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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Gerino Gerini (racing driver) | 2 = Gerino Gerini | discuss = | reason = The other person with this name in the disambiguation article had middle name which has redirect, so makes sense for the article to be moved from the one of the racing driver. | sig = <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:MimirIsSmart|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">MimirIsSmart</span>]] [[User talk:MimirIsSmart|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">(talk)</span>]]</span> 00:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = MimirIsSmart}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Gerino Gerini (racing driver) | 2 = Gerino Gerini | discuss = | reason = The other person with this name in the disambiguation article had middle name which has redirect, so makes sense for the article to be moved from the one of the racing driver. | sig = <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:MimirIsSmart|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">MimirIsSmart</span>]] [[User talk:MimirIsSmart|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">(talk)</span>]]</span> 00:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = MimirIsSmart}} |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Teresa Núñez Laos | 2 = Teresa Núñez (volleyball) | discuss = | reason = COMMONNAME omits maternal surname, disambiguate as per NCSP | sig = [[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 15:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = Ortizesp}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Teresa Núñez Laos | 2 = Teresa Núñez (volleyball) | discuss = | reason = COMMONNAME omits maternal surname, disambiguate as per NCSP | sig = [[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 15:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = Ortizesp}} |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Dipturus natis | 2 = Blue skate | discuss = | reason = Cocked this up, I moved this page to Dipturus flossada as common skate is the name of the species complex including this species, the blue skate, and flapper skate. EcoF still lists it as D. batis, Blue skate is unamibiguous so should be the name for the article. There is a proposal at or going to the ICZN to have this changed to Dipturus flossada, blue skate would be stable. | sig = [[User:Quetzal1964|Quetzal1964]] ([[User talk:Quetzal1964|talk]]) 10:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = Quetzal1964}} |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Amaan Ali Khan | 2 = Amaan Ali Bangash | discuss = | reason = name inconsistent, see credit used | sig = [[User:Hekerui|Hekerui]] ([[User talk:Hekerui|talk]]) 17:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | requester = Hekerui}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Amaan Ali Khan | 2 = Amaan Ali Bangash | discuss = | reason = name inconsistent, see credit used | sig = [[User:Hekerui|Hekerui]] ([[User talk:Hekerui|talk]]) 17:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | requester = Hekerui}} |
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::More info may be needed here. This musician and his brother both have articles: [[Amaan Ali Khan]] (this one) and [[Ayaan Ali Khan]], but the text in the two articles use "Khan" and "Bangash" in haphazard ways so it's tough to decipher birth names, stage names, matronyms, patronyms, or whichever is more relevant. Also, if this request is granted we may have to do the same for his brother too. ---<span style="font-family: Calibri">[[User:doomsdayer520|<b style="color:#9932CC"><small>DOOMSDAYER</small>520</b>]]<small> ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|TALK]]|[[Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|CONTRIBS]]) </small></span> 12:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
::More info may be needed here. This musician and his brother both have articles: [[Amaan Ali Khan]] (this one) and [[Ayaan Ali Khan]], but the text in the two articles use "Khan" and "Bangash" in haphazard ways so it's tough to decipher birth names, stage names, matronyms, patronyms, or whichever is more relevant. Also, if this request is granted we may have to do the same for his brother too. ---<span style="font-family: Calibri">[[User:doomsdayer520|<b style="color:#9932CC"><small>DOOMSDAYER</small>520</b>]]<small> ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|TALK]]|[[Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|CONTRIBS]]) </small></span> 12:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = RSM-56 Bulava | 2 = R-30 Bulava | discuss = | reason = 'RSM-56' is an international treaty name.'R-30' is a name conforming with Soviet/Russian names for other SLBMs at Wikipedia | sig = [[User:Vlad97531|Vlad97531]] ([[User talk:Vlad97531|talk]]) 23:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | requester = Vlad97531}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = RSM-56 Bulava | 2 = R-30 Bulava | discuss = | reason = 'RSM-56' is an international treaty name.'R-30' is a name conforming with Soviet/Russian names for other SLBMs at Wikipedia | sig = [[User:Vlad97531|Vlad97531]] ([[User talk:Vlad97531|talk]]) 23:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | requester = Vlad97531}} |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Economic policy of the Narendra Modi administration | 2 = Economic policy of the Narendra Modi government | discuss = | reason = [[WP:CONSISTENT]], with [[Foreign policy of the Narendra Modi government]], the term "administration" is used in presidential system, in parliamentary system "government" is used. | sig = — [[User:Hemant Dabral|'''H'''e'''m'''a'''n'''t '''D'''a'''b'''r'''a'''l]] ([[User talk:Hemant Dabral|📞]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hemant Dabral|✒]]) 07:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = Hemant Dabral}} |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Modern Dog | 2 = Moderndog | discuss = | reason = As it was discussed a long time ago on the article's talk page, the band's now dead official website used "Moderndog" instead of "Modern Dog" without the space. This goes for the band's page on streaming services as well such as Apple music and Spotify which has them as "Moderndog", along with their album covers omitting the space. Despite this, most sources about the band either use "Modern Dog" or "Moderndog", especially English sources. | sig = [[User:Spinmeisters|Spinmeisters]] ([[User talk:Spinmeisters|talk]]) 08:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = Spinmeisters}} |
