved that those three achievements do not require sources. How mature of you. Rhythmnation2004 22:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your statements do not prove anything. Anyone can go read Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone but we still cite it as a source. So just saying "hey, you can go watch her videos" is not sufficient. Thousands of people watched Mariah Carey on TRL with her breakdown but we still have to cite a source saying what happened on there. This is not common knowledge as much as you want to believe it is. By the way, so much for ignoring any comment I make, huh? Metros 22:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by uninvolved third party

Okay, first of all, this RfC is improperly structured. It should be presented as a neutral statement (i.e. "Should this content be included?") not a clearly POV finger pointing statement.

That said, my take on the matter is this: Photos and videos from a user content site like youtube or imageshack or wherever are certainly not reliable sources. Aside from the fact that it calls for conclusions to be made that aren't immediately obvious (subject of the photo, what's happening), such user based content could be manipulated or misrepresentative. On the other hand, if her name appears in the liner notes (or in any sort of credit reel), that doesn't call for any conclusion and certainly should be included (and referenced to the source, if necessary). If the subject truly did receive an award, there is likely a better record than some random photo. Even a primary source, like the subject's own bio would probably be acceptable here. Even better would be the award giver itself, since they generally keep a record of such things.

Second, as far as removing unsourced material goes, I'm never really against it, but I don't think that removing awards and appearances falls under WP:BLP which clearly states that it's about contentious and potentially libelous material. Outside of BLP, if an editor suspects that unsourced material may be inaccurate or can't tell, then removal is fine. I would frown upon a user removing information that they believed to be accurate, that wasn't contentious just because sourcing was insufficient, though. I just don't see the point.

Finally, as far as the abuse of admin powers goes, that's probably beyond the scope of this RfC, but it's unclear to me what, if any, admin powers were used here. Looks like a straight up content dispute to me, in which one of the involved parties happens to be an admin.

So, that's my take. Hope it helps. -Chunky Rice 18:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was working with the contentious aspect of BLP as in it caused contention among Wikipedia editors. Rhythmnation2004 kept adding a comment that she was a Grammy-award winning person but kept failing to source it or sourcing it inappropriately. Other editors tried to remove it but he forced it back in saying (through this IP edit) that "it's common knowledge that La Toya is a grammy-winning songwriter for "Reggae Nights". YOU are welcome to contact the Grammy corporation for confirmation." Because there was contention on this and the other awards, I removed them. Do you think I am interpreting the BLP differently? Inappropriately? To me, there was contention and that's why I removed with this in mind: "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material...about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles." Metros 18:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do think that your interpretation of WP:BLP is overbroad in that respect. Look at the the text under the subheading regarding contentious material. It says, "Where the material is derogatory and unsourced or poorly sourced." (emphasis mine). The rest of the content also refers to material that is negative in tone. My reading of that is that BLP is primarily about negative or harmful content. This is not to say that there's anything wrong with removing unsourced material that you believe to be inaccurate. I just don't think that you can or need to justify it with BLP. This does mean that repeatedly removing the content may run you into 3RR, though, which is not the case for a BLP violation. -Chunky Rice 18:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well the lead of the BLP policy states "whether negative, positive, or just highly questionable" (right where the ... is in the part I quoted in my first reply. So I've interpreted as regarding all material based on that. Metros 18:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I agree that BLP applies per that sentence. I do find it odd that very little fo the rest of the policy supports it, though (including the statement by Jimbo that the sentences references). Given that, I still think that the emphasis of the policy is about negative/potentially harmful content. -Chunky Rice 19:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wandering by--there is a point about unsourced positive comment--it might be untrue; BLPs can be a problem in both directions, though I think the wording back there needs to be fixed up. But in this case, though, I cannot see what the problem is. I thought there was a list of such awards. Either there is an award, or there isn't. If there is, it can be sourced. Asserting a Grammy and saying one can not source it, that seems a little odd. But maybe I misunderstand-- it seems too simple. DGG 03:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Science

I've modified a few statements. Firstly LaToya in her book cited, makes it very clear that she chose to be in that religion, so I've made that clear here. Secondly she didn't spend "most" of her time witnessing. Her witnessing is only mentioned a few times in her book, among a host of other things that had nothing to do with the religion. She does make it clear that until her 20s at least, the religion had an established grip on her perspective of a number of things, such as what song lyrics she could sing for example. Wjhonson 18:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've found another oddity. The article stated before that *Jack* had coaxed her into posing for Playboy. Her book, which I have, states very clearly that it was her own decision. Wjhonson 17:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Omissions

The article omits the following issues:

what does her given name mean, how did it originate?
rhinoplasty, other cosmetic surgery

Thanks, Maikel (talk) 11:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

involvement with the Psychic Discovery Network Cstaffa (talk) 21:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

She used to be a Jehovah's Witness, but what religion is she now? Nietzsche 2 (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jackson is currently not part of any organized religion. Am86 (talk) 07:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Female American police officers

Why is she in the category of Female American police officers? Just wondering since there is no reference of this occupation in the article itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.188.42 (talk) 01:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jackson received basic training and served as a police officer during her participation in "Armed and Famous." I will add references later.

