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Paul Blakely was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 09 October 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Captain Beefheart. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Trout Mask Replica as their masterpiece

Although the conventional wisdom seems to be that Trout Mask is the group's magnum opus, there are quite a number of relevant/important/influential music writers whose firm opinion is that any number of Beefheart albums are at least the equal of Trout Mask. Robert Christgau, Trouser Press and Lester Bangs to name a few off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure that the claim that the consensus is that it's the group's magnum opus, their masterpiece, not equaled or surpassed by any other albums, is more than open to question. Xelkman (talk) 02:03, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

naming convention...

it seems odd that throughout this article the author couldnt decide if they wanted to refer to the subject as "vliet" or "van vliet" and just used either at any occasion with no rhyme or reason. isnt there already some kind of standard for this, like only using the surname given at birth, or only using the surname carried through the majority of life or career. i dont think using either surname all willy nilly however you please is any type of standard. am i mistaken here or is this a common practice im just unaware of?? Snarevox (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The lead section says "He began performing with his Captain Beefheart persona in 1964...". So that ought to provide a pretty clear guide as when to use which name? I guess he was involved in such things as legal proceedings is birth name might have to be re-used? 15:55, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

There are several issues here. Firstly, he apparently changed his legal name from "Vliet" to "Van Vliet" around 1965. Secondly, he was known during his performing career (1964-c.1985) as "Captain Beefheart" (though at the time his "real" name of "Van Vliet" was well known). Finally, in his personal life and as a painter he was always known, I think, as "Van Vliet". My view is that he should be referred to as "Vliet" in his early life; "Captain Beefheart" (or "Beefheart") in relation to his music career; and "Van Vliet" elsewhere. There is some guidance at MOS:BIO, but it's not very helpful. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those are very valid points. No objections. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:44, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :The lead section says "{{tq|He began performing with his Captain Beefheart persona in 1964...}}". So that ought to provide a pretty clear guide as when to use which name? I guess he was involved in such things as legal proceedings is birth name might have to be re-used? 15:55, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 ::There are several issues here.  Firstly, he apparently changed his legal name from "Vliet" to "Van Vliet" around 1965.  Secondly, he was known during his performing career (1964-c.1985) as "Captain Beefheart" (though at the time his "real" name of "Van Vliet" was well known).  Finally, in his personal life and as a painter he was always known, I think, as "Van Vliet".   My view is that he should be referred to as "Vliet" in his early life; "Captain Beefheart" (or "Beefheart") in relation to his music career; and "Van Vliet" elsewhere.  There is some guidance at [[MOS:BIO]], but it's not very helpful.  [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 18:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
+:::Those are very valid points. No objections. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 18:44, 21 March 2022 (UTC)