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==== Requests to revert undiscussed moves ==== |
==== Requests to revert undiscussed moves ==== |
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:Since the [[Special:Diff/1241664050|undiscussed move]] didn't include the technical request's rationale, note that [[Special:Permalink/1241664314#16R|it was]] "Title correction as per Indian English Grammar Style" (in line with the [[WP:JR/SR]] naming convention). [[User:SilverLocust|SilverLocust]] [[User talk:SilverLocust|💬]] 18:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
:Since the [[Special:Diff/1241664050|undiscussed move]] didn't include the technical request's rationale, note that [[Special:Permalink/1241664314#16R|it was]] "Title correction as per Indian English Grammar Style" (in line with the [[WP:JR/SR]] naming convention). [[User:SilverLocust|SilverLocust]] [[User talk:SilverLocust|💬]] 18:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::I don't think there's any problem with the earlier move. I am in support of declining this request. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 18:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
::I don't think there's any problem with the earlier move. I am in support of declining this request. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 18:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::It is still an undiscussed move as names are as per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Controversial moves need discussion, as simple as that. Additionally, the requested user is known for abusing move privilege, all their recent moves have been undone.--[[Special:Contributions/117.230.34.239|117.230.34.239]] ([[User talk:117.230.34.239|talk]]) 06:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Agree. As a controversial undiscussed move, this needs to be reverted. Note this article has been moved and reverted before. Discussion of the merits should then take place on the article's talk page. [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 07:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC) |
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==== Contested technical requests ==== |
==== Contested technical requests ==== |
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*::::::It is. And because it is already located at a naturally disambiguated title, no further disambiguation of titles is necessary. [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 05:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
*::::::It is. And because it is already located at a naturally disambiguated title, no further disambiguation of titles is necessary. [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 05:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::::::The point of [[WP:NOPRIMARY]] is that in such cases the plain title should be a disambiguation page. --[[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] ([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]]) 16:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
*:::::::The point of [[WP:NOPRIMARY]] is that in such cases the plain title should be a disambiguation page. --[[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] ([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]]) 16:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*::::::::It applies to cases where two articles would have identical titles, such as the [[John Quested]] example. Where two articles properly have different titles, there's no benefit to any reader to sticking a dab page in their way. [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 07:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC) |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Norkam Secondary School | 2 = NorKam Secondary School | discuss = | reason = correct spelling of school name has a capitalized letter K | sig = [[User:Ghafeli|Ghafeli]] ([[User talk:Ghafeli|talk]]) 00:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | requester = Ghafeli}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Norkam Secondary School | 2 = NorKam Secondary School | discuss = | reason = correct spelling of school name has a capitalized letter K | sig = [[User:Ghafeli|Ghafeli]] ([[User talk:Ghafeli|talk]]) 00:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | requester = Ghafeli}} |
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:: @[[User:Ghafeli|Ghafeli]] Usage of the term appears to be inconsistent in other sources, often used without the stylized K. We generally use [[WP:LOWERCASE|sentence case]] for article titles, but we can create a redirect from the other one. [[User:Raladic|Raladic]] ([[User talk:Raladic|talk]]) 00:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC) |
:: @[[User:Ghafeli|Ghafeli]] Usage of the term appears to be inconsistent in other sources, often used without the stylized K. We generally use [[WP:LOWERCASE|sentence case]] for article titles, but we can create a redirect from the other one. [[User:Raladic|Raladic]] ([[User talk:Raladic|talk]]) 00:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC) |