WP:LEAD#Relative emphasis

WP:LEAD#Relative emphasis does allow material to be introduced in lede and to repeated in follow-on sections. Wholesale deletion is not good. Now, I will accept that lede is too long and has peacock words which can be eliminated. ----moreno oso (talk) 05:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lede too long tag

Recommend that peacock words and lede be shortened to include the pertinent facts already present as per preceding section. ----moreno oso (talk) 05:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There was not a lede problem before these July 1 edits. Sixtyplace9472's edits revolve around Jackson's marriage to Jack Gordon, which is detailed legibly and in context within the article. The paragraph describing her divorce is directly copied and pasted from Gordon v. Gordon, which is already linked to in the body of the article.

My issue with Sixtyplace9472's edits is not "repetition". I cited Wikipedia:LEAD#Relative_emphasis for the bolded text:

"In general, the relative emphasis given to material in the lead should reflect its relative importance to the subject according to reliable sources. Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article, although specific facts, such as birthdates, titles, or scientific designations will often appear in the lead only, as may certain quotations. This should not be taken to exclude information from the lead, but to include it in both the lead and body: in a well-constructed article, the relative emphasis given to information in the lead will be reflected in the rest of the text. Do not tease the reader by hinting at startling facts without describing them." Am86 (talk) 08:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another issue are WP:BLP violations in Sixtyplace9472's unnecessarily expanded lede. For instance Jackson never wrote that her father was a sexual abuser in Growing Up... yet Sixtyplace9472 continues to add this erroneous claim. Am86 (talk) 03:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon faking death before

Just reading the article and I'm wondering if we shouldn't rephrase "he sent a security expert to eyewitness that Gordon had not faked his death a second time" so that we make it clear that this is something La Toy has claimed. As written currently, it comes off a little confusing (in both articles) because there is no mention of the idea of a first faked death anywhere else. And the link we use to reference the claim (in both this and Gordon's article) is a dead link. I know she mentions it in her book but she's not any more specific so using that as a source wouldn't alleviate the confusion at all. It would, perhaps, be a better source to use for the hiring of the security expert, at least. Millahnna (talk) 10:25, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where's this article's edit tab?

I realize some articles' editing functions are restricted to experienced editors who are in good standing. Since I'm both, why am I unable to edit this one? - Froid (talk) 09:02, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

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There are very many pictures and videos of "Oche Jackson" with the Family since 2009, and he even claims La Toya as being his mother. ~ Iamthecheese44 (talk) 04:52, 23 sept 2017 (UTC)

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Trump supporter?

Although politics have been a taboo topic in many places it is commonplace for celebrity articles on Wikipedia to mention political affiliations.

La Toya follows several members of the Trump family on social media and has a friendship with the former president from their Celebrity Apprentice days.

The few times she has mentioned Trump during his presidency was usually in a positive light or to defend him from criticism.

