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Erotica (Madonna album) is currently an Albums good article nominee. Nominated by 11Jorn ^Talk at 01:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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Unreleased Songs

Goodbye to Innocence
You Thrill Me
Throb (There's controversy if it is really a Madonna recording from the time, since Janet Jackson recorded during the period her own song Throb. So it is questionable if it is really a Madonna song or a case of mistaken identities)
By Alien Means
Freak
No Entry
Love Hurts
Shame
You Are the One

Can anyone verify any of the above? I just cut it from the article as being completely without sources. Jkelly 03:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This time around I dewikified a number of redlinked songs and removed a "Greatest Hits" section. See WP:ALBUM for details on what an album article should be, and when to link to songs. Jkelly 05:45, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

don't know how to edit this but "YOU THRILL ME" is not an unreleased madonna song. it is actually just a demo of erotica. erotica had various demo versions and a few contained the vocal lines "you thrill me" which leaked onto the internet and fans called "you thrill me". it was never a full song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeyaj (talk • contribs) 13:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Dubious description

Erotica is a concept album about sexuality and relationships. Each track explores a different facet of sexuality, usually involving sexual relationships. Lyrically, the album does not tie sex and sexual relationships with the traditional ideals of romance. A dance record by all accounts, the album showcases hip hop and jazz-affected club production from co-producers Shep Pettibone and André Betts.

How does every track explore a facet of sexuality? What do "Bye Bye Baby", "Bad Girl", "Waiting", "Thief of Hearts", "Words", "Rain", "Why's It So Hard", "In This Life" or "Secret Garden" have to do with exploring sexuality? Of course, some of them make allusions to sex and sexuality, but sexuality is not the main focus.

I also fail to see how "Where Life Begins", "Bad Girl", "Waiting", "Rain", "In This Life" and "Secret Garden" can be called dance songs, so I'm not entirely sure the definition of the album as a "dance record by all accounts" is accurate. The whole first paragraph of the "Album information" section seems riddled with personal opinions. 201.22.37.46 (talk) 03:00, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sales

In the intro is written that the album had sold over 10 million units globally but in the latter part of the article I see 5 million units. Both are without sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phonography (talk • contribs) 01:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Tbhotch^{Talk2 Me} 03:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

Should be added a legacy section, this album is very important to pop music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.0.136.66 (talk) 15:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Erotica (Madonna album) → Erotica (album) – This album is more popular and more familiar to people than some band's album. If possible, extra disambiguation is no longer necessary, unless there will be another challenging album with the same name. George Ho (talk) 07:52, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - sorry George but what's the benefit? We try to avoid brackets, but once they are there I cannot see where Wikipedia:Disambiguation says to establish a primary in the bracket. Someone looking for Erotica by Roberto Perera (1990) Erotica by Darling Buds (1992) both of which have en.wp text mentions isn't benefiting from making the disambiguator ambiguous when it shows up in the RH search box. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Well... how do we know that they are challenging topics? How do we know that 4-6 people are looking for non-Madonna album? --George Ho (talk) 16:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But even the 90% who are looking for the Madonna album benefit from current non-ambiguous title, without the (Madonna ...) there's nothing to tell the 90%, great that's it, that's what I'm looking for, click. What is the benefit to anyone of removing it? Chances are they're going to search "Erotica + Madonna" anyway, at least as likely as typing "Erotica + Album" so again whom does removing it benefit and how? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't going to use Google, but "erotica album" and "erotica Madonna" result almost the same on first pages (well, with Wikipedia included). From Yahoo (Wikipedia excluded): "Madonna" term results the same as "album" term. --George Ho (talk) 17:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and, especially, WP:TWODABS. Why send Erotica (album) to the Erotica dab page? Much better to have the Madonna album there, with a hatlink to the lesser known album. Some are helped; no one is hindered, which is the point of TWODABS in situations like this. It's all good. --B2C 22:56, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose WP:NCM, articles should not have ambigous disambiguation. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, this is not the priamry topic of "Erotica", so should be properly disambiguated. "(album)" is not part of any PT consideration, since it only concerns the undisambiguated title. WP:TWODABS doesn't apply, there isn't one, Erotica (disambiguation) has many more than 2 articles. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 02:22, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As noted above, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC does not apply to titles that already have disambiguators because almost no one will actually type "Erotica (album)" as a search term. Getting readers navigated to the article they are most likely seeking from an unqualified title (i.e., Erotica (disambiguation)) is the purpose of primary topic. See Talk:Loud (Rihanna album) and Talk:Rumors (Lindsay Lohan song) for recent similar cases. — AjaxSmack 03:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Suuport The opposers are wrong. Per WP:ALBUM's own MOS: "If there is a primary album, such as Thriller (album), then that would get the primary (album) disambiguation, and only the secondary albums, Thriller (Eddie and the Hot Rods album) or Thriller (Lambchop album) need be disambiguated by band". There is not evidence Erotica (The Darling Buds album) is important or notable enough to have an album ambiguity. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:08, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support WP:ALBUM's, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, WP:TWODABS and especially, WP:COMMONSENSE. Chrishonduras (talk) 00:38, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Ajax nailed it. -- Ohconfucius ^{ping / poke} 02:59, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:ALBUM and the rest, per Tbhotch. --BDD (talk) 17:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Per Tbhotch. --LlamaAl (talk) 22:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The Darling Buds album is quite possibly of more lasting cultural significance than Madonna's, a point easily overlooked. Safest by far to leave as is, and harmless. Note that there are at least three reasonably well known albums by this name, and probably many more less well known. Andrewa (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Support''' per [[WP:ALBUM]] and the rest, per Tbhotch. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD|talk]]) 17:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 *'''Support''' - Per Tbhotch. --[[User:LlamaAl|LlamaAl]] ([[User talk:LlamaAl|talk]]) 22:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose'''. The Darling Buds album is quite possibly of more lasting cultural significance than Madonna's, a point easily overlooked. Safest by far to leave as is, and harmless. Note that there are at least three reasonably well known albums by that name, and probably many more less well known. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 15:42, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose'''. The Darling Buds album is quite possibly of more lasting cultural significance than Madonna's, a point easily overlooked. Safest by far to leave as is, and harmless. Note that there are at least three reasonably well known albums by this name, and probably many more less well known. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 15:42, 15 March 2013 (UTC)