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<noinclude>{{Hatnote|Edit this section only if your request requires an administrator. Usually, do so if the page has been [[WP:FULL|fully protected]] or [[WP:MOVP|move protected]] (see [[Help:When to place technical requests in "Administrator needed"|this guide]] to which moves need administrators). Place your request in another section if it only requires a [[WP:Page mover|page mover]].}}</noinclude> |
<noinclude>{{Hatnote|Edit this section only if your request requires an administrator. Usually, do so if the page has been [[WP:FULL|fully protected]] or [[WP:MOVP|move protected]] (see [[Help:When to place technical requests in "Administrator needed"|this guide]] to which moves need administrators). Place your request in another section if it only requires a [[WP:Page mover|page mover]].}}</noinclude> |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Witch-hunt | 2 = Witch hunt | discuss = | reason = Per consensus at [[Special:Permalink/1253880365#Requested move 25 October 2024]]. | sig = [[User talk:Reading Beans|<span style="color:#333">'''Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia'''</span>]] 21:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | requester = Reading Beans}} |
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Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Gerino Gerini (racing driver) (currently a redirect to Gerino Gerini) → Gerino Gerini (move · discuss) – The other person with this name in the disambiguation article had middle name which has redirect, so makes sense for the article to be moved from the one of the racing driver. MimirIsSmart (talk) 00:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Teresa Núñez Laos → Teresa Núñez (volleyball) (currently a redirect back to Teresa Núñez Laos) (move · discuss) – COMMONNAME omits maternal surname, disambiguate as per NCSP Ortizesp (talk) 15:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Amaan Ali Khan → Amaan Ali Bangash (currently a redirect back to Amaan Ali Khan) (move · discuss) – name inconsistent, see credit used Hekerui (talk) 17:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- More info may be needed here. This musician and his brother both have articles: Amaan Ali Khan (this one) and Ayaan Ali Khan, but the text in the two articles use "Khan" and "Bangash" in haphazard ways so it's tough to decipher birth names, stage names, matronyms, patronyms, or whichever is more relevant. Also, if this request is granted we may have to do the same for his brother too. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bandar Gavater → Gwatar (currently a redirect back to Bandar Gavater) (move · discuss) – The article was originally at Gwatar, which is the most common English spelling, distinguishing it from the nearby and similarly-named city of Gwadar. Gwatar is also the name of the bay on which it stands - see Gwatar Bay. The current name appears to be an attempt to transliterate one of the Persian names of the town to English. Gedrose (talk) 10:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- RSM-56 Bulava → R-30 Bulava (currently a redirect back to RSM-56 Bulava) (move · discuss) – 'RSM-56' is an international treaty name.'R-30' is a name conforming with Soviet/Russian names for other SLBMs at Wikipedia Vlad97531 (talk) 23:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Economic policy of the Narendra Modi administration (currently a redirect to Economic policy of the Narendra Modi government) → Economic policy of the Narendra Modi government (move · discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT, with Foreign policy of the Narendra Modi government, the term "administration" is used in presidential system, in parliamentary system "government" is used. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 07:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Modern Dog → Moderndog (currently a redirect back to Modern Dog) (move · discuss) – As it was discussed a long time ago on the article's talk page, the band's now dead official website used "Moderndog" instead of "Modern Dog" without the space. This goes for the band's page on streaming services as well such as Apple music and Spotify which has them as "Moderndog", along with their album covers omitting the space. Despite this, most sources about the band either use "Modern Dog" or "Moderndog", especially English sources. Spinmeisters (talk) 08:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- N. T. Rama Rao Jr (currently a redirect to N. T. Rama Rao Jr.) → N. T. Rama Rao Jr. (move · discuss) – Undiscussed move of BLP article. 117.230.90.109 (talk) 17:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since the undiscussed move didn't include the technical request's rationale, note that it was "Title correction as per Indian English Grammar Style" (in line with the WP:JR/SR naming convention). SilverLocust 💬 18:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's any problem with the earlier move. I am in support of declining this request. Regards, Aafi (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- It is still an undiscussed move as names are as per WP:COMMONNAME. Controversial moves need discussion, as simple as that. Additionally, the requested user is known for abusing move privilege, all their recent moves have been undone.