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Last 12 Month Lupus Wiki-Talk-Page Traffic

As of July 4th 2023 :

Last twelve month daily average viewers : 3,825 page visitors

Last twelve month total views : approximately 1.4 M page views — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.74.5.194 (talk) 11:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Signed . 184.74.5.194 (talk) 12:18, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Identical twin susceptibility/

In the intro it says a 24% concordance for identical twins; in the 'genetics' section it says 35%. Which is it, please? 110.141.141.172 (talk) 10:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I recommend removing "Diagnostic criteria" There are no diagnostic criteria for systemic lupus There are only classification criteria, which are specifically for including patients into research studies. However, physicians often use the classification criteria to help guide their diagnoses of systemic lupus Resource for this suggestion: https://acrjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/acr.22583

Aggarwal R, Ringold S, Khanna D, Neogi T, Johnson SR, Miller A, Brunner HI, Ogawa R, Felson D, Ogdie A, Aletaha D, Feldman BM. Distinctions between diagnostic and classification criteria? Arthritis Care Res (Hoboken). 2015 Jul;67(7):891-7. doi: 10.1002/acr.22583. PMID: 25776731; PMCID: PMC4482786.

After the line "Neurologic disorder: Seizures or psychosis; sensitivity = 20%; specificity = 98%.[86]" I recommend that the two newer classification be added in a manner similar to how the ACR criteria is already presented.

The two newer criteria are:

2012 SLICC criteria (use table 3 from this link:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/art.34473)

and

2019 ACR/EULAR criteria (use figure 2 from this link: https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltee37abb6b278ab2c/blt78b4c1b38aa0039b/systemic-lupus-erythematosus-classification-criteria-complete-article-2019.pdf) Donthomasj (talk) 18:01, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Awhellnawr123214 (talk) 03:34, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Famous case

Assyrian king Esarhaddon is suspected to have suffered from Lupus by Finnish Assyriologist Simo Parpola.

Parpola, Simo: Letters from Assyrian Scholars to the Kings Esarhaddon and Assurbanipal, 2007, p.232. https://www.google.de/books/edition/Letters_from_Assyrian_Scholars_to_the_Ki/JimYncnzaOkC?hl=de&gbpv=1&dq=Parpola+%22esarhaddon+as+systemic+lupus%22&pg=PA232&printsec=frontcover 2001:1A81:5396:6500:4901:9698:929E:832E (talk) 23:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: JUS 437 Justice and Disability The Social Construction of Disability

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 August 2024 and 20 November 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Karminamontserrat (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Karminamontserrat (talk) 15:41, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-Change X to Y
-X:  Life expectancy is lower among people with SLE.[7]
-Y: With the rapidly expanding treatment options for symptoms, and knowledge of this disease, life expectancy for 80-90% of patients with SLE aligns with the normal life span.
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-•	Lupus.org
-o	URL: https://www.lupus.org/resources/prognosis-and-life-expectancy#:~:text=With%20close%20follow-up%20and,live%20a%20normal%20life%20span.
-o	Medically reviewed on July 18. 2013
-The reason why I chose to change the life span sentence is to clarify that treatment can cause the prevention of premature death. The sentence previously was a bit discouraging, especially if someone is reading this page and is recently diagnosed with Lupus. I changed this sentence to show that there is factual and scientific-based evidence that there is hope to live a full life thanks to modern treatments and disease knowledge. [[User:Vanderbiltstudent2022|Vanderbiltstudent2022]] ([[User talk:Vanderbiltstudent2022|talk]]) 03:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
-:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> I have added a modified version of your suggestion, keep in mind that article content is best kept brief and objective. More concerningly, I could not verify the statement on the 15-year survival rate in the given source, so that content has been removed. Notwithstanding the fact that your suggestion was implemented, your argumentation is not relevant. The potential emotional impact of a sentence is very rarely a relevant consideration on Wikipedia, as the goal is to report on the subject matter as neutrally and objectively as possible. This is especially the case with sensitive subjects such as medicine and potentially disturbing subjects such as wars. Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTCENSORED|never censored]], and in reporting the effects of a disease, some disheartening or potentially upsetting content is necessitated by our commitment to factual accuracy. [[User:Actualcpscm|Actualcpscm]] ([[User talk:Actualcpscm|talk]]) 21:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
-== The “Famous Cases” tab ==
-Considering there’s already an entire page of the list of people with lupus, it seems redundant to have another list on this page. [[User:ParentiParrot|ParentiParrot]] ([[User talk:ParentiParrot|talk]]) 01:36, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
-== Grammar ==
-Infobox photo caption is missing something, famous cases section has many typing errors/reckless pattern [[Special:Contributions/78.1.202.19|78.1.202.19]] ([[User talk:78.1.202.19|talk]]) 02:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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 ACR/EULAR criteria (use figure 2 from this link: https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltee37abb6b278ab2c/blt78b4c1b38aa0039b/systemic-lupus-erythematosus-classification-criteria-complete-article-2019.pdf) [[User:Donthomasj|Donthomasj]] ([[User talk:Donthomasj|talk]]) 18:01, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
+:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EP --> [[User:Awhellnawr123214|Awhellnawr123214]] ([[User talk:Awhellnawr123214|talk]]) 03:34, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
+== Famous case ==
+Assyrian king Esarhaddon is suspected to have suffered from Lupus by Finnish Assyriologist Simo Parpola.
+Parpola, Simo: Letters from Assyrian Scholars to the Kings Esarhaddon and Assurbanipal, 2007, p.232.
+https://www.google.de/books/edition/Letters_from_Assyrian_Scholars_to_the_Ki/JimYncnzaOkC?hl=de&gbpv=1&dq=Parpola+%22esarhaddon+as+systemic+lupus%22&pg=PA232&printsec=frontcover [[Special:Contributions/2001:1A81:5396:6500:4901:9698:929E:832E|2001:1A81:5396:6500:4901:9698:929E:832E]] ([[User talk:2001:1A81:5396:6500:4901:9698:929E:832E|talk]]) 23:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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