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Roy Kinnear
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Full name	Robert Muir Kinnear
Born	3 February 1904; Edinburgh, Scotland
Died	22 September 1942 (aged 38); Uxbridge, England
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Rugby union
Position	Centre
Club
Representative
Rugby league
Position	Centre
Club
Representative
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Robert Muir "Roy" Kinnear^[2] (3 February 1904 – 22 September 1942) was a Scottish dual-code international rugby union, and professional rugby league footballer who played in the 1920s and 1930s. He played representative level rugby union (RU) for British Lions, and Scotland, and representative level rugby league (RL) for Great Britain and Other Nationalities.^[1] His son was the character actor Roy Kinnear, and his grandson is the actor Rory Kinnear.

Biography

He played club level rugby union (RU) for Heriot's Rugby Club as a Centre. Kinnear won caps for Scotland in 1926 against France, Wales, and Ireland, won caps for British and Irish Lions while at Heriot's Rugby Club in 1924 against South Africa (4 matches). He was unique amongst Scottish rugby union defectors in that he originally played for a former pupils (FP) club, rather than one of the Border teams.^[3]

Kinnear played rugby league for Wigan as a centre. He played right-centre in Wigan's 5–4 victory over Widnes in the 1928 Lancashire Cup Final during the 1928–29 season at Wilderspool Stadium, Warrington on Saturday 24 November 1928.^[4]

Kinnear played left-centre and scored a try in Wigan's 13–2 victory over Dewsbury in the 1928–29 Northern Rugby Football League season's Challenge Cup Final at Wembley Stadium, London on Saturday 4 May 1929.^[5]

He won caps for Other Nationalities (RL) while at Wigan in 1929 against England, in 1930 against England (2 matches), and won a cap for Great Britain (RL) while at Wigan in 1929 against Australia.^[1]

He scored 81 tries in 182 games for Wigan.

He collapsed and died while playing rugby union with the RAF during World War II in 1942, aged 38.

The Scotland Rugby League Student Player of the Year Award is named after him.

Sources

Bath, Richard (ed.), The Scotland Rugby Miscellany (Vision Sports Publishing Ltd, 2007 ISBN 1-905326-24-6)
Massie, Allan, A Portrait of Scottish Rugby (Polygon, Edinburgh; ISBN 0-904919-84-6)

References

^ ^a ^b ^c "Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org". rugbyleagueproject.org. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
^ ^a ^b "Statistics at en.espn.co.uk". espn.co.uk. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
^ Bath, p87
^ "1928-1929 Lancashire Cup Final". wigan.rlfans.com. 31 December 2011. Archived from the original on 12 December 2013. Retrieved 1 January 2012.
^ "Historic Wigan RL Moments: 1929 Challenge Cup Final". wigan.rlfans.com. 31 December 2011. Archived from the original on 12 December 2013. Retrieved 1 January 2012.

External links

Statistics at wigan.rlfans.com

[Statistics_at_rugbyleagueproject.org-1] "Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org". rugbyleagueproject.org. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.

[Statistics_at_en.espn.co.uk-2] "Statistics at en.espn.co.uk". espn.co.uk. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.

[3] Bath, p87

[1928-1929_Lancashire_Cup_Final-4] "1928-1929 Lancashire Cup Final". wigan.rlfans.com. 31 December 2011. Archived from the original on 12 December 2013. Retrieved 1 January 2012.

[Historic_Wigan_RL_Moments:_1929_Challenge_Cup_Final-5] "Historic Wigan RL Moments: 1929 Challenge Cup Final". wigan.rlfans.com. 31 December 2011. Archived from the original on 12 December 2013. Retrieved 1 January 2012.

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-'''Robert Muir "Roy" Kinnear'''<ref name="Statistics at en.espn.co.uk"></ref> (3 February 1904 – 22 September 1942) was a Scottish [[List of dual-code rugby internationals|dual-code international]] [[rugby union]], and professional [[rugby league]] footballer who played in the 1920s and 1930s. He played representative level rugby union (RU) for [[British and Irish Lions|British Lions]], and {{nrut|Scotland}}, and representative level rugby league (RL) for [[Great Britain national rugby league team|Great Britain]] and [[Other Nationalities rugby league team|Other Nationalities]].<ref name="Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org"/>
+'''Robert Muir "Roy" Kinnear'''<ref name="Statistics at en.espn.co.uk" /> (3 February 1904 – 22 September 1942) was a Scottish [[List of dual-code rugby internationals|dual-code international]] [[rugby union]], and professional [[rugby league]] footballer who played in the 1920s and 1930s. He played representative level rugby union (RU) for [[British and Irish Lions|British Lions]], and {{nrut|Scotland}}, and representative level rugby league (RL) for [[Great Britain national rugby league team|Great Britain]] and [[Other Nationalities rugby league team|Other Nationalities]].<ref name="Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org"/>
-His son was the [[character actor]], [[Roy Kinnear]], and his grandson is the [[actor]] [[Rory Kinnear]].
+His son was the character actor [[Roy Kinnear]], and his grandson is the actor [[Rory Kinnear]].
 ==Biography==
-He played club level rugby union (RU) for [[Heriot's Rugby Club]] as a [[Rugby union positions#Centre|Centre]], i.e. number 12 or 13, Kinnear won [[Cap (sport)|cap]]s for [[Scotland national rugby union team|Scotland]] in 1926 against France, Wales, and Ireland, won [[Cap (sport)|cap]]s for [[British and Irish Lions]] while at [[Heriot's Rugby Club]] in 1924 against South Africa (4 matches). He was unique amongst Scottish rugby union defectors in that he originally played for a former pupils (FP) club, rather than one of the Border teams.<ref>Bath, p87</ref>
+He played club level rugby union (RU) for [[Heriot's Rugby Club]] as a [[Rugby union positions#Centre|Centre]]. Kinnear won [[Cap (sport)|cap]]s for [[Scotland national rugby union team|Scotland]] in 1926 against France, Wales, and Ireland, won caps for [[British and Irish Lions]] while at [[Heriot's Rugby Club]] in 1924 against South Africa (4 matches). He was unique amongst Scottish rugby union defectors in that he originally played for a former pupils (FP) club, rather than one of the Border teams.<ref>Bath, p87</ref>
-Kinnear played rugby league for [[Wigan Warriors|Wigan]] as a {{rlp|ce}}, i.e. number 3 or 4. He played right-{{rlp|ce}}, i.e. number 3, in [[Wigan Warriors|Wigan]]'s 5-4 victory over [[Widnes Vikings|Widnes]] in the [[1928 Lancashire Cup|1928]] [[RFL Lancashire Cup|Lancashire]] [[Rugby league county cups|County Cup]] Final during the [[1928–29 Northern Rugby Football League season|1928–29 season]] at [[Wilderspool Stadium]], [[Warrington]] on Saturday 24 November 1928.<ref name="1928-1929 Lancashire Cup Final">{{cite web|url=http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=420|title=1928-1929 Lancashire Cup Final|publisher=wigan.rlfans.com|date=31 December 2011|accessdate=1 January 2012}}</ref>
+Kinnear played rugby league for [[Wigan Warriors|Wigan]] as a {{rlp|ce}}. He played right-{{rlp|ce}} in Wigan's 5–4 victory over [[Widnes Vikings|Widnes]] in the [[1928 Lancashire Cup]] Final during the [[1928–29 Northern Rugby Football League season|1928–29 season]] at [[Wilderspool Stadium]], [[Warrington]] on Saturday 24 November 1928.<ref name="1928-1929 Lancashire Cup Final">{{cite web|url=http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=420|title=1928-1929 Lancashire Cup Final|publisher=wigan.rlfans.com|date=31 December 2011|accessdate=1 January 2012|archive-date=12 December 2013|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131212191653/http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=420|url-status=dead}}</ref>
-Kinnear played left-{{rlp|ce}}, i.e. number 4, and scored a [[Try (rugby)|try]] in [[Wigan Warriors|Wigan]]'s 13-2 victory over [[Dewsbury Rams|Dewsbury]] in the [[1928–29 Northern Rugby Football League season]]'s [[Challenge Cup]] Final at [[Wembley Stadium (1923)|Wembley Stadium]], [[London]] on Saturday 4 May 1929.<ref name="Historic Wigan RL Moments: 1929 Challenge Cup Final">{{cite web|url=http://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=944|title=Historic Wigan RL Moments: 1929 Challenge Cup Final|publisher=wigan.rlfans.com|date=31 December 2011|accessdate=1 January 2012}}</ref>
+Kinnear played left-{{rlp|ce}} and scored a [[Try (rugby)|try]] in Wigan's 13–2 victory over [[Dewsbury Rams|Dewsbury]] in the [[1928–29 Northern Rugby Football League season]]'s [[Challenge Cup]] Final at [[Wembley Stadium (1923)|Wembley Stadium]], [[London]] on Saturday 4 May 1929.<ref name="Historic Wigan RL Moments: 1929 Challenge Cup Final">{{cite web|url=http://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=944|title=Historic Wigan RL Moments: 1929 Challenge Cup Final|publisher=wigan.rlfans.com|date=31 December 2011|accessdate=1 January 2012|archive-date=12 December 2013|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131212191646/http://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=944|url-status=dead}}</ref>
-He won [[Cap (sport)|cap]]s for [[Other Nationalities rugby league team|Other Nationalities]] (RL) while at Wigan in 1929 against England, in 1930 against England (2 matches), and won a [[Cap (sport)|cap]] for [[Great Britain national rugby league team|Great Britain]] (RL) while at Wigan in 1929 against Australia.<ref name="Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org"/>
+He won caps for [[Other Nationalities rugby league team|Other Nationalities]] (RL) while at Wigan in 1929 against England, in 1930 against England (2 matches), and won a cap for [[Great Britain national rugby league team|Great Britain]] (RL) while at Wigan in 1929 against Australia.<ref name="Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org"/>
-He scored 81 tries in 182 games for [[Wigan]].
+He scored 81 tries in 182 games for Wigan.
-He collapsed and died while playing [[rugby union]] with the [[Royal Air Force|RAF]] during World War II in 1942 age 38.
+He collapsed and died while playing [[rugby union]] with the [[Royal Air Force|RAF]] during World War II in 1942, aged 38.
 The [[Scotland Rugby League]] Student Player of the Year Award is named after him.
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 ==Sources==
-* Bath, Richard (ed.) ''The Scotland Rugby Miscellany'' (Vision Sports Publishing Ltd, 2007 {{ISBN|1-905326-24-6}})
+* Bath, Richard (ed.), ''The Scotland Rugby Miscellany'' (Vision Sports Publishing Ltd, 2007 {{ISBN|1-905326-24-6}})
-* Massie, Allan ''A Portrait of Scottish Rugby'' (Polygon, Edinburgh; {{ISBN|0-904919-84-6}})
+* Massie, Allan, ''A Portrait of Scottish Rugby'' (Polygon, Edinburgh; {{ISBN|0-904919-84-6}})
 ==References==
-{{reflist}}
+{{Reflist}}
 ==External links==
-*![http://www.englandrl.co.uk/player_records?search=Kinnear&submit=Go&c=GB Great Britain Statistics at englandrl.co.uk (statistics currently missing due to not having appeared for '''both''' Great Britain, '''and''' England)]{{dead link|date=May 2020|bot=medic}}{{cbignore|bot=medic}}
 *[http://wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=627 Statistics at wigan.rlfans.com]
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v t e British Lions – 1924 South Africa tour
Forwards	Blakiston (Blackheath) Bradley (Dolphin) Brand (North of Ireland FC) Clinch (Dublin University) Cove-Smith (Old Merchant Taylors) (capt) D. Davies (Hawick and Scotland) Henderson (Newcastle Northern and Scotland) Hendrie (Heriots FP and Scotland) R.A. Howie (Kirkcaldy RFC and Scotland) Marsden-Jones (Cardiff and London Welsh) McPherson (Newport) McVicker (Collegians) Roche (UCC and Newport) Ross (Kilmarnock and Scotland) Voyce (Gloucester)
Backs	Bordass (Cambridge University) Cunningham (Lansdowne) H. Davies (Newport) Drysdale (Heriots FP and Scotland) W.F. Gaisford (St. Bart's Hospital) V. Griffiths (Newport) Holliday (Aspatria) Harris (Blackheath) Harding (Swansea) Kinnear (Heriots FP and Scotland) Maxwell (Birkenhead Park) Ian Smith (Oxford University and Scotland) Waddell (Glasgow Academicals and Scotland) Wallace (Percy Park) Whitley (Northern) Young (Blackheath)
Coach	Manager: Harry Packer

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