--117.230.34.239 (talk) 06:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Agree. As a controversial undiscussed move, this needs to be reverted. Note this article has been moved and reverted before. Discussion of the merits should then take place on the article's talk page. Station1 (talk) 07:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- Wreck of the Mexico → 1837 wreck of the Mexico (move · discuss) – This is not the only wreck of a ship named Mexico with an article on Wikipedia which has also been the subject of much coverage. Another wreck is covered at Southport and St Anne's lifeboats disaster -- and depends on whether you are British or American on which is prominent -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 08:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I processed the related move already, I'm caught on this one, 1837 Wreck of the Mexico is a good WP:NATDIS, however, it may also imply that the same ship was wrecked more than once. Wreck of the Mexico (1837) or something similar might be slightly better. ASUKITE 15:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- A move is not necessary. The year is mentioned in the first sentence and there is already a hatnote pointing to Southport and St Anne's lifeboats disaster. Station1 (talk) 16:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- A cursory Google search would suggest you are wrong there. The 1886 wreck is also frequently referred to as the "Wreck of the Mexico" -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 23:19, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't suggested otherwise. But without a title conflict, a hatnote is sufficient. It serves the same function as a dab page. Station1 (talk) 05:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is a WP:NOPRIMARY situation here. The 1886 wreck is simply located at a NATDIS alternate name title. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is. And because it is already located at a naturally disambiguated title, no further disambiguation of titles is necessary. Station1 (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- The point of WP:NOPRIMARY is that in such cases the plain title should be a disambiguation page. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- It applies to cases where two articles would have identical titles, such as the John Quested example. Where two articles properly have different titles, there's no benefit to any reader to sticking a dab page in their way. Station1 (talk) 07:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- The point of WP:NOPRIMARY is that in such cases the plain title should be a disambiguation page. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- It is. And because it is already located at a naturally disambiguated title, no further disambiguation of titles is necessary. Station1 (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is a WP:NOPRIMARY situation here. The 1886 wreck is simply located at a NATDIS alternate name title. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't suggested otherwise. But without a title conflict, a hatnote is sufficient. It serves the same function as a dab page. Station1 (talk) 05:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- A cursory Google search would suggest you are wrong there. The 1886 wreck is also frequently referred to as the "Wreck of the Mexico" -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 23:19, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- A move is not necessary. The year is mentioned in the first sentence and there is already a hatnote pointing to Southport and St Anne's lifeboats disaster. Station1 (talk) 16:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I processed the related move already, I'm caught on this one, 1837 Wreck of the Mexico is a good WP:NATDIS, however, it may also imply that the same ship was wrecked more than once. Wreck of the Mexico (1837) or something similar might be slightly better. ASUKITE 15:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Norkam Secondary School → NorKam Secondary School (move · discuss) – correct spelling of school name has a capitalized letter K Ghafeli (talk) 00:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ghafeli Usage of the term appears to be inconsistent in other sources, often used without the stylized K. We generally use sentence case for article titles, but we can create a redirect from the other one. Raladic (talk) 00:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Éric Marty → Eric Marty (essayist) (move · discuss) – in order to better disambiguate from Eric Marty the football player. 2605:8D80:13B5:DA45:C5EA:381:69B8:26DC (talk) 12:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is possible that both article titles could remain as-is, because the essayist has the diacritical mark in "É" and the footbal guy does not, while both articles already have the appropriate hatnotes at the top. Also, a reverse request to better disambiguate to footbal guy from the essayist would use the exact same logic. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thapelo Letsholo (politician) → Thapelo Letsholo (move · discuss) – Politician gets 3 page views a day, as oppose to cricketer's 1. Politician also appears first when searching “Thapelo Letsholo” into Google, Roasted (talk) 17:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Roastedbeanz1 Primary topic takeovers are rarely uncontroversial, especially when the pageviews for both are so low that it's difficult to draw any real conclusions from them. This would probably require opening a move discussion, which you can do by clicking the "discuss" link in your request above, with notifications to Talk:Thapelo Letsholo and Talk:Thapelo Letsholo (cricketer). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:18, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Roastedbeanz1 Primary topic takeovers are rarely uncontroversial, especially when the pageviews for both are so low that it's difficult to draw any real conclusions from them. This would probably require opening a move discussion, which you can do by clicking the "discuss" link in your request above, with notifications to Talk:Thapelo Letsholo and Talk:Thapelo Letsholo (cricketer). --Ahecht (TALK