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Please take a look....

...at this. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 03:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, they were reverted for using a nearly 300-year old source. Mellk (talk) 11:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Wars of Moldova

we could add the medieval wars of Moldavia, as is right considering that it is the Moldavian principality that fought against the Ottomans, in other people's wikis you have put the Ukrainians, Belarusians with their medieval wars. then first he corrected me, telling me that those are the "Moldova" wars and so why are there the Cossaki wars in the Ukrainian wars? please put mediaval wars for moldova 2.36.102.76 (talk) 19:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can raise this issue on the talk pages of those lists. Currently, there is no list for Moldavia, so you are welcome to make a start on this. Mellk (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just wish I didn't know how to do it, it all seems so complicated, if you could recommend me some videos to watch and understand how FrenMoldova (talk) 21:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend to take a look at the links on your talk page on getting started. If there is anything unclear, you can ask me about this. You can also practice in your sandbox. Mellk (talk) 07:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

city state

hello, i saw your modification i put NYC and DC in non Independent city state due to their particular status of consolidated city county and federal district also both of them proposed urban secession according to this source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_secession Boackandwhite (talk) 09:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I would suggest to find reliable sources that explicitly call them city-states. Otherwise this looks like original research, which is prohibited. Thanks. Mellk (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Ukrainian shah ==
+== Please take a look.... ==
+...at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gostomysl&diff=1251778847&oldid=1239883546 this]. Thank you, [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 03:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
-Hi. I've noticed you canceled my little edit in the article. As I know you can read Ukrainian. There's the etymology of the word "shah" in the article in the Ukrainian-language section. I was just trying to remove unconfirmed information that contradicts the known origin of the word. All the best, [[User:Myrczyk|Myrczyk]] ([[User talk:Myrczyk|talk]]) 23:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
-:Please see [[WP:CITE]] if you wish to change this. This needs to be cited to a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. We are not using sister projects as reliable sources. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 23:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
+:Thanks, they were reverted for using a nearly 300-year old source. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 11:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
-::So where are the sources for the claim that shah has anything to do with the shilling? [[User:Myrczyk|Myrczyk]] ([[User talk:Myrczyk|talk]]) 23:29, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::This has been in the article since 2005 and I have not seen any previous dispute over this. I have started a talk page discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ukrainian_shah#Etymology here]. I think it is worth asking the creator about this first. Please feel free to add your input there. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 23:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::Please patrol out the page. Thanks in advance. [[User:Myrczyk|Myrczyk]] ([[User talk:Myrczyk|talk]]) 08:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::::Looks fine to me, thanks. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 11:30, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
+== The Wars of Moldova ==
-== French places with German names  ==
+we could add the medieval wars of Moldavia, as is right considering that it is the Moldavian principality that fought against the Ottomans, in other people's wikis you have put the Ukrainians, Belarusians with their medieval wars. then first he corrected me, telling me that those are the "Moldova" wars and so why are there the Cossaki wars in the Ukrainian wars? please put mediaval wars for moldova [[Special:Contributions/2.36.102.76|2.36.102.76]] ([[User talk:2.36.102.76|talk]]) 19:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
-Not that I think it's a good faith argument but I was curious about the idea, so I checked [[Alsace]]. It has no less than two German names with three spellings. The city of [[Strasbourg]] has two as well. Strasbourg's is a more specific dialect, so I'm close to learning something. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 03:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
-:They would also be disappointed to learn that there are strong German influences there as well. [[Choucroute garnie]] is a popular dish. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 11:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
+:You can raise this issue on the talk pages of those lists. Currently, there is no list for Moldavia, so you are welcome to make a start on this. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 19:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
-::Interesting, I'll have to try it. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 11:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
+::I just wish I didn't know how to do it, it all seems so complicated, if you could recommend me some videos to watch and understand how [[User:FrenMoldova|FrenMoldova]] ([[User talk:FrenMoldova|talk]]) 21:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
+:::I would recommend to take a look at the links on your talk page on [[Help:Getting started|getting started]]. If there is anything unclear, you can ask me about this. You can also practice in your [[User:FrenMoldova/sandbox|sandbox]]. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 07:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
+== city state ==
-== Native names of cities: [[Dublin]] & [[Vitebsk]] comparisons ==
-Hi! How are you? Could you, please, explain your edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vitebsk&oldid=prev&diff=1228670565 here] towards Belarusian city, that has only one native name, which is in Belarusian, as it is in Belarus? At the same time there is no misunderstanding towards Dublin in the same conditions. Best wishes from Belarus,--[[User:W|W]] ([[User talk:W|talk]]) 12:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
+hello, i saw your modification i put NYC and DC in non Independent city state due to their particular status of consolidated city county and federal district also both of them proposed urban secession according to this source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_secession [[User:Boackandwhite|Boackandwhite]] ([[User talk:Boackandwhite|talk]]) 09:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
-:I do not understand your comparison with Dublin. Russian is an official language in Belarus and there is no [[WP:Consensus|consensus]] to remove such names. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 12:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
+:Hi, I would suggest to find reliable sources that explicitly call them city-states. Otherwise this looks like [[WP:OR|original research]], which is prohibited. Thanks. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 19:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