I know it's a weak case but if there were only some way to confirm this. 98.10.17.162 (talk) 04:27, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==Spelling of name==
 I've always understood that her name is "Latoya" and not "La Toya". That's how it appears on her album covers.--[[Special:Contributions/190.96.58.41|190.96.58.41]] ([[User talk:190.96.58.41|talk]]) 14:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
+:It is spelled as two words on her own [http://www.latoyaonline.com publicity website]. That's good enough for me. [[User:Krychek|Krychek]] ([[User talk:Krychek|talk]]) 15:49, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 ==Tito Jackson book==
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 I have also noted more citations are needed but do not know the code to point them out.  I will later include a list here on which a source is needed. - DT
+:DT - The code for a citation needed is {{cn|date=May 2013}}, for an unreferenced section is {{unreferenced section|date=May 2013}}, and for an unferenced article is {{unreferenced article|date=May 2013}}. - Cheers, [[User:Froid|Froid]] ([[User talk:Froid|talk]]) 08:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
+:Much of this article still reads like a tell-all book, written from a single point of view. It should be rewritten from a neutral and objective point of view.[[User:Landroo|Landroo]] ([[User talk:Landroo|talk]]) 16:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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 I removed the link to [http://www.geocities.com/latoyanorelations/main.html - The No Relations La Toya fansite] because the website hasn't been updated in 2 years and is very poorly maintained. In addition, the Geocities ads on the side are extremely frustrating. Only one fan site needs to be listed, and that is [http://www.churchoflatoya.com the Church of La Toya], which has a links page and links to other fan sites, most of which are also poorly maintained. [[User:Rhythmnation2004|Rhythmnation2004]] 16:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
-==New picture==
-The new picture is pretty good, but her nose looks like it could fall off any minute. I'm assuming that's not the lighting; it's her appointments with the Jackson rhinoplasty surgeon. LOL [[User:80.43.9.157|80.43.9.157]] 12:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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 Thanks, [[User:Maikel|Maikel]] ([[User talk:Maikel|talk]]) 11:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * involvement with the Psychic Discovery Network  [[User:Cstaffa|Cstaffa]] ([[User talk:Cstaffa|talk]]) 21:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
-Girl !
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 :Jackson received basic training and served as a police officer during her participation in "Armed and Famous." I will add references later.
+==WP:LEAD#Relative emphasis==
-== Latoya Jackson ==
+[[WP:LEAD#Relative emphasis]] does allow material to be introduced in lede and to repeated in follow-on sections. Wholesale deletion is not good. Now, I will accept that lede is too long and has peacock words which can be eliminated. ----[[User:Morenooso|moreno oso]] ([[User talk:Morenooso#top|talk]]) 05:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
+===Lede too long tag===
+Recommend that peacock words and lede be shortened to include the pertinent facts already present as per preceding section. ----[[User:Morenooso|moreno oso]] ([[User talk:Morenooso#top|talk]]) 05:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
+:There was not a lede problem before these [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=La_Toya_Jackson&action=historysubmit&diff=371268976&oldid=370697750 July 1] edits. Sixtyplace9472's edits revolve around Jackson's marriage to Jack Gordon, which is detailed legibly and in context within the article. The paragraph describing her divorce is directly copied and pasted from ''[[Gordon v. Gordon]]'', which is already linked to in the body of the article.
+:My issue with Sixtyplace9472's edits is not "repetition". I cited [[Wikipedia:LEAD#Relative_emphasis]] for the bolded text:
+:"In general, the relative emphasis given to material in the lead should reflect its relative importance to the subject according to reliable sources. Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article, although specific facts, such as birthdates, titles, or scientific designations will often appear in the lead only, as may certain quotations. This should not be taken to exclude information from the lead, but to include it in both the lead and body: in a well-constructed article, '''the relative emphasis given to information in the lead will be reflected in the rest of the text'''. Do not tease the reader by hinting at startling facts without describing them." [[User:Am86|Am86]] ([[User talk:Am86|talk]]) 08:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
+::Another issue are [[WP:BLP]] violations in Sixtyplace9472's unnecessarily expanded lede. For instance Jackson never wrote that her father was a sexual abuser in ''Growing Up...'' yet Sixtyplace9472 continues to add this erroneous claim. [[User:Am86|Am86]] ([[User talk:Am86|talk]]) 03:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
+== Gordon faking death before ==