-== National symbols of Russia ==
-Do you read and write russian ? I do.
-That the reason why i will undo the cancelling of my verified and verifiable contributions regarding
- - the pix of the Constitution of the Russian Federation because:
-Конституция Российской Федерации = Constitution of the Russian Federation
- - National emblem - Coat of arms of Russia
-please notice the double headed eagle was literally espoused by Ivan III marrying Sophia Palealog in the XVth century.
-Thank you for understanding that facts and figures matter [[User:Cordi-Allemand|Cordi-Allemand]] ([[User talk:Cordi-Allemand|talk]]) 10:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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-== Boyars ==
-Hello, @[[User:Mellk|Mellk]], why did you deleted my changes in boyar article? This changes aren't relevant enough to require reliable source. Kievan Rus' and Muscovy are obviously different countries, so should be putted into two different categories. Бояри is the spelling used both in Ukrainian and Russian. [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 09:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:All your edits do not follow [[WP:V]] or [[WP:NPOV]]. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 10:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:Do you think "supreme Ukrainian rulers of Kievan Rus'" follows [[WP:NPOV]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grand_duchy&diff=prev&oldid=1246832858]? Not even fringe sources use this kind of wording. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 10:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::Since Supreme rulers of Kievan Rus' quite literally named themself as "Grand Princes of Kiev"(Modern Ukraine), and Central Ukrainian lands served as core of this state, we can simply name them Ukrainian. Similarly how principalities of Moscow, Tver, Ryazan or Novgorod are named russian. [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 10:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::And which sources support this view? [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 10:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::Support what exactly? If you mean the core of Rus', then here's a text in the Wikipedia article:"When the Varangian princes arrived, the name Rus' was associated with them and came to be associated with the territories they controlled. Initially the cities of Kiev, Chernigov, and Pereyaslavl and their surroundings came under Varangian control." Someone even tried to delete this quote, but editors replied:"The two sentences cited are supported by two reliable sources, and there is no reason to delete them. It is true that Kievan Rus' had more than just these three principalities, but it is also clear these three were the most important in its earliest phase.
-::::About the map: The relationship of Novgorod with early Kievan Rus' is debated (Holmgårdr having a prominent place in Old Norse sources, while some suggesting Veliky Novgorod was the capital of Rurik's realm, although Rurik's historicity is in dispute), but in Rus' chronicles it usually was not grammatically or geographically considered part of the so-called "Rus' land" (Роуськая земля), in which Kiev, Chernigov and Pereyaslavl were the central patrimonies, while Novgorod had to pay tribute to Kiev".
-::::If you mean the title of Grand Prince of Kiev, search for the article "rulers of Ukraine".
-::::Maybe you thought "supreme Ukrainian rulers" means that Ukrainians are superior to somebody, but it really just means that princes that ruled in Ukraine were also supreme leaders of Kievan Rus'. So it doesn't changes the neutrality, it might be oversimplification but again, Novgorod is sometimes referred as russian principality. So it's not a mistake, but I think I used this wording only ones somewhere, how does this relate to boyar article or other articles? In boyar article changes aren't relevant enough to need a source, Kievan Rus' and Muscovy are obviously different countries, and there's few corrections in etymology, so if you don't mind I'll return this changes. For other articles, I will add sources later, but again why would this be such an issue if large parts of them are unsourced anyway? [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 16:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::::The policy is [[WP:NOR]]. If you cannot find reliable sources that fully support such statements, then the statement should be removed. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 16:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::::So remind me again, how does this relates to boyar article or other articles? [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 16:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::::::You wrote some paragraphs explaining why 'supreme Ukrainian rulers of Kievan Rus' is fine based on original research and does not need a citation to a reliable source that fully supports this statement. I have already told you that your edits do not follow [[WP:V]], [[WP:NPOV]] and now [[WP:NOR]]. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with these policies first before you continue to restore these edits. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 17:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::::::"Supreme Ukrainian rulers" isn't featured in most of my edits anyways, it's just that you asked, I explained. Are you sure it is original research, [[list of Ukrainian rulers]]? To other articles, of course, I will add a source and only then revert the change.
-::::::::In Boyar article, I don't see where there's a need for additional source, and how "supreme rulers" relates to this? [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 17:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::::::::There is no such term as boyar rada. Please start a talk page discussion instead. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 17:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::::::::Before this change, it was called "Duma" which is an organ in Russia, not in Kievan Rus'. Rada is just a general slavic term for council. You can just leave it as Boyars Council. [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 18:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::::::::::'Boyar duma' is a modern term, but it is used in scholarship to refer to these councils. There is no such term as 'boyar rada' in English-language scholarship. Again, please start a discussion on that article's talk page instead. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 18:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::::::::::Source? If it is used, then you can just delete a link for russian duma. [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 18:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::::::::::::"As a traditional institution, the Duma (meaning 'deliberation') had precedents in certain deliberative and advisory councils of pre-Soviet Russia, notably in the boyar dumas (existing from the 10th to the 17th century) and the city dumas (1785–1917)".[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Duma-Russian-assembly] From now on, I will only respond on the article's talk page. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk#top|talk]]) 18:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
-::::::::::::::Nevermind I found a source. In that case you can just leave it unchanged, do you have any other questions about my changes? [[User:Shahray|Shahray]] ([[User talk:Shahray|talk]]) 10:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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