+Just reading the article and I'm wondering if we shouldn't rephrase "he sent a security expert to eyewitness that Gordon had not faked his death a second time" so that we make it clear that this is something La Toy has claimed.  As written currently, it comes off a little confusing (in both articles) because there is no mention of the idea of a first faked death anywhere else.  And the link we use to reference the claim (in both this and Gordon's article) is a dead link.  I know she mentions it in her book but she's not any more specific so using that as a source wouldn't alleviate the confusion at all.  It would, perhaps, be a better source to use for the hiring of the security expert, at least. [[User:Millahnna|Millahnna]] ([[User talk:Millahnna|talk]]) 10:25, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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+I realize some articles' editing functions are restricted to experienced editors who are in good standing. Since I'm both, why am I unable to edit this one? - [[User:Froid|Froid]] ([[User talk:Froid|talk]]) 09:02, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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+There are very many pictures and videos of "Oche Jackson" with the Family since 2009, and he even claims La Toya as being his mother.  ~ [[User:Iamthecheese44|Iamthecheese44]] ([[User talk:Iamthecheese44|talk]]) 04:52, 23 sept 2017 (UTC)
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+== Trump supporter? ==
+Although politics have been a taboo topic in many places it is commonplace for celebrity articles on Wikipedia to mention political affiliations.
+La Toya follows several members of the Trump family on social media and has a friendship with the former president from their Celebrity Apprentice days.
-Latoya Jackson !
+The few times she has mentioned Trump during his presidency was usually in a positive light or to defend him from criticism.
-Concentration there are only one life !
+I know it's a weak case but if there were only some way to confirm this. [[Special:Contributions/98.10.17.162|98.10.17.162]] ([[User talk:98.10.17.162|talk]]) 04:27, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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there are only one life: there is nothing to lose: Sevval Sam: Dostum Dostum: true: bir kere dinleyin yeterli: fazla deghil: girl: Lara Katmer: girl you know it is true: Lara Katmer: iyi senin ichin: SOYADIN temiz deghil dimi: temizse kendi SOYADIN al: ch: sh: oe: ue: you know what to do: but do it right: come a little bit closer: kayd oldu bu chok: yanash bana: gel: come closer: your given name and surname: Tuba Ekinci: or: Tughba Ekinci: do it better: Tuba Ekinci: girl: Tughba Ekinci: iyi ASLINDA: Tughba Ekinci: ama: Tuba Ekinci:de: iyi: Tuba Ekinci: yanach bana: your actress name: you are my girl: true: eserler: Lena Landrut: gibi: rap: TARZI her eser yapa bilirsin: Satellite: temiz olsun eserler: ritm: video: cd extra: Tughba Ekinci: gh=yumushak G international: beyendighin gibi yap: bu kayd oldu: ritm kalite: TikTok: bu tarz iyi: kendi eserlerin: istedighim gibi: tamam: kafa sallamak yok: gel: yananash bana: gel gel gel: diye: girl: yanash bana: istedighim gibi: istedighimi YAPARIM: uzun SARILIP ve oepme istedigim gibi: temiz olsun: ama: bana kim Kondom ALACAGHINI biliyorsun: ZAMANIM olmazsa: ama kendim ALIRIM muhtach deghilim ve IHTIYACIM yok: sende aynen muhtach deghilim: bilmeni istedim: birisine chok kin oldu: kin chok koerue kin: goez YASHLARINA muhtach deghilim: diye: control of your life: come a little bit closer yanash bana: true: come a little bit closer: yanash bana: ilk oence yanash bana sende: istedighim YAPARIM: istedighim gibi SARILIR ve operim: sende sev beni: Müjde: sende sev: beni: yoksa ne shimdi nede oelduekten sonra seninde goez YASHLARINA MUHTACIM: IHTIYACIM yok: siktir: yok: now you know: true: you understand: sende sev beni: yoksa kopmam gerekiyor: yanash bana ve yap beni: SB: kurtarmaya CHALISHIYORUM evlilighini: Seher Dilovan: Dostu Sildim: tercueme etme: told you girl: tamam: yanash bana: vuecut: body: ZAYFLA biraz iyi olur: Sandra Bullock: any of your movies are terrible: no kissing scences and no naked: see you: girl: ich dachte: Du kannst nur das Wort: Sauerkraut: das kriegen wir schon hin: ich liebe Dich auch: und: Helga liebt Dich: Hollywood: liebt Dich: there is nothing to lose: the model wanted to have have sex: she got it: if you break this relationshihp to your husband: you have next sex with so many other guys: all want to have sex with you: try with your husband: give him the chance to be by your side: was a mistake of him: and: you try with him: your last chance: talk to him: next month you and him: you want to try with him: was terrible: but: is your last chance: after him you break up the relationship to your husband: you will have sex with so many guys: is the same the model did it with your husband: if you have sex with other guys: you know: i leave you: take this informations to put out your single and album: cd extra: you have to care about it: come closer: Sandra Bullock: there are only one life: i do what i like to do: want to do: long: and: and: and: now you know: see you later: told you girl: there is nothing to lose: come a little bit closer: Lena Landrut: education: come on let us rock the party: USO: there are only one life: come on everybody let´s rock the party: guys: ich mache Euch die schnuckeligsten Produktionen: der Preis ist aber sehr hoch: ich bin weltweit der einzige Mann: ein Mann ebene: ich habe es als einzigster Mann es geschafft in einem Einkaufszentrum ein Paeckchen Condome zu kaufen: nach dem Kassiererin hustete: bin ich den darauf folgenden Tag noch einmal hin und habe wieder gekauft: hat Monate gedauert: man kann es sich nicht vorstellen: schlimmer wie der Tod: immer einen Bogen um die Kondome gemacht: aber ich habe es geschafft: einer Frau macht das nichts aus Kondome zu kaufen: wenn Ihr der Meinung seid: auch ich bin ein Mann: das haben sehr viele von sich behauptet: aber es nicht geschafft: seitdem steht die Karriere still: da bin ich gespannt: wer von ueber seinen Schatten springen kann: anschauen: Bipasha Basu Performance: IIFA Awards 2009: come on: come on: come on: everybody: let us rock the party: wenn Ihr nach Condomes Euch erkundugt: gibt Eure Koerpergroesse: Anzugroesse: Schuhgroesse: vielleicht findet Ihr auf anhieb das passende Condome: da bin ich gespannt: er hat es auch nicht geschafft: Tommy Reeve: Come Into My Live: do it right: but: do it better: Juergen Drews: true: girl: Sevdim: seni: de: chok sevdim: Sevdim: Huelya Avshar: yanash bana: Haketmedim: Hatice: Haketmedim Bunu: yanash bana: hich kimseye CHAKTIRMADAN yanash bana ve yap beni: Huelya Avshar: DEDIKODU: 2008: TARKAN: SIKI SARIL bana ve yap beni: istedighim gibi: you got it: shimdi chok yanash bana ve yap beni: beni yap: control of your life: you got only one life: told you girl long time ago: all tracks like: like: you know: the quality of: Umbrella: Tik Tak: Ayshe Dincher: possible too: take it: take: Umbrella: in combination of: electronic: rock: pop: Tik Tok: it´s O.K.: i do what i want to do: like to do: come a little bit closer: and: enjoy the prise: do not translate it: take you time to realise: girl: Huelya Avshar: true: Lena Landrut: you got it: Kim Dibkowski: immer auf den Sprachgebrauch achten: Dieter Bohlen: hasst Du Deinen Aufenthalt bei DSDS zu verdanken: attackiert die Jury: dann blockiert Euch jeder Manager Eure Zukunft: ich lasse Euch sowieso fallen: verstanden: Kim Dibkowski: alle durchlesen: sich anhoeren: Tearing Up My Heart: N´SYNC: Menovin Froehlich: und: auch alle: Bad: understand: you all: there are only one life: ich gehe doch nicht in Seiten: weil es mir Spass macht: das tue ich fuer Euch alle: tanzt Ihr aber aus der Reihe: muss ich mich abkoppeln: do we understand: letzte Woche habt Ihr bekommen: Lena Landrut: aber: steht: Lena Meyer-Landrut: das geht nicht: wenn das steht: Lena Landrut: dann heisst das auch: Lena Landrut: sich anhoeren: Sibel Can: Cakmak: english geschrieben: Chakmak: Sibel Can: eine ehemalige Bauchtaenzerin: legte auch eine unmoegliche Karriere hin: wenn mitgeteilt wird: Lena Landrut: dann: Lena Landrut: sonst geht das nicht: is my job: understand: Lena Lanrut: you understand: genauso baue ich die Karrieren von: Apollo 3: auch: stehen muss: Apollo Galaxy: aber: nein: steht: Apollo 3: das geht nicht: auch wenn ich mitteile: Ihr aendert Euren Namen: dann ist das auch der Fall: ich baue die Karrieren auf und mache diese auch wieder kaputt: ich wuedre auch sehr gerne spazieren gehen und laufen mich amysieren: aber nein: das alles bezahlt mir kein Mensch: das kostet mich enorm viel Zeit: tanzt Ihr ause der Reihe: koppelle ich mich ab: habe ich auch bei: Tokio Hotel: gemacht: wenn mitgeteilt wird: die Ringe aus dem Gesicht: dann heisst das: die Ringe aus dem Gesicht: steht: Lena Landrut: dann: Lena Landrut: understand: do not translate it: Lena Landrut: true: know what to do: there are only one life: Umut Akyuerek: your given name and surname are: Umut Akyuerek: yoksa kopmam gerekiyor: until to: Umut Akyuerek: told you girl: yanash bana: do not translate it: do it right: istedighim gibi SARILIR ve Oeperim: istedighimi YAPARIM: yanash bana: chok yanash ve yap beni: come a little bit closer: true: understand: girl you know it is true: Ines Redjeb: mit: Tezcan Tezgel: anfangen anzuhoeren: YANIYORUM: professional cooming out: do what you like but do it right: there are only one life: wishing you the best: Step By Step: I Am Every Woman: Whitney Houston: and: Straight Up: PA: Do You Wanna Really Love: die Zwischengesaenge nicht bei: Straight Up: mit dem Rhythm von: Girl You Know It Is True: Do You Love Me: Come On: Tell Me: Are You Ready For This Love: are you ready for this relationship: Ines Redjeb: Straight Up and now tell me are you ready: all tracks like: you need rock: like: girl you know it is true: as: bridge to the chorus: two or three of it: or: like: Black Cat: do what you like but do it right: there are only one life: Girl Seven: 7 : you really wanna: come on now: straight to the door: just relax because i am gonna proof it: there is nothing to loose: my sound is coming the speaker from Hamburg: Koeln: Berlin: Istanbul: to: New York City: to: Hollywood: do not be confused: step by step: you could be: i am every woman: et c´est parti: Yahoo Music France: or:www. my music video.de Nadiya: with the quality of the rhythm of: come: true: come on: UMBRELLA: Girl you know it is true: Girl you know it is true: Girl you know it is true: hoert sich immer gleich an: aber ist ganz und gar nicht der Fall: muesst immer von Anfang an durchlesen: ein Wort veraendert den komletten Sinngehalt des Kommentars: true: DSDS: ohne die Toene zu treffen habt Ihr keinerlei Chancen durchzukommen: wenn ich will: das geht nicht: wo A steht muss auch A wiedergegeben: um bestehen zu koennen: wenn man sich auf die Leistungskontrollen nicht vorbereitet: dann schafft man diese Leistungskontrollen nicht: understand: girl you know it is true: Lena Landrut: ist durchgekommen: mit dem B-Song waere auch in der Version: Jennifer Braun: als Finalistin durchgekommen: alle anderen auch: rhythm: ….. : die Zuschauer haben sich fuer den Song entschieden: bisschen die Hueften schwingen: hat also nicht mit: Lena Landrut: zu tun: der Song auf der Buehne war leblos: die Gesangstimme auf der Buehne war nicht einwandfrei und ist auch nicht ausgebildet: damit wird Sie In Oslo nichts bewirken: die Zuschauer haben die Wahl nac Oslo getroffen: war nur die Fahrkarte nach Oslo: fuer den B-Song haben sich die Zuschauer entschieden: wenn Sie sich: Ayse Dincer: anhoert: mit: Kocum Benim: mein Kavallier: anfangen: english geschrieben: Ayshe Dincher: dann den Song: Tik Tak: anhoeren: fuenf Mal: hintereinander konzentriert: der Gesang auf der Buehne kann man nicht empfehlen: hoerte sich an: als ob Sie einen Text abliest: kompakt den Gesang: wenn ich den Song bzw. die Songs singe: mitsinge: euch begleite waehrend Eurer Auftritte: dann hoert sich alles anders an: kompakt: nach den Instrumenten sich orientiert: wenn die Instrumente so gespielt werden: dann auch: dab dab dab daaab: die Instrumente geben Anhaltspunkte ueber den Verlauf des Gesangs: sich auf die Instrumente konzentrieren: wenn eingespielt ist mit dem Team: dann konzentriert man sich nicht auf das Team: als Einheit tritt man auf: keiner konzentriert sich mehr auf den anderen: sich auf die Instrumente konzentrieren: nach den Instrumenten wird die Gesangsstimme eingesetzt: um die Toene zu treffen: muesst Ihr Euch auf die Instrumente konzentrieren: aus diesem Grund werden die Instrumente als Begleitinstrumente eingesetzt: die mit der Gesangsstimme zu einer Einheit werden muessen: viele Stimmen wird: Lena Landrut: nicht bekommen in Oslo: nicht wie beim Wettbewerb: sich das einmal anhoeren: Miss Kiss Kiss Bang: harte Knochenarbeit: die Buehneausstattung war total daneben: nich besser geht die Qualitaet nicht: wenn: Lena Landrut: mit Ihrem Gesang und Ihrer Stimmenperformance vergleicht: wird Sie eine boese Ueberraschung erleben: TopTen in Oslo ist moeglich: sich auch: Top 1: Ruslana: Everyway That I Can: Fairytale: Alexander Rybak: anhoeren: damit Sie darueber informiert ist: wie die Zuschauer entschieden haben: was an Ihrem Sprechgesang fehlt: langweilig: Sie ist auch keine ausgebildete Saengerin: hat keine Lizenz: Ayshe Dincher: schon: ohne die Toene zu treffen wird man nicht weit kommen: aus diesem Grunde sich konzentrieren: das habe ich letzte Woche gespeichert: USA:…..: education: den Mund weit auf: eine Minute tief einatmen und auch ausatmen: Sie muesste Kopfschmerzen bekommen: ununterbrochen ein- und ausatmen: nicht in der Tonlage wie auf der Buehne: sondern: hoch: sehr hoch singen: hoeher und hoeher: dann in der Gesangsstimme wie auf der Buehne singen: aber betonend die Worte und lebendiges Schauspiel: Gülhan: ZIRDELI: noch einmal anhoeren: und: auch: Jennifer Brown: sich: Sam Brown: STOP: anhoeren: you better stop to break my heart: you do not try: Lena Landrut: die Zaehne muessen sauber sein: wie auch die Zunge: ansonsten seit Ihr ueber alles informiert: alle: wie die Produktionen auszusehen haben: die Produktion von: Lena Landrut: Studioversion: hoert sich gut an: TopTen-Qualitaet: hat die Produktion: understand: Lena Landrut: in: Hannover: ist eine Discothek: Baghwan: da war ich in den 80´ern: immer drei Mal die Woche: ich habe unter anderem auch in Hannover bis 1995 gelebt: war unterwegs immer hier und dort: tanzen: Straight Up: sich anschauen: auch: Jennifer Brown: und: auch: girl: Kerstin Freking: dann: Lena Landrut: zeigen: dass was drauf hat: Ihr ist bekannt: dass Sie als nobody ausgebildet wird fuer die Eurovison: Grand Prix: Kuenstler warten seit 40 Jahren: damit Sie einmal dort hin koennen: dann alles Gute: nach dem sich frisch gemacht hat: sich bei mir zum Knuddeln und Kuscheln melden: nach dem die Zaehne und die Zunge auch sauber sind: long: Jennifer Brown: Kerstin Freking: ….. : ich bin nicht wie die anderen Maenner: Ihr koennet denken: alle Maenner sind gleich: nicht im Geringsten: ein anderer Mann wuerde Euch anbieten: willst Du unten liegen oder soll sich: ich bin ganz anders: ich werde unten liegen: now you know: see you later: girl you know it is true: girls: see you: step into your own life and let me enjoy you: step: and: enjoy the prise: i know you want me: you really wanna: straight to the door: come on: ther are only one life: submitted to any of my girls too: come a little bit closer: one of my favorite girls to be in my arms that is no joke: after correcting your nose: Sinem Saniye: do it right: and: do it now: understand: there is not time to loose: no correcting your nose you know the consequences no movies and no professional coming out: available to: girl: Julie Mardin: too: as a kid i broke my nose: i have to need a correcting too: you: do it right: girl: s: you know: there are only one life: Sinema Saniye: and: Ertegun/s: i must to see you and have to know all about your life and what you all are doing at that time: understand: and: new favorite girl: professional coming out: see you later: Paulina Logan: until to: Paulina Logan: favorite: see you: there are only one life: see you later: do not be confused: please: told you girl: long: now you know: see you: you got and i got only one life: proud of you: see you later: Paulina Logan: submitted to the actors: the productions must be clean: rhythm to instruments: video: single and album: cd extra: design, colors: quality: Crazy In Love: Umbrella: Girl you know it is true: come a little bit closer: i do what i like to do: do it right: see you: there are ony one life: you know: told you girl: natural hair: and: make-up: now you know: clean: step into to your own life: with the long hair in your new video so amazing: natural hair: Waiting For Tonight: see you later: straight to the door: straight to: ther is nothing to loose: told you girl: you know: girl you know it is true: your new production is O.K.: true: it´s O.K.: has grammy quality: possible to get a grammy: has quality but could be more much better: long kiss: and: and: and: now you know: step and enjoy the prise: come into my life: TR: again: step come on there only one life: see you: true: girl you know it is true: Angeliki Cordalis: i do what i like to do: come closer: there is nothing to loose: submitted to any of my girls:…..: girl you know it is true ! + Hoert sich immer gleich an: aber ist ganz und gar nicht der Fall: muesst immer von Anfang an durchlesen: ein Wort veraendert den komletten Sinngehalt des Kommentars: true: DSDS: ohne die Toene zu treffen habt Ihr keinerlei Chancen durchzukommen: wenn ich will: das geht nicht: wo A steht muss auch A wiedergegeben: um bestehen zu koennen: wenn man sich auf die Leistungskontrollen nicht vorbereitet: dann schafft man diese Leistungskontrollen nicht: understand: girl you know it is true: Lena Landrut: ist durchgekommen: mit dem B-Song waere auch in der Version: Jennifer Braun: als Finalistin durchgekommen: alle anderen auch: rhythm: ….. : die Zuschauer haben sich fuer den Song entschieden: bisschen die Hueften schwingen: hat also nicht mit: Lena Landrut: zu tun: der Song auf der Buehne war leblos: die Gesangstimme auf der Buehne war nicht einwandfrei und ist auch nicht ausgebildet: damit wird Sie In Oslo nichts bewirken: die Zuschauer haben die Wahl nach Oslo getroffen: war nur die Fahrkarte nach Oslo: fuer den B-Song haben sich die Zuschauer entschieden: wenn Sie sich: Ayse Dincer: anhoert: mit: Kocum Benim: mein Kavallier: anfangen: english geschrieben: Ayshe Dincher: dann den Song: Tik Tak: anhoeren: fuenf Mal: hintereinander konzentriert: der Gesang auf der Buehne kann man nicht empfehlen: hoerte sich an: als ob Sie einen Text abliest: kompakt den Gesang: wenn ich den Song bzw. die Songs singe: mitsinge: euch begleite waehrend Eurer Auftritte: dann hoert sich alles anders an: kompakt: nach den Instrumenten sich orientiert: wenn die Instrumente so gespielt werden: dann auch: dab dab dab daaab: die Instrumente geben Anhaltspunkte ueber den Verlauf des Gesangs: sich auf die Instrumente konzentrieren: wenn eingespielt ist mit dem Team: dann konzentriert man sich nicht auf das Team: als Einheit tritt man auf: keiner konzentriert sich mehr auf den anderen: sich auf die Instrumente konzentrieren: nach den Instrumenten wird die Gesangsstimme eingesetzt: um die Toene zu treffen: muesst Ihr Euch auf die Instrumente konzentrieren: aus diesem Grund werden die Instrumente als Begleitinstrumente eingesetzt: die mit der Gesangsstimme zu einer Einheit werden muessen: viele Stimmen wird: Lena Landrut: nicht bekommen in Oslo: nicht wie beim Wettbewerb: sich das einmal anhoeren: Miss Kiss Kiss Bang: harte Knochenarbeit: die Buehneausstattung war total daneben: nich besser geht die Qualitaet nicht: wenn: Lena Landrut: mit Ihrem Gesang und Ihrer Stimmenperformance vergleicht: wird Sie eine boese Ueberraschung erleben: TopTen in Oslo ist moeglich: sich auch: Top 1: Ruslana: Everyway That I Can: Fairytale: Alexander Rybak: anhoeren: damit Sie darueber informiert ist: wie die Zuschauer entschieden haben: was an Ihrem Sprechgesang fehlt: langweilig: Sie ist auch keine ausgebildete Saengerin: hat keine Lizenz: Ayshe Dincher: schon: ohne die Toene zu treffen wird man nicht weit kommen: aus diesem Grunde sich konzentrieren: das habe ich letzte Woche gespeichert: USA:…..: education: den Kopf nach oben gerichtet in die Luft: den Koerper des Menschen sich als eine Instrument vorstellen: so funktionieren alle Blasinstrumente: den Mund weit auf: eine Minute tief einatmen und auch ausatmen: Sie muesste Kopfschmerzen bekommen: ununterbrochen ein- und ausatmen: nach 10 Sekunden wird eigentlich jedem schwindelig: Lena Landrut: nicht in der Tonlage wie auf der Buehne: sondern: hoch: sehr hoch singen: hoeher und hoeher: dann in der Gesangsstimme wie auf der Buehne singen: aber betonend die Worte und lebendiges Schauspiel: Gülhan: ZIRDELI: noch einmal anhoeren: und: auch: Jennifer Brown: sich: Sam Brown: STOP: anhoeren: you better stop to break my heart: you do not try: Lena Landrut: die Zaehne muessen sauber sein: wie auch die Zunge: ansonsten seit Ihr ueber alles informiert: alle: wie die Produktionen auszusehen haben: die Produktion von: Lena Landrut: Studioversion: hoert sich gut an: TopTen-Qualitaet: hat die Produktion: understand: Lena Landrut: in: Hannover: ist eine Discothek: Baghwan: da war ich in den 80´ern: immer drei Mal die Woche: ich habe unter anderem auch in Hannover bis 1995 gelebt: war unterwegs immer hier und dort: tanzen: Straight Up: sich anschauen: auch: Jennifer Brown: und: auch: girl: Kerstin Freking: dann: Lena Landrut: zeigen: dass was drauf hat: Ihr ist bekannt: dass Sie als nobody ausgebildet wird fuer die Eurovison: Grand Prix: Kuenstler warten seit 40 Jahren: damit Sie einmal dort hin koennen: dann alles Gute: nach dem sich frisch gemacht hat: sich bei mir zum Knuddeln und Kuscheln melden: nach dem die Zaehne und die Zunge auch sauber sind: long: Jennifer Brown: Kerstin Freking: ….. : ich bin nicht wie die anderen Maenner: Ihr koennet denken: alle Maenner sind gleich: nicht im Geringsten: ein anderer Mann wuerde Euch anbieten: willst Du unten liegen oder soll sich: ich bin ganz anders: ich werde unten liegen: now you know: see you later: girl you know it is true: girls: see you: step into your own life and let me enjoy you: step: and: enjoy the prise: i know you want me: you really wanna: straight to the door: come on: ther are only one life: submitted to any of my girls too: come a little bit closer: one of my favorite girls to be in my arms that is no joke: after correcting your nose: Sinem Saniye: do it right: and: do it now: understand: there is not time to loose: no correcting your nose you know the consequences no movies and no professional coming out: available to: girl: Julie Mardin: too: as a kid i broke my nose: i have to need a correcting too: you: do it right: girl: s: you know: there are only one life: Sinema Saniye: and: Ertegun/s: i must to see you and have to know all about your life and what you all are doing at that time: understand: and: new favorite girl: professional coming out: see you later: Paulina Logan: until to: Paulina Logan: favorite: see you: there are only one life: see you later: do not be confused: please: told you girl: long: now you know: see you: you got and i got only one life: proud of you: see you later: Paulina Logan: submitted to the actors: the productions must be clean: rhythm to instruments: video: single and album: cd extra: design, colors: quality: Crazy In Love: Umbrella: Girl you know it is true: come a little bit closer: i do what i like to do: do it right: see you: there are ony one life: you know: told you girl: natural hair: and: make-up: now you know: clean: step into to your own life: with the long hair in your new video so amazing: natural hair: Waiting For Tonight: see you later: straight to the door: straight to: ther is nothing to loose: told you girl: you know: girl you know it is true: your new production is O.K.: true: it´s O.K.: has grammy quality: possible to get a grammy: has quality but could be more much better: long kiss: and: and: and: now you know: step and enjoy the prise: come into my life: TR: again: step come on there only one life: see you: true: girl you know it is true: Angeliki Cordalis: i do what i like to do: come closer: there is nothing to loose: submitted to my girl worldwide to survive in a professional way you know I LIKE is not clean: Sade Clean: could be your name: Sade Adult: take my gift: an actress mus t have a given name and surname: I LIKE: try to kick: Sade Adult: my another girl: Keri Hilson: come closer: there are only one life: come a little bit closer: i do what i like to do: long kiss: and: and: and: I LIKE: there is nothing to loose: when you crossed my way: i promiss you: long: come and let me introduce: rock: in combination of pop: SADE: Soldier Of Love: PART OF ME: CC: and: Crank It UP: girl: all tracks like: with the rhythm quality of: UMBRELLA: because: it is a two grammy production: rhythm: video: design, colors: single and album: cd: extra: design, colors: quality like: if you want to survive: you have to fight for your right: one way to be in my arms: the productions must be clean: if you want to put out in a professional way: title of the album: the different album tracks: and: the different video track: or: tracks: three to seven singles: the singles and the album have the same video: cd extra: the singles have the title of the video tracks: you know: Lisa Lavie: Free Your Mind: track 1 to track 5: cd extra: you know enough: album six different tracks + the video track: the videos are for the dvd coming out: that is professional: you can take slow or not like: Soldier Of Love: your voices: slow like: Taylor Swift: on stage with: Led…..: rock: but in combination of: Soldier Of Love: like: and: you know: mix: and: remix: you can do what you like: hair natural: your hair not available try to change and try to look like a human: natural: make-up too: when you crossed my way: no refusing: forget it: i can refuse it: you can do it but: please: you do not try: there are only one life: Golden Eye: dresses: like: in: I ILKE: and: sometimes: If A SONG COULD GET ME YOU: in: blue: but you know: Elektra: now you know: step into your own life and let me enjoy you: BLACK CAT: moves: RHYTHM NATION: YOU´RE GONNA GET ROCKED: I LIKE: design, colors: quality of the video: like: UMBRELLA: Ain´t No OTHER MAN: LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING: is an eleven oscar awarded movie: video: the quality like: there are only one life: Keri Hilson: the productions must be clean: rhythm to video: design, colors: do not be confused: BURCIN: SEHERDE BIR BAGA GIRDIM: there is nothing to lose: come on: girl you know it is true !  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.154.112.211|87.154.112.211]] ([